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I looked for a long time to see if this was an Ology and I shrieked to find the word... Modern Toichographology. So, murals. It's on.

Murals are hugely important in the culture of some cities and Philly is one of those cities! Tomorrow I'm meeting up with a mural artist who's worked hard to make Philly more beautiful, and he's giving me the how and why and where of murals.

Leave your questions about murals below. Maybe it'll inspire you to beautify a blank wall in your neighborhood?

Paintbrush poised,

Ol' Dadward

*also does anyone know the work of InkDwell? I'm chatting with Jane Kim to see if we can meet up while she works on a California mural. So she may appear in this episode as well. Fingers crossed!

Comments

Tim and Ashley Flintoff (sv Sirius)

Is there a technical difference between “murals” and “graffiti”? Or is it just a social thing? Does the difference relate to issues of racism and classism, specifically in urban environments?

Shelby Reardon

Is there a way to measure the value a mural brings to a community? Have murals been used to change the opinions of "a certain part of town"?

Winnie’s a Witch

what actually makes something a mural? is there criteria? how does one define a ~mural~

Anna Thompson

My city (Fort Worth, TX) has been filling blank spaces with murals to deter graffiti. Does this strategy work?

Camille Krouse

What is the process from start to finish of creating a mural? I'm an art teacher and get asked often to do murals but I always say no because the process seems so daunting!

Anna Thompson

Do artists use special paint and brushes or is it just stuff from Home Depot that anyone could get?

Annalise De Young

How big does a painting have to be to be a mural? Is it required to be outdoors?

Nico Price

I would love to hear about the cultural fuckery in the US in terms of “mural” versus “graffiti” and to know if these same dichotomies exist in other places. Follow up: any & all information about cultural movements & murals/graffiti appreciated.

Kendall M

How big does a mural need to be for it to be considered a mural? Like is art work that covers a bedroom wall considered a mural or that too small?

Amber

Is a mosaic a mural?

Adrien WikiSleep Sala

I grew up in a super small coastal town on Vancouver Island called Chemainus, which is famous for its murals. It was formerly a logging town that went bust, then used murals to become a tourist destination. It's a bit gruff at times, but for some reason, no one ever messed with the murals. My question is what is the difference between a mural and graffiti and why do we view them differently?

Kyla C (KAI-luh, rhymes with Myra or Lyla)

Are there intersections between rewilding/gardening and murals? What are interesting ways people are making murals a part of the natural environment?

Adrien WikiSleep Sala

I just posted about this. I grew up in a super small coastal town on Vancouver Island called Chemainus, which is now famous for its murals. It was formerly a logging town that went bust, then used murals to become a tourist destination. It's a bit gruff at times, but for some reason, no one ever messes with the murals. Murals completely changed the dynamic of the town.

Quincey Robisheaux

How do you feel about illegal graffiti art in the world of murals?

Adam Weaver

As an artist, how do you connect your murals to the communities they are displayed in? Do you speak to people on the street? Host town hall sessions? Sit at a bar and collect ideas?

S-R Patreon Content Dependency

This!!! I’ve seen some ugly AF “murals” and some breathtaking “graffiti” – how do municipalities determine what’s graffiti and what’s a mural?

Leora Shimon

what's the coolest/weirdest/most mind-boggling trompe l'oeil (sp?) mural you've seen or made?

Stephanie

For Jane Kim: Thank you so much for your online course through Cornell on painting birds! I may not be much of an artist still but your calming voice and patient instruction have made the experience a lot of fun. I've been dying to know this about The Wall of Birds: Who decided which birds would make the cut? What were the criteria for the birds you ultimately painted on the wall?

sarah de jesus

Can we talk about murals vs graffiti? I feel like murals are things that people pay to have on their buildings whereas graffiti is artwork someone didn’t ask for. I would also like to ask about the cultural significance of graffiti and murals and how this kind of art is used for political movements or bringing awareness to other parts of society that people try to ignore (Diego Rivera with communism and Basquiat I think started with graffiti but then was accepted into the art world, for example). Also I’m noticing so many more murals being commissioned. I live in Arizona and the mural culture is strong here. What’s it like in different places? Sorry this is so long. I’m excited. Thanks Alie. First time question asker here :)

Connor they them

I've heard many times how murals have a calming effect on children. Is there any scientific research to back that up? And have they done any research on whether the same might be true for adults? Should we cover the capital in murals just in case in an attempt to stop the adults there acting like children? I don't see how it could hurt.

Diana Teeter

How do you feel when an old mural is “refreshed” by a different artist. For example there is a popular mural artist (forgot his name 😬😬😬) that did a lot of ocean themed murals in New England. One painted in New London,CT that was very beautiful was a bit worn looking so it was “touched up” by someone less skilled (to put it delicately). Is this a common practice or was this an odd case? Is it considered poor etiquette to do this? Also BIG apologies to the artist that did the touch up job! Murals are HARD and I’m sure you did what you could to the best of your skills

Marisa

I lived in Philadelphia for 40 years and I'm so happy that you get to see all the wonderful murals there. How is the image transferred from paper/computer to a wall, especially a large building?

JJ

How do I get invited to Mural's wedding?

Connor they them

People always talk about the murals in Greece and Rome. They are cool and I understand why they are important, but I never hear about murals from other cultures. What are some non Roman/ Greek murals from the ancient world you would recommend looking into? I would love to hear about African and Asian murals.

Tiny Things by Bowen

Are there movements to make the world of murals accessible to new artists? I know we have a local festival called Sunny Dayz that connects seasoned artists to newbies-is that a trend nation-wide?

Michelle Boyle

Oooh, I just returned from wandering around Mexico for quite a while. It seems there that muralism is the culmination of a unique stylistic art, history and revolution all rolled into one. Is that a fair statement? What more can your guest tell us?

Jenny Lowe Rhodes

Kelsey Montague has adapted her wing murals all over the country. Are there other murals that work in multiple places, or does it make more sense to have a mural that reflects where it is?

Jonathan Slowey

I grew up with Vietnamese mural art on my walls that always seemed to be made of some kind of lacquer and mother of pearl. I notice this type of mural in a lot of Vietnamese homes. This is very obviously different than murals we see on street walls in the US. Do murals tend to differ greatly across countries?

Matt Hirschl

What do you consider to be THE mural that has led to the MOST positive change?

BeckytheSassySeagrassScientist

How does being a muralist actually work? Do you like practice on giant roles of paper? Is there a permitting process for public areas even if the wall is privately owned? This seems super complicated!

Laurel

Same but San Francisco! I live in the Mission for many years on a street famous for mural and a big stop on the Precita Eyes tours. Where is the line between graffiti and mural? Is the money exchange? Is it pre planning? How does an artist get enough street cred or art world cred to go from something that needs to be painted over to something that needs to be protected and celebrated.

Gordon Haas

Alie Ward: I assume you've talked with your buddy TEUTHOLOGIST Sarah McAnulty, who's working on a mural in Philadelphia right now, with muralist Sean Martorana?

Julie-Anne

Are murals ever used to deter tagging and other vandalism?

Alia Myers

How many murals are there?

Alia Myers

Whats the different btwn murals and graffiti, really?

Alia Myers

Where in the world are there the most murals?

Alia Myers

Are there certain cultures that value murals as art more highly than others?

Alia Myers

Who is your favorite muralist? (Is that a word?)

BeckytheSassySeagrassScientist

Murals make me think of political activism and resistance, like Diego Rivera and graffiti culture. Is this part of the core of the art form? Or just for some artists?

Nathan-Andrew

Are murals generally commissioned? If so, is it by the building owner, or by a larger, neighborhood organization? Or does the artist start the ball rolling by shopping the idea around?

Average_pi

do people fix the murals every year or let them run down naturally

Deli Dames

1) how big does a mural have to be? 2) does only one person work on a mural or do they hire people to help?

Michelle Lee

+ curious about the intersection of “street art” among the two as well!

daniel schmaniel

my mom would like to know what are the best murals in houston, or just your favorite?

Sage Scarberry

Is there any proven correlation between murals and crime/societal morale?

Sage Scarberry

Where does graffiti end and a meal begin?

Rachel

Gotta check out @jessieandkatey while working on a mural in Philly right now too! They're badasses and very experienced in toichographology ;)

Nina Giacobbe

No questions, just big shout out to MuralArts and they work they do!!

Kelli Brockington

I have contributed to a local mural here in San Diego that is a celebration of the San Diego River & it is still there and not messed with - Why do you think taggers will deface some murals & not others - especially if the defaced murals do not point to a political issue and is just nice art - are they just dicks?

Handrea

what is the biggest mural that has ever been created?

Trevor Hagedorn

Is it usually an artist that approaches the city or is it typically the other way around? Basically what is the process to get an official mural painted?

John Worster

Have murals replaced the billboards that you used to see on top of buildings? Or, have murals been used for advertising ?

Rozelyn Hesby

I LOVE inkdwell! Super psyched for this episode

Greg Walloch

I was helping paint a mural once and the cops rolled up and said over the loud speaker, 'You guys, even if it's really pretty you're still breaking the law.' and drove away. What is a mural and what is graffiti? Is it subjective? And does breaking the law matter if you're making things really cute?

Riikka Puttonen

In my country there's been a boom of apartment buildings getting murals for many years now. I know most of them just hire an artist to design and paint the mural but then do not make a contract with them to fix and maintain the artwork. What's your opinion on this, are unmaintained murals cool or no? What about someone else maintaining the artist's original artwork? (pronounced REEK-kah POOT-toh-nen)

sinead mc donald

First time question asker :) I'm in Dublin, Ireland, and murals and street art have been super important in political activism here in recent years (we've had a marriage equality referendum and an abortion access one too, and the success of each was in no small part due to conversations started by murals). There's also a very rich tradition of political and protest murals in Northern Ireland from the Troubles right through to the present day. Do they have a similar function in Philly, or further afield in the US?

Sadie Vipond

What are the mediums for murals? Just spray paint? How does one learn to use spray paint??

curly fry

What is the distinction between murals and vandalism if a mural was not permitted to be painted somewhere? Is this even an important distinction to make?

Spencer Parks

I love me some murals. My dad actually made a mural (with the help of the neighborhood) many years ago that's still there! He also proposed a fun mural for the side of an Irish Restaurant that got declined but it's a good thing because that building is no longer there. Our little city has really upped it's mural game in the last 5-10 years and I hope we keep going. If you've traveled to other cities, which ones have the best murals? I recommend Reykjavik!

curly fry

What is the best mural you’ve ever seen/made?

Violet Sarah

There is a GREAT neighborhood in Miami, FL called Wynwood where almost the entire area is covered in street murals. Some are protected, and some are painted over in the middle of the night, guerrilla warfare style. The murals are incredible and are a part of the neighborhood art culture.

Carson Tippit

Shoutout to the mural capitol of Alaska: Seward. May not be on the same scale as Philly but little old ladies of the Mural Associate of Seward, Alaska are doing their darndest.

Carson Tippit

Question about ancient murals: what do we know, where can I see them?

Greg Walloch

I live near some murals by Kashink in West Hollywood. Their large scale "50 Cakes Of Gay" series took some days to create. I've always wondered if the pieces were commissioned by the city or just happened?

Leila

Such a fun topic! I’d love to hear what you think of “alleries” (mural galleries in alleys) and how you would encourage folks to get one in their city

TJ Mckenna

Here in Cincinnati, OH there are many beautifully painted murals on buildings as your walking through downtown! But then there’s also graffiti, I’m curious as to where the distinction lies between them.

Savannah Glenn

what is the oldest mural that still exists today? do we know how long it took to be created?

Holden A. Goose

How big does a drawing have to be to considered a "mural"

Chris Whitman

Loads of questions about graffiti versus murals (when does one become the other or are they the same?). Graffiti is one of the 5 elements of hip-hop culture (DJing, MCing, Beatboxing, Breakdancing and Graffiti). Hip Hop originated in the Bronx in the early 70s. How did Graffiti migrate from Philly to NYC to become part of Hip-Hop culture? And why?

Gordee

In KCMO they did a bunch of murals on the road during covid. Are those popular in other places as well? How do murals bring together people and cultures?

Scarlet P

is graffiti just an unsanctioned mural?

wendy Forman

Not a question.. as a chauvinistic Philly native I just want to make sure that everyone knows how important murals are in Philadelphia and how long this has been going on.

Lizzy Carr

What’s up with those butterfly wing murals? I feel like every other business I go into now has one on the wall 😵‍💫

Olivia Eliasson

Why and how do you use the random squiggles and shapes to help make the murals?

Kpelliss

Someone has been busy…..

Krystie Sketches

Oo talk about Wyland! His whale murals are some of my favorites! Glad to have you in my city!

Katherine Morse

Are murals always painted? What about a huge photograph? What is the boundary between mural and billboard?

Tara Villanova

Jane Kim is amazing! And a sweetheart to talk to so fingers crossed. I've loved her artwork for years and I just met her here in RI! (Where she has some of her artwork in a gallery). We both love nature and science and I even asked if her if she listens to Ologies!! She didn't say she might be on the podcast!! Two of my all-time favorite sciencey-naturey-artsy people in one podcast! How fantastic, so good for you both Alie :)

Heather Horton Whedon

As a professional studio artist (oil painter) I've always admired the heck out of those who can create worlds on such a large (and usually high up) scale. I'm wondering if there's a variety of media that muralists use, paint-wise. Spray paint? Brushes? Rollers? What sorts of things are staples in a muralist's supply box? Is air brushing a standard practice? Do they put a protective coating over the mural when it is complete and dried? When they drive past murals that they have completed and they have faded or chipped a bit, do they go mental wanting to go touch it up? What's the responsibility of the muralist to the mural after it's completed in terms of upkeep/repair etc or is it a one shot deal? Thanks very much! From my paintbrushes to yours, Heather

Kalila Elahi

How big does a mural have to be to be considered a mural? Could murals be small?

Lizzy Martinez

San Diego and San Diego county have a lot of public murals related to its area/town, some even famous (the ones with the whales/dolphins from like the 80s). Did the murals here in SD inspire other places to do the same? Or who started these town/area themed murals? And to the fellow Patreon who told me to look it up on one of my past questions, I'm clearly here asking my questions for the Ologist, not Google or Wikipedia.

Kasiah Sword @ Happy Day Paintings

OmG Love love love this SOOO much! As a muralist in the PNW I have all sorts of weird niche questions! Is the future of ,Ursula’s headed toward securing medium to walls with heavy polymers or will we be printing them at some point? Are the paints we use bad on the environment and can we reduce our impacts while still beautifying and encouraging expression? This one came up with some fold I did an internship with, who’s the first person to paint tromp l’oeil? Whose the first person to paint a broken wall? Have people been doing murals as long as we’ve been doing art??? What are some of the schools of mural styles? As in, are their institutions ?and or are there notable differences in stylings or approaches, perhaps regional preferences ? Do muralists argue over best approach? Do most artists accommodate for color blind viewers & how?

Lazer Introlegator

Is there a difference between murals and graffiti, and if so, where is that line drawn?

Annmarie Everhart

If you could paint a mural that was guaranteed to last forever, what subject/scene/etc would you paint?

Jess Slattery

Are there any distinctions that you as a mural artist make between murals & graffiti (other than maybe whether you have a permit)?

Terena

What are the best tools to use when creating a mural? Brushes? Type of paint? Color choices? Which colors fade and which hold up best?

Terena

Assuming a mural is planned on paper first, what kind of math are you doing to put that plan on the wall?

Teresa Gleason

How do you keep from getting overwhelmed when faced with a large, blank wall?

Shannon O'Grady

Where is the line between graffiti and mural?

Elsa Is Batman Now

(first time question asker also hi dad I love you!) Is there any correlation between graphic languages like hieroglyphs and murals?

Mariah Walzer

I'm going to ask the really basic question: what's the definition of a mural?

Will Clark

What is the most historically significant mural?

Lisa St

hahahahaha! was wondering about ursula!

Lisa St

Lots of great questions! I don't really have one, just wanted to share about an artist friend who is starting to put up a mural in nearby Hallowell (it's been in process over a year, and it's going up onto the building NOW!). https://christophercart.com/#

Lisa St

OK, here's a question, are murals really used to "brainwash the masses"? A quote from our former Maine governor, said after he removed the labor mural from the Dept of Labor building because he said it was innappropriate. One of many less than stellar things he did... thankfully it was taken from wherever he hid it and put up 2 years later in the state museum. (oh, and ST in my name is the first part of my last name, it's one of those french saint names.... so 'lisa saint') https://www.politico.com/story/2011/03/maine-governor-removes-labor-mural-052050

Archie George

What tricks do muralists use to preserve perspective on a tall vertical surface? Also Rivera Court at the Detroit Institute of Art is amazing- discuss?

Krystal Symons

How do you get practise and good enough to do the big beautiful murals? Making art, but especially at scale, requires practise. - Krystal Symons (sigh-mons 🇦🇺)

Gemma

How has anti-black racism affected black muralists?

Sharika Elahi

How do people get chosen to create murals? Can you be an artist who has never done mural art, so a total beginner, but still be chosen/allowed to paint a mural? Also who gets to choose who paints a mural on a certain street corner or store and what gets painted on it? Wondering what the whole process of commissioning someone to paint a mural looks like

Emily Staw-fur

You discuss the role that murals play in education/outreach of various topics?

Emily Staw-fur

What is the lifespan of a typical mural before it deteriorates or gets painted over?

Madeline DLC

Are cave paintings the earliest murals? What were they originally use for?

Ms. Nowak

When does graffiti become a mural?

Cate Muenker

How do you ask a building owner if you can paint on their property?? Do you make a deal to keep up on it and fix the mural if it starts to disintegrate? Or do you make a new one on top of the old one? Is there a contract?

Nathan Marion

Do we know what the biggest mural in the world is? Or the first mural? Why do we think humans started making murals?

Emily Yoshida

So excited for this, I love all of the murals around philly and telling friends/visitors about how extensive it is quite proudly. It's hard to frame this into a question per say but I'd love to just in general learn/discuss more on painted murals vs other mediums (ie moss)

Caitlyn Powell

What's the secret to reading graffiti? Is it supposed to be legible by someone?? Is it a different language??

princefancypants

Is there a minimum size art on a wall needs to be before it's considered to be a mural?

Amy Charlebois

What was your first mural? How do you scale it and not get lost mid-way? How do you feel about graffiti culture?

rikspieks

Are there studies on how murals affect peoples relationship to their environment, do they make people happier?

rikspieks

How are the decisions made, where a mural becomes painted?

Edward Mills

First time question asker long time listener: How much say does local government have on what murals can be painted? Has that historically been used to oppress anyone?

zombot

Have you heard of an artist who calls himself Wyland, who has painted dozens of murals on structures around the world depicting marine life? What do you think of him?

Hester Dingle

Do most murals start out with a plan? How are designs transferred from the drawing board to the final location (like are grids used, freehand, etc)

Jean Pompeo

What city has the most murals? Is there a specific mural (that you havent made) you love? Are there any protections in place to preserve murals or a library that documents them?

Emory Blair

Yes exactly! Can someone paint a mural without permission and it still be graffiti even though it is the exact thing someone would have paid them to do?

Katie Stalder

What role might technology play in creating large murals?

anthony willis

what usually inspires the murals that are painted around a town? and who decides when or if to change them?

Donia Conn

Can we ever consider graffiti a mural? If so, what are the distinctions?

Christina Craft

So many graffiti-esque murals in the Bay…what’s the distinction between mural and graffiti?

Nathalie Jones

Omg omg omg are you talking to the magic gardens guy??? When I lived in philly, seeing his work around South Phil always made my day.

Mikayla Humiston

A situation like this happened this past January in northern New Hampshire where town officials want to take down a beautiful mural painted by local high school students. It is currently a pending case, here is the URL to more info about it on The Institute for Justice webpage: https://ij.org/case/new-hampshire-donut-mural/

Mikayla Humiston

Some murals span the whole wall of a building - how do they scale it to be so big and keep the proportions in tact?

Hannah Boyd

What's the difference between graffiti and a mural? How is it that some street artists like Banksy are praised for their work when other artists are viewed as vandals?

Sarah Meaden

Do you think murals are an appropriate memorial place? There's a small town near where I grew up that had a bunch of murals commissioned to honor the native people who were displaced when the town went up. All of the murals were done by white people and now are tagged with graffiti pretty often. I know privilege may come into play with this question but I'm genuinely interested in an ologist's opinion.

Max Low

What's up with all the abstracty-colourful-patterney murals everywhere in gentrifying areas? The ones with lots of multicoloured geometric shapes and stuff. Do you think they have any merit or are the visual signature of rising housing costs? (This could just be a UK thing...)

Don Elliot

Is there a point at which something is considered graffiti instead of a mural? Is it some interpretation of the law, or that the art is sponsored/paid for?

Leslie Chu

How different is it to paint a mural rather than, say a piece of artwork on a canvas? Does the process of how its painted changed? For example, if there is a change in the media used (like using an "outdoor" lasting paint rather than acrylics) influence how a piece is executed? In a similar way, what is the kind of learning curve that comes with painting on such a large scale?

Marcus Hollyer

I live in Belfast where there are so many political murals related to the sectarian violence of the Troubles and the communities that are still divided by religious and political differences. Is Belfast unique in this context of using murals in this way?

Ted Vician

There were tons of murals/graffiti on the West Side of the Berlin Wall and other places in Berlin. Some were still up when I visited in 2015 or 2016. Murals seem to be pretty common in Beirut, too.

Pseudonym Jones IV

What is the weirdest, most interesting place you've heard of murals/grafitti being created?

Cassandra Fallaw

do you rent cranes to do high murals? do you ever get scared if you're very high up?

Ted Vician

I assume you know about Skype A Scientist recently-completed mural about sea life in Philly. On a related note, there’s an interesting documentary on Showtime about graffiti art/murals and the artists who paint those on freight train cars.

Keely Chavez

1st time question asker: when I was a teen I successfully lobbied the city council in my home town (Santa Fe, NM) to fund a call for graffiti artists to create graffiti murals in in spaces where problematic graffiti was common to channel that creative spirit positively. In New Mexico, we have a history of amazing mural artists. As art is of its time, Do you see more cities moving toward funding public art to include “graffiti art” in public space, especially as a way to harness the abilities of young artists?

Hannah Michel

what hoops do mural artists have to jump through before they can make art on buildings? I see lots of blank walls downtown in the city in Ontario where I live, and I wonder how hard it would be to get a mural project happening?

Amanda Burns Art

As an artist who has yet to get to “quit your day job” level and struggle with task prioritization, is the majority of time spent as a muralist finding and securing the next gig? Is it seasonal? How is the funding done? How does the sausage get made and sold?

Grace Ammons

are the bots in my instagram DM's ever going to shut up and stop asking to paint a mural of my face? (first time asker <3)

Milan Ilnyckyj

What is the ologist's view of people spraypainting on murals?

The Aerial Mapper

When corporations or governments hire you to paint a mural, is there a popular theme that is asked for over and over again? Or do you mostly get creative freedom?

Michelle Fullner

I love Jane Kim so much! I hope it works out to meet up with her!

Erin Mecchi

3rd time asker, 0th time answered-er lol i live in philly and this one made me tell all my friends about ologies! question: how do muralists sketch out their lines on the wall itself prior to adding paint? i'd imagine using a pencil is kind of futile on brick/cinderblock/stucco etc. also, i know that muralists often draft out their plans using a grid as a reference for ratios, is that something this ologist does? thanks! :^)

Eric Hortop

FTQA: tell me all about mural preservation! Keeping the colours punchy, moving them when their buildings are slated to go away, murals in museums...

Holden A. Goose

How big does a wall drawing have to be to be considered a mural? Can a statement like "pancakes are better than waffles" be considered a mural if there's enough art around the text? What if the drawing is big enough but really really bad?

Lee Horton

If you could paint a mural anywhere in the world where would you want to paint it?

Andrew Piechocki

Also, in some places, there are protections put in place to preserve murals.

Annabelle

What inspires your murals, what do you hope your murals will do for people and public spaces?

Between Dumplings

I founded my nonprofit partly to protect and restore murals in Chinatown. We are newly certified and just got our first grant from a prestigious foundation. I would love to share some of our murals with Ologies! Can’t wait for this one!

Scott Hanley

You can easily tag @ologies on instagram with posts of murals if you use said social platform.

Between Dumplings

I do. I tag and msg Alie so much she's gonna think I'm a stalker. Good idea though. I'll try one more.

Ruby Chan-Frey

AH!! Murals!! How big does it have to be to be a mural? What’s the coolest shit you’ve ever put on a wall? Why are murals as an art form so often used as a social messaging platform?

Ruby Chan-Frey

Can you talk at all about the history of graffiti and graffiti culture? It’s one of my favorite types of mural!!

You Can Be The Judge

Can you talk about the cultural social significance of using graffiti to stake a claim over territory. I know people look at this behavior as problematic but its also very interesting from an ethnological/human behavioral perspective. The worst part of it for me is how sad it is to see an awesome piece being covered over by dumb random letters. I'd rather see more graffiti everywhere than see worse artists covering over the work of better artists.

Kayla Tozier

How do you plan out a mural on such a large surface?