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Artin Dadgar

Fight scene this episode is so 🔥!

Dae

Drop double episodes 🙏 1 ep every 5 days is slow to wait for. Others like the perfect mix do 3 eps a week

Artin Dadgar

I get your point but they’ve said they’re too busy to do more than 2 eps a week

DRIP DROP

Different paces man. I watch 5 different channels (including the perfect mix). They are the only channel who uploads daily. The schedule is already set, and they are doing fine. S&P do 2 shows twice a week (twd and expanse), Severance (once a week), and a movie. Give them a break.

Tae Kellz

More Shane glazing lmao

DRIP DROP

Right in the intro 💀

Nathan Jasper

This episode hits so close to home for me. Beth's mental struggles is something I empathize with greatly. And Andrea makes me so angry, like... I get it, she wanted to die in the CDC but to tell a mentally ill young girl that if she wants to die go ahead, fuck that shit. Andrea lost her family, Beth still has Maggie and her dad and stepfam. But, something I can confirm from experience, sometimes the attempt is what makes you realize you want to live. Thankfully in both cases, someone was there.

Nyia

First off Andrea was very selfish and manipulative this ep! Just bc you couldn’t commit s******* at the CDC doesn’t mean u can go around and encourage a 16 year old girl whose struggling with depression to just do that or anyone for that matter! If I was Maggie I would have beat her a**! Now Shane and Rick. Shane lied to Rick about not liking lori before the apocalypse, bc didn’t Shane say to Lori last ep “it was a long time coming” so don’t give that bs! 🙄 And this is Shane’s 2nd attempt to try and kill Rick let’s keep that in mind so I don’t blame him for attempting to leave Shane a** for the walkers! I would do the same. And it’s easy to follow a guy like Rick to lead instead of Shane bc Rick is the most understanding and level headed and u can trust him with the whole group! whereas Shane will do what’s necessary for specific people he cares for which is just Lori and Carl!

Kristoffer

I have NEVER, EVER, heard anyone take Shanes side this much, its kinda wild, lmao, but still great reactions!

DRIP DROP

THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHANE AND RICK. If Rick was on that bus, shane wouldn't have thought twice about leaving him to be with Lori.

James Waters

The thing with the baby is there is no way to know if it's shane's or ricks in this world right, so what do you do? Do you let the child have two dads and one mum just in case, which would complicate things even more for no reason? It doesn't matter if Shane is the biological father, the fact is Rick is Lori's husband and there's a chance he is the father, so it should be assumed and accepted by Shane that Rick is, because Lori is Ricks wife, not Shanes. It's as simple as that imo.

Nathan Jasper

Oh man imagine getting one per week when it was airing then having to wait 5-6 months for the next season to premiere. That's how the OG fans did it LOL

Dae

Did that when I first started watching since season 3 lol

Farbod

Exactly this.

Farbod

100%

Korivex

So Beth JUST learned that her mom was dead... not sick. The apocalypse just started for her. She is 16 and grieving, you don't let a kid make a life and death choice in a moment of grief. You let her get through it and then she can decide when she isn't in an emotional state. I think it was wrong of Andrea to let her make that choice in that state of mind. I don't think she would have acted the same way if that had of been HER sister Amy.

spartanandpudgey

not considering 1 person because it works for the majority is bullying, especially without discussing it with relevant parties ... 😅 Pudgey

Farbod

Yeah. No one says "suicide is a choice" when its a kid dealing with trauma...

Lyn Hurst

I wouldn't put Andrea on the suicide prevention hotline. 1-800-Off-Yourself

Natalie-Anne

Rick is so damn fine when he is fighting & bloody 🤣 🔥 I love seeing him stand his ground.

JonSnow21

Why does Pudgey keep questioning why Rick gets to make the choices over Shane? Here’s why , He’s far more intelligent, has some form of moral compass and cares about the entire group and not just Lori and Carl like Shane. Shane would sacrifice and leave behind any member of the group except for those two and that’s why he would be a terrible leader , he doesn’t care about anyone else . Side note Shane lost that fight with Rick when Rick isn’t even his prime yet which is hilarious bc Spartan always acts like Shane is a warrior (which he is a great fighter) and he got beat so bad that he tried to kill Rick with a wrench and I would be fine if Rick left Shane behind considering Shane literally tried to kill him minutes ago and also I would even say Daryl in s2 would be a better leader than Shane . Rick says it’s his child bc Shane literally hooked up with his wife weeks after he died and it’s his family, in what world does Shane get to raise the child even if it is , That should be his punishment after he betrayed his best friend.

SnorlaX

your hair looks so pretty Pudgey

Korivex

Not sure I'd want to repair my friendship with a guy who pointed a gun at me and considered shooting me, then tries to SA my wife, then tried to kill me over a prisoner. The thing is about the baby.... there are no DNA tests, there is no way to know who's baby it is biologically.... but it is growing inside Lori, RICK's wife and so HE will raise it because it is HIS family so they will assume it is Rick's unless in the future it can be proven otherwise.

Korivex

Also, Shane does NOT love Lori. Like he said... they kept HIM alive. He used them as an excuse to survive and do whatever it took to keep them alive... aka, keep himself alive. They are his EXCUSE.... just like Lori said to him.

Korivex

I agree except Beth's stepmom is dead... she was in the barn.

Lyn Hurst

I give S&P a bit of credit for letting off the Shane glazing a bit. The thing with the baby is there is no way to know if it is Shane's or Rick's. Lori is married to Rick and they have Carl. No paternity tests in this apocalypse. The scene at the school was intense. I am an eternal optimist and did go through a period of depression, but I always talked it through with a therapist or a close friend if I felt suicidal. I kept thinking if I still want to do this tomorrow, I will think about it then. It was one thing that helped me with alcohol. I can drink tomorrow if I want, thank God tomorrow hasn't come for over 30 years. There are some black and white situations that used to make sense in the real world, but the stakes are so high in this one. I personally think they should have shot Randall at the bar when he was caught on the fence. He has been through hell. Patching him up, dropping him off so his buddies don't show up, is too risky and he possibly will get devoured by Walkers makes no sense. Just prolonging the inevitable. Now in Beth's case, I don't necessarily think it is inevitable. I disagree with Andrea's talk with Lori. Lori is not privileged to have a family. Yes it is great, but no one is less than if they don't have one. I haven't been married for 20 years and like my single life. There ars worse things than being by yourself if you are content.

Korivex

They have over 160 episodes left to do, this will take a couple of years at this point. People will loose interest over time.

Nathan Jasper

I thought it was her mom in the barn not stepmom. Apologies! You're right though, I remember now Maggie said Josephine died when she was young, Annette was Hershel's second wife. Thanks for pointing that out!

JonSnow21

Shane is a terrible person for hooking up with his best friend’s wife like 2 weeks after , he deserves it and I love Shane as a character so much like top 3 imo but y’all are so biased that you force me to hate on him lol bc he’s nowhere near the leader Rick is or the character tbh.

JonSnow21

We knew it was coming lol.

Josh

SnorlaX

theres no need to have an answer for everything

Kristoffer

Kind of an unnecesary comment to make?

Tae Kellz

No it's not bullying. Yall are litterally wearing beer goggles when It comes to Shane. It doesnt matter if Shane thinks its his damn baby. Yall are tripping thinking Shane gets any rights to Rick's family after he has returned.

Natalie-Anne

Congrats on 30 years sobriety!! That’s amazing and you should be so proud of yourself. I am proud of you 👏🏼🩷

Kristoffer

I just dont like when people insinuate whats to come, you wrote Rick is not in his prime yet, i know its not a major thing, but still gives clues for whats to come, and i think they should just be able to watch without any kind of knowledge of whats to come, we can discuss what has happened tho and thats what the comments are for i think...

Alex Walker

Honestly if Rick would’ve left Shane I wouldn’t be mad. Rick would have just been doing the same thing that Shane did to Otis.

Connor W

That last sentence is a spoiler for a great moment. Why post that?

Josh

If you know you know you making it an spoiler now lol

JonSnow21

Bro it’s s2 and he’s the main character, which protagonist is ever in their prime early on , none.

Natalie-Anne

S&P there’s some hints to things to come in these comments just a heads up. 🤦‍♀️🙃

ShanB

People have no self control and I wish there was an auto ban for this kind of thing 😩

James Waters

Rick claiming the baby isn’t bullying Shane- it’s protecting his family’s stability in a world where division kills. Lori chose to recommit to Rick and ended things with Shane, telling him the affair was a mistake. Rick confronts Shane directly about the baby in this episode- that’s discussion, not just dictating. Forcing him into the family as the babies father against Lori's wishes (the only real way that Shane could act the father) would escalate conflict especially with Rick, not resolve it. I don't think it's a matter of it working for the majority, in my eyes Rick’s stance prioritizes the baby’s future over Shane’s feelings. And that's all assuming Shane is the father which isn't confirmed. If we were to assume it's Rick's then nothing I just said matters.

Kayleb Patel

Theyre only commiting to 8 seasons

ilona

theres no need to compare. they all have different lives.

Oriana Lo Presti

Pudgey, Rick makes the decisions because he is trusted and respected by EVERYONE. Both parties. Rick on the other hand is not trusted or respected by literally anyone, aside from Andrea. So yeah, people look up to Rick to make the ultimate decisions and lead.

Oriana Lo Presti

Yeah I'm kinda surprised they find it "unfair" to say it's Rick's child, I feel like... It's a given? Sperm or not

Oriana Lo Presti

If it weren't for Rick, they'd have been kicked out of the farm already, giving Lori and the baby a shit chance of making it.

ShanB

Andrea was dealing with her own pain about losing her family and took that out on Lori. She made some arguable points about Beth but I think the passion in her delivery about Lori’s life was rooted in jealousy. Who could take their family for granted after seeing them both in a coma at deaths door within a year? To be fair, Andrea shot Daryl I’d tell her to pipe down too if I was anyone in the group not just Lori 😆

Oriana Lo Presti

Delete this. Y'all need to stop foreshadowing stuff. Like why?

Lyn Hurst

Agree a lot of this is black and white, don't kill because you anticipate something that may never happen. But it's life and death here. Not choosing what we will have for dinner.

jmus

"Double your workload 🙏" Chill bro

Mony

Before there were paternity tests, if your wife got pregnant, no matter how, it was your baby. Thats just how it was. With their world the way it is, they're having to revert back to an older way of thinking. Lori is Rick's wife, it's his right to claim the baby or not. At least that's how it would have been. Anyway, great reaction!

Lyn Hurst

Lovely friend lol.

Tae Kellz

Yeah like why even mention stuff like that

Mony

It was better this time. Opinions about characters can change over time.

z87kl

To me, Shane and Lori were only together for weeks after the apocalypse started, Lori had thought she'd lost her husband and was coping with that. Rick came back, her husband, who fathers her son. I don't think simply because they were together for a few weeks Shane can claim any sort of owner ship over the child that Lori is going to have to carry in an already terrible world, it's her baby and I personally think Shane only cares because he wants something to cling to as he seems to lose himself, and needs an excuse to "protect" the ones he says he loves. I think it'd be different say the baby was already born and he had fathered it for some time, but here I don't think that applies. That is just my opinion though, and your reactions and thoughts are why I subscribed to see more! So thankyou for these reactions cant wait for next ep.

Cloudrazor

“not considering 1 person because it works for the majority is bullying” so would you agree that Shane bullied Hershel by killing all the ppl in the barn who he still considered family? Was it bullying when Shane didn’t want to help Daryl go back for his brother because he didn’t want to risk anyone else in the group? Was it bullying when Shane kept advocating to abandon the search for Sophia because it was a waste of time? It’s funny how all these instances are just harsh realities that everyone has to accept but now when poor Shane is getting a harsh reality check of his own, it’s bullying.

Mony

I always laugh when Andrea says she's on duty against walkers. She's really on duty against Daryl!

Korivex

Really??? Why? Who watches 8 seasons of a show and then just stops? If I knew this I never would have even bothered watching.

Lyn Hurst

Shane is not a relevant party at this point. He is more like a question mark. Is he the father no way to know. And Rick and Lori making the decision together that it is his baby could be wrong, but that is the way it would be sans a paternity test. Plus would all 3 of them parent the baby, Rick, Lori and Shane. It would be different if Lori had been with Shane long before Rick came back.

Farbod

Please delete this.

ShanB

When Rick said “you don’t love her - you think you do”, I think Shane proved his point when he said “…they kept me alive”. It’s likely that Shane doesn’t real life love Lori but rather his mental trauma from the end of the world was soothed by her. She and Carl represent the past and were an emotional crutch for him. He and Lori both used each other to cope and hold onto the past but only Lori was able to snap out of it because she had a real life spouse come back. Without them it’s like yall said he’s alone. That’s not love thats coping.

spartanandpudgey

we said we would comitt to 8 but if the demand is there and people are enjoying it as well as us then we will continue. we just didnt know if anyone would want reactions after that point based on what we were told, doesn't mean we wont continue

Amber

Guys, it's okay to accept and admit that Shane is the heel. He was WRITTEN to be the villain to Rick as the protagonist. Just some thoughts... Lori is mad at Shane because he makes decisions on her behalf without giving her all the information to make a decision herself. She's a grown woman, and even if he thinks he's more qualified to make those decisions - it's her life and ultimately up to her. Also, she could have been madly in love with him and him with her, but she has made her decision - she's done. And she's told him she's done. And it's because she cares about him that she keeps trying to let him down easy, but she's told him no numerous times and he will not listen. There's no way to know who the father of the baby is especially when it could easily be either man's, so why complicate and disrupt a family unit without proof? That's selfish on Shane's part. The point is, Lori, the only undisputed parent has made her decision and she's made herself clear. But Shane only cares about what he wants. Oh, and he was absolutely lying to Rick saying he'd never looked at Lori before because he told Lori the exact opposite ("It was a long time coming") just last episode. He's an established and known liar... He's lying to make himself look better. Like he does in every episode. At this point, where have you heard Rick say he's singularly in charge and makes the final decision? He's said that he's the leader of his family, and Lori has given many verbal invitations for people to leave if they didn't like they choices he was making for their family. Rick is telling Shane here - if you're going to stick with me and my family then you need to understand that they are MY family and I lead my family...not you. And the initial comment "How could you walk away? That would be irreparable damage." in reaction to Rick contemplating leaving Shane... Y'all realize that's...what... that's what Shane DID. So... what?

ZK

I think if Shane had behaved rationally up to this point, Rick would have relied on him to help him with his decision-making. I know y'all are big on empathizing with Shane and understanding WHY he's acting the way he is, and I do get it. But realistically, if someone tried to kill you with a wrench, I doubt you'd want them included in the decision-making lol. Also, Rick wanting him to come back to the farm after all that was huge IMO

Lyn Hurst

It is Beth's mom but Maggie's stepmother. Hershel and Annette got together after Maggie's mom died.

Nathan Jasper

See that's probably why I was confused right there. Thanks for clearing that up!

Nathan Jasper

There, I just changed it to stepfam to get rid of confusion 😆

Nathan Jasper

Ooh shots fired! You're right though!

DRIP DROP

Please dont listen to the goofy minority of TWD haters because they couldn't handle it. This show is great from start to finish and you will see. (I am screenshotting this comment for when we start season 9)

rachel pelfrey

is it me or was it the case that Lori was warning rick against shane. she was not telling tick to kill shane. She was warning him. you killed the living to protect whats youre. . shane thinks im his (meaning shane is like you and will kill for me) but you are right about how lori has not taken accountability for her actions with shane and in almost everything else. it isn't fair for her to act as if Shane intentionally left rick, and to carry that on like thats what happened order to cover her own guilt is cruel and cowardly. The issue is way less rick and WAY more Lori - - - also shane is always talking about how its a diff world, one of those men will be the child's father and ''in this world'' it doesn't matter who's the baby is biologically, it really doesn't because it can only be one for the sake of the baby and the whole family. But i def understand your empathy for Shane. you guys are right this show pushes us to agree and disagree simultaneously. its hard to form hard and fast coalitions

Andrew R

I don't think I've seen any reactors worship Shane as much as this channel. And I've watched over 10 reacters react to this series. The reason Andrea was in the wrong is because she told Maggie she would look after Beth and then walked away. She blatantly lied. Regardless of anyone's opinion of the best way to help Beth, it was not Andrea's right to choose. She's not family and she proved herself untrustworthy. In that world you can't have people in your group that say one thing and then do the exact opposite. It's the same reason Shane is so detrimental. If he has your back he's a damn good fighter. But what happens when he decides you are the enemy due to his selfish reason? Rick wouldn't have tried to makeup with Shane if he knew Shane tried to assault Lori at the CDC or pointed the rifle at him in the woods.

Aya

This was a great reaction. I really like this episode. I think you guys made a lot of good points on how there is so much nuance to these characters and this world. I'm forever a Rick girl and I actually like that yall aren't too sold on him being the sole leader, at least it doesn't seem like yall are, because it makes it more fun to watch how you guys will react to the characters as they grow and adapt to this world. I'm interested to see how your perspectives may or may not change. Can't wait for the next three episodes!

Andrew R

Rick is putting his foot down because he sees Shane is infatuated with Lori. In a situation like that you can't give any slack or a guy like Shane will take more than is given. For the same reason Rick is claiming the baby regardless of who's it is (also the mother stated she doesn't want Shane to have anything to do with it). Can you imagine an apocalypse co-parenting situation with a man as unstable as Shane?

Alex Walker

Yea it’s also funny that this episode Shane said Rick wasn’t built to do the things that would keep his family safe. Meanwhile he technically benefited from Rick’s moral judgment.

Bill B.

I never picked up the symbolism of the lone walker representing Shane! Awesome observation! Another thing I never noticed before, when Rick is shooting the walkers who are laying on top of him, after he’s killed the last one you can see the barrel of his pistol through one of the walkers heads! That’s awesome detail!!!

Bill B.

Yes please delete.

Bill B.

I did not like 7&8, but 9 to the end has some of the best episodes. One story arc in particular is just freaking amazing.

Dae

Should at least commit to 9, as it’s one of the best seasons imo.

PastaDon

Wonder if little shane jr. is gonna have Shane's nose 😬 Coming out the womb saying "Let me tell ya summn' Lori, I ain't calling that guy Rick Daddy now" 😁 Thanks for the video guys, was fun watchn'

Ryan

Imagine if Lori just didn't sleep with her husbands bestfriend WEEKS after losing her husband we wouldn't even be in all this mess. Crazy right? She could have just not done that.

Demo

so Shane can make evvveryone “accept reality” but when Rick decides to confront Shane to accept his own reality, suddenly it’s bullying? lmao the truth is in an apocalyptic world, it’s still Rick’s FAMILY. Nothing Shane does or will do changes that fact or changes the dynamic of Rick’s family.

Josh

Thx u

Olive_Sandy

But it would be Ricks baby - it’s his wife and his family. He’s Raising that baby with his wife. Shane needs to back the hell off.

Ryan

You're reaching there a bit...

Cole Troutman

Ngl this is one of my favorite episodes of this show. Prob nostalgia, watched it when I was like 12 with my best friend. Please don't get me wrong, this show was great for a long time. BUT, the first 2 seasons were written by Frank Darabont. Not sure if y'all are familiar with him, he wrote the Shawshank Redemption and the Green Mile, two of the best movies ever made. (Also, when it comes to "the word," you do have to say Grape.)

Cole Troutman

And it really comes down to what the group thinks. They did, in a way, choose Rick as the leader. Pretty much every person was at LEAST, made uncomfortable by Shane's recent actions

Shellbot

Except there was no chance of anyone looking for Randall. His group left him for dead impaled on a fence.

Raphael Aguiar

I'm so anxious for the next 3 episodes. Can't wait for your reaction.

Shellbot

If Shane loved Lori, he would never have put hands on her, would never of risked loosing the only medical person they have for her, would respect her no and boundries, wouldnt take his shitty attitude out on her kid. None of his actions show he loves her. Just that he thinks he is entitled to her, after a fling lasting a few weeks, as a coping mechanism as the world ended. Was Lori cold to Shane and could of handled it better? Yes. Has Shane had every opportunity to talk to Rick and be truthful? Also yes. Lori isnt a saint but the second Shane put hands on her, he forfeited any claim he thinks he has.

Lyn Hurst

I had the impression his firing through the walkers head with his gun in its mouth, acted as a silencer.

Lyn Hurst

He is entitled and possessive.

Richiep

That's a small minded opinion, you're ignoring all nuance. I don't think you're factoring in the environment and its impact on the human experience.

Katie Thomas

No one ever seems to notice that Lori took “morning after pills”, not abortion pills. They don’t work if you’re already pregnant.

Korivex

Also, I don't think Andrea would have the same view if it was her sister Amy instead of Beth.

Julien

"If you know you know" - We all know. We literally all watched the show. That's why we are paying to watch a reaction to it. So who is it that this dumb and spoilery comment is supposed to impress? Who is here that doesn't "know"?

Jennrw13

30 years! Wow, that's amazing!!!

Jennrw13

Thank you! There is a reason we have resources now, like the suicide hotline, and why we will temporarily put someone on suicide watch. To give them time to work through their current emotional state and get the help they need before they make a permanent decision that can't be taken back.

Sharpgirl

The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel fans!!!! That's Joel !!!!!

Josh

Exactly so it’s not a spoiler if they don’t know what it means

Ryan

Ohh we want to talk about factoring the environment and its impact on the human experience when it comes to Lori getting laid, but not when it comes to Shane? He's like that bc he's just a big meanie...not due to the experiences he's had and the way he's treated? lol

Dragon8

It feels so wrong to call suicide a choice when we’re talking about a 16-year-old kid mourning the death of her mother. And what Andrea did was just pure madness ,thank God she didn’t cut too deep. But what if she actually had gone through with it? Would people seriously still say, “Well, that was her choice”? That’s absurd. I honestly don’t get how anyone can defend that logic, because in real life, if it were your sister - a 16-year-old sister, no less would you really just walk around thinking, “Well, it’s her decision”? No way.

Dragon8

It’s pretty clear your love for Shane clouds your judgment. No way you’d defend a guy who tried to kill you twice. And yeah, that same love makes you misread Rick’s character too. When you say stuff like, “Rick, you can’t leave Shane, there’s no way you come back from that,” it feels like you don’t really know Rick - he’d never do that. Shane, though? He totally would. And honestly, if Rick had done it, it would’ve been the best call, cause your best friend trying to kill you twice deserves it. And about Rick’s response being “cold” 🤣come on, that’s just funny. But even though I don’t agree with your take, I still love Shane as a character sm,and really enjoy your reactions

Paul

In the context of a seemingly hopeless zombie apocalypse, I think Andrea was spot on.

Paul

While I agree with people who are "team Rick" and dislike Shane, I wish people were more civil and calmer about it. Let S&P form their own organic opinions even if we might think they're wild and out there, that's the whole fun of a reaction channel. Different perspectives. The next few episodes are going to be nuts!

Katie Thomas

Yea but I think there’s a misconception (not just in this video, in the world at large) about there not being a difference. Don’t get me wrong, I understand there’s an intent behind Lori’s actions that has more psychological and emotional consequences but physically, she’s right - she doesn’t have a choice. She didn’t take abortion pills.

Anta Dasu

I think why Rick feels "entitled" to make the choices might also be because he was the sheriff and Shane was the partner. Rick always made the decisions in the past, and it's good for him to hear Shane's opinion, but let Shane make the decisions, might be wrong simply cause he's ruthless, in (almost) every situation? But then in some situations it's better to be ruthless. The world has changed, how much does your character change because of it? It's not easy!

Anaya Imari

ANDREA CLOCKED LORI’S ASS!!! I can’t stand Lori omg! And not because of the Shane situation but she sucks as a character! Yet she is a decent wife! Carl is everywhere but in her sight! Don’t get upset because Andrea is more for the action! I respect how she wants stability but girl, worry about the bigger survival issues! Both her son and husband raised from the dead like Andrea said! Compared to everybody else, that Wasn’t the case! You got a husband that everybody looks to, a son that’s alive, and a SIDE DUDE?!? Girl please! Cook your meals and wash the clothes but shut up about Andrea and her duties! Not everybody wants to be a house wife!

Gypsysoul

I loathe Andrea. BUT! I 110% have a real world opinion that everyone has the humanly right to commit su!cide. In the same breathe, I believe harshly that people who say "you are selfish" to someone for suicide, is actually the selfish ones. No one has to agree with me, I don't say it for bias confirmation. Just my opinion.

Gypsysoul

This is actually my least favorite episode in the whole entire SERIES. 😅 again, just my opinion. Looking forward 💪

Montae Williams

I believe in a person’s autonomy but Beth’s choice to off herself has to be thought through. And I think that her fam members should be given the opportunity to speak to her about it first. Let’s not forget that her frontal lobe isn’t completely developed - her emotional maturity isn’t there. It’s very dangerous to just allow Beth to play with her life like that. If she changed her mind but had cut too deep no one could save her. Hershel & Patricia wouldn’t have been able to save her bc they were too far away. Granted, there aren’t therapists to help Beth work through her issues but Andrea allowing Beth to make the attempt was irresponsible and an overstep imo.

Montae Williams

Exactly! I don’t understand why they’re saying it’s unfair. Nothing is fair about their situation. At the time, paternity tests weren’t at the local drug store- so what do they want Lori / Rick to do? Coparent with Shane? He’s a hotheaded incorrigible person - ain’t no way. Plus it’s completely possible he’s shooting blanks. He hadn’t gotten anyone pregs before the apocalypse, Andrea bounced on it & I doubt they had a condom - she’s not pregs. Decent chance he’s incapable of getting anyone pregnant

Ryan

The internet forget people have different perspectives. Its mostly mob mentality here.

Bev Morton

I think the two of you have completely misread the situation with Lori and Shane. First, she doesn’t feel any strong feelings for him because she got with him only to feel something to feel anything, to feel some comfort when she thought she lost Rick (after they had been fighting) and then the world fell apart. It had only been about 63 days when Rick found them so they (L&S) didn’t have all that much time as lovers, and that’s all they were in Lori’s mind. But Shane, he fell madly in love with her and Carl. Don’t get me wrong, Shane will always do whatever he needs to to protect those two, but the rest of the crew? He will protect them when it’s a direct result of making sure L&C are safe but he will leave any of them just as quickly. And finding out about the baby just set him off even more. He’s dangerous. I agree Lori handled this completely wrong. She was awful in how she dealt with this, she could have done it much better. For both Rick and Shane. And Shane does have a valid claim where the baby is concerned. He shouldn’t be shut out just on principle and their (R&L) desires. He has a claim on what could be his own child. Lori knows whose it most likely is and Rick came late so everyone thinks and pretty much knows it’s Shane’s kid. Shane is broken.

Kayla

You absolutely do not have to say grape as a replacement for that word. Grape is a TikTok term because it does get flagged on TikTok. But as a victim myself, I’d much rather the word just be said than to say something stupid like grape.

Djp

good friend he was such a good friend he started fucking bros wife WEEKS after the apocalypse

Korivex

Maybe for the future... but when someone, especially a child, is grieving it is better to help them though the grief and help them get to a less emotional mind set... THEN they are in a better situation to make a decision about living or dying when it is something they can think through more clearly. I doubt Andrea would have the same attitude if it was HER sister Amy.

Crispy

it ain't real life bud and I think alot of you in the comments forget that lol