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For a while I've been trying to put my finger on what exactly is so fucking bizarre about the fandom now, and what it is that has everyone acting like unhinged animals across all social media. Like what is the CORE ISSUE in the fandom today that, that leads everyone to behave the way that they do. There are obviously a lot of problems, perhaps chief of all that she is simply too fucking famous and just keeps getting more famous - I used to think part of it was simply that people don't think of Taylor as an actual human person, but as a product. I still think that's a facet of the issue.

But the most notable thing I see, and see over and over and over again, is this idea that Taylor is speaking to us in code. The code can be legit anything. Today I saw that some girl on Tik Tok believes that Taylor is signaling to us "in code" via the tour setlist and how it's set up (??????????) that she is secretly single and Joe is no longer in the picture. Because Taylor doesn't "mention" Joe on stage, I guess? And choosing to sing Illicit Affairs means something more than just Taylor wanted to? It's bizarro. Plus there's all the theories that she's telling us she's gay or is still in love with Karlie Kloss or whatever. Everything Taylor does is code. Everything she says means something else. Every move she makes is picked apart and analyzed. Bored people on Tik Tok will make something out of anything, yes, but there's something SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TAYLOR that people are PARTICULARLY unhinged about. 

I think I've finally figured it out. 

A lot of the people who do this "Taylor is giving us secret messages!!!" thing, be they Gaylors or otherwise, are newer fans. Like, from Reputation forward. It's hard for me or any other longtime fan to really understand all the ways in which that experience of stanning Taylor might be fundamentally different than my own. But I've really sat and thought about it and realized that everything, literally every single thing, about being a fan of Taylor is different than it was from debut and even through 1989. What happened in 2016 completely changed the foundations of Taylor's career and I think of her personality and the way she views fame and the world and all of it. From debut toward the middle of 1989, she was nearly accessible. Even when we thought she was as famous as she could be, she interacted with us. She did interviews. She presented herself in the way she wanted to be seen, and she was a lot more candid than she ever is today. Being a stan of her in the early days toward the middle of her career is a unique experience, ESPECIALLY when compared to what's going on today. Taylor was distinctly human and real and relatable to me. Even if I feel I saw enough behind the curtain in the early days that I have somewhat of a lock on who she is, even I have to admit she's more distant now than she has ever been. 

A lot of these newer fans see older fans talking about certain things that would happen in the olden days - getting followed by Taylor, secret messages in her album booklets to find out who songs were about, the way she would write songs so that anyone could figure out who she was singing about, how her life was sort of given to us as an open diary - even just the parts she wanted us to see. It was like being a part of her life, in some way. She would reinforce this, even, calling us her "friends" in debut and Fearless era, and sending us gifts and shit during 1989. Like to a fan who was there, none of this probably seems particularly radical. But to someone who wasn't, and has only known Taylor from Reputation, Lover, or Folklore, or even from MIDNIGHTS, that shit is crazy. It does something weird to their psyche. Like the video of that girl weeping on a sidewalk after her eras tour show because "Taylor didn't see her outfit." ??? Why would she have seen your outfit? What makes you think Taylor knows you exist? Is it because she used to know specific fans did exist, back when that was something that used to happen? 

I think newer fans are desperately trying to posture, first of all, as being a good enough "swiftie" that they can read secret messages that aren't really there. And second of all, I think newer fans really want to be able to be close to her in the way that older fans were before 2016. And it's really, really, really hard to be close to her like that anymore as a fan. Personally, I think this is a good thing. She is way too famous and people are way too insane - but I definitely could see how newer fans might feel, for lack of a better term, LEFT OUT. It feels like older fans got to experience Taylor in a way they never will. This is true, and that really sucks. 

To me, new fans' psychosis is a combination of the easter eggs bullshit + Taylor's walls being up higher than ever + Folklore's mysterious "is this about her or is it made up" shit + almost no one getting to have a face to face conversation with her anymore. I remember when fans would meet Taylor at sessions, they'd post their entire conversations with her and Taylor would come across as sooo down to earth and kind and just like REAL!!!!! New fans are not experiencing these interactions anymore, and it makes Taylor seem like she's not a real person. And plus, they want those interactions badly. I sort of feel badly because if I were sixteen, I'd be so fucking jealous of everything older fans got to experience with her back then. 

But like the behavior being exhibited because of this FOMO if you will is just like, to me, DERAANGGGEEDDDD!!! Every single fucking day there's some new "theory." I don't mind theories about when SNTV is going to drop or if there's going to be a new record sometime soon, like, about her CAREER, I don't mind. 

About her personal fucking life???????????? And the total lack of care about what it would feel like if Taylor saw you saying her and Joe are broken up because she *checks notes* isn't talking to us enough?? I think Taylor is afraid of saying more because the more she says, the more it's dissected and judged. I think she's in the worst position she's ever been in, in terms of her fame. Which is why I think she couldn't stop herself from saying The Lucky One is about how horrible it is to be famous, full stop. No "I'm so blessed to be here." No "I'm so lucky to be able to do this." She said, being famous is fucking horrible, period. I hadn't realized this before, because maybe I thought 2016 was as bad as it could ever get - 

But guys...I think this is the bad place. It's over. Pack it up!! 

-Madeline 

Comments

malk

Agreed! I think before the secret messages/hints/easter eggs were a fun lil side quest to enjoying her music as a whole but didn’t impede the experience. but now every video on tiktok or analysis of Taylor’s work comes down to this hunt for secret codes and messages and her life has become a commodity in even stranger ways than it was before. She’s egged it on I’m sure but the way new fans behave on Tiktok scares me lmao. The level of performative fandom is gross!!!

sam

the people need a noon roast the re-up. things are getting out of hand

Robert O'Mahony

I think there’s definitely an element of oneupmanship - to some of these people being a fan of Taylor is a “game” they can “win”. They read into every little thing as you said and come up with these deranged theories on the off-chance that somehow the stars will align and they’ll end up being right and then they can pat themselves on the back and say they were right and thereby gain social credit/capital in the fandom. I remember around Midnights release there was a TikToker that was INSISTING she was coming out with the release of Midnights and when it didn’t happen they just moved the goalposts and were like “oh something must have disrupted her plans”… like… have some humility… eat just a little crow for once in your life……

jaz n.

And every time I see something unhinged like that, I tense up and empathize like “how does it feel to know people cannot just take you for your word/actions?” IMO there is a reason celebrities are “overpaid”; no human being should have to have this much SAID and SEEN about them. Fuck it, let her make a billion, she’ll need it for whatever therapy bills are coming every time she moves or doesn’t.

Ksenia

There is a direct link with Taylor Swift increasing her Easter Egg marketing in the reputation era and the rise of conspiracies in the swiftie fandom. Taylor did not consciously think and deliberately intend, 'I will start a new marketing strategy of sending clues to take advantage of our post-truth Trump era where everything is fakenews except our own personal beliefs and interpretations of reality' but that's what her ramping up her Easter Egg marketing coincided with.

Christian Roberts

it’s this weird ideology that being a swiftie means being the first person to know everything that taylor does in her career and life. it’s like everyone used to rally together to enjoy taylor swift…and now everyone is rallying together to be the number 1 swiftie…everyone is losing track of the fact that we were all just here to listen to music and support our blonde bombshell.

em

the theories have honestly got completely out of control. there are fans who genuinely believe that everything she says/does, she really means the exact opposite. too many people are choosing to ignore the words she’s actually saying to look for secret hidden messages. particularly surrounding her relationship, she probably feels so uncomfortable that people call her a pathological liar and live in the delusion that wearing a certain colour or choosing certain songs for the setlist indicate things about her personal life.

emeraldgreaves

i was going to send in a dial-a-snake about this exact topic LMAO. taylor pioneered the parasocial relationship, but she pulled back after 2016 and the fandom did not, so now we have a bunch of people grasping at straws trying to see some kind of connection that just doesn’t exist anymore. i’m curious to see what kind of impact her comparative radio silence will have on her marketing & general interaction with fandom after the rerecords are over, because she did not do a whole lot of promo for midnights

em

what happened to just enjoying the content & supporting taylor?? i genuinely think some people don’t listen to her music, but just like to treat her like a puzzle to be solved… because why are people so invested in this niceboy ed thing when his music is not good??

Melina

It’s so weird to me to see new fans have this sense of entitlement to her life. I enjoyed the times we had when she was more connected to us and I’ll always be grateful for those but I’ve never felt entitled to know every single thing about her personal life. You’ve got a point about maybe new fans trying to feel connected to her but I mean 2016 was something that messed with her psyche and is forever scarred

Nicole Cada

i love the good place reference madeline 😭

shannymac

I wonder…if she could go back and somehow change the trajectory of how things have gone for her…what would she do differently? Not make the relationship to fans so parasocial, not have “trained” us to look for hidden messages…? I sometimes wonder if she’d want to go back and just be a normal person, not a pop star, but I think on some level it’s in her veins too much to not do this (the fact that she just keeps writing/creating, but also using “Applause” from Gaga for her pre-Eras playlist was an interesting choice- she likes that we’re clapping for her but then plays “The Lucky One” because fame is horrible)… I think the “feeling left out” point definitely is part of it, and the fact that the newer fans are younger - when you’re a teenager, you’re dramatic as fuck and not getting noticed by Taylor must actually feel like the end of the world (especially if you were hyping up your costume on the internet ahead of time). As someone who has been around longer and is *cough* older, it’s bizarre to witness.

Joey

I’m not an OG swiftie but I have been a fan for a while (2012 a bit after Red release) and I’ve definitely seen how much it has changed. I think what upsets me/puts me off the most, is the fact that these new fans don’t even treat her like a real person. Like they think everything is a clue to something else. The Niceboy Ed shit pisses me off so much. There is literal proof that he is Joe’s longtime friend and there’s a 99.99999999% chance that Taylor used his song in her tiktok just to support a friend releasing a song. Everything to these new fans is something to decode. I seriously saw some fans saying that “Karma” is TS11 because when she was spotted leaving Jack’s studio last February, she was wearing ORANGE SOCKS and supposedly orange was the color scheme of this fake album that they made up. Idk it just all makes me so annoyed

Sar Sar

I think “too big to hang out” is her most telling confessional lyric re:fame- I’ve been thinking about it in terms of Niceboy Ed over the last week or so. He’s one of Joe’s friends, so she uses his song in a TikTok as a favor. Now he’s trying to promote his new music and swifties are using his website to spawn new theories- Taylor’s dropping all 4 TVs at once, Taylor is quitting solo music to start a band with Joe, Jack and Aaron, Taylor’s still in love with Karlie Kloss. And yeah this guy is getting exposure, but how many fans will he be left with after Swifties realize he’s not Taylor Swift? Few, if any. And he’ll be tied to her forever. Because she used his song in a TikTok once. She’s literally too big to hang out!

Erin Houghton

I think about this a lot! Like for longtime fans, “secret messages” were random capitalized letters in the album booklet that spelled out a message to give more context to a song. It wasn’t super cryptic either, it was in your face (like the message for “Enchanted” literally being “Adam” lmao). She hasn’t done that since 1989, so newer fans hear “secret messages” and they think every lyric is ACTUALLY about Karlie “The Krook Who Was Kaught” Kloss when in reality… Taylor literally says “you know I love a London boy” like I’m sorry but that’s pretty explicitly about Joe! And in general longtime fans have been a fan of Taylor for her storytelling songwriting, not because she writes deep metaphors. She is at her best when she’s recounting a story in her song and makes you feel like YOUR ex’s sister still has your scarf. I also think it ties in with the chronically online thing… like even on tumblr when we were all chronically online, it wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now (I kinda think losing 2 years to COVID and shutdowns played a part in that). Like at least on tumblr, when we fangirled over Taylor’s songs it was usually rooted in “I can relate to this song because it reminds me of my crush” or “I’m really feeling this song right now because I’m going through a breakup”… I even remember a Swift secret (LMAO remember those) during the 1989 era where someone said he related “I Know Places” to his experience of being queer and having to hide his partner from his conservative family, and I remember thinking how powerful of a songwriter she is that people can interpret her music in so many ways and relate it to their lives, even if it wasn’t what the original intent of the song was. Many of the newer fans are interpreting songs however they want (which is their right), but what’s NOT their right is to say “well I interpret this song this way which means her whole life is a lie and she’s not who she says she is!” and I really think part of that is they just stay online all day and don’t have any personal experiences to draw from. Maybe that’s mean but like it really is a noticeable difference from fans on tumblr 10 years ago vs fans on tik tok nowadays

Brittany

As probably one of the older swifties, I’ve grown up alongside Taylor and her music. Taylor’s level of access to her fans was different but social media and the internet was also different! I also used to post whatever chaotic thought or photo I had to upload but I got older and am not really interested in posting that much anymore. It happens. I’m not even famous and I don’t want everyone knowing all my business so I get why taylor doesn’t because everything about her is instantly a headline.

GW

Taylor swift is not the fucking zodiac killer

bloop

It’s something I contemplate a lot too tbh. it’s interesting to consider that from the start of her career, taylor has always been hyper aware of how to present herself and adapt to the opportunities presented to her and maximise the marketing opportunities to maintain a core intense fanbase at the heart of all her success that’s TRULY never been done before. But, considering the legends that came before her who have truly cemented themselves, there’s almost a trade off where in order to be that legendary, there’s a requirement for overexposure at some point and a level of mythologising that’s necessary to keep people interested in you as a celebrity as well as your art. Without 2016, or Kanye, or her diaristic writing style, she maybe wouldn’t have been in the position she’s in rn post-folkmore. Like there’s a reason outside the inane Gaylor shit why people love to link Taylor to evelyn hugo, because they love the mythology of that and the speculation and the connecting the dots of everything. She’s mastered that in creating an entire universe for herself. Even folklore nailed that window of opportunity and still left the door open for speculation about herself in the william bowery stuff before she clarified, or what was fictional and what wasn’t. Even Midnights was predicated on the intrigue about going back into nights of her life people were desperate to hear about. Most people’s wishes about subject matter before the album came out were related to events like the masters, her breakups, the grammys etc rather than expecting other non-linear storytelling. It does feel like some fans’ expectations of her art lies in the ability for them to scrounge pap photos from years ago and say she was holding X thing or wearing Y on that day to link it to specific songs, when that isn’t the point of her art. It’s an odd push and pull where Taylor still feeds into it sometimes (midnights promo, atw 10, lavender haze/vigilante shit) but remains deeply stoic in her boundaries with her private life. Idk where we go from here tbh.

Walt Mossberg

Please don’t lump all newer fans into this category. Some of us have gone back and studied the history and discography, watched the earlier tours and interviews and understand why things changed. Plus, anyone with her fame and success has haters- some of them dangerous- so she literally can’t walk through the crowd like she did during the speak now tour. It’d be too dangerous. I’m happy for the music and the stage chatter.

Mr. Watermelon

I'm sure she's totally aware how some new fans behave and that's the main reason why she's behind this big wall. I guess right now she's too big as a celebrity to do stuff she did before 2016 because that would be too much for some people. And that also probably stops her from interviews because when she would try to clarify something people would analyze that and make another stupid theories about her life or new music. And those theories on tiktok made me uninstall this stupid af app because I was tired form hearing for millionth time that "Karma the lost album is TS11 or double release with reputation TV" or "Speak Now TV is being released tomorrow and will have 30 songs" or "Taylor secretly is married to Karlie and Joe is paid to be her 'boyfriend'". Those people NEED to find a job or other activities because certainly they have too much time to "think".

Emily Kern

HARD agree. i was lucky enough to meet Taylor twice: once during Speak Now and once in Nashville when she announced Me! two very DIFFERENT points in her career. obviously, the situation in Nashville was on no way a formal meet & greet the way my experience during the Speak Now era was, but it was incredibly eye opening to the massive changes the “fandom” had undergone. i found myself rolling my eyes at a lot of the weird shit i was hearing people say in the crowd in Nashville at that mural. it’s incredibly cringey to watch the new fans try to assimilate and engage Taylor in ways she hasn’t engaged with us since like 2015 lol

hannah

yeah this really resonates. the fact that people really believe she would be using her gigantic tour as a way to…. reveal???? a breakup??? that would likely be a really devastating situation for her personally makes LITERALLY ZERO sense. she would not be signaling to fans about that. like that goes wayyyyy beyond putting little notes in her albums about boys and friends and shit. i honestly do feel bad bc what taylor did in her early career to connect with fans was really groundbreaking and special and then everyone just totally ran with it and it’s spiraled out of control. i would be so freaked out as a person if everything i did and said was analyzed to that degree now. it’s actually so weird. like she can’t even just wear a color or use a word. i don’t even know how to reckon with her level of fame as a regular person so i can’t imagine at all how she must feel. i don’t blame her for never wanting to tell us personal stuff anymore - or really much of anything!

Nitya Kadambi

This is so spot on!! I remember watching her Ellen interview during Fearless promo and being SHOOK that she talked so openly about Joe Jonas. I thought it was so cool and I had never seen a celebrity talk that candidly about their personal life before in a way that was also totally relatable to me (I’m a year younger than Taylor). It actually was great marketing because I bought the CD after watching that interview and I’ve been a fan ever since! I think the 1989 era taught her some lessons…looking back on interviews you can tell she was kind of unhappy, paranoid, insecure etc and also so burnt out. I think having to do all the “extra” stuff (media interviews, always being active on social media for fans) took a toll on both her creativity and mental health. In recent interviews she has talked about how she is happier when she’s creating things and I think that means not being as open so she can focus on her craft more. I’m actually glad at this point she is not as open with us because she is as famous as ever and I think it would be too overwhelming. I get that it probably sucks for newer fans who want to experience “the drama” of what being a Taylor fan used to be. Maybe I’m just old and bitter but I actually don’t feel that badly for them! In earlier years Taylor’s openness with everyone made her a target for the media, stupid people who didn’t GET her music etc and it was hard having to constantly defend why I loved her music so much. Now everyone in the media (even politicians) are kissing her ass every day and it’s socially acceptable and even encouraged to be a huge Taylor fan. I think the fandom at this point creates infighting and drama out of thin air because there’s nobody else to fight with at this point. Aside from the occasional comment from the Damon Albarn’s of the world, the general public is in favor of Taylor and while I think that’s great, younger/newer Stan’s on the internet I think are just bored! Along these lines, I think a lot of Gaylor behavior is so that they can distinguish themselves and say only THEY know the real Taylor and that they’re the ones who actually get her music. As if knowing someone’s sexuality is the only way to truly “know” them. The reality is, none of us knows Taylor and I think having that boundary makes for a healthier fan relationship. I still love when she gets personal with us but it is now no longer necessary for me to love and appreciate her music.

Walt Mossberg

One more thing: she’s definitely moving into film, after the Short Film for A10W. Do casual new fans know she signed a deal with Disney to direct a full length movie she’s already written? Did they watch the fascinating interview at the Toronto Film Festival or the Directors on Directors episode she did? I’m not saying she’ll never do an album or a tour again, and I especially expect all the remaining recordings. But it fascinates me that the Eras tour is a career retrospective rather than being limited to the records that never got their own tours. That’s not secret code. It’s right there.

paige benn

you are SOOOO correct. in every way possible. like i see people complain about her not doing interviews and then turn around and make theories about her life and it’s like GET A JOB STAY AWAY FROM HERRRR. if people werent so fucking weird she wouldnt have to hibernate

tyler

it truly makes me want to take a melon ball scooper and slowly remove my eyes from their sockets to think ab taylor regretting or resenting her past self for prioritizing the fans and authentic interactions… as a result of it now getting so out of control… like it’s so interesting that she said fame is horrible on a stage she used to dream ab playing on and in a stadium full of an unfathomable amount of people… it’s really sending me on a spiral she is not allowed to feel any sort of pain that is mother

tyler

sometimes these posts end up feeling like dbq’s… i feel compelled by the power of christ to respond and use sources etc etc

mia

the worst part of it all is how they get so angry when you call them out on how fucking insane they are acting. ‘let people have fun!!!’ like get a life jbol

Meridith

I was scrolling on TikTok the other day and there was a video from a Gaylor tearfully talking about how the visuals for Anti Hero on the Eras Tour where she is upset and clenching her fists while next to the fake city on the big screen are her in anguish over being closeted and the whole song is ‘an apology to queer community’. Like …. I don’t even know where to begin with explaining the absolute insanity of someone genuinely believing that Taylor Swift is trying to communicate that to her fans via hidden messaging in her tour visuals. I think you’re spot on that with this new influx of younger, newer, more online fans this shit has genuinely got out of control to the point where I honestly can’t even see her feeling comfortable meeting fans in any organised way any more, which makes me really sad. I think that her relationship with her fans used to be such a mutually fulfilling and above all wholesome thing, and now there’s just no way to get back to that.

courtney

I don't think I'd fully taken in the weight of her saying "it's about how horrible being famous is" before The Lucky One ... that is insane to me that she'd already expressed in 2012 some of her thoughts on fame and now just thinking about how impossibly famous she is now? After everything, including her completely backing away out of the spotlight after snakegate, but also after her being totally convinced that she'd not be able to grasp onto relevance after 30 because of the way the GP treats female pop stars, isn't it insane that she's up there on the Eras tour stage probably more famous than she has ever been? It must be so strange for her to simultaneously struggle with how "fame is horrible", the way she is objectified/commodified and her every action dissected, but also the part of her that drove her to write mirrorball and how she wants to perpetually hold our attention and affection. I don't feel I'm articulately laying out these ideas but man I do think her level of celebrity and fame must be a form of hell a lot of the time

lucy

i agree with this sm. i feel like the most egregious example of the swiftie doublespeak epidemic was when she was on jimmy kimmel and people thought she was making hand signals to let people know she’s a victim of domestic violence. like i’m sorry….WHAT ??? something i think about a lot is these people that are obsessed with theories, (even just in terms of things like karma or woodvale or whatever the fuck) at some point must get so pissed off that taylor is like “breadcrumbing” them or w/e. like it becomes more about wanting taylor to validate that she really is sending them all of these codes in a weird parasocial way rather than wanting the theory itself to be true. and it’s the same for how people expect her to be as accessible as she was pre-reputation and get upset when she simply cannot because of her level of fame. it’s not only unrealistic but unsafe for her to do so nowadays. i can’t imagine the level of insanity if she was doing meet and greets this tour. i fear the girlies would be getting stomped by cowboy boots and stabbed with mirrorball shards to get backstage. and the crazy questions people would ask her like I actually can’t think about it. it feels weird to think that things like the lover pop-up shops happened even just a few years ago…like that simply could not happen today without 8000 people showing up and selling out the shop within 2 hours. i just wish that stanning taylor hadn’t become such a bloodsport, to think that it got crazier than the 1989 era is insane 😭

Ciara

My friend asked me the other day why do I like Taylor so much..Food for thought indeed...To paraphrase Professor Zack & Professor Madeline.... Taylor is the 'chronicler of human emotion'... and THIS is the true lure and underpinning element of her longevity and relevancy. I didn't put it so eloquently and replied "it's the lyrics, always has been always will be with Taylor..." ... so when you see people at the Eras tour not knowing the words to Fearless or saying The Lucky One is a deep cut it's unfathomable at it's core. Taylor Swift = lyrics ... strip it all back, no frills or lace that's what left and if you get it you get it and if you don't you don't..so GET OUT OF HERE with your nonsense "how to get a cute tiktok at eras" etc. 😳 Crickets from tiktokers re her introduction to TLO and her admittance to how it's horrible being famous and this is one she has really come to love since re recordings.. This is the most revealing, explicit look behind the curtain of her mindset, self awareness and self-interpretation of her renaissance in popculture which we have received in an extensive amount of time, especially from the tour.  Yet it wasn't prescribed in code/Easter egg form..  It came from the horse's mouth and the tik tokers don't have the range to disect it cause lets face it; simplicity and directness is too complex for their capacities 😑

Alexa Blackman

I am a relatively newer fan so I feel like I have a different perspective but I also am not delusional!!! Of course I wish I still had a chance of going to a secret session or meet and greet and wish I was a fan during those times but there’s nothing I can do about it now and frankly some of the theories and predictions are stupid!! I feel like she is more famous than ever and it’s making her so inaccessible because she can’t post an instagram story without every word and emoji being dissected. It also makes me feel like I’ll never get to meet her which does suck. I was literally backstage with paramore and still couldn’t meet her!!!! It makes me wonder how the trajectory of her career is going because right now it feels like she’s getting more and more famous.

Leslie

I was at the show where she played The Lucky One. It's always been my favorite song on Red (sorry Zack) so I was thrilled that she played it but I was floored by her intro, just saying "This is a song about how awful being famous is." She was so blunt. In general she really seemed to be going through it that night, all of her speeches had a bittersweet tone to them. I think that being her third night in that fucking gargantuan stadium was really getting her in her feelings -- like wow, all these people are showing up for me, that's all I've ever wanted, but also wow this is terrifying. The Lucky One is such a fascinating song to me in retrospect, she wrote that SO early in her career when she had no idea how big she would actually be one day. It's ridiculous to feel possessive and protective over the most famous woman in the world, a woman I don't know and never will, but I do feel that way. Covid gave her convenient plausible deniability for not meeting fans on this tour but honestly I don't think she would have regardless and I'm not sure she ever will again. There's no pit on this tour for a reason too. People don't know how to fucking act. I just don't know where she goes from here and I don't know how this fandom becomes normal again. I'm just glad I have a couple of safe, comfy corners of the fandom like this one to talk to like-minded people without having to expose myself to the normies.

Marco Rubboli

I became a fan during the 1989 era so I understand exactly what you mean. The thing is, I like Taylor talks but the main thing I'm interested in is her music, so I never suffered from her being distant. She's putting out album after album, and her job is being a musician... isn't that enough?

lavendersnake

While her being “secretly single” ended up being true, we are now also seeing theories being spun in the opposite direction trying to deny that they broke up despite the news coming from reputable sources. Why are people insisting she would confirm if it’s true, too? Privacy isn’t just “avoiding rumors,” it’s also her not being forced to comment on her breakups and letting her PR team take care of it!

Melissa

I don’t have anything to add but just thought this was thoughtful analysis that makes a lot of sense! l

Erika Fern 🌿

All great points!! I also think I’m 2016 she finally conceded that literally anything could be said about her whether or not it is true and when she tries to address it even in a fairly benign way (1989 AOTY speech) it can always get worse and is ultimately out of control — esp in the age of social media! I also think she used to Easter egg in the lyrics and once the music came out swifties when hunting for them go (as she intended) but with Lover the Easter egging ahead of time + this new “competition to be the best swiftie” (all in the hope of getting to meet her because that’s how older fans got noticed) sent ppl SPIRALING. Like the number theories I see that 4+4-3x12 = the date of her next release is unhinged!! She’s prob just letting the music speak for itself and the girls that get it, get it…