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Oren's Forge PG 338 (Patreon)

Published:
2025-04-07 21:00:05
Edited:
2025-04-08 08:27:32
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2026-06
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Dhaka Yeena

Swift I love you but please just sit back and listen to the marten

Microgrampup

Wait, Rask can still talk to Red.

Gale Tazzin

if you sniff harder you might notice the marten spying on you!

Dhaka Yeena

Oh I’d like to see those two have a chat

treefiddy

**pokes Rask** C'mon, say something

Marcwolf

My exact thoughts. Red is definitely the thinker of the two.

Julian Seguin

“Hunting here will be easy.” Said the wolf who watched prey making fire, which basically allowed humanity to rise to the top of the food chain 😅

Teagan Gavet

I'd argue that while prey interacting with fire is novel for Swift, it's not an incomprehensible or insurmountable barrier in her mind. She probably has a general idea of what fire can and can't do and feels it's within her realm of understanding. I dug up an old article about a study of chimps and wildfires, which maybe you'll like! It's neat, all chimps are well documented doing 'rain dances,' but these particular chimps seem to have a 'fire dance' as well! https://www.futurity.org/like-humans-wild-chimps-get-fire/ "In their paper, the researchers wrote that the control of fire by humans involves the acquisition of these three cognitive stages: conceptualization of fire, ability to control fire, and ability to start a fire." I don't think Swift knows fire can be used to create metal or fire clay in the same way that the chimps don't, but she (and chimps) definitely have the first stage down.

Julian Seguin

I appreciate the response. In regards to nature, all your animals have opposable thumbs, even the Bison, (which creeps me out somewhat). This is a major evolutionary shift, as it allows them to craft tools, and better guard themselves in combat. It's a great addition, that doesn't overly anthropomorphize your characters. While this is a very detailed and logical summation of Swift's mindset, it still seems far from easy. Easier than having to roam miles, searching for prey, perhaps. But she saw what happened to Seral. I mean, she didn't see it happen in the moment, but his body is there with a wound that no wild animal would make with their own teeth. Speaking of Seral, does Swift have any reaction to his death? I know he betrayed her, but they were family. Or did she and her family just eat him? Because wolves can and will do that if they are sufficiently hungry.

A Mills

Is it just me or does rask look visibly better fed now? Not chonky just filled out, curious where all this will go, how the zenith and whatever it is affects the wolves opinions regarding their options or possibly currying things in favor of collaborating with the hollow…

Grey

Swift suffering an infection and the hollow helping would certainly be one way to win them over further.

treefiddy

I just realized something, Swift mentioned Scree by name in this conversation. Rask has been in the presence before when her name was mentioned-- all the way back on page 55 when Scree and Seral were trying to run him down. It was red text at the time, and Rask really probably wasn't in the headspace to really be trying to parse and remember the conversation at hand. So I don't know if he'd be able to pick up on that. But I wonder if he recognizes enough of the speech patterns to know who Swift is talking about Like, you don't necessarily need to know a language to be able to pick out words or names you've heard in a conversation before. Especially one as unique as Scree

treefiddy

Swift also never mentioned that he was a skinny marten, just that he was a marten. Scree specifically pointed out that he was skinny when talking to Singer

Saran Kit

Love the second panel! What a sweet couple. <3

Microgrampup

I’m wondering if Swift actually thinks that the prey are responsible for creating a trap for her, or if she just thinks that it was just there out of coincidence and it was the one chance Rask could have killed her. Thus her saying “you already had your chance to kill me, you won’t get another”.