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(Week Early) Game of Thrones 8x4 REACTION | "The Last of the Starks" | Watch it with us (Patreon)

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2023-08-02 22:36:59
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Halima

Watching this IMMEDIATELY

Jake

sophie keep sayin hes not a stark. technically hes as much stark as he is Targaryen. so yes hes a stark lol.

Sivan

I’m not sure if you realize this later in the episode, but the issue isn’t people not wanting to follow Jon because he’s a Targaryen. It’s the opposite. Dany is concerned that once people find out, they’ll want him on the throne instead of her, because not only does he has a better claim, but he’s more loved in Westeros than she is, by far.

Halima

Varys was speaking facts on facts on facts this episode. Tyrion is blinded because he’s in love with Danaerys and wants to see the best in her, Varys is more practical and acknowledges both her strengths and flaws.

Halima

Dany was scrambling this episode. She found out that Jon is the true heir to the Iron Throne and grew paranoid. She started rushing to take the throne before the news about Jon spreads and it came at a cost to her dragon. The armies needed time to rest and Rhaegal needed time to heal.

Halima

It may seem like Cersei’s been unfair during this whole war but she hasn’t been really. Cersei’s just strategised way better than Danaerys and co did. You might say Dany should just burn them, but why is Danaerys being queen so important that innocent men, women and children should have to die? That’s the question I wrestled with watching this episode.

Halima

“Maybe Thanos was right all along” y’all so unserious I’m screaming 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sivan

Your arguments in favor of Dany are based on a false dichotomy between her and Cersei. The actual issue is there’s someone else who’s neither of them- Jon.

Sivan

It’s not about Dany vs Cersei anymore. A third option has entered the field.

Sivan

Between the 3 of them, which one is most likely to put the safety of their people over their own desire for power or glory.

Virgogrl

I’m sure Missande doesn’t want Dany to burn innocent children and people who have nothing to do with the war between Cersei and Dany. The dracarys, in my opinion was for Dany to burn the shit outta Cersei and her army. And I totally agree. Dany NEVER wanted to be the Queen of ashes. Take her ass to Kings Landing and burn Cersei and have her die screaming. I’m down for that. I’m not down for Dany burning innocent people. If she does that then she’s another tyrant and no better than Cersei or her father The Mad King. She will become everything that she’s fought to defeat. She cannot be allowed to sit on the Iron Throne if she becomes a psycho.

Sivan

One last comment and then I promise I’ll get out of here 😂. I don’t have an issue with people supporting Dany. The Targaryens are my favorite house, but our arguments in favor of whoever we root for should be logically consistent, or blatantly flagrant, ie. “I don’t care if *insert name* kills every single person in the country, I want them on the iron throne.” At least that’s honest. Bear with me, Dany has conquered regions where slavery was alive and well, and she liberated those people, which we all applaud, but the fact is that Kings Landing doesn’t have slaves. The common people there aren’t in chains. It’s not a utopia, but they’re as free as any common folk can be in a world like GoT. So what exactly is the goal for conquering Westeros? And how many children are we (the audience) okay with burning alive so that Dany can sit on the throne?

Bryce Hatley

100% agree with Sophie. I'd have loved to see the actual dialogue between Jon, Arya, and Sansa regarding him being a Targaryen. As far as the whole Dany vs Cersei topic...I've never made a comment on that subject, but here is my take. 100% agree with Cersei being burnt to ash. No need for her to remain alive. But please don't get confused - it has always been Dany herself who has been saying she wants to break the wheel of tyranny. What kind of ruler would she be to not only turn Cersei into ash, but to turn all of the innocent men, women, and children/babies into ash? As has been said - she will be just "more of the same," and she will then not be able to break the wheel as she herself has wished, which she will just be another spoke in it. Varys...he is an amazing character. Don't forget that Dany is alive in large part to his efforts to be sure he kept her steps ahead in King Robert's attempts to assassinate her. As Tyrion eluded to he has only done what he needed to do in order to keep himself alive in those times of there being a ruler he was against - Joffrey included. He kept Dany alive, brought her the person who became her Hand, secured alliances in Westeros for her, and kept his promise he would speak to her directly if he ever felt she was making a mistake. Varys cares for those same innocent men, women, and children - and he does not want to see them all get massacred. I personally believe Jon would be a better ruler in this situation due to the fact he does not want to rule. This would eliminate him from doing whatever it takes so that he would be able to rule (which is what we currently see with Cersei). Varys can see it, and thus he obviously feels, too, Jon would be the better choice. Looking forward to seeing y'alls last two reactions. Thank you for the frequent uploads!

Marissa

I can never get myself to play this episode on reactions lol. The episode itself just makes me so angry 😆

IQLou

Was gonna write a longer paragraph but everyone mostly nailed it. Yes people die under tyranny everyday but the scale of evil that it takes to do what Dany wants to do to the civilians of King's Landing is worth thinking about. There are no masters of slaves in King's Landing and most people don't care who sits on the throne. Why should they burn with their families just because Dany thinks she has a better claim? How is that saving the city? People don't usually get better with their tactics after doing stuff like this, Varys saw this movie before and Tyrion should've listened. It's heartbreaking that Dany's downward spiral was kicked off by so much loss from helping up North. I think the fact that she originally had great intentions is what makes people lose patience alongside her in this post Long Night part..

Trae Young Supremacist

Everyone in the comments shitting on Danny is..... The most helpful person in this war was Daenerys. She started as a little girl being sold, and SA'd to freeing massive armies and birthing dragons, and stopping the army of the dead. Many people, in general, downplay Daenerys claim to the throne, and I don't understand why. John has his people behind him, but that's only because Daenerys saved them and lost a dragon for it, and a witch brought Jon back to life (not to say John hasn't done anything, but he has been greatly aided). She deserves a lot more credit, and her feelings of being overlooked, even though she's done so much, are valid. Also, what Daenerys said was right about waiting for war with Cersei. The longer she waits, the stronger Cersei gets, and playing catch-up might not work well. I wonder why people dismiss Daenerys so much when what she said usually has merit. Right after Daenerys told him that people would not accept her even if he kneeled to her, his sibling did exactly what Daenerys said they would do. His siblings literally said, " I will never know her she's not one of us".

John Milton

After game of thrones, why dont you try the show : the expanse, it is a incredible série within an other universe.

Black Valyria👸🏿🐲🔥🌋

Ur waisting ur breath/energy complaining about the speed of a show during seasons where 2 writers quit so they didn't write together. Until our god GRRM finishes... ths is the quitting twiddle D & twiddle Dumb (David Benioff & D.B. Weiss), ending that we hav. If u don't want spoilers I suggest u leave Cerseis name out the convo lol those ppl r demons! She told us Euron was going to be waitin y'all just 4got or was talkn. Plus shes as insignificant as ur 'alll the othr Targaryen rule' comment lol bc #YouKnowNothingJonSnow Yall kno nuthn ab what happend undr the retard incest Targaryen rulers xcept the Mad King & u don't kno half of that & u chose not to kno & listen to us soooo don't get mad now. #WeToldYouSo! And there were several refs of Targaryen terror b4 Aerys u missed. The terror the ppl hav isnt just bc of the hm its 150yr history. U negate Danys NEED for luv & ENTHUSIASM at discarding it at will. Only when its taken away or not given and its out of her control is it problematic for her. U negate Varys origin. Ths is called the effects of Trauma, they & othrs hav it. Its fine to like analyzing u just need all the info to do it adequately. Seems u hav the mindset of 'So what if Trump wins bad thngs always gonna happen' FFW to 2023 his SCOTUS has given u less rights than ur grandparents had. Mayb ur not negating & u just 4got everyone's origin that u haven't favorited. Everyone has favs, just stand on it while admitting ur intentional oversight of the facts. The Cersei ppl do that very well lol. The Dany ppl r mad...pun intended lol they either refuse to accept they can't change time or refuse to grasp the unavoidable reality of high risk developmental disability. No everyone doesn't go mad whn xposed to trauma... unless they're products of high level incest. U hav 2 options, both take like 2mos. 1 gives u a chance to save the world u want to rule the other may let u rule for a few weeks b4 the world ends. Or u can face the fact that the main focus of ruling (Aegons Dream), is NOT a physical throne but LEADERSHIP to beat the Long Night. Thats Dany & Jons sole destiny. 2b consumed w ruling over ppl for whatever justification u come up with is the very madness power brings

Sivan

I lied. I’m back with another comment. Something just occurred to me - why wasn’t a stealth assassination mission ever considered as a viable option to get rid of Cersei? They could’ve taken their time to plan it out and done it without risking the lives of thousands of people.

ramon carter

the season was rushed and did need 10 episodes hbo would have gave it to the directors but they said no they wanted it over to move on to there star wars movie that got cancelled anyway also after season 6 they ran out of book matterial

Paris Hardy

I agree with Sophie & Mair. Season 8 (& probably season 7) needed a full 10 episodes of plotting & writing to get us to these points. Everything is crammed together & thus minimizes the moments & confrontations. The sad thing is HBO offered the directors 10 FULL seasons & they turned it down to be done with series faster.

The Prelude 2 Fame

You do not nuke the same place you wish to reside or the people you wish to govern...doing so makes you the same as the "evil" you wish to unseat. Ain't nobody bigger than the program cuh

Chaz D

I’m with you guys. I love Dani and 100% on her side. I’m also with Tyrian though and don’t wanna see her burn children and innocent people alive. She’s been able to conquer everywhere she’s been without doing that and it doesn’t make sense for her character build to do that now.

Phillip of house Harris

You got to remember we are seeing dany from the shows perspective. Im their world it’s easy to create propaganda against you enemies. If she goes mad queen she just proves everyone right. And according to her she wanted to be different.

tmccurdy87

I guess the question I have is when you say that Dany should just "burn em all", are you referring to just all the soldiers and people in control? Or are you including all the innocent, regular people (including women and children) in King's Landing as well? Because that distinction makes all the difference. You want her to burn all the soldiers and people in power in order to take the throne? Fine. You want her burn thousands of women and children in order to take the throne? Absolutely not.

PatronPioneer

I didn't even watch the reaction... lol these comments tell me everything I need to know. These guys are so consumed in just wanting Dany to rule. How can you cosign this??? Danaerys was never a good ruler!! Period... only my real GOT, smart and tactical person will understand that. She is an excellent Conqueror just as her ancestors Aegon was. Every episode always ended with her taking over or conquering with her dragons...being shown on top and everyone ate it up!! Cheering for her every season. But if we backtrack or....paid attention smh... she struggled when she had to actually rule. From Mereen to Yunkai. She barely succeeded most of the time....and when she scratched the surface, it was because of Jorah's and Ser Barriston's counsel and advice. She is a product of her family. 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

Robert L

I can't wait to see their next reaction lmao.

Luke Gressel

Like it or hate it- Cersei knows how to rule.

Verdent Wood

Neither are fit to be Queen. Both willing to sacrifice the comman man. That’s me and you. For power. That’s government. You love Dany but you haven’t been paying attention to all the murder she has committed, she’s a conqueror and is no different to Cersi. When Dany killed its war when Cersi kills she’s evil. This is war. It’s funny how the audience pick one tyrant over another above the regular people. Varys was right he was fighting for those a people. The everyday joe. Both Queens let their emotions give them authority neither deserves.

React2Reactions

These last episodes are gonna be tough to get through, bc you guys are in denial again. It’s like Breaking Bad, you get stuck on a character and can only imagine them one way. What’s happening makes perfect sense, but you’re going to defend it no matter what, which is crazy. I don’t even think you guys understood that when she was looking at Jon after the battle, it wasn’t concern for them not accepting him, it was fear that she wouldn’t get to be queen. Bc you don’t want to see it. I’m hangin in, but I see where this is headed. At the end, I’ll say “I said that.”

Chuckie

Why should Cersei bend the knee to Dani though? Why wouldn’t she defend her throne? Cersei has lived in westeros her whole life and has a claim to the throne given she’s on the throne! Dani has not earned the throne she just feels entitled to it because of her crazy father. Now she wants to burn the city of innocent people? That’s the difference, Cersei isn’t a mad queen because she’s not burning her people alive, Dani is willing to burn the innocent just to “win”… you guys are obsessed with Dani because of how she rose to power, we’ll see how you feel when you see her actually burn the innocent. She is a mad queen and a psycho. Varys sees it and is smart, Tyrion unfortunately is a poor judge of character