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Hi divas! Here's your paywalled episode of Phone a Snake. Enjoy :)

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Sarah Bogue

I’m going to need Mason to give some lessons to my husband. He refuses to let me listen to Taylor in the car. He’s secretly becoming a Swiftie though because the universe threw me a bone.. he’s a die hard Chiefs fan always has been. So he tells me the gossip when he hears it now 🤣

Sarah Bogue

Also I definitely think there is no “end game” for Taylor. No one can keep up forever. And that’s ok.

Hugh Gatchell

Zack: The thumbs down that you keep getting is an apple reaction. Its a newer feature that was made for facetime but for some reason crosses over on all apps that use the camera. And it also uses external cameras too which is dumb. When it happened at 9:50 I am pretty sure its because your hand went upside down when you went to scratch your neck lol. There is a full apple support article here on how to use them. I feel like using one once in a while would be kind of a gag. https://support.apple.com/en-us/105117

Chase

I NEED the thumbs down to be incorporated into the merch somehow

Pamela F

Zach coming in hot with a fully fleshed out university research project and professor aesthetic, not even a PAUSE between question and answer. Iconic

CyrusNomadix

Thanks for playing and answering my question! Also, let me know if I can be helpful in making EOAS Live in SLC happen!

Laura

Same my husband always jokes the he like about 13 of her songs… lol so at least he knows some of the lore. But his main complaint with all her music from folklore and up is that “it sounds like she is singing in a church” I have no idea what that means 😂

JJ

Both! I have 1 opinion… I have never cared about the Muses Taylor is using and I’m not defending the haters but with the lyrics analysis in TTPD and thinking consciously about Matty makes me have a physical reaction of disgust. I never have ever had this with anyone not even John Mayer. Matty just has this vibe where you can hear his music but you could never think of him even as Muse I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♂️ BUT I desensitised myself by thinking of a Spider instead of Matty.

Faye

i just need everyone to know that my boyfriend thinks midnights is taylor’s BEST album………… i will leave you to sit with that opinion

Joan Chan

I will confess I also have a harder time with Evermore than Folklore - there are definitely songs I like on it but I don’t find myself being drawn to listen to it nearly as much. Part of it is that I like when Taylor writes about her own experience directly, and there’s purposely less of that on both “sister” albums. But with Folklore there was the Long Pond sessions — I only really got Folklore after hearing her talk about the meaning behind the songs, including connecting them to her own life. And we never got that for Evermore. (I also don’t like Midnights as much for the vaguer songs on that one too).

V

Whenever I hear about Mason it’s like when you read history books and hear about the Pharaoh’s spouse. He truly becomes a legendary figure by association

Joanna

The thumbs down is developing a mind of its own 😂 slowly becoming a third podcast host. Also, on Evermore.. that one took an embarrassingly long time to click for me, I’ve learned with Taylor (and all music really) if I’m not in the right mindset it’s just not gonna happen, so I don’t try to force it but step away, give it time and keep revisiting and almost always it eventually resonates.

LadyQ

Regarding the question on how they became besties...Zac: "Tell me about the first time you saw me?"😏

LadyQ

I'll never forget when I was a little girl, I had heard the word "tacky" but had no idea what it meant ... So when my mum asked me how she looked one time, that's what I told her. My poor mum.

LadyQ

It only just occurred to me with Zac said , "get taste buds" that ear buds are like taste buds for your ears. Now that word feels so weird to me. And Rose buds bloom much like music. I need my second cup of coffee.

violetta

Funny enough I have a similar thing but with Travis. We need to touch grass

M Mc

Lol at the intro to this. 😆 Honestly I would watch a food podcast by you two. Cheeseboardologist with a glass of wine, anybody? 👀

JJ

I’d give you my coping mechanism. Think of an animal that’s not super great nor bad in your opinion and when you think of the muse train yourself to think of the animal 🥲 it helps with Matty (spider)

Kylee

I have crafted the perfect question for next phone a snake. See you there

Heather

Justice for our Irish comrade! Folklore is in my top 3 and Evermore is bottom 2. So I'm with you snake, I get you.

Abbs H

I totally second what yall said about TTPD being interesting because it's mainly "about" the Matty interlude. A drag I saw a lot from detractors was "she's so immature, I would never admit anything like that, I'd rather take those things to the grave" (lowkey same), but it's the fact that she's admitting all these "ugly feelings" that makes the album so incredibly interesting to me because like you said, it's so relatable. It's fucking embarrassing to be feeling teenage petulance at an adult age over someone who couldn't give a fuck about you, but sometimes we simply feel that way no matter how wrong it might be! Emotions don't cease being felt just because they're humiliating. Like she said on loml ~ "are they second hand embarrassed that I can't get out of bed cause something counterfeit's dead."

Tiffany T

This was the best phone a snake yet… preach!

sarah mcallister

Love this episode! You guys are the best! 👎👎👎

Caroline Storey

As an I Can See You stan and Speak Now girlie...Mason has great taste!!!

Fatima

I also preferred folklore to evermore for the longest time but then one winter when I was going through a terrible breakup it finally clicked for me ! And now it’s my stan album 😂 so there’s that

Stroop(wafel)

By talking in messages do you mean "fanmail" or were yall on after there was real messaging. I miss tumblr fanmail...

Hayley

Thanks for the thoughts on Travis. I also think he is a rebound she is having fun with. They are fine as a couple. But so many peoples’ crazy obsession with them getting married and having babies immediately is extremely off putting for me. 😅

Jana De Maré

Zack casually mentioning Elisabeth Taylor made me cackle