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Sadly the first time that I heard this song was very, very muted on some girl's twitter space as her car keys jingled in the background, because as we all know, this song is still on SUPER limited release and was only available for purchase to ticket-holders at yesterday's show at MetLife. A lot of the lyrics and production were really hard to hear even with headphones on, but there I FUCKING sat, struggling to comprehend a single word of it. All that said - there was one lyric that literally LEAPED out, full volume surround sound, as though Taylor entered my living room and shouted at me : I WOULDN'T MARRY ME EITHER. 

There are a lot of ways to interpret this song. I've seen some people say they think it's about how Taylor fell out of love with him. I've seen some people say they think it's about how Joe stopped being the anchor and lifeline that she came to rely on so much during Rep and during quarantine, and instead became distant. 

My reading on the song is that it's probably a culmination of a great many things, some small and some big, but when I listen to it, I feel that it's about Taylor fighting for something that Joe gave up on a long time ago. I think that Taylor spent a great deal of time frantically trying to hold onto the relationship, all the while it seemed like Joe barely noticed how hard she was trying to make it work. 

The most interesting thing about this song is the big fat question of WHEN, exactly, this song was written. Taylor referred to it as a "vault" song, suggesting it was written during Midnights sessions - if it truly is a vault song written before October 2022, then that would mean it was intentionally held off the record to ward off any questions of a break-up. Which to me is the most insane timeline. Because Taylor was up there talking about Lavender Haze and her great relationship of six years on Tik Tok. One could argue the song isn't NECESSARILY a breakup song, at least not in the truest post-mortem sense of the word, and it could definitely have been written by her during a tumultuous period of the relationship, or a "break." Or, Taylor was putting on a brave face for promotional purposes. 

Personally, I think this song is NOT a vault track, and was written recently. Like, in the last couple of months. Getting into the nitty gritty of where Taylor was when, where Joe was when, what Taylor said when, etc etc is not something I care to get into because a lot of the moves she makes are pure PR and not worth dissecting - but Joe was FULLY at her Grammy's afterparty kicking it with her friends. And he was barely photographed, so that was not a PR thing. He simply was there. I don't believe they were broken up at that point, but I do think that this song could've been written AROUND that time. For some reason, and this is like my crackpot dumb tinhat theory, but I feel like this song was written like, directly after the Grammy's, within a period of weeks, even. Mostly because of the line where she says "I'm the best thing at this party," which is first of all true, and second of all, the sheer absence of Joe in any pictures is perhaps a suggestion of how little he wanted to be there, one of the final knives in the gut of their relationship. 

But what's truly strange is that Bejeweled reads as being about Joe, with all this new information. Bejeweled, again, doesn't have BREAKUP written all over it, but it does suggest unhappiness in a relationship. It feels BONKERS to release a song like that about him while they're literally still fucking together, but none of this really adds up 100 percent. I can't bother with the headache of getting out my fucking magnifying glass and analyzing how this all fell apart, and when, etc etc, so fuck it LMFAOO. Bejeweled is about Joe I don't know...fuck it...

There's some truly compelling little nuggets in this songs, most interestingly of all are the parallels between the lyrics here and the lyrics in some of her love songs about Mr. Turkey. 

I'm getting tired even for a phoenix, always rising from the ashes, mending all her gashes, you might just have delt the final blow // my broken drum, you have beaten my heart - I remember when Hoax first came out, a lot of people said that it was about Joe, and I thought that was whackadoodle time, because, again, they were still together, and apparently HAPPILY SO!! AT THAT TIME!!! HELLLOO INVISIBLE STRING, THE LAKES, ETC ETC....so I was like lmfaoooo yea right...HOWEVER...certain things have come to LIGHT....and now she has made DIRECT REFERENCE to Joe being the one who has broken her heart beyond what she can normally soldier through. Which is the exact same fucking sentiment she expressed in Hoax. Hoax is about a betrayal so deep it's like a death in the family. My question is, if Hoax is even KINDA about Joseph....why was the girlie trying so fucking hard to salvage this relationship??? She put so much into it, she put so much into HIM, and trusted him so badly because he was there for her in a time when so many people were leaving her in the quicksand of her cancellation, that I do almost believe that she could have allowed a betrayal to take place, and then gone right back into it. Dark, dark stuff...

Remember looking at this room, we loved it cause of the light, now I just sit in the dark and wonder if it's time // now I only see daylight - this one makes me want to kill myself. 

stop, you're losing me // help me hold onto you // I wake up screaming from dreaming, one day I'll watch as you're leaving, and life will lose all its meaning for the last time - this is SOOO fucked up, and also, the crux of the fucking song. In The Archer, she's deeply anxiety riddled, and I previously always read that as a result of past hurts from other people. I never once considered that her almost constant anxiety about losing Joe was because of something he actively was doing or had done to her. You're Losing Me sounds like it's about Joe DOING SOMETHING, not just passively allowing the relationship to fizzle out. She says STOP. Also, the "for the last time" in Anti-Hero is interesting if we consider the possibility that Joe and Taylor were on and off and we had no idea about that. 

Fighting in only your army, front lines, don't you ignore me // literally the entirety of the Great War - before all this, the Great War was a hieroglyphic to me, or at least was just about some almighty row they might have had. Now I'm sat here thinking to myself they literalllyyyy broke up and Taylor was fighting on the front lines and Joe was like, hooking up with somebody else. LMFAO.....well let's not linger on that!! 

Now onto the most painful of them all...

I wouldn't marry me either, a pathological people pleaser // I'd marry you with paper rings // I take this magnetic force of a man to be my lover // I think he knows he better lock it down or I won't stick around // Church bells ring, carry me home, rice on the ground, looks like snow // I want to show you how forever feels // I vowed I would always be yours because we survived the great war. 

Or ALTERNATIVELY...

I wouldn't marry me either // all they keep asking me is if I'm gonna be your bride // storm coming, good husband, bad omen, dragged my feet right down the aisle // all that you ever wanted from me was nothing. 

The layers to be picked apart...honestly Labyrinth feels like a hieroglyphic now, too. Sweet Nothing feels like a post-mortem musing on a relationship that was once good and now no longer is. Hoax is slowly becoming less cryptic and a lot more obvious to decode. I can't even get into this. And this has already gone on for far too long...so I leave you with that...just something to suck on....xoxo   

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shannymac

Did she keep the relationship going because she wanted the “serial dater” reputation to die down? Or something went wrong after rep and she had written all of those love songs about him in Lover and rep and didn’t want to go back on those? Because there’s definitely a tone shift between rep/Lover and folklore when it comes to Joe songs. Very interesting…

Nitya Kadambi

“She would have made such a lovely bride what a shame she’s fucked in the head” // “I wouldn’t marry me either a pathological people pleaser” is a parallel that kills me. Also taylor talking about her pain being an imposition was so hard to hear. It really just seemed like he didn’t try to understand her, but she felt safe with him so fought hard to save the relationship.

Mr. Watermelon

A LOT OF REACHING. But this song gives me just feeling like there was something that to lead to some bigger fight and Mr. Turkey jus gave up but didn't said it's over and Taylor tried to fix it everyway possible but because he wasn't responding she also finally gave up. I think she wrote this song just before the breakup when she was still carrying about him and wanted to fix it and this line "stop, you're losing me" is like "hey do something or it's gonna be really the end". Or it was written right after breakup. I don't think she still thinks about it since recently she said famous lines that "she's the happiest she ever could've been". So it probably happen after Grammys. And this maybe a pure delusion but maybe those engagement rumors where true. She hoped this would change their situation but then something happen and she just let it go. Idk it's a lot of reaching and probably missinterpretation but that's what this song is about.

Aliyah

James what was that

Drose

A parallel I noticed is she talks about barbed wire in relation to joe in invisible string and she also talks about that in tolerate it

Clash Fan

This song does feel like a Rosetta Stone to the hieroglyphics of Midnight's.

taylor

"how can you say that you love someone you can't tell is dying / you know there's many different ways that you can kill the one you love. the slowest way is never loving them enough" this is doing me in at the moment

s(l)am (dunk)

just read the lyrics aloud like a slam poem, trying to decode further 🧐🧐

Beca Stockman

Ok but yes the clarity gained in the Great War and Hoax is significant. The “maybe it was her” line always kinda baffled me because I thought cheating was out of the question, but the many gashes make it seem like it’s definitely a possibility. And then double and pass to Hoax. And now I’m kinda rethinking the Betty-James-August love triangle and Taylor’s choice of saying they got back together at the end…seems less fictional than presented. Idk that’s just my tin hat this song has broken me.

lavendersnake

“I’m the best think at this party” gets me because every public appearance they made, they were photographed with him basically dragging her out of the establishment

em

she was kinda right to only put this on a physical cd that fans would work hard to own/find because this is not for the masses to interpret. swiftologists only.

Ruby J

100% Projecting my experience, but I think what happened was that they had this uneven emotional hierarchy in the relationship because of how things started. I think it's fair to say at the beginning of the relationship Taylor was more emotionally immature than Joe and at one point he helped her grow and have more of an adult relationship and it was good for her. But it seems like it became something he had over her and she agreed that it was her that was the problem (afterglow (Hey It's all me in my head I'm the one who burned us down)/ peace (Your integrity makes me seem small)/ great war (And maybe it's the past that's talkin' Screamin' from the crypt Tellin' me to punish you for things you never did) / Anti-hero. And because of that, I feel like her emotions were always too much and if she was upset she was overreacting or being toxic or whatever. So if she was upset in the relationship or started raising things she was unhappy about, it was like this big emotional labor for joe to be around her emotions (I know my pain is such an imposition ) and he didn't listen to her or try to understand where she was coming from because surely she was just being crazy. So I feel like she was gaslit and he didn't see anything wrong (You say, "I don't understand" and I say, "I know you don't"). I feel like because she's always had big emotions he started to distance himself from her and not make her feel special anymore and was just TOLERATING her and while at one point maybe he did talk with her lovingly saying that he wanted to get married and have kids someday etc, he stopped saying it and she kept wanting it and broke her heart by continuing to show her that he wasn't head over heels in love with her anymore when she still loved him so much. Idk if he outright cheated, but I feel like I could see him having an emotional thing or a crush with someone else as an escape from taylor and her feelings and Taylor being super perspective picked up on it and knew (was she worth it ? NOOO) So the chorus really sounds to me like her in sooo much pain because she's hurting so bad and it hurts so much for the person who loves her and who's supposed to be her partner to not even get that she's upset (you don't really read into my melancholia)/ (How can you say that you love someone you can't tell is dyin'?) or try to do anything about. So I really imagine the "stop you're losing me" and the bridge ("Do something, babe, say something" (Say something) "Lose something, babe, risk something" (You're losing me) "Choose something, babe, I got nothing" (I got nothing) "To believe, unless you're choosing me") as like her breaking down, sobbing, pleading him to just take her seriously and try to comfort her. (My face was gray, but you wouldn't admit that we were sick) The it didn't click for the dumbass until she finally ended it ("You don't know what you got until it's gone").

Ruby J

right? we've had this happen to us? oh yeah, me neither..🫣

cheesefries

the fact these feelings have been being felt since 2020! SINCE FOLKLORE ERA and that the anxiety goes back to LOVER when she was begging him to marry her!!!!

sam

after the breakup i honestly think hoax is about joe cheating or some type of betrayal, there are soooo many parallels in that song to other references she makes to him and that is devastating in hindsight

Vanessa Vieites

A friend of mine said Labyrinth might just be about her falling back in love with Joe (or trying to!) after one of their breaks, and that’s starting to make sense to me (“I thought the plane was going down; how’d you turn it right around”)

Megan Delynn

2 things- Taylor has said she's a hopeless romantic, so I think because of what Joe was to her during the Rep Era, she probably gave in to him being obsessively secretive & looked past the red flags, and yes, I believe she was gaslighting or "hoovering' herself for a long time. 2nd-and let me be clear- I HAVE NO SOURCE FOR THIS INFO & HEARD IT IN A RANDOM PODCAST, BUT IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE! In the podcast, a source from Joe's show said that late last year, they were at a table read, & while on a break someone asked if he was ok, & he said that Taylor just "abrubtly' left with "no reason" Gave him back a ring, & basically said they needed a break but Joe was so worried about her. Apparently, they got together to talk & he agreed to go to the Grammys & that was basically the official end. If its true I believe Joe was trying to control the optics, knowing that Taylor writes about her past relationships. I believe she either proposed or brought up the idea. And with how disinterested Joe has seemed about Tay, most recently at the Grammys, I doubt he didn't know what was happening & certainly wasn't worried about her. Remember, this is all speculation as I don't have a source! This song screams to me someone desperately doing anything to not lose a relationship that is only amazing in her head, and then at some point she clearly sees it for what it is & the damage it's doing to her. As a lifelong (reformed) People Pleaser, I can say that yes, you will go way too far to make something work, beyond reason. I mean look at what she did for all the fucking entitled whiners with SOTB! No matter how happy she's making herself seem, rerecording that song must have been excruciatingly painful, plus all the 'Open Letter' assholes who've decided to gatekeep Taylor's dating life OR ELSE! I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor goes back into seclusion after this years Grammys. I would!

shannymac

It’s nuts how this one song is making us all re-think a bunch of other songs from her past 3 - 3!!! - albums. So much to unpack here.

Starbuck1234!

Sounds like she, being the loyal and romantic queen she is, was the only one working and sacrificing for the relationship. He refused to put her & their relationship first but wouldn’t end it. Then asked “I don’t understand”? She just wanted him to love her. I’m so sad. I tho k the song is one of the best in her catalog & one of the saddest.

Vanessa Vieites

“I hope I never lose you” to “you’re losing me” pipeline 😩

lyrium

this fucks me up fr but havent we all been there

Michaela Wagner

You gotta leave before you get left 😭

Lindsay

Joe is confirmed a nothingburger by TAYLOR HERSELF: “do something babe say something”

Maroon Bitch

Risking myself getting too parasocial - someone on Reddit shared a post about Taylor throwing up on the street in Belfast (where she was living while the turkey was filming and when lots of Midnights was written) like around Sept 2021. 12 months later this event could be the one mentioned in Hits Different. So - I think they were probably a bit on and off for a while. I agree this song is very recent and not a true vault track

Emily

I’m super annoyed at Taylor’s inconceivably gross capitalistic production here, the CD and yet another diss to streaming. If they get Hits Different acoustic this weekend I will need to draw blood from someone. But You’re Losing Me is so good that I guuuueeessssss I will tell myself to just shut the fuck up??

Maroon Bitch

Re: the release of a vault track that probably actually isn’t… I think is perhaps a way of drawing a line under the Joe era. I think she’s done and this is the last song we will get about him. TS11 will be a fresh start with no turkey… but probably quite a bit it Matty (🤮)

Elena Gerhardy

The bridge of this song really took my breath away, I was still reeling from ‘I wouldn’t marry me either’ and then she comes in with the ‘DO something babe, SAY something’. The emotion in her voice gagged me a bit.

Blueasice24

I honestly think part of the reason Taylor cling to the relationship for so long is because it’s her longest and she’s struggling with embarrassment that yet *another* relationship of hers has ended. She’s always been made fun of for her inability to keep a man on such a public level. That’s got to do some damage to your psyche

Elena Gerhardy

You’re Losing Me joins a small group of TS songs (including tolerate it) that can *only* be about a cis woman in a heterosexual relationship. Like, if ivy is queer coded, You’re Losing Me is the opposite of that. I feel like heterosexual men do not really get this song, and that’s the f-ing point.

Nina

“Lose something babe, risk something/chose something” reallly got me. My theory is that they were on and off and he might have been seeing someone else during the off time. And Taylor’s saying he needs to lose something to keep something (their relationship) like break it off with the other person and risk the fallout, rather than remaining passive and waiting for life to happen to him

Ally ❤️

Relistening to Coney Island, exile, Renegade, and The Alcott today and Jesus it’s all so fucking sad and apparent.

Maroon Bitch

I’m just re listening to hoax now that we have the Rosetta Stone and I will say… it makes fucking sense as a song about loving someone who cheated on her (so some other betrayal)

Julia Smith

My new theory is songs like Question, Hoax, Maroon, Bejeweled, Labyrinth have been so perplexing because she is not giving us all the info because she did not want to admit publicly that things were not good with Joe

Katie Fritz

Zach and Madeline: I really appreciate your humor and your thoughtfulness! Just a general note :) I’m not a music or pop culture critic, but as a consumer I thought Losing Me was very effective. I’m not in a relationship and haven’t been for some time and it had me crying in my kitchen on a Friday night. It communicates complex feelings - the way she sings “we used to love this room because of the light” with tenderness in the very beginning, the way it builds in anger and resentment, the way it reveals big dissonance within their dynamic. The repetition of a single word like “stop” seemed to carry a lot of weight and many different feelings each time she sang it. I couldn’t even begin to speculate the inner workings of Taylor, Joe or their relationship dynamics. We’ve got Taylor’s experience as a reference point, so much of what she communicates is specific to her life but when it comes down to purely relational contexts her insights are also very universal. The raw reality of relationships is that they provoke anxiety on a fundamental level because you’re making yourself vulnerable the moment you commit to someone and they commit to you. If you spend enough time with someone you will likely feel stagnant, resentful and/or lonely in moments or for stretches of time. You can feel those things even if it’s a safe and secure relationship which is also what makes it harder to leave, harder to assess “are we truly done here?” Losing Me, from my vantage point, does detail how Taylor felt issues within their relationship and how joe was either unwilling or unable to acknowledge and address them - how they were unable to address them together. After a while, depending, that can for sure feel plenty gas-lighty and really deteriorate the fabric of a relationship. It’s heartbreaking to have invested that much time into a relationship, to have shared so much of yourself and your heart with someone and to have it decline in such a way. And: it happens all the time. Bless them both. We learn so much about ourselves in relationship, for better or worse. If you need me, I’ll be crying in my kitchen. :)

Lizzy

When she says "how long could we be a sad song" I think she's giving a major clue that lots of the sad songs she wrote, especially in folklevermore/midnights time period, were really about him or them. She's asking how long could that last before they realized something couldn't be brought back to life any longer

Leslie

The Bejeweled point is interesting. The prominent theory prior to the Toe breakup was that it was about Calvin, which never made sense to me because, for all of his faults, we cannot claim that Calvin didn't let her bejeweled. They attended awards shows together, he posted her all over his socials, he praised her when she won awards. The song just doesn't fit him. I can't remember where those little voice notes were where Taylor explained certain songs after Midnights came out, but I remember her saying that Bejeweled was a metaphor for her being nervous about returning to pop after doing the whole cottagecore indie girl thing during the pandemic. Which at the time I took at face value, but now I'm thinking it was a partial truth but also a clever way to disguise the true subject of the song.

maltyyy

I really think that tolerate it was inspired by him starting to show disinterest in some small things which may not be a big problem in their rship back then but taylor was so discerning and sensitive enough to grasp those details and feelings then write a song with imagination and creativity. Sadly I have this intuition that she probably put up with him for nearly 2 yrs in which he became more and more indifferent while she was trying to save the rship until she was too tired to fight for them anymore.

Gianna

Joe Alwyn the heirloom turkey fumbled the biggest bag in pop culture history. He’s never gonna have a career. He couldn’t even kick start it with his sugar mommy’s money. He will forever be known as the man who lost Taylor Swift.

LH

God it’s really tough to be with someone who values stoicism and acting “measured” more than connecting. I really feel for anyone who has to beg their partner to “see” them. It sounds like maybe he was too stubborn //staring out the window like I’m not your favorite town//all the time.

Emily

I had a relationship that felt like some of these lines and I wonder if Joe is one of those people blessed with the absence of mental illness. My ex had a really hard time understanding me when I was anxious or depressed and just wishing I could enjoy my life and he didn’t directly diminish or invalidate my feelings but he couldn’t relate and instead of trying to relate he stopped there. In one way, he was perfect bc he could operate outside those illnesses and keep me calm and balanced and present. In another he was an ideal I could never live up to bc I was a broken human.

Olivia Donovan

I am totally in the camp that this was written right after the Grammys, I read “I’m the best thing at this party” that exact same way!! It’s my favorite line in the whole song. It’s just so true and heartbreaking and how I imagine a LOT of their relationship. Joe avoiding being in the middle of everything, even avoiding her. Seeking refuge in a corner acting too cool to be around her friends or stand in her shadow. I still read hoax as more of an ode to Scott, but I read a lot of folklore as an open letter to him since he was a weird… twisted, father figure in her life (I feel like in certain instances they were closer than Taylor and her actual father). I DO however think bejeweled is about Joe. She probably saw it coming and I think even in a relationship, especially one that’s breaking down, taylor has a way of taking moments and making them SEEM universal or about a past life when really.. they’re applicable to where she is in the moment. Loved the dissection.. I am obsessed with you’re losing me it’s so damn sad. THE DAYLIGHT CONNECTION ALMOST MADE ME CRRYY I know the snakes are not fans of that little lullaby but I love that song because it reminds me of finding my current bf. And to think of the daylight turning dark is just. Ugh. Crying.

Carson Shaffer

Hi! Can I please have the link to join the discord?

Xhayton

Muah 💋 perfect Madeline

Kate Bridges

A bit off topic and maybe already been discussed but has anyone analyzed the Midnights cover art? Just the way Joe is a lover/collector of lighters so her holding one may symbolize him and she's looking down at it thinking whether she should close it and turn off the flame

Allie J

"I wouldn't marry me either, a pathological people pleaser // I'd marry you with paper rings // I take this magnetic force of a man to be my lover // I think he knows he better lock it down or I won't stick around // Church bells ring, carry me home, rice on the ground, looks like snow // I want to show you how forever feels // I vowed I would always be yours because we survived the great war. Or ALTERNATIVELY... I wouldn't marry me either // all they keep asking me is if I'm gonna be your bride // storm coming, good husband, bad omen, dragged my feet right down the aisle // all that you ever wanted from me was nothing." ^ I see BOTH of these readings being true. I think Taylor did think Joe was the one throughout their relationship, but I think he was asking her to sacrifice herself and her career in order to be with him (i. bejeweled / anti-hero / peace) and as her career has been growing so much again in the last few years she has realised she wants that more than settling down (i.e lavendar haze / midnight rain). Also side note! But the beginning of Lavender Haze music video starts with INCENSE BURNING and they are sleeping in MAROON sheets with the MASTERMIND record laid next to them. She new it was ending, she knew he was LOSING her because he wouldn't see her in all her shimmering glory!

Miranda Blumanstock

what’s even MORE crazy is the turkey CO WROTE sweet nothing.

Ally ❤️

Timeline: I can’t find it on the copyright database, which argues for it being a recently written song. But it’s written by Jack, Aaron, and Taylor… which sorta speaks to either the Grammys when they were last together, or REALLY Recently in New York 🤷‍♀️ I got nothing basically.

lavendersnake

Y’all… False God is reading really differently to me now too. I never understood it but now I feel like that was a harbinger of what was to come. Esp how she seemed almost angry at certain lines when singing it on Saturday…

Erin S

So much of this song makes me reflect on the relationship my brother had with his last girlfriend before he met the one he would marry. They dated 3 years, had some ups and downs, and he’d feel somewhat obligated to give her chance after chance because she was making attempts to come to terms with what he needed in a partner (his faith was important to him, and she wasn’t raised in any belief… she was trying to understand and go to church with him, but she struggled). There was never a betrayal or anything by either party… just my brother finally reached the point in their relationship where he knew he couldn’t marry her even though he cared about her a lot. He had loved her, but was no longer in love with her. She fought the relationship ending… dramatically. She tried getting him back even after he had moved on… even after he had gotten engaged to his wife (which was about 15 months into their relationship and maybe 20 months after the previous one ended.) This girl loved my brother - or at least the idea of him (someone good and kind and successful and liked by her parents) - probably more than he loved her. But they began dating at a time when he was feeling low and down on himself and I think she built up his self-confidence, so much that he knew he didn’t need to settle for someone who almost suited him, but could hold out for the one who truly was his life partner. In hindsight, that former relationship went on too long… to the point that the other girl really thought they were headed for marriage. She would say things to us about the future and other stuff that made it clear she would say yes if he just asked. He was just too nice to break up with her when he should have. It was a major argument they had and an attempt on her part to kidnap his dog (saying, “I’m taking Jack so I’ll have someone to cuddle with if not you!”) that finally ended things. All that to say, this song and a retrospective of her catalog of songs about Joe tells me she loved him more than he loved her… or at least was more determined to hang on to the relationship. Maybe because of how long it did last, maybe because she was at an age of considering marriage, maybe because he never really did anything to betray her… but just couldn’t love her enough to make sacrifices in his own life for her. The circumstances under which they met… he probably was perfect for her and who she was at that time. And then the pandemic extended that environment of isolation that he enjoyed and the relationship was able to coast along. But once she was able to return to her normal “life of the party” self, their innate differences could no longer be ignored. She wasn’t perfect for him no matter how much she tried… tried to be content in the woods and at The Lakes, writing poetry, and making songs out of the little melodies he tapped out on the piano. But then the bars and stadiums reopened and she was hanging up her fisherman’s sweater and breaking out the rhinestones and eyeliner and she was going out, with or without him. And he hated her life i the spotlight more than he loved being with her, so he let her go. He didn’t make an effort choose her, so she chose herself. The “pathological people-pleaser” line… this is Taylor calling out something I think we’ve kind of observed about her, which is that she has a tendency to morph herself to whomever she is dating at the time. We’ve characterized these changes as her “eras” and intentional reinventions of herself to match the music to come, but really it seems to be more about her mirroring the person she wants to accept her. It’s what every teenager does to fit in and make friends. Taylor said it herself that no one wanted to play with her as a little kid, so she learned to scheme and strategize to make people love her. She donned the country twang and wore the boots and sundresses of a country ingenue to get what she wanted from Nashville. She wanted to show the established, celebrated singer/songwriters she looked up to but who doubted her youthful talent that she was in fact one of them, so she collaborated with John Mayer and earned his praise and admiration and let him take advantage of her naïveté before getting back at him with that same talent. When she dated Jake, she mimicked his style in her own fashion choices and tried to fit in with his older, New York crowd. Then we had her cos-playing as a New England WASP on summer holiday from Wellesley in Nantucket to fit in with Conor Kennedy’s crowd. Etc, etc… we all know the pattern. She did the same with Joe… she thought it was him liking her for her when they met, but she wasn’t really herself then. And overtime, she tried hard to live up to his ideal, but it wasn’t being true to herself. I hope one day she does find the person who truly loves her for her.

TXswiftie

I agree that she "loved" him more than he loved her, and I think it is a combination of not wanting to "lose another man" and her belief in romance. There were pictures of them in the Bahamas in June (?) of 2022. I wonder if he showed her attention from time to time when she would threaten to leave. My biggest practical question: where did he live all the times during "breaks"? I fear he stayed in the London townhouse as the break would be all too real if she kicked him out.