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Oooooh beauty culture. Learn how it works from a psychological perspective with Dr. Renee Engeln, professor at Northwestern and author of the book, "Beauty Sick." 

She does NOT mince words or tiptoe and I love that about her. This woman is a straight fucking shooter. If you've every struggled with appearance or feel deeply conflicted with your relationship to beauty standards and the effort it takes to meet them: this ones's for you. Also up: a Bonus Minisode of all of your letters with varying perspectives on makeup, body image, confidence, gender identity, media and more. This one was fascinating and also difficult to make but I think so so so important. Let me know what you think and share it if you think it might help others. 

Mascaraless in a hotel,

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Kalology Part 1:

https://art19.com/shows/ologies-fb/episodes/3bd0b315-7a5b-4b2b-ae5a-4d3ed1d782c9

Bonus Minisode -- Your Letters:

https://art19.com/shows/ologies-fb/episodes/3f198e2f-1bf0-4d0b-ada1-a68a1b180f0a

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Kalology (BEAUTY STANDARDS) with Renee Engeln

We love it. We hate it. BEAUTY CULTURE. Looking good can make us feel decorated, empowered and more confident -- but why? And why are certain groups subtly told to "make-up" for their appearance? What's the line between self-care and oppression?

Comments

Shannon Patterson

This one's going to take multiple listens to fully digest. Great episode!

diamonata

Alie this episode was amazing. I so needed to hear that. I'm a 25 year-old grad student making like 26k a year and I recently found myself seriously contemplating $2000 under-eye filler because my advisor always asks if I'm ok when I'm not wearing makeup... Like... So glad to hear it's society's insanity and not just me.

Alie Ward

This made me tear up seriously -- you're perfect the way you are. Fuck that and save the cash for a vacation.

Stephanie Carcieri

OK Mike's email about his wife had me crying on my way to work today. So many powerful storied! So much of it was disheartening to listen to as well (You can't be asexual because you're plus sized, so you don't have a choice?! I CAN'T EVEN DEAL WITH THIS). Agree with Shannon, I'm definitely going to be listening to this one multiple times...

Anders Høeg Nissen

Oh, and thanks for yet another aaawesome episode, which hit me, even if (or because) I’m a white dude.

Katy Powell-Anderson

Alie, this episode was so wonderful. Although the message was somewhat pessimistic at times (society is doomed) I felt inspired to hear such an articulate discussion about the crazy beauty standards we are surrounded by. Definitely one of my favourite episodes so far, will need a re-listen!

Katy Powell-Anderson

The minisode was amazing too, loved hearing the experiences of other Ologites, who by virtue of being listeners are cool af regardless of appearance. Finally, I’m so glad that making the podcast has been so positive, working on TV must be exhausting in terms of how much appearance is judged. Seems bonkers when really all that matters is what’s in your brain!

Neal Williams

As a straight white male, lowest difficulty setting (see John Scalzi), thanks for the great episode. Why do I learn these things so late in life and not even think about it before (slaps head)? I've passed pod link to my niece. Hopefully she sees the light.

Mark Donahue

Fantastic episode! It's amazing how deeply ingrained it all is. The second part was great, too. So cool to hear so many perspectives.

Lexie Haranda

As I was listening to this, I got home and opened up a catalogue that said something like “Confidence is sexy”. Mhmm 🤨 This episode was so great and really got me thinking! Like, why am I growing my hair out so I can have an updo at my wedding when I really don’t like longer hair and hate spending time styling it? (I have curly hair). Why am I spending 15 minutes washing makeup brushes? Your comment about not having to keep your hair a certain way reminded me of when I buzzed my head four years ago and it was seriously the most freeing feeling. In fact, I would love to hear a future episode that digs further into society’s expectation on hair. Thank you so much for this amazing episode!

Jennifer Dorsett

I just wanted to say thank-you for what you do with this podcast, and just in general as a human!! XOXO

David Byrd

Wow! You've done it again, Alie--taken a topic that I didn't think I would be especially interested in, and made a great podcast about it that I enjoyed more than I expected to. (I'm still catching up on episodes, as I discovered this late. I have enjoyed ALL of them, but this is one of my favorites, so far.) It was enlightening, educational, entertaining, and sometimes infuriating. Not that you two were infuriating, but just how messed up society can be. :-( I feel like I should apologize to women on behalf of us men. Sorry! I don't know how things can be fixed, but I guess increased awareness and getting people thinking about the situation is a good first step. So thanks for making us think about it! Keep doing what you're doing--looking forward to more!

Karen White

Today I’m celebrating my 56th birthday. And I’m feeling beautiful without my makeup or straightened hair or a perfect figure. My darling husband knows how much I love Ologies and made me a Patreon, AND got me a cool Ologies T.. I’m feeling pretty fancy just now...

Bree

I listened to this episode a week late, while putting on my makeup this morning, and while feeling self-conscious about some photos I saw on social media from an event last night. I felt really good during the event and really bad when I saw the photos. I don't know why. Psych, I do know why, I just know that it's irrational. This was a good episode. Thank you.

Ashley Kelly

This was such an amazing episode. I loved it so much. Growing up I always had a distorted view of my body and looks, I took drastic measures to be thin. Eating disorders are a bitch and run in my family. When I was 24 and couldn’t get pregnant because I was too sick, I went for treatment. I’ve been symptom free for 6 years now, and a mother to two girls. I don’t want them to grow up seeing their mom (like all the moms before me in my family) obsessed with looking a certain way. Beauty Sick is now on my “to read list”and I hope I can be strong enough to set a good example for my girls. Women aren’t put on this earth to just look at, we are so much more. Thank you Ali.

Bonnie Flint

Loved this episode. I stopped wearing make up during my 20's in college. Kind of assumed I'd have to wear it again when I started a "real job" but then went on to grad school and worked as an ecologists. Most women in ecology don't wear much make up. Then decided to be a high school teacher. Wore make-up to the interview because I read a study that said people trust women who wear it more. Before starting the job, I struggled mightily trying to decide if I had to wear it to work. Decided not to because I needed to show my students that women are not required to wear it (especially working at a boy's school!). Haven't looked back. I spend like 15 minutes getting ready in the morning. Bye, unfair beauty requirements. I know that wouldn't be easy or even possible for some people but I love it and save so much money! Regarding the time when women reach the point of giving up on trying to look 20. Once I stopped getting sexually harassed by strangers, I figured I was officially old by societal standards. That's when I was 35. And let me tell you, I love being old if it means no more jerks commenting on my appearance!

Madelyn Winter

Oh boy howdy, I'm the guy with enough time to do all the stuff you just discussed! I am performance art (for others to evaluate) professionally, it's my job, it's worth it for me, I enjoy it. I have an excel profit:loss report for my physical presentation. I almost always work/live without makeup but I do have some medical symmetricalizing. Going into kalology is tempting, I'm more interested in why people want me to do my job than actually doing it.