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Welcome back to the Evolution of a Snake. Today's episode is the final Taylor Talk of 2023 and boy it's a doozy. We give some space to discuss the final leg of this year's Eras Tour, including the grave tragedy that took place in Rio de Janeiro. Elsewhere, we discuss the success of the Eras Tour Film, the flop of the Black Friday Merch, and whether or not Taylor Swift is the Person of the Year. Don't forget to sign up for the Patreon to hear from us three more times before the end of the year! https://www.patreon.com/swiftologist

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Cameron

Madeleine’s eyeshadow is so CVNT today wowww

Erin S

The term “Swiftie” has been co-opted by the “new people”. It’s The Gilded Age, Take 2 and all these new people/new Swifties are coming in here neuveaux-Taylor-riche thanks to Mother blessing everyone with an untold wealth of content these last 4 years. And WE - the “old people”, the OG Swifties - are aghast at these “new” people swooping in to Taylorville and acting like they own the place and telling US what’s what and putting us on blast for our careful thoughts on Taylor and constructive criticism from a place of love! 😂 https://images.app.goo.gl/mZGH1b9CNnwehsCY7

Domi Solo

About GA for concerts, being from Europe, this is normal. There might be a safety concern if they actually put the chairs in GA and try to control the crowd. I know it’s hard to understand from the American perspective.

Sydney Shepard

Madeline when I get married someday I literally want to hire you to do my makeup!! You always serve the best looks!!

Ria

I got ATTACKED on twitter for saying $19.89 is a ridiculous prince for a RENTAL

Zane Camryn

I think people forget that discussing the passing of the fan publicly could be seen as an admission of guilt / used as evidence in the court of law. She is not solely responsible and shouldn’t be forced to be when it was clearly the Venue’s fault

Taylor L

I'm SO glad you brought up that twitter thread. I sent it in the discord bc I didn't see anyone talking about it at first and remember being soooo annoyed lmao

Lexi

definitely one of the best taylor talks of the year! 🤭

Kelsee Cat

great episode guys. Im really excited for your billionare video you're releasing soon!! Madeline your makeup is serving today. love it. 😺

Christian

A birthday present from the snakes 🤩

Ally ❤️

Wow!!! It’s been an incredible year!

Jade

About the harsh callouts happening so quickly and without nuance after Ana’s death: I think people really do forget that Taylor is, in fact, a person. And, as a human freaking being, she’s not going to have an immediate and perfect response (if there even is such a thing.) I agree that it’s wrong to center Taylor’s pain over Ana’s family’s pain, but it’s also ridiculous to expect Taylor to have no emotions, process something instantly, and have a response that pleases everyone, while she deals with grief and probably laws and a bunch of other complications. Anyway, thank you for providing a thoughtful and balanced viewpoint! Love you guys as always :)

Jade

“If it doesn’t happen on social media, it doesn’t happen. If it doesn’t happen to me, it doesn’t happen.” Yes! So much!!!

Madeline

OBSESSED with the eye shadow madeleine !!

Olivia Claire

I NEED London night 1 surprise songs to be “London Boy” followed by “You’re Losing Me”. I’ll never receive my wish but I would be beyond amused at the sass of “London Boy, you’re losing me” as a sentence.

Ria

waiting for the day one of you two dont hate Sabrina...no she's not Taylor Swift or close with songwriting but then again I dont think she's ever claimed to be. She just serves looks and sings fun catchy songs and tbh she does that reallyyyyy well. She's notoriously had a super shitty label who does jack all so im curious to see what she can do with a proper team

Ria

Also...Zack in Singapore just give Sab a chance! You may not like the songs but she definitely puts on a SHOW like she's out there really performing

surem

Madeleine - the people need the links to the fanmade merch you were talking about please 🤲

Erin S

Especially in another country… you have to be careful of saying or doing anything (like giving money) that might be considered an admission of guilt under another country’s laws. Or doing anything that might nullify an insurance payout or something. Taylor is a corporation as much as she is a person with feelings and there is a lot at stake.

Heather

Wow, even for stadiums? In America we have GA in arenas, but that can get dangerous too and it's less than half the size. I can't see how cramming groups of people together in a stadium-sized open space is a good idea. Even if it is the norm, it's still wrong.

Monika

I'm new to the Patreon and have been going through your past videos and SHIVERED when you were recording before your eras tour night and saw that the South American tour dates were GA and zach said omg someone is going to die mark my words....

taliuchis

Hi y'all - long time listener/enjoyer & new Patreon member!! I just had to pause as you were talking about the tragedy in Brazil because I actually worked very closely with the Brazilian population here in the US (of various generations) for a while and can most certainly confirm that nuance mentioned about death - I remember one of the most interesting things I learned about the difference between Brazilian and Portuguese people is that as a culture in general, Brazil is more of a loud girl (love that for her bc they deserve to party and dance and be hydrated and well fed and protected in general), so it totally makes sense. Also (in shorter terms LOL), confirmed with my old coworker who migrated from Brazil to the US like 6 years ago. Thank you as usual for the laughter and being my new fave discovery... see you in Boston! <3

Emeraldgreen373

I re wound Madeline saying “let me be clear: if they break up…I’ll kill myself” like 100X 💀

Alex

had to finish writing my final paper on singapore’s semiconductor industry today and thought of you king