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Bring it to the Table (Patreon)

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2024-07-21 06:00:06
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Kev asked Stevie and Iain to join picking one subject from around the world of football and bring it to the table.

One this weeks show:

Bielsa on modern football

The pace of international football

Is 14 year old too young for pro football?

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stevan castrissios

Enjoyed the chat guys, great pod. Couldn’t get away from money being the main driver.

Pondo Sinatra

Really good debate! 👏For me, speed, strength & (crucially) playing system appear to be prioritised over individual skill. So many games are now like a game of chess with teams probing endlessly for that one chance to grab the all important first goal. Can only see it changing if TV viewing figures/attendances start markedly declining globally. 🇬🇧

Graeme Homer

I find it funny that when talking about Bielsa’s point and you talk about over coaching, patterns of play and systems and Pep’s influence when he is a pioneer of it and one of Pep’s idols alongside Cruyff and may others try and copy them three. On street players, we will never get them again as the generation who grew up playing in the street have created a generation that now moan when kids playing in the street and complain for no balls signs up.

Iain Shaw

Enjoyed that, good listen

Kirk Guthrie

Stevie I hear you about the monetization of football. I doubt north American teams will ever be world-class as it's all rich kids that are able to play at the top youth levels. The cost of kits, traveling around the continent, facilities etc. It's fully inaccessible to the poor kids who play on dirt patches. My dad played pro in Scotland, but moved to Canada and never bothered putting me in travel soccer because of the cost and roughly 0% chance of ever reaching a higher level. The older I get, the more the football industry seems like a farce

David Innes
>>144236465

There are plenty of places for kids to play football - the bigger problem is most of them prefer to sit playing computer games all day

Gregg
>>144236465

Or the parents who decry the death of the street footballers won’t let them out to play 😂

Tom McDavid

7 a side up to U10’s then U12’s is a transition to 9 a side. 11 a side after that.

Graeme Homer
>>144236465

The point was on street players, you can’t play on the streets anymore. Wherever I go whether here in NI or back home to Scotland it’s either no ball games, locked up pitches not used or needing paid for. If you do find just a patch of grass it’s covered in dog shite by lazy owners, glass or destroyed by the local wasters. I know plenty of kids that live there Xbox but when it’s nice they want to be out but there’s nowhere that’s either good enough or doesn’t come with hassle.

Russ

I half agree with Bielsa, but I do think people look back on football pre Guardiola with reverance when in reality the football (over here at least) was in the air as much as it was on the deck, especially post Heysel. The players waist lines were out of control and diving was just as rife as it is now. I'm sure people will disagree but honestly, go back and watch the tunnel incident game between Arsenal v Utd - the amount of play acting and diving is beyond belief. Ashley Cole puts in a dive that would get him assassinated by Carragher on MNF these days. Mid 00's premier league, pre Guardiola, was fucking turgid. I'm of the mind that Guardiola's style isn't a good watch but today's game is technically, at the base level at least, miles better than it was 20 years ago. Less Positionism in football will lead to a better product though - how that happens I don't know. Guardiola's style is so popular because it's so effective, ye olde reliable if you like. Sorry for the rambling lads!

Jamie Gilchrist

Enjoyed the show guys, but wow, Stevie’s opening contribution was 72 mins long 😂😂 Breathe mate!! 😂