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Here is my full length unedited reaction to BoJack Horseman 4X11!Streamer: Netflix

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Haulispecial

Can't believe we're gonna be starting season 5 soon. We're already more than halfway through the show

Avery Winther

I just adore this episode, it's so powerful. Making her mother into a ghost, as you say, is such a good choice; she's a non-presence, but she still looms so large over Beatrice's life. Horror movies wish they could pack the punch of "You don't wanna end up like your mother, do you?"

CapN_Hoodie

One of the best episodes of the series with an amazing twist at the end. The best part is that, like the clues to her being on amphetamines, Hollyhock being BoJack’s sister is heavily hinted at by Beatrice throughout the season. When Beatrice first meets Hollyhock she says “Oh it’s you, you came back. You look just like him” implying that she remembers taking her away from Henrietta and she sees the resemblance to her true father Butterscotch. During the argument where BoJack is saying she cares more about the doll than she did him she calls him a ‘useless waste of her husband’s jism’ as a hint at the affair, but it just sounds like she’s insulting her son. There’s a bunch more and it really is amazing seeing it on a rewatch, the writing on this show truly is next level.

Eve

I love that Bojack was waiting for her to be lucid so he could lay into her and destroy her and this is what he chooses to do with her moment of lucidity. Also when hollyhock leaves Bea mentions in a later scene "oh that's right, I took her" and I love that hint towards this.

Bre nda

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dys

I couldn't believe you clocked Henrietta being Hollyhock's mom at the *very beginning* of the episode. BTW Henrietta is voiced by Majandra Delfino, who I know from the late 90s series Roswell that I liked as a kid but got pretty terrible by the end and probably wouldn't hold up well as an adult today.

hammiuwu

If you've never read The Velveteen Rabbit, it is a children's book about scarlet fever and how all of the toys and belongings of an infected child needed to be destroyed- usually by being burned. This was the best available solution at the time for sterilizing the home and preventing reinfection. That memory was literal, but the setting is a bit exaggerated. Beatrice only remembered the fire and her father's words after her baby doll was thrown into the fireplace, so that becomes all we see in her memory. In this episode, we see that the memory of her baby doll being burned is what led Beatrice to refuse aborting Bojack, and I think the context of that memory is interesting psychologically. In Beatrice's childhood, she was constantly denied autonomy and indulgence. No heavy lifting, no sweets, no emotional support from her father. Eventually, she loses her brother, which leads to her losing her mother. After that, she has nothing but her belongings to provide emotional support. Her toys, books, and her baby doll. When her father takes all of that away from her, she is left with nothing to comfort her from a time before she lost her brother and mother. When she has a natural response of emotional devastation, she is threatened with losing one of the only things left for her- her mind. Her father has left her with nothing but fear and anxiety. So, when her denial of her father's wishes leads to her becoming pregnant, she cannot fathom giving up the one thing that is now HERS alone, only to be forced back into her father's plans for her future. She clings to Bojack and Butterscotch, hoping she will finally build a family to share the emotional support she never had. Its only natural that she thinks of her lost baby doll in that moment.

KT

"Promise me Beatrice, that you'll never love anything as much as I loved Crackerjack." But little Beatrice loved that doll, and it was ripped away the same way as Crackerjack was. I never put it together how direct Joseph's threat was there, that she shouldn't have the same reaction to the loss as Honey did.

KT

To clarify, I thought he meant the "womanly emotions" thing generally, I've never tied it directly to the loss of a child.

James Rogers

The final exchange between Beatrice and BoJack is so heartbreaking. Especially BoJack evoking memories of eating ice cream; a treat she was denied throughout her childhood and may never have indulged in as an adult.