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Here's the first of hopefully many more off-brand Twitter Spaces that are going to be patreon exclusives!! It's exactly what it sounds like - instead of making a twitter space like we used to, we're doing Patreon Spaces.

I mention this in the audio but it'll probably generally be either just Zack or just Me and not a lot of them will be us together just because with the time difference it's already hard enough to just record all the episodes of the podcast - but you never know, the HBIC moves in mysterious ways and so do the snakes....

Let me know what you think!!

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Raphaëlle

Excited about this new format!!!!

Sarah

Love this 💜

Cameron

getting fed like never before today… the lizard and the ologist really get no days off lol 🙏

Candace Tirado

Ohhhhhh excuseeee me??? More food?? Yes 🙏🏼 PLEASE

Madelyn

Thank you for feeding us

Sydney Shepard

So hear for the extra content and these little spaces! You guys are really feeding us happy snakes 🤗

Candace Tirado

Love this topic. I think there’s a thin line, and she is clearly renavigating this part of her life. I love to see her but, i don’t feel entitled to them and i feel like deep down you know which ones are “okay” and which ones aren’t. Drone looking into her hotel room? Gross not okay. Paps largely not okay. But if it’s just them walking the sidewalks or eating outside, they know pics are happening. They can go to private rooms and entrances to hide if they want. The resort pics aren’t cool- i love them, but they are def not okay

thalia

love this format!! dispatches from the snakes in moments of swiftie news is necessary

Drose

I’m trying to think if there are any other celebrities whose Stan’s have this discourse over sharing photos. Maybe it’s just because I’m not as entrenched in other fandoms but I can’t think of other examples of Stan’s infighting over the morality of sharing their faves photos the way it happens over Taylor

Yasmin

Love this! Just a quick tid bit, very good!

Leslie

I'm hardly ever on Twitter anymore and I miss you guys' Spaces so much, so I'm very excited about this! Thank you snakes!

Fraquelow

The Lizard has spoke with this new space! And I enjoyed every second of it! Makes me think of her wild random twitter spaces

Lexi

amazing take madeline! i was JUST explaining to my boyfriend that it just feels icky seeing them when they clearly feel like they have privacy! i know she’s a celebrity but she’s also… idk a human?

Elise Fischer

LOVE THIS! Also you guys have been posting so much and I am so here for it!

Maria

Love the extra content in any format but don't get rid of the discord events please! I love looking at the chat when it's live

A

Would 100% have this over a Discord recording. Well done, Snakes!

Taylor L

love this format! i appreciate you talking about the nuances of the pap pics… i agree with you, i think generally sticking to pics she’s aware are being taken/will be posted is a good line to draw! like you said, she’s famous and pics are gonna be taken, but when she’s obviously having a private moment she should be able to enjoy that

Monika

I was surprised by the morality in this as well. It seems to all stem from her doc and her expressing how she struggles with seeing pictures that trigger some body image issues-and we know the fandom is extremely protective of her. I felt so icky the second I saw them solely because I knew that their bodies would be extremely picked apart online, but also haven't been able to stop looking at them, so even I'm torn with it all.

Bekah Griffin

Agreed, only really see this mindset around pics of kids

Taralynn

This was really fun and I can't wait for more but also I love the discord recordings so I wouldn't want that to be discontinued in order to get more of these spaces.

Angela H

I like the Twitter space! Nice to have a little chat as things happen, without it having to be a big event. As far as the paparazzi photos go… I don’t feel bad for looking at them, since they’re out there already. Do i think they should be taken in the first place? No. Would I ever take the same kind of pictures if I was walking by Nobu and saw Taylor on the balcony? No. But since they’re out there, it’s whatever. It’s like she said on long pond, she knows she can’t control if someone is a mile away with a telescope lens taking pictures, she knows that’s her reality. And they thankfully had probably several days on that trip that were not photographed.

rachel☁️

I liked this episode vibe!! ❤️

rachel☁️

Yeah it makes me sad to see them get papped in private 😢 they are human beings

Leïla

Thanks for the twitter space, loved it! About Tayvis I totally think they're real, I don't really see why either of them would need PR 😅 About the pictures, I really thought that the more I see the better but I did feel uncomfortable see the ones on the beach or at the restaurant... Like to me it's also that on tour I love to see her go to the zoo etc but I do think that she deserves some privacy on vacation 🥲

Bella

you’re feeding us snakes real good 😋 love the spaces format

Dani

i've missed twitter spaces so much! Regarding the pictures, I think the pap walks are inevitable and ok to share, the ones of them in the water and eating lunch...well, we don't need to see that lol but I'll admit I do enjoy seeing the pictures so I get the interest

Lara Visser

Love this more than discord events!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hattie

I like this format more than the discord !! 🫶🏻

Swiftlennial

Not sure what the right answer is on the obviously invasive long lens beach shots. Definitely had a twinge of ick when I saw that EOAS had posted them, but they are behind the pap walk photos and therefore not on the grid — that feels a little better. But I could see EOAS keeping the more invasive photos to stories instead of posting, as a compromise. Not about to get on my high horse about it, though — think it's more of a "let your conscience be your guide" kind of thing. Also, yay for the return of spaces! Off the cuff and activated is my favorite snake mode. 😂

Linde Deckers

I like the discord recordings because I usually can’t attend them because of time zones and other stuff I have going on, so personally I would hate to see them go!

dom

i loved this!! i miss the twitter spaces :’) so this is a great alternative and personally i enjoy it more than the discord recordings

Rebecca Robbins

I prefer this format over the discord events. Thank you Zack & Madeline for serving us a feast of content! Love you guys!

Kalyn

I prefer this to discord events.

Abby

i miss twitter spaces, i like this better 🫶🏽

Juliana McKenna

I prefer this to the discord since it’s all under one platform for easy access

Hannah Landry

I understand the invasive nature of the pictures but I feel like it’s just a given at some point. The pics will come regardless of swifties posting them or not. When Taylor was in hiding in 2016-17 she wasn’t out at Nobu with Joe. I love and respect her privacy but this is the game and we’re all curious and happy to see the pics no matter what.

Carly

Really like this style of recording. I find Discord hard to navigate personally so my preference is all content on the Patreon

erin

Have you guys seen the pap photo of them falling off the beach swing 🤣🤣🤣

Betty O

It kind of baffles me that they went to a public resort like that- if they wanted true privacy they could've rented a house on an island or something. I think it was a quick getaway and they wanted restaurants, drinks etc. Good for them!!!

Lana

"I just wanna be drinking on the beach with you all over me... you know what they all say"

Lana

It's hilarious 😂

funnygirl

love this thank youuu 😊

Mena Wolf

I love this Idea!

cheesefries

the craziest thing i saw about those bahamas pics was with one photo where she and travis are sunning themselves and he has his hand on her butt and someone commented that he’s SAing her and we should be mad

Terry B

Above law is ethics— treat others as we want to be treated. Even when celebs expect photos taking, shouldn’t they have off-hours and physical boundaries? Humans need time off or risk burnout. This isn’t a matter of wealth, occupation or right to access information. This is about health & safety. Remember Amy Winehouse broke down in tears during pursuit by papparazzis? Let’s bring the best out of each other (v_v) I hope we’ll scale back to gentler interactions and leave people well rested before they dive into their next projects.