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I'm not someone who buys gossip hook line and sinker, especially not when there's already SO MUCH speculation about what happened between Taylor and Joe and how Matty came into play and etc etc. It just strikes me as interesting that the Daily Mail (noted trash organization we know) posts an article about Joe being totally blindsided and left "reeling" by news of her new relationship with Matty, and then right after that, this tea also comes out, which would follow along the same lines of Joe being flabbergasted and taken by surprise by the breakup. The "she Fedexed her ring back" stuff is like, um, okay, lmfao, but I don't know, there could be something to this...

Plus, remember the pics of him that came out right after the news broke? HE LOOKED BAD...LMFAO....but it does make me wonder, if she just ditched his ass and was being cold and distant and thinking of breaking up, why are all her friends mass unfollowing him? Like, if that were the case, there'd be no bad blood, right? Much to think about...

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Lauren Eileen ✨🥀

We all know Taylor is only petty when someone wrongs her. I feel like if this is all true, Joe must’ve done something to piss her off. He couldn’t have been TOTALLY blindsided, unless he thought he could get away with anything in their relationship… I buy that he cheated, honestly, based on the lyrics in her music and that Emma Laird girl being weird online a month ago.

Ciara

The plot thickens Every. Single. Goddamn. Day.

lyrium

well the ring clearly wasnt paper

Camden Acadia

The tea is so hot and constant idek what’s going on anymore but I’m definitely amused

Taylor L

never did i think we would see this level of mess in the year 2023 … yet here we are

Alex Chrisco

This gets messier every day and I am ✨ here for it ✨

Brian Yell

We won’t really know what happened until TS11 blesses our ears, but I do have a feeling she broke off the relationship and not him

Em Ev

Now that’s interestinfinteresting….

VK

I can't believe Matty really swept her off her feet but it's beginning to seem like that.. She didn't wanna commit to Joe when Matty was turning on the charm.. The cracks in the relationship were uncovering.. Ever since I heard hoax I knew there's something about the relationship with Joe that makes her sad

Clara

No but why is the math mathing with his post- breakup photos.. although the radio silence feels a little sus to me, words are literally her thing. Unless all of her really did change like midnight rain and she knew she needed him in the rearview mirror disappearing now, asap 🌧

strawbhunny

I can believe she’s been ruminating on breaking up with Joe for a while before the actual break up occurred. Saw her perfect opportunity and jumped from the ship. fedexing her ring tho…… that sounds like fan fiction BUT it wouldn’t surprise me if true lmao

RiskBat

If this is true I assume they unfollowed for the same reason she went radio silent and Joseph fucked up big time. Maybe he just didn't realize Taylor knew about it. With her money and resources, no matter how careful he was, I'm sure she could have uncovered whatever he wanted to keep under wraps. Or maybe someone close to him or who was involved with him reached out to her.

Lydia Atsma

And to think. Most likely we will never know. But I’ll eat up any speculation. Lol

Mr. Watermelon

It's just getting more messy form now on and I'm wondering what more will happen before speak now tv because it seems that some sort of big storm is coming to us.

Robert O'Mahony

Sometimes you just don’t know the answer til someone’s on their knees and asks you… 🎤

Gracie Day

Honestly, I wonder if Joe’s lack of ‘leading man’ success was starting to get to her. Like when ‘Conversations with Friends’ came out, she was probably like… this is when the world will fall in love with Joe! However; cricket…

Eva Cornell

I couldn't give a reason champagne problems

Melissa Ann

Everyday we’re one step closer to the truth… I can definitely believe the idea that they were engaged and that SOMETHING happened but she’s left too many hints that she’s pissed for me to believe that she just dipped and ran off with Matty. I think there’s something to this but I also think we’re missing some critical information still

Iman

Do you think we’ll ever really know what happened via her future music? Or we’ll just have pieces like with Calcium

Melina

Taking this with a grain of salt but, IF she did do that I wonder what prompted her to just up and leave instead of just breaking off the engagement I guess her “non confrontational” side got the best of her

sylvie

Good lord. So like she ghosted her fiancé? Unless he was cheating...yikes

Bre Mercadefe

This is truly one of the great mysteries of this generation.

Starbuck1234!

they did buy the house in late 2022 so it makes sense that they got engaged. AND there was a pr announcement that "they never were married or engaged". Well. I don't know. I don't believe any PR announcement. I still think this is a bunch of BS. Why would Taylor and all her friends unfollow him like that unless something happened other than Matty Healy. It seems like something happened and now he's trying to get his PR team for some damage control. But, he's playing with a master. Dont know what he was thinking with that.

Nitya Kadambi

There have been so many conflicting stories about this. We go from joe cheating/leaking the news first about the breakup to Taylor ghosting and fed-exing a ring lol. I think the truth is probably somewhere in between. I don’t think they were ever engaged but I can kind of see Taylor blind sighting him a bit…she did get very emotional during champagne problems in the shows before we got the breakup news. I thought it was just because of the crowds and her getting emotional over touring again, but maybe there’s layers lol.

Cameron

I don’t believe it was as dramatic as she FedExed her ring back, but I think it was probably a bit out of the blue… TO HIM… I gave you so many signs… you didn’t even see the signs!!!

Angela H

The red flags are all over in her music, from the beginning of their relationship. She never really felt secure in their relationship. I think songs like Coney Island and tolerate it are more based on her own fears and feelings than she let on. It seemed like as the relationship went on she became more afraid of the long term commitment of marriage and what it could potentially mean for a relationship. She mentioned repeatedly that watching Marriage Story was upsetting to her, that whole movie is about a couple growing apart and the wife losing her sense of self and her personal passions and professional goals in the relationship. I think that’s a huge fear of Taylor’s.

Ksenia

Taylor's friends would mass unfollow Joe anyway. Joe was never going to keep her friends. I just don't see why his boring turkey ass who clearly hates drama, would suddenly do something so dramatic as cheating or whatever. We'll definitely find out because Taylor will write about it.

Starbuck1234!

where does it say she Fedex'd her ring back?/ this is tea.

Ciara

This is a mystery with potential to superceed boatgate

Lance

This just set off my bullshit detector way too much. I don't think Taylor would be that cold for no reason. It's too mean for her.

Kendall

Maybe but why get engaged after she wrote an album that said "ew marriage gross" multiple times? Did she not let the guy listen to any demos?

KT_p

Wow! It makes me wonder if perhaps things got ugly right after the break up and maybe that caused the mass unfollow? It could’ve deteriorated pretty quickly. And maybe FedEx-ing the ring is a stretch, but maybe not! I mean, how else is she supposed to get it back to him?

Eden McFadden

Maybe champagne problems is much more personal than we thought… 😬

lauren

I am so shonked honestly

Katie O

Ok that's it, I need to get into the discord lol. Halp

Cardigan

A 6 year relationship doesn't break over night, there's usually many moments over months that lead to a break up, and Taylor has made it clear that she deeply loves Joe. She wouldn't break up with him for no reason, and considering all her friends including Lena, who was Joe's director, and Ryan unfollowed him he probably did something wrong. Unless he's dumb and he couldn't see the signs of the relationship ending. If his Team really gave an excusluive to the Daily Mail that's really messed up considering he claims he cares about privacy.

BonXID

I think she just got tired of always hiding. Especially when she was getting ready to go on tour. Maybe in the beginning she liked the privacy, and maybe she even thought he'd get used to being more public. But she's an extrovert 100% and if he couldn't come around, she had to leave.

reese !!

the first thing i thought of when i saw this was when taylor said something about how proposing isn’t that hard before playing betty

Michaela Wagner

What I don’t buy from this is that he only told his publicist all this like one week ago??? If true he’s an idiot and has been ignoring the publicist. I don’t buy that the publicist wouldn’t have asked, they’re also representing the God that gave us Chicago?? I think what’s more likely is that he was ignoring the signs that the relationship was ending and now… EXILE!!

Ashley C

Maybe he doesn't even know what he did. Maybe it's something so obvious or so important to her that she finally got fed up with it and cut it off. As for mass unfollowing, it might not be that deep. It could just be as simple as her saying "Yeah joe and I broke up" and then later on they go "well that's confirmed. no reason to follow that dude anymore"

Luke Alexander

Omg this is Major but also confusing when thinking about Lavender Haze since she confirmed it was about Joe

June

I used to switch out these Kens, I'd just ghost / Rip the band-aid off and skip town like an asshole outlaw

mj

Why is it when i wake up in the morning some sorta major thing has dropped. (international swifties has it hard)

Ally ❤️

I am thinking that is not the whole story. She found out something and is not above ghosting… She’s the antihero, right?!

Ty

I was thinking “why would they get engaged around the time when midnights came out when the opening track of midnights is about how she doesn’t want that?” And then I was like WAIT what it he literally didn’t listen? Maybe he just really didn’t support her or care and that includes not paying attention to the music or not showing up to tour

Ashley C

Maybe she was down to marry him but during the rerecording sessions she had nostalgia for her wild days of mess and it kinda popped her love bubble. Or perhaps she was doing speak now tv and realized some negative pattern in hers and Joe's relationship that wasn't previously apparent? OR it could be as simple as she outgrew him and saw that she's super successful and he hasn't done anything ambitious since they started dating? The speculation hurts

Aloha Record Sargent

What do we think about Taylor's surprise songs tonight? Should've Said No followed by Better Man??? 👀

Ally ❤️

Twitter was boring with some post about it being common knowledge in North London how his friends and he were using her as a meal ticket (3 points to Zack!) and that they were helping him cheat when she was away. It was actually really sad to think of Blondie being used in this way and if so, he’s trash… and deserves the ghosting and then some!!!

Ally ❤️

Also: Knew she was a robber… First time that he saw her… Literally NOTHING good starts in a getaway car. She put the money in the bag and stole the keys. She didn’t lie. #Byeeeeeee

Sabrina

Men love to act clueless lmfao like what do you MEAN you don’t know what happened, read the fucking signs