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Today's Kiki Lounge is a diverse and wonderful place: celebrity beauty standards, pet cloning, the Jonas Brothers flop summit, who is or isn't a baklava of pop culture history, the Bozeman airport, and this FROOT looks familiar. Enjoy!

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Kate!!!

YASSSSSS I AM SO HAPPY THIS IS UPLOADED AT 6AM EST GOD LOVES MEEEEEE YASSSSSS

arshia

hoping for a “bandaids” mention

Nicola

Hahahahah I nominated Jojo you go jojo!!!

Nicola

Jojo siwa loves you

vvc

So happy to watch this while I get ready for work 😭😭😭

Valtteri Iivarinen

Having an upper jaw surgery tomorrow so this is perfect for distracting me from my dark thoughts!! Ty snakes!

Bailey Andrea

jojo siwa / bing crosby / nat king cole parallel is ending my life

Lexi

i know they’re gonna cook you guys for the plastic surgery comments but WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT! it’s not human anymore, they’re spending money that no normal person has to set an even MORE unreal beauty standard for us plebeians!!!!!

S

Love Ariana but Mariah’s pen game is unmatched. It took her 15 minutes to write AIWFCIW which is crazy.

Lucy

In honour of Australia tour could you listen to some quintessential Australian pop girls? The Veronicas, Nikki Webster and Jessica Mauboy

Bree

I'll stand with you Madeline. I've never been the biggest fan of Mariah so i'm ready for a new queen of xmas

Satu

I don't like happy, glittery christmas music. I want melancholy sad songs, like Phoebe Bridgers' christmas covers! One of the most beloved christmas songs here in Finland is about a girl who goes to feed a sparrow on christmas morning and the sparrow reveals to the girl that he is actually the girl's little brother who died. That's the christmas spriti I want! 😂

Erin S

Okay, so I’m an Only Murders watcher/fan. This past season, Selena’s voice was much more normal, so I think her lupus is currently under control. I think it’s when she’s having a flare up that her voice gets weird because of the inflammation and the joint stiffness… she talks like her jaw is wired shut.

sofia

the part about beauty standards and everybody having the same face is so spot on! if you want to get work done, get work done, idgaf, but DO NOT lie about it! it pmo

Erin

Zach your perspective on aging is the best. Im an elder millennial and I really get sick of my algo giving me content aimed at convincing me that everyone gets Botox the same way that everyone brushes their teeth.

Landen B

We neeeeedddd a tour vlog next time, PLEASE🙏🏼 I’m dying at this recap 🤣

Bella

Thank you both for the Only Murders slander AND speaking truth on plastic surgery epidemic 👏

Bella

I found it really good …

Kyla

brittany broski mentioned broski nation rise up!!!!

Christina McManus

Kelly Clarkson should be the true queen of Christmas

Alejandro

US 2026 TOUR MENTIONEDDDDD. COME TO OHIO PLEASE ILL GIVE YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT PLEASE

Lexi

Speak

Dijon🌺

Zach and Madeline please don’t ever stop doing the Charli impersonations they KILL MEEEEEE

laura

Not to be fake deep, but the beauty standards discussion was really lovely. My sister passed away in young adulthood, and I think all the time about what I would give to have seen her grow older.. wondering what she would’ve looked like at 40, etc. And, like.. how can you really be grateful and present if you are always fighting against time and your body??

laura

Also: I had lunch like 5 feet away from Kim K earlier this year and her skin looks HORRIBLE in real life. I’m not saying that to be mean, but literally everything we see of a lot of celebrities is photoshopped— even paparazzi photos. Celebrities are projecting beauty standards that even they can’t attain.

elly slaughter

"flow so tight, beat so sick- chris brown should get his ass kicked." -Jump Smokers, 2009 AD

Liz

Thank youuuuu so much for this beauty standards discussion. We have an entire generation of women who have sliced and diced their faces beyond recognition. It goes so far beyond tiny tweaks, we are talking brand new faces. And what really scares me is that this means we also have an entire generation of today’s kids who have no idea what a normal unaltered 30 or 40 or 50 year old face looks like!!

Ashley Tobin

Cloning is just making an identical twin. Do you know identical twins in real life? Do they have identical personalities? Absolutely not. They just have the same DNA so if their blood is left at a crime scene you can’t tell which one of them did the crime. It’s. Just. An. Identical. Twin. Doesn’t mean they’ll have even slightly similar personalities - even identical twins that are born together and grow up together under the same ROOF aren’t identical in personality. So clones born in different decades to different parents are even less similar.

Ellen Kay

Omg Madeline doing Kris Jenner laugh had me crying 😂😂😂 oh man that was so good. I should snip that part so I can watch it whenever I’m having a bad day 🥹

Louise

As CMAT said, “I've peeled through the forums and there's no cure for old sis”

Qweefeeweefee

Did you just call Demi lovato a labubu

Aaron

Bryson Tiller is a real person with multiple DIAMOND plaques… he’s kinda flopped recently but is generally a successful rnb artist randomly. Hate that he’s working with Chris though

Anna

Fighting for my LIFE at work today so I’m so glad to have this

Erin Victoria

Zach....watch Jurassic Park! Just for the Jeff Goldblum of it all!!!

Jessica Smith

Real watcher of Only Murders here! It's so silly and I love it.

Lisa M

Yes Bettie Davis eyes 😭

liz

He likes a Hoity-Toity Girl

Alexandria Roswick

People do not talk about her songwriting skills enough !

Ally ❤️

Thanks for all the work that is involved to pull off the voting!!! Appreciate you Snakes! 🐍

Jocelyn

Being a Jonas Brothers fan in 2025 is an interesting thing, that's for sure...I just spent $45 on a nosebleed seat for one of their shows recently and had an amazing time. But I do think they know they're riding the nostalgia wave, especially with this Christmas movie (which will be so cringe but I will be sat..) JB album deep dive perhaps??😂

Morgan Pettit

Yeah, echoing the Jurassic Park comment to watch!

Ally ❤️

Madeline: on Las Culturistas podcast, Jen Lawrence said she and Emma Stone are producing a Miss Piggy movie! Thought of you first, lady!

sj

Madeline I love the shirt

liz

Nick Jonas is not a baklava of history

Pink Lamborghini

lol this also crossed my mind when they said she always has beef with the girls matty dates

Abby

Thank you so much for the ageing/plastic surgery discussion! I don't know if I'm just noticing it more but I feel like while the 00s were the most evil time for fat shaming, age shaming is now The Thing. God forbid you have a wrinkle or a grey hair! I'm all for looking your best and taking care of yourself but we don't all need to be frozen at age 20. It's weird

Josieee

Making more noise for buy me presents by Sabrina Carpenter as a great new modern Christmas song

Sarah

i mean if we’re talking about face not moving…

Jeanne

Perfect time for a reaction to a very Laufey Christmas 👀

Gabriela Cameron

the labubification of celebrities needs to stop 🤣🤣

Sarah

especially because she has a r&r songwritter all of fame award! a queen! 🐑

Ally ❤️

Being older… the discussion about yellowed teeth and aging… well, when you get there, you’ll be there 🤷‍♀️ and you’ll make your decisions. It’s a personal choice, I think.

CJ

But like seriously WHY is Chris Brown in the top 20 😑

Jojobear

Christina you are so correct

ducky

I saw a video of Demi and literally didn't recognize her at all

Jojobear

I have two things: Firstly, I can't believe we're in a time where people are making videos about Taylor Swift being evil & problematic when we have Chris Brown & Michael Jackson just hanging out in the charts, no drama. Secondly, we shouldn't be scared of aging. Aging is a privilege.

Roh

I believe “Thriller” re-entered the top 10 as a combo of Halloween (that being the specific song) + the MJ biopic trailer came out a few days ago!

Clara

well matty is in love with george and defends charli every chance he gets so they should just be in a throuple

Victoria weisheit

need Madeline to vlog a drunk night out in livingston.. especially with Zach there 😂

basicallyenya

no bc i NEED sabrina’s tour in asia 😭 universal music korea is doing a man’s best friend cafe event in seoul rn, hoping and praying it’s in a way market research thing to see the potential of bringing sabrina here 🥹🥹

Ciera-Dylan

The way Madeline & I had the same reaction to crack brown being top 20💀💀 like I hate to wish death on ppl but im not above it…

chelsea 🫶

“demi lovato is a labubu” is an all time quote

Heather

Loving the cloning discourse after I just watched the new Frankenstein last night

Elaine

Oh, thank you lord. Some ‘Only Murders in the Building’ Truthers, and it’s you two. Perfect!

1quarter of a meatball

My daughter and I always play the airport game. We have to guess our PORTLAND OR gate. No shower, socks with sandals and bring their snack from home in a mason jar 🫙

Connor Howard

i love how zach and madeline bring up tour every other kiki lounge its so funny to me

hannah

uh oh. i can feel randomista entering into my vocabulary imminently.

Ang ⋆。°✩

what is this im hearing about sneras tour 2026 US tour dates ?????

Ang ⋆。°✩

im a spoiled LA snake so i already knowww i'll be seeing you guys again yayyy

Leslie

Haha I was thinking the same thing

Leslie

There are some all time one liners in this episode. "Nick Jonas is a normie of the highest degree" just sent me to the stratosphere

Leslie

Good luck!

Leslie

Just had a long convo with my mom about this. She started going gray in her late 30s and now that I'm that age I'm getting my first grays too. My mom has aged gracefully and naturally and has really inspired me to do the same. I recently moved to a place where a lot of women my age are getting work done and I just can't with that.

Leslie

Same

Leslie

And the Laura Dern!

Töns

My german dad also bought an expensive cowboy hat on our holiday to the US in 2010 😄 I think the romanticization of the cowboy is a universal dad thing 😄

Carolin

Kylie Minogue!

Robyn

I realised how much I LOVE you guys when I sit thru Only Murders slander and am ok with it…

Kat Doyle

This is so random, but one of the few things that stuck with me from Desperate Housewives was a scene when one of the wives (Lynette) was telling her husband about how when she looks at his face she sees the life they’ve lived together in the lines. I decided to embrace my crow’s feet because they’re proof that I’ve spent a lot of time smiling and laughing. I’m okay with that!

Kat Doyle

YOU’VE NEVER SEEN JURASSIC PARK, ZACH?!?!?!?! Please rectify this.

Eva Warwick

Not sure about other places but the cowboy aesthetic is definitely being romanticized in Italy. I was in a small town during the summer and all of the local girls were wearing cowboy boots out to the bars

HaleyJean ASMR

u do not understand how happy i get to see a new kiki lounge 🙌 also Madeline i am obsessed with this look. the eyeshadow, the shirt. yes!

Sarah Hollars

I hate when these end. I could listen to you two gossip for hours and still want more.

Sarah Hollars

Germany too, they are obsessed with cowboys. They come to dude ranches in the U.S. to get their fix.

Bi

What bothers me about celebrity plastic surgery is that it’s counter productive. If you can’t move your face you can’t act well. Body language is half of acting.

Bi

Also scientist have been messing around with DNA splicing to the point where I fear people are gonna start trying to do eugenics without understanding what they are doing is eugenics.

Cynthia

This was a GREAT talk; really different and fun. Thank you for everything --all your energy.

Savanna

did y’all see sonder filed for bankruptcy lol

David Peel

View from the top YAAASSS

taliuchis

the VIEW FROM THE TOP I AM SEEING THE HARVEST !!!!! Shoutouts to Madeline for ALWAYS understanding my exact niche childhood comforts when I was hating everything at my dad's house. always love to see a true diva get her stars it is such an UNDERRATED (cheesy and bad but delicious) romcom <3

lavendersnake

The dog may not turn vicious but tbh it’s probably not going to live that long unless they’ve found a way to lengthen those telomeres

E ✨🩷

I’m soooo sick of the celebrities all looking the same with the face lifts, veneers, filler etc. They deny any work and then it makes you feel bad about yourself because you don’t look like that. And they rewrite the beauty standards so that all these things are supposed to be normal. They want women to have these teeny tiny bodies so we can’t physically fight or be strong and they want you to get a shit ton of Botox so you can’t frown and express your emotions. They want you to be a doll!! People will say it’s not that deep let people do what they want but I can’t stand it 😭

CandaceBryantArt

I was one of the people who wrote in "Bette Davis Eyes," and it was all worth it for your discussion of it & Madeline's impression. When I just think about that clip of her singing in the car, I lose it!

only spams

guys you should review looks from @youbelonginthis on IG!! I think Zach would like a lot of the fashion that she photoshops onto Taylor, its very high fashion but also compliments Taylor’s style a lot!

Luke bridge

Come to Pittsburgh for the next tour pls!!!!!!!!!!

Luke bridge

That would actually be amazing

Emily Howard

Madeline I am not saying shut up fat bitch I’m speak louder bc that “it’s tiiiiiiime” has grated my ears for years

Katie Hart

Petition to make Underneath the Tree by Kelly Clarkston the unofficial Christmas song!!

Katie

I’ve lived in Nashville my whole life if yall come back message me and seriously I’ll give yall all the recommendations

Jackie Lehman 💅🏼

Cloning decent people needs they also need healthy childhoods to turn out ok.

Carlos Galindo

The lorde impression Madeline does at the end of the episode has been KILLING ME

Maddy

Yes! The View from the Top was one of my favourite childhood movies to escape to!

Camara Kidd

we kinda need tswift styled on eoas..

Momo

"..........we need to keep an eye on that dog" is so funny lmfao

Sydney

the moms and grandmas LOVE the Jonas Brothers, I’ve gone to multiple shows with my mom bc she LOVES them….. and I hate to say it, they are really good performers

Kay Wolfy

I'm so sorry to bring up this Randomista but this YouTube channel Make it Snazzy made a video called Why Taylor and Travis will BREAK UP before the wedding. It is just some other type of derangement. But also entirely entertaining. I think you need to see it if only for the ijbol factor. I'm dying.

Mallory

Can y’all come to VA or NC pls

Gennie Brown

damn that keeps coming up on my feed now i have to watch it 😂

divatron

Crazy to talk about the uncanny yet…. She’s right there! I don’t know that girl! Who is that girl!

divatron

I would like to know more

Blake Nicholls

I was not sentient writing this assss I meant to say he cloned his dog…. Lol

chappell roan

NOT MADELINE PREDICTING THE MUPPETS SPECIAL?