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.One. .Piece. .Skypiea. 12 (Ep. 173-174) (Patreon)

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2025-03-25 17:00:14
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Luke

Goats

Veronia

YAAYYY LETS GOOO💜💜

Melizé

City of gold!!!

Marcus D

Brig with the nice hoodie, sneakily showing some one piece love.

Qhoa

W

DAI

I read the manga like 1000 years ago so I forgot how did the girl end up with the dad and daughter??? Wasn't she in the "village" and wasnt the family in the gun fall hideout??

Marcus D

I just went to cross check with the manga. It just cuts to that scene, we didn’t get any set up of their meeting before that, at least in the 5 chapters before it that I checked, I guess oda didn’t want to waste time. The anime shows how they meet but one piece cut it out or maybe it came at a different order in the manga and we’ll get it in one pace later, who knows. As for Conis and Pagaya, an episode or so ago we see them talking about doing something to help mentioning that they’re already criminals at this point, so this is the progression of that discussion.

DAI

I'm pretty sure I have read about them meeting up but I cannot remember...

Dreamknight942

Robins moments this arc are so interesting and cool. Also interesting to hear your thoughts on the relevance of the poneglyphs.

Zipzzty

YES EARLY PEAK

Zipzzty

Fr Goats

Zipzzty

Early Peak

Zipzzty

LETS GOOO

snoobcat

Early peak ?!

OneTeez90

16:25 Because Sanji means 3 o’clock in japanese ^^

jrnoodles

Thanks Geks! I'm with Carter.

Toska Water

We hear you, Carter; most of us had no choice but to watch it traditionally.

Veronia

Crazy to think that he’s named after a time🤣🤣 even crazier when u realize oda was gonna call him Naruto, but went with sanji instead for obvious reasons🤣💕

cozo

37:01 if an arc is bad, one pace makes it better and more enjoyable, but if an arc is good, and one pace still makes it better and more enjoyable how is that not a reason to still use one pace if it would just make something good even better 😭

Anton Sakshaug (Jancked)

Traditional is nice, ive only watched it that way so dont know how One Pace is but i must admit skypiea is very enjoyable so far. Tho i actully really liked the traditional one aswell

Nashi

This was so short😭 Carter, some arcs will literally just hinder your experience watching it traditionally. Trust us, or the majority, in which arcs need to be watched in One Pace. This is definitely one of them, but a few arcs that are coming definitely do not need One Pace

Nick

I think one pace is good to always have as an option, and is great for stuff like dressrosa, thriller bark, and even skypiea, but the next real arcs are great even with the normal version. Plus you can mix one pace episodes to speed up the pace at certain points (early water seven)

LeBron Glazer (Bronsexual)

IMO, y’all should watch it like this W7- OG EL- Pace/OG for sum episodes TB- Pace SA- OG ID- Pace MF- OG but debatable PMF- Pace Everything after this Pace except 2nd half of W**O

Grady

Robin does have an arc and it’s goated, I’d pivot the predictions. Is all I’d say

Dandy Zoran

Feel you on that Carter. I love Skypiea but the pacing of it a real slog at times

Marcus D

According to the wiki, it gets explained later on in this episode they’re watching. In the future weshould probably watch the whole thing before talking about stuff like this haha

Dasha

16:23 For Cannon: "san ji" means 3 hours in Japanese (san = three, ji = hours) edit: nvm someone already said this

Dasha

I wonder how you know who would be named if Sanji's name was Naruto

Marcus D

Naruto is a shortened word for a fishcake so it wouldn’t have been any greater of a name haha. I love both names though, too much good anime history with them.

Marcus D

They should just stay traditional after LRLL, until post time skip and then stop at the arc that we all know where the animation is consistently great. Too much messing around otherwise. Pre time skip is mostly bearable pace wise. Post is when one pace is really needed.

ahmad

Carter you're right that it's not the traditional way to watch the show, however One Pace is a massive passion project with exceptionally high quality (it's not perfect, just like the original). There are hundreds of unpaid members that contribute and manage the project purely out of love, and wanting the anime to follow the manga more faithfully. So that's mainly why it's highly recommended by so many of us in the community.

Mitch

More faithful to manga doesn’t automatically mean better. But I agree cannon and brig weaker arcs that have bad pacing like skypiea are def improved thru one pace. I also see what Carters saying, I personally watched every single one piece ep including filler because I figured if I’m gonna watch 1000+ eps I’m gonna experience everything it has to offer. It’s different when yall are reacting tho cause you can’t just binge 10 eps a day. I think yall are on point with using OG for the good arcs and one pace for weaker ones.

Mitch

W**O won’t be reached for years but it’s gonna be contentious cause the arc does have weak pacing but it’s also one of the most gorgeous and well animated arcs to ever exist

Dasha

yeah sorry I forgot English has a dedicated word for it lol

Mitch

Yea personally I think the climax of op arcs and the endings are almost always done fantastically in the OG. Any “filler” that is added in these moments always add more weight to the arcs.

JojoJack

I’m with Carter. To the other Geks, you really want the manga experience, just read the manga bro.

Maj

Yeah but if you're given the choice of an alternative when you know full well the anime is poorly paced to such an extent the experience will become unenjoyable, why wouldn't you pick one pace? If you're a professional anime critic sure I guess, but man if I knew one pace existed when I watched it back in 2022/23, I woulda used that shit all the time. My right arrow key took a beating skipping through some of the pacing during the show🤣🤣🤣 Pacing issues aside that's still my 🐐 show, but as a first time one pace watcher this rewatch is so much more enjoyable than my first watch of the original

ahmad

I'm ok with either for preTS. Their biggest complaint for some of these preTS arcs will be pacing (similarly to Arabasta), but I don't think the pacing is bad enough to say that One Pace is mandatory.

JeanJean

Side characters being more like side characters is unfortunately an issue that will just get worse as One Piece goes on. Reason why I really love to come back to early One Piece.

sesaka

RSA and FI should be seen in the modern remake tho. Would be best

sesaka

Unironically enjoying skypiea now with one pace compared to my first time watching it traditionally. One pace isnt without faults but feels like a more well rounded experience. Oda cooking as always

sesaka

My argument against the original is that were watching one piece for the writing Oda made. Im not watching it for the random shit Toei studio comes up with. Thats why one pace is better imo.

Dasha

people trying to figure out the ways to defeat Enel is my favorite part of Skypiea reactions

Kae D. en

As someone who is fully caught up to one piece anime and manga, I have to say I have enjoyed one pace so far. I was always a little skeptical about it for the same reasons as carter is, but for arcs like skypiea that toei dragged out, one pace is certainly a good option. At most some funny jokes and banter gets cut out, which sucks, but it's better than an entire arc being watered down and tarnished in the eyes of the viewer. One piece tells such amazing stories in each arc, and the only arcs that are really called "bad" within the community are usually the ones that have bad pacing

Aokiji Piece🧊

Shoutout to the MANGA. That’s what we like to hear! 🗣️🔥

Zess

Carter is entirely correct. I think when people say "it's a 1:1 to the manga" is factually incorrect, not to mention anyone who wants to watch the anime does not actually want the 1:1. Because that would mean it would just be a bunch of still images, no animation, no voices, no music, just static imagery. By that point you just read the manga. Watching a show can never be a true 1:1 for that reason, because people want to see movement right? lol so saying one pace is a true manga adaptation isn't correct either. It's "closer" in the sense there a bunch of cuts with no in between between scenes, which is where you see people just teleporting around and in the middle of dialogue out of nowhere, because a manga is limited in that way. Anime adaptation are not limited in that way, so the in between moments are just a product of a comic being turned into animation. It is unavoidable. All this to say, I am enjoying the one pace adaptation for the arc, it's not bad at all. But people saying it's a true adaptation of the manga are fundamentally misunderstanding what that actually means.

Harrison Hird

one pace is the more authentic experience in my eyes because its one piece as Oda intended rather than a series of random editors at toei animation. as far as im concerned the one piece anime is toei animations bastardization of the best selling manga of all time.

Tom

Carters take is completely understandable, just naïve you're really losing almost nothing by watching One Pace, and that's true for all arcs not just the slow ones. However the 'Original' isn't really the original; the Toei version is just the story extended for profit, there is rarely much artist licence take with the anime version, at least not this early on.

Benjamin Knock

Yeah but a lot of classic jokes come from those scenes, g8 is filled with memes and thats entirely fake

Marcus D

Skypiea robin may be my favourite Robin design/fit.

Marcus D

The Toei FMI remaster cuts out a lot of manga canon scenes that they animated in the original and also butchers great scenes. It should just be the original or one pace.

Niko

actually spitting incredible fax here.

Dasha

I'm with Carter about one pace take. If you could binge one piece I'll never vote for one pace, but it's insanely hard to choose OG when you can only watch 4 episodes per week and need 5+ years to catch up. So in your situation one pace saves the day

Marcus D

San-ji= 3 o’clock San-jikan= 3 hours(which is what Enel said)

Marcus D

Let’s just make it clear that Skypiea is a good arc even without one pace😤

Aokiji Piece🧊

@Zannen Da I completely disagree. Why wouldn’t they choose One Pace? Some people might want to watch the most accurate thing instead of reading it. That’s why One Pace is great for this. Why waste time watching Toei’s dragged-out pacing in arcs like these? I’m not entirely against the original, but using One Pace with arcs like Skypiea is the right and correct choice imo.

JojoJack

Well, reacting is their ‘job’, right? So One Pace is just a work-hack for them to use.

Ante

Technically correct, but a little pendantic imo. Everybody knows what is meant by '1:1 with the manga' - prioritising the manga interpretation as best as possible. Saying that One Pace is the manga is true without splitting hairs.

Aokiji Piece🧊

In a sense, but it’s still the most accurate way. Do you think the remake of One Piece is going to be closer to Toei’s One Piece or One Pace, which was deliberately made to be closer to the manga? It will be closer to One Pace because the remake is also trying to trim down the dragged-out pacing and be more in line with what Oda wrote in his manga.

julia

Luffy is MVP of every arc fr, he always gives his all in each arc that’s why he’s my no.1 mc! He is not a wimp who is scared of death either! Also, I know Carter wants to experience as everyone but if you’re watching in your own time, it’s not a problem. For a reaction channel, one pace is a better option!

wanira 11

Weaker as in more dragged out

Ante

Love how Cannon and Brig's are having Spidey Senses about how dragged Luffy being stuck in the snake is in the OG. I don't personally have any beef with the OG. I watched the whole show that way. I'm just not too sentimental about the lost jokes. For me, the feeling that my time isn't being wasted (or entertainment value i guess) is more important. But the popularity of One Pace will definitely change depending on the arc.

Amare D.

Carter don't worry you'll get to watch og arcs in the future

Wyvern

How is Aisa all of a sudden with Conis and her dad?

Cade

*points finger up and circles it* SUIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Marcus D

As you see later their meeting was explained, it was just off-screened.

Marcus D

Well said. I feel the same way. Although I do still hope they watch some of the greatest pre time skip arcs the OG way.

Wyvern

Yeah I got to that part, it just felt really random. I bet one pace cut out the scene. I have seen this before and I knew Aisa did get together with the crew but I feel like it was less abrupt when I watched it without one pace.

Marcus D

One pace cut out the scene Becuase it’s anime original. I literally checked the manga at the start of this reaction and one pace matched it 1:1 funnily enough

Zipzzty

Seeing This Episode And Being Caught Up With The Manga Is crazy 😭😭😭

Zipzzty

Fr in the Manga Every Arc Is Enjoyable Except some

Zipzzty

😭😭

Marcus D

Just to be clear. The amount of filler/fluff Toei animation adds is the same for every pre time skip one piece arc, besides east blue. The next big arc for example, which every one loves, has a lot of fluff, but since the content is more to their liking they tolerate it more/ read into it less. Which is fine, but the statement of skypiea having more filler than other arcs and that’s why people say to use one pace, is false.

Zipzzty

Definitely goated…

Carlos

Stick with one pace for now even with the weird moments being cut off. Skypia was really dragged out for me in the og

TheKebabSeller

I'm with carter, i like the traditional way, especially because One Pace has numerous awkward scene transitions that anime studios typically smooth out by filling in the gaps between manga panels.

Marcus D

P.S. Skypiea was pretty enjoyable during my first watch, which was with the OG version. It was my favourite arc up until that point. A lot of people like it more than alabasta and many have it in their top 10 out of the 30+ existing arcs, even before one pace became well known. So yes one pace makes it better but it was DEFINITELY not buns in the OG. Skypiea OG is 50/50 community divisive at worst.

Murasaki

Carter, you will never get the exact same watching experience as two types of casual viewers. The first type is like me who caught up with One Piece as an adult. But I skipped a lot of boring fights, repetitive flashbacks, and right arrow or 1.5x during bad pacing parts. You cant do this, which makes significant different watching experiences. The second type is those who watched it as a kid. Pacing is rarely an issue for kids in the 90s or early 2000s. I grew up watching animes but now I cant rewatch most of them bcs of the bad pacing. Its not possible for you to have the same experience as those OP fans as well. And tbf we as kids watched everyhing including fillers so if you are saying you want the same experience and dont care about manga accuracy, you need to watch all filler episodes lol. Ofc there will also be viewers who just watch every second of it as an adult and love it, ig they are not as sensitive to pacing as you are.

Wyvern

Oh so in the manga its just as abrupt? That's weird. Oda doesn't usually do stuff like that. I feel like usually he prefers to just show a scene rather than describe it through the characters words like this time. But I guess his style was still a little inconsistent at this point.

Pace

Can’t wait for this arc to end

Guy

In your guys' scenario, you just have to pick one: - Watch the show as it was originally created and spend the next 5 years slowly catching up. You will suffer through parts are unnecessarily stretched out and even during good parts you'll still find fluff. You will likely get burnt out with it during these periods. (Think like the bridge/Orochimaru's hideout arc in Shippuden for example) For a sense of it, just know that a few arcs later in One Piece are 100+ episodes on their own. Or - Watch the show where fans have removed the fluff and paced it better and take maybe 2 years catching up. There are some arcs that are still written with fluff even in the manga itself, but it's less likely to burn you guys out during these slow parts. You do miss out on anime original jokes and antics that for some could add to the experience and distinguish the anime from the manga. But in my experience One Pace does a good job at retaining a lot of these anime original moments when they add to the experience (not including "Scooby-Doo-like" scenes where everyone's just running in circles from an enemy or something) Watching as it was "originally intended" is good and all, but that would be preferred for people that are watching this show casually and can consume more at one time to get through it quicker. No joke, one of the newest arcs in the show would take you a year by itself to get through at a 4 episode/week pace. One Pace might work out best for you guys

Marcus D

Yep, he also did the same thing with Enel shocking sanji. I think it was just his style back then and changed it as time goes on. Oda has been drawing the series for almost 30 years so he’s bound to change in some ways.

Daniella

I'm currently binging one piece and i've only started using one pace cause i heard from the 600's onwards the arcs get really bad (like one chapter per episode 😭). But because you guys have a schedule i would suggest using one pace for the extra padded arcs, at least if you want to get to a good place with the show by the end of the year. But for me personally i like the long journey of watching it traditionally i still enjoyed Skypiea without using one pace :)

Pace

Yup they only adapted like 1 chapter per episode and filled the rest of the episode with filler and recaps which makes it unwatchable and ruins the original story

Pace

I’m STARVING for them to reach the next saga already bring on WATER 7 😭

Marcus D

Robin’s whole story this episode was really enjoyable and fun to watch again. From her lecturing Yama about the importance of knowing past human existence, to enthusiastically exploring a lost, fallen, grand ancient city. Recording and remembering past human presence is very important and I guess something about learning of lost great civilisations just tickles me in the right spot.

Nic ☦︎

yea though I get carters point on why watching all of op in original form could be a more authentic experience for new op fans and not feel like you watched a whole different thing, i will always be in defence of one pace on certain arcs like skypiea because tbh watching it for the first time in its original form at least for me was insufferable at points when i was watching characters doing irrelevant shit in some episodes. for future reference I would highly recommend using one pace for LRLL(or just skip that arc and get to the point where they meet a certain character)and after that its definitely not needed for quite a while beacuse of Water 7 and Enies Lobby.

Marcus D

That’s a big exaggeration Trznk. It doesn’t make it unwatchable nor ruins the story, it just makes watching a slower and less smooth experience due to skipping openings/fillers and having to go to a new episodes so often.

Lorenzo

definitely man. 100% they will start enjoying one piece a bunch more, such a good arc

beannie

as someone who has used one pace for 2 arcs and a half only lol, I do agree that you guys need to use one pace for a lot of arcs, I watched the arcs that people “hate” the most without one pace, and i didn’t hate them, there’s always cool stuff or easter eggs in every single arc imo, but the bad pacing gets to a point that makes you lose a lot of interest in the good plot points just because after every single lore drop or iconic moment, you can even get 10-15 eps of things that are unrelated to those set ups for cool stuff in the future, or they just keep teasing you with it, but never actually adding to the topic, idk if I’m explaining myself well, the point is, the thing that makes people drop this show the most is not seeing the bigger picture of it imo, and that happens because of the pacing, so yeah, I yapped tf out of this topic😭but as a one piece original form enjoyer, I support the use of one pace for you guys, and for any reactor atp, when we get the reveal of what actually is the one piece… there’s literally no way you can scape of finding out, people are gonna post that sht everywhere and they don’t care ab spoiling others😭 so you might as well catch up as fast as you can!!

Pudding

20:51 this Robin shot is insane 21:32 this one too look at her servinggg This is Robin's episode for real, I love her

eiden

Guys please don’t fight

DCMH

Fate? :)

Pudding

Gotta say, the Robin exploration side quest made this upload extra enjoyable for me! It's like the chaotic energy One Piece usually has disappeared for a bit, it felt like a Ghibli movie instead! 🌳🏔Loved it!! It made me crave to rewatch some of the next episodes to jog my memory about Skypiea lore. I don't remember if Robin still does alone side quests like this in the future, but I hope so!

Kae D. en

One might say Enel was *shocked* at how he was defeated

Pudding

I probably watched this arc when I was like 12, and now I'm 20. Safe to say, as a kid I didn't catch or register many things. It's like watching new episodes now, thank you Geks for the opportunity, would have never rewatched the whole show on my own!! I used to think I disliked Skypiea for some reason, but why is it pretty good?? I like it now

Kite

I thought the Shandians were based on the Native Indians but it looks more like the Mayan civilization (or Aztec i'm not sure). Pretty cool stuff.

Kite

wait, I think it literally is lol, did I just spotted Quetzalcóatl in an anime 😯

Ninaly

Guys, One Pace being 1-to-1 with the manga doesn't make it automatically better ... manga and comics don't need to follow the same screen and storytelling rules, there's a reason you will never see an official panel-to-panel adaptation. While a large portion of OP's extra time is just filler, there is still a fair bit of it that helps establish and connect scenes in ways mangas don't need to. One Pace will always feel jumpier in comparison. I'm fine with One Pace for disliked or notoriously long arcs, but it'd be great if you could watch more popular arcs in their original release. (So after the next LRLR arc in One Pace, a return to normal?)

Tom

Curious if you have watched One Pace? They keep this in mind, hence it not being a 1:1 with the manga, it's just 1:1 scenes in the manga, they by in large keep extended anime scenes if it's done for atmospheric or artistic reasons, it mainly the 'bloat' as they call it that they cut.

Ninaly

I've watched One Pace but never before I watched the original episode, if that matters. It definitely feels edited down to me, but to be honest, I'm watching the FI remake right now and even that sometimes feels disconnected/jumpy. I think 2D is much harder to edit than live action due to how differently they are produced.

Benjamin Knock

loosly based off of both, the current shandorians are much more similar to north eastern style native americans but their ancestors used to be a much more powerful nation akin to the mayans. oda also just writes for fun so nothing is ever going to be super accurate to the real world and some are better than others, wano for instance (based on japan) does a much better job as its his homeland

Pace

I started with manga which is why I struggled so much with the OG anime cause it was not only like watching a mediocre diluted child-like story(extended scenes + filler) but it was also like watching it in slow motion - like fight scenes for example (which is more so animation related cause characters running forever, prolonged reactions & ppl hovering in the air for multiple seconds whereas in the manga it feels more immersive and rightly paced to match what ur brain expects of gravity abit more (in context of fights and stuff). Story wise i feel like Toei destroys the impact of the plot by bloating it with unoriginal drag that shifts focus and u can’t even tell was original and what’s not in certain arcs cause so much recapping, running, extended comedy scenes (ruining the comedy). One pace cuts off much of my frustration. So grateful wit studio is remaking this masterpiece because it truly deserves a PROPER adaptation to match it’s god-tier story

ahmad

Toei butchered FMI both times. Just One Pace it

Kayanolive

Having watched both, One Pace is just that much better. One Piece Fans can be very loud cause its their favortie series (its mine aswell) but they think One Pace cuts out important stuff when it literally just gets rid of the INSANE fluff Toei Animations put into this show to drag it out. They do weekly Updates to their Episodes, fixing things, listening to feedback etc. One Pace is the Mammoth Project of us One Piece Fans. We wouldnt do One Pace if we didnt care for this Story. The Manga is PEAK, so is One Pace. The Fluff makes this story unbearable (saving 1500 minutes on some arcs. yes, i know lmao) At the time of this post, you save over 132+ hours overall compared to watching the original anime

Kayanolive

Watched both, what Toei Animation did to the Anime Adaptation of One Piece is almost a crime. Yeah i didnt care about pacing 12 years ago since i was a teenager but HOLY FRICK is it bad on a rewatch. Like bad to the point where i only watch 1-2 episodes before needing to stop.

Nami Swannn

I understand what Carter is saying. I watched the og, and I would definitely suggest that if y’all weren’t also watching a hand full of other series. Despite One Pace being 1 to 1 with the manga, anime adaptations aren’t meant to be that. They’re supposed to expanded upon the limitations of the manga medium and that’s really easy and fun to do with an adventure series like One Piece. Having said that, sometimes that causes pacing issues (such as seen in this arc), so I think it’s just more optimal to watch One Pace since you’re not only binging this series. It’ll just help save time. And so far One Pace has been better than I expected! It been doing really good so I don’t think it’ll ruin the overall experience of the show 👍🏼

SlyMorris

bro those are also considered native americans lol

Dasha

What Toei animation did to one piece is distributed in globally, localized it, helped build a worldwide fanbase, licensed merchandise worldwide, all while maintaining consistent weekly production for over 25 years. I bet you wouldn’t know about one piece as a teenager if it wasn’t for Toei

EmlovesOP

I think let Jack decide lol. I understand Carter, like most of us watched the orginal and it is obviously better production wise even with the bad pacing. Truly Im fine with one pace being used just for skypiea this was one arc that I truly did struggle with watching. You can always rewatch Carter trust me you will want to or just read it. I feel thou if we staying we orginal maybe add two more eps a week.

EmlovesOP

Also that scene with Robin truly is something special my queen

brog.

nico robin

brog.

so true

Nami Swannn

Also someone mentioned Lego and coincidentally a One Piece X Lego collab is being released August 1st so y’all are in luck

Diable Jambe Flores

Yeah I think 3 per drop, 6 per week is reasonable. That would be a much better pace than the 4 per week. Just my opinion on it. Especially skipping intro and outro that clicks in to just about an hour of viewing each drop.

EmlovesOP

it's def difficult as a reaction channel people are saying for example, to skip G8 and I agree we all want that arc to come but at the same time... these small arcs even to this day I look back on. I like the perspective it gives to Marines kinda unfortunate they will be missing out on this.

Rhettoric

I really appreciate the long intro and outro guys! As someone who stands by my recommendation of One Pace for this arc, I actually agree with Carter's sentiment. Using One Pace here is relative to your unique situation of only being able to watch a few episodes a week, because the pacing of Skypiea in the OG is often dragged out. As someone who has seen the traditional anime version, I will say that the only thing I regret from the One Pace cut is missing Luffy's Sanji impersonation. Lastly, I will echo some sentiments about One Pace not being automatically better because it's 1:1 with the manga. The anime has added touching scenes, hilarious scenes, and epic fight sequences that One Pace has cut throughout the series, but Skypiea is one of the One Pace arcs that I confidently believe is better than the traditional anime. I will try my best to make my voice heard if I think One Pace is a bad idea for certain arcs.

Kayanolive

Probably cause of the original Anime version ruining this arc, which made this the second most skipped arc by fans. Which is insane to me

Miitei

Man, I have to pick this up again, I'm stuck in ep45 or so lol

Amy M

I agree with you. I would love for them to be able to watch more episodes a week so it wouldnt take them 5 years to catch up watching the OG, but if One Pace cuts down on that time I guess thats what I would vote for (for the slower arcs) Personally, I watched it as an adult, and caught up in 7 months watching about 4 episodes a day. I enjoyed it and actually enjoy some of the additional crew moments we get from Toei since the characters are my favorite part of the show.

Promanex(Alex)

yeah the manga I would say is 90% of the time would be better than the anime because of how drawn out it sometimes get but for hype moments One Piece anime always cooks so One Pace/the manga for bad pacing arcs and episodes and original for the hype moments which in my opinion elevated from the manga.

SavDog23

I've mentioned it before, but in my opinion, having watched the entirety of One Piece (multiple times) and One Pace all the way through, the only arcs that are a better experience with One Pace are: Skypiea LRLL TB FMI through to Zou. I believe all the other arcs are better experiences in One Piece for various reasons. W7 to Post MF is the run that turns One Piece into a masterpiece for many viewers, a legendary run that cooks non stop for nearly 300 episodes. I'm always of the thought with any media to experience greatness in it's original form.

SuperChuckABoo

I'll be another one that says i'm enjoying Skypeia a lot more through One Pace than I did on the OG viewing. I do like they follow the manga more, but I also understand the argument of fleshing things out in the anime cause end of the day if you want an exact replica then just go to the source and read the manga. Some of the later arcs pre time skip are absolutely unbearable with pacing, sometimes taking up half the episode with zero new content. So far I think One Pace is doing a great job with the edits. Also, there is a Naruto version of One Pace.

TrueCrisp

16:21 Sanji means 3:00. San means 3 and Ji means time or o'clock

Michael H

To be honest, I think original One Piece’s reputation for bad pacing has gotten out of control. There are a few sections that stick out as being bad, and the beginning recaps get ridiculously long, but it’s not unbearable or anything. The episodes are still good even when they don’t move things along as fast as they could. 🤷🏽 That being said, One Pace is good too. I think it’s kinda crazy to keep using it after this (except for LRLL—anything to speed that up), but they’re both good watches 👍

Dounia

Here’s an idea.. I don’t know if someone already gave you guys this idea but every time you finish an arc you can do a poll to ask us and see if you should watch your next arc with One Pace or with the original anime pacing. That could maybe be a good and easy way for you guys to see what we think and maybe help you make a decision on how you should watch the next arcs of One Piece. Because there are arcs that I think should be watched with One Pace and some with the original way. Of course Jack can also way in with the poll and you can decide at the end on your own. Hope you consider this !

kuza

27:28 IYKYK INSANE

slimj

good call so far on one pace, keep it for the next one 100%, then drop it after for a while tbh

slimj

think most of the next several arcs won’t need it except for maybe one everyone is thinking of and many have indirectly named in the comments. but that can be a poll or something when the time arrives. still a looooong way to go in the series boys.

Maj

Brooooo this rewatch man, these lore drops and bits of foreshadowing are hitting so hard 🔥🔥🔥

Maj

I suppose it depends on how you watched it. I think it helped me cause I binged and I was able to use my right arrow key to skip those parts you're talking about 🤣🤣🤣 If I was watching 4 eps a week and didn't have the luxury to skip through the parts of episodes then my opinion on one piece would probably be entirely different. Also I used to agree about pacing complaints being blown out of proportion. But ngl since starting this rewatch, and reflecting on how I actually felt when i watched the show, i feel like the pacing complaints are kinda valid for the most part. There were some arcs where it felt like I was getting about 7 mins of actual content an episode... 👗🌹 springs to mind, that and im*e* ⬇️

Niffol

"San" is three in japanese Cannon, when he said 30 people died the san was part of the thirty i think.

Maj

Seems like the most sensible way. Thing is, (if my memory isnt movin like a goldfish) it felt like the vibes in the comments before skypiea werent really feeling using one pace for the arc. (Myself included as someone who never watched one pace) Whereas now I think the majority of the community would probs agree in hindsight that it was a good idea. (Me included, this shit is fire and the rewatch is cooking) I do wonder how many future arcs people view through rose tinted glasses. It's easier to enjoy the experience and deal with bad pacing if you have the luxury of binging 🤷🏾‍♂️

Marcus D

Unfortunately though the Lego collab will just be of the live action one piece, not the manga or anime stuff.

Alex

It was so bad for me I straight up just skipped the arc halfway through and kept going with the show. didn’t go back and watch till I found out about one pace. I do enjoy the arc but i just couldnt handle the pacing.

Nick K

I agree 100% with Carter on his reasoning for watching the original over One Pace. They call One Pace "the manga version" but it is still a fan edit. If there was a "manga version" of Naruto would Brig and Mckay say they should be watching that version instead of the original (still minus filler episodes of course). I know Brig said remake but remake implies official so unclear if he means like One Pace fan edit. The reason the One Pace discussion comes up is because One Pace exists, where as the same type of fan edit is not a thing for other series. One Pace didn't even become a project until well after the first 550+ episodes. I'm fine with you guys watching One Pace, but more so when you feel it should happen for your benefit, and not just because others tell you it's needed. Except for the very next immediate arc. If we could just speed through that please and thank youuuu

Nick K

Also One Pace cut out a jokey moment of Luffy dunking on Sanji that I know multiple people were bummed you guys didn't get to see. You can see it in this short clip (it has a few other scenes but you've already seen them so there's no spoilers) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U8lCBldQUM

Nick K

Carter revived my excitement for that until I remembered that's why I buried that memory with the disappointment

Michael H

@Maj Yeah, later on there are definitely some arcs that would benefit from One Pace. It just seems like people often take those experiences in those arcs and apply it to the whole show when 3/4 of the series is really just normal, long-running anime pacing. But, yes, I agree there are some spots where One Pace really makes a difference.

Marcus D

Up to date Manga reader here. We have no specific or concrete idea of what that image means lol

Goldyz

Brother they adapt about 1.5 chapters an episode if we are being gracious, thats horrible

Murasaki

1:1 manga to anime is impossible bcs otherwise it would be still panels. If you try reading manga you will know how it differs from anime. It’s essential to add things like movements to connect frames or to amplify emotions. These add ups are different from inserting fillers plots written by Toei or repeating a flashback like 99 times or Satori HOHOHO like 999 mins. Anyways, I feel this debate has been under every upload since Skypiea. Maybe you just do polls for all arcs except for LRLL after skypiea.

Mahti

Manga is so good 🔥🔥🔥

kuza

ig u could say "no SPECIFIC idea of what that image means" but WE clearly know who that is meant to be

Saki 🏴‍☠️✨❤️‍🔥

To answer answer Cannon's question, what Enel said was 'sanjikan', 'san' (三) meaning 3 and 'jikan' (時間) referring to time/hours, hence the '3 hours' translation Also I can appreciate what Carters saying! I grew up watching and reading the anime and manga as they were, and this is actually my first time seeing any one pace - and though I can appreciate how they're trimming some of the added fat, and can see why people might enjoy it more, I still don't really feel inclined to ever use it on my own. I'm probably also someone more interested in the fuller (albeit at times, significantly slower) experience, and tbh some of the cuts (like that mentioned with Aisa this time) just feel too jarring for my taste. Granted I feel like bingeing is something that helps the pacing issues quite a bit, and seeing as you all aren't doing that this may very well be more suited to your tastes/the reactions regardless

Saki 🏴‍☠️✨❤️‍🔥

@Niffol he was indeed saying 3! but followed by 'jikan' (meaning time/hours) he was referring to his 3 hour prediction :)

Marcos

27:27 Godamn oda the foreshadowing!!!!

Sandi uchiha

I think one pace should only be used for like thriller bark, maybe. The rest of one piece is good w out one pace.

Michael H

@SlippinGymy True. And for those couple later arcs, One Pace is fantastic. I’m mainly talking about this first half of the series, though, and how One Piece’s reputation has spread through the whole show. I mean, we have a perfect example on the screen: The Geks were all bracing themselves for a slog based on what was being said, yet they’ve said numerous times that the pacing feels pretty normal.

Mr. John Kagurabachi

Hot take but Thriller bark has better pacing then marineford

Nic ☦︎

theres no way u acc think this, marineford has literally 31 episodes in a row rated a 9 or above on imdb

Gamao99

U guys should watch blue lock, its about soccer but the 1st season its very very good

Dylan Roy

no stick with one pace they will feel the drag in real time you looking back on the series so are blinded to how bad pacing is in most arcs

Vict0

I 100% agree, especially for W7 to Post MF. I once stumbled upon other reactors reacting to EL, watched a few episodes with them, but I couldn't stop because I enjoyed each episode too much. 1 year later I'm on episode 1050 with them and the only arc I fast forwarded are TB, FMI and D lmao

Sandi uchiha

That is a hot take. I don’t remember Marineford to have any pacing issues. I do remember being annoyed about the pacing for sky piea, thriller bark and maybe fishman island. I do admit, sky piea is fire the second time around w one pace. I don’t remember enel being this cool. I think i rushed through this arc or had it as background noise at one point

Amare D.

didn't they remaster and fix the pacing for fish man because it was bad

Touchmi

One Pace: Aisa magically with Conis and her dad, who for no context what so ever are at the Upper Yard.

Tom

The scene is literally unedited, it played out exactly the same way in the original anime.

Tom

Shame they ruined the rest of the arc in the process.

Tom

People push for One Pace because it's an objectively better experience than the original. Plus the difference between other series and One Piece is that other studios actually cared about the product they produced and didn't just exploit it for profit.

Tom

No we don't

Tom

As someone who has read the manga, watched the anime and One Pace, I can 100% One Pace does improve every arc in the series beyond this point just to different extents, SA, AL, and MF are improved so marginally it doesn't matter that much. But TB and all of post time skip is so vastly improved it can't be overstated. Frankly even W7 and EL are at least twice as good with One Pace as well. I think most of the apprehension just comes from those who have never seen One Pace and don't realise how much better it makes arcs.

Touchmi

Hehehe. The best arcs have the worst pacing Brig. you think alabasta was bad, just wait til you're in the 600s episodes and it gets worse at the 900s. Toei doesn't clean up their pacing until the current arc which is why there's a six month break.

Amare D.

bro was you watching the episode they literately explained, and this happens in the manga

Amare D.

don't the anime add the scene where they save her, I'm pretty sure

Amare D.

no that was def in the original

Amare D.

that's why there a cut when they get on the boat because there was a flashback right between there

Tom

I don't quite think you know how bad it is, everything from skypiea onwards is 1 chapter an episode so about 10 mins of actual content per episode which is watchable, but disgustingly show by the standards of any other series even long running anime. Second is after episode 550+ large sections of the series are 0.5 chapters per episode that's 5 minutes of stuff happening and 10 minutes of full filler every episode. Maybe you binged the show but as someone who has been up to date for a while the anime is unwatchable week to week. It's better to just watch One Pace for the whole thing and have a infinitely better experience.

Touchmi

I recently rewatched skypiea like 2 or 3 weeks ago, which flew by on a 2nd watch and i was bummed it was over. Im pretty sure i remember the scene of Aisa's waver breaking down and Conis picking her up.

Kayanolive

Yes u save 136 hours of fluff, stretched out reaction shots, landscape shots, looping animation, repeated scenes, the same flashback over and over again BUT u miss some funny scenes i guess.

Touchmi

I'm Team Carter on this. Carter and Jack want the genuine journey. Brig and Mckay seem to just want to get to the end for the amazing animated fights they've seen clips of. One Pace might be a 1 to 1 but Toei's animation adds transitions to panels like Jack said, and its the way its meant to be watched, which creates a better experience. I also don't know of any other reactors that watched One Pace over the original.

Touchmi

Well its shorter than Paramount that's why. TBH the only reason why the pacing feels bad is because scenes and characters like Satiro are so lame or annoying. Certain events and characters have no depth to them other than to be something the straw hats need to deal with. If every scene and character had weight like Robin exploring the ruins or learning more about Enel. No one would be complaining about the pacing.

Touchmi

I've said it in older posts. Anyone who claims One Pace is better, is someone who didn't grow up watching or isn't caught up yet. I experienced the same drag the Gek's were having with little garden, syrup village and such. But I am caught up now, and 1100 episodes isn't enough, weekly watching is a curse. And I had to start rewatching One Piece again or watch reactors have their first watches to fill the void catching up created. I'm personally not hating One Pace or at least im not trying too with my comments, but the missing context from the fat trimming kind of puts a bad taste in my mouth at the same time.

Touchmi

You dont like the afro?

Touchmi

They didnt start One Pace til Jaya.

Touchmi

Dude they already experienced One Pace its too late for them. If they couldn't handle the pacing at the start, going back to it is going to be dreadful for them, Brig and Mckay would probably even just stop being apart of the One Piece reactions. They're basically stuck watching One Pace all the way through, cause the 600-700s and the 900s are 100 times worse in pacing than anything pre time skip.

Touchmi

I think hes trying to hint at the recent reveals in the manga.

Touchmi

They're stuck watching One Pace til they catch up. They were already struggling before switching, theres no way they could handle the original pacing now that theyve experienced one pace.

Touchmi

I feel like this One Piece vs One Pace debate is ruining the Gek's experience, and maybe even boil to the point that they stop reacting to the show all together. Either Brig and Mckay and sometimes Connor are dreading watching. Or Jack and Carter are bummed out because they're not experiencing the way it was meant to be watched. I hope Im wrong but that's just the vibe Im getting.

Touchmi

FMI through Zou, so basically entire post time skip lol. You didnt think there was too much red bean soup flashbacks in the 900 episodes? lmao.

Riksu

I understand the desire to use One Pace to shorten the watch time and make some of the more egregious directional choices more digestible. But once you catch up I promise you will wish there were more episodes, and you will wish you hadn’t rushed through it ”just to get to the good part”. One Piece is about the adventure, not the destination.

Dale Cooper

The whole point of One Pace is to match the manga. The anime HAD to us filler to let the manga build up enough so it could keep adapting it. Might some of it be good? Sure, but it's not what they would get if they read the actual source.

Zess

But even one pace isn't showing only manga images lol an anime is called an adaptation for a reason. They're adapting a comic to an animated form, which requires changes to be able to do that. Otherwise you're watching still images with no voice and music i.e the manga.

Sandi uchiha

Nah I don’t think it’s that serious.

Matt Haloostock

I think the next smaller arc definitely needs One Pace. TBH, if it was up to me, I would just say watch the first couple episodes of it and then the last few, effectively skipping the middle. Maybe I'm crazy for that take but it's really how I feel. The next major arc though does not need One Pace though. One Pace tries to break it down into two smaller arcs but it is really the same arc. To compare though, on crunchyroll, it would would be about 75 episodes instead of 45 that One Pace offers, but they also some have some episodes that are longer in length. Also, the anime starts making longer intros and recaps at the start and while still having closing songs and previews at the end, leaving less room for actual story in each episode (maybe there is only 15 min of new stuff out of the 22 min or whatever). My point is that I don't think One Pace actually cuts out 30 episodes of content (40% of the arc) from the OG. It's hard to know for sure without adding each episode and comparing the two. I'm like Carter though - I prefer the unedited content. I would also hate to see you guys rush through a good arc like the next major one.

GreetswithJudgement

I don’t think you have to worry about a thing. The Geks will never drop One Piece and the friction is between the fans of OP not the Geks.

ahmad

The point is that Toei stretched out scenes across the series because the anime caught up to the manga. One Pace reduces those stretches, their goals are to edit the anime to follow the manga more faithfully, while maintaining the flow of animation. Yeah it's not perfect so there will be some noticeable edits, but it's pretty exceptional overall.

Saki 🏴‍☠️✨❤️‍🔥

@Touchmi I can see that! I feel that's often the case, particularly with more recent viewers, though I'm sure there's probably some who grew up with it also that could still say otherwise lol - and oh gosh yeah, I never kept with weekly viewing so much as reading. I also agree with the last, seeing as I'd rather control my own viewing experience rather than having it edited down for me, but I can see how the ways that I'd view it (binging + skipping through the recaps and flashbacks that I remember clearly) may not be as ideal for a reaction format

ahmad

they'll complain about pacing at times for sure, but i don't think it'll make them stop watching lol. it ain't that deep

ahmad

Ya even the beloved arcs have poor pacing. Not poor enough to call One Pace mandatory, but it's just straight up a better experience to use it.

ahmad

@Touchmi That's not really something that you can generalize. I loved watching the show weekly while growing up and dropped it when the pacing got really bad. One Pace is what brought me back into the anime a few years later, otherwise I probably would've just read the manga. Now I've recommended One Pace to multiple friends and they have all loved it from the start to end. An important thing to note is that the Geks have already complained about pacing (from Arabasta), so that's mainly the reason (atleast for me) that these discussions have been taking place. Just want the Geks to have the best experience possible.

ahmad

+1 these discussions are just looping over and over.. with the same points being made. Polls would be great

Michael H

@Tom I’ve seen the show multiple times, seen One Pace, and read the manga. I agree that One Pace is good and totally a valid option if they want to go that route—I wouldn’t be upset by the choice at all. It’s definitely not necessary yet, though, if they have reservations about it. Plenty of reaction channels watch 4-6 episodes a week on the original and have a great experience. It doesn’t matter what the episode to chapter ratio is as long as the episodes are enjoyable is the bottom line. My only point is that the claims that the original is borderline unwatchable this early in the series are incredibly overblown.

Brig Andrus

As a Naruto fan, pacing doesn’t really affect me as much as it does other Geks. Although I prefer pacing to be good and I don’t understand why these two goated anime’s (Naruto and one piece) decided to have such garbage pacing.

kuza

YOU dont*

A

@Touchmi i’ve read a bunch of your comments on this post and just wanted to say i agree with so much of what you’re saying. i’ve been watching one piece for literally 21 years, and i still wish there were more; i’ve subscribed to watch our friends the Geks watch it over again because it is such an incredible epic story (and i mean that in the full literary sense of the term) that i still cannot get enough of it. i really do think it’s okay to sit with some boring moments and cultivate a patience for them, let your mind kind of engage and fill in those spaces, because the alternative can be jarring (though yes, One Pace seems okay for now—i’ve never seen it before and never would watch the show that way myself, even if i had to do it all over again knowing what the pacing is like at its best and worst points), and because the ride is what it’s all about. i do think this is one of the greatest stories ever told and i that the exciting moments that people who’ve never watched it have already heard about will be well worth the wait; so i think while there are exceptional cases (the bridge arc in naruto and THAT one scene in wano come to mind), generally we should try to react to a feeling of impatience by adjusting our expectations, soothing our minds, and finding ways to enjoy a thing for what it is. i think all of our attention spans are cooked and it’s why there are so many cuts in movies now that you feel disoriented trying to track action sequences, and the consequence is that the greater artistry of some older films becomes harder to appreciate because on the face of it, they *seem* “boring”. so there’s really a retraining of the mind that’s required here to counteract the effects of our phones/feeds etc. But if anything merits that kind of mental effort, it is One Piece :) Unfortunately, more recent animes cater to that kind of spectacular animation (and that’s awesome in its own right) but they’re not terribly interesting from a narrative or substantive perspective.

Touchmi

I cant speak for Naruto. But in Japan, One Piece has been airing every week on Sunday morning (sat night for us) for, I think, 25yrs without taking a single break until 6 months ago for the first time. And they don't do replays on network TV in Japan either, which is why there's a lot of flash backs and recaps in the episodes. Toei chooses to slow down the pacing to keep having episode air every week, without catching up the Manga or having tons of filler like Naruto. One Piece only has about 10% of filler arcs out of its 1100 episodes compared to Naruto's, which is like 43% out of 800 something episodes.

A

Carter is right!!! and there’s no such thing as a “mid” arc or a “top” arc in One Piece, especially when you keep in mind the way that everything is woven together as the story goes on. just go in for the traditional experience and bear with the slower moments, because the highs are all that much higher for it. this is not something you’ll want to have rushed, trust. like i said elsewhere, i’ve been watching and reading One Piece for 21 YEARS. i wouldn’t take a second of it back and if i had to do it all over again knowing what i know about the pacing, i’d still watch it the way it was released (once the pacing reaches the point where the first fiveish minutes of each episode is recap, i start skipping to the title card, but that’s just on binges).

A

man, idk if y’all will ever watch Gintama (it’s easily one of the funniest shows i’ve seen and i’m including live actions), but you could look up a clip on youtube “Gintama explains filler” that captures why this happens hahah i remember watching the Naruto bridge arc on toonami back in the day and it was excruciating lol really glad you’re liking One Piece! :)

Aokiji Piece🧊

Geks, the One Pace vs Toei’s One Piece debate will never stop in these comments, and I agree with people saying you should do a poll every arc to see which people prefer. But maybe you guys want to decide for yourselves, and that’s why you might not want to do polls, which I respect. It’s your guys' journey, and you should watch it how you think is the best way. Everyone here in the comments thinks differently about what the best journey for you guys is. So at the end of the day, you can decide for yourselves, or you can see what people prefer in polls if you do them. Or you can do both; most of us will still be here for the whole journey, either way.

Sid

As a purist, I'm with Carter

CoLdBITeR

Cannon: his power is lit Yes, yes it is indeed bright.

CoLdBITeR

The manga is actually amazing. I read the manga first and it is sooo good. The pacing, the scenes. It's only missing the music obviously, but personally I am not in awe with one piece anime music, so I am fine doing without.

Marcus D

I agree, but it would be good to get clear communication on the matter.

EmlovesOP

Def agree love the pfp 🫶🏽

greyxwaren

when i got into one piece there was not a 'peak arc' that the internet wouldn't stop talking about so i never felt rushed to get to that point. i would wake up one morning put on my silly pirate show and just vibe. am i eating filler this morning or am i gonna be crying? plus one pace was not as accessible as it is now, they were doing simultaneous uploads of different arcs while focusing on the arcs most affected by bad pacing. there are arcs i would recommend using one pace for since they're so ass and im seeing people even suggest you skip them (DONT SKIP WTF) but there are other arcs i recommend switching to one pace purely for the fights. for example DR was a peak arc literally 10/10 but on my first watch i literally couldn't stand the later stretch of it due to how the pacing was handled. and it can't be helped that when i was watching it it was weekly and it was the longest arc so far at that time so it felt like it dragged for so long for my liking and left a bitter after taste whenever i thought of it. it only was after i watched along to my sister's journey where she used one pace for most of it that i came around to the arc. I understand wanting to watch it the pure way, but as someone who struggled weekly i wouldn't want that for you. not to mention if you think about it, the "pure and organic" is the manga so as long as one pace keeps following the manga and they don't remove key moments i say why not.

greyxwaren

oh and i heard someone say before something about their recent uploads to the most recent arcs and how they are going about it. lil no spoiler context, old one piece pacing issues would sometimes stretch events like fighting walking around and stuff but recent one piece episodes they add anime canon scenes with really cool compositions and animation styles like it's pretty to look at. people were warning people against one pace because you WOULD be missing out on cool stuff. but i heard someone mention how one pace people expressed how they gauge what to cut now and what to keep and all those cool anime canon shots do stay in the episodes. (i went to a specific WN episode to check and they did keep a non canon scene in) they have been doing that since the beginning though with luffy's song for example

Murasaki

Gintama is so hilarious I love it’s sarcastic humor. What’s more funny is that the clip is used to waste time in that episode. A filler to explain fillers. Its the king of fillers. I remember one episode just still image and only the VA talking. Only Gintama anime dare to do that.

Marcus D

Love your perspective. But just on the pure/organic topic, a large amount of people love one piece from experiencing it in the anime normally first, before the manga or one pace. Dare I say the majority of the hype for one piece comes from these fans. So in this perspective Carter is not wrong in saying the regular anime is the pure and organic way, because that’s where the majority of fans’ love for the show begins. After all this is an anime reaction channel, not a manga one. Regular Toei one piece is the pure and organic way to *watch* one piece.

Marcus D

As for the matter of one pace x non canon scenes. They do add some non canon ones in but tits at the discretion of the one pace team. There are multiple cool actions scenes they have still left out, from WN and WCI. Also some of the non canon scenes that are in now weren’t there at first but put in at behest of fans after many complaints. So when it comes to WN that’s chock full of those sort of non canon scenes, I say the geks should just watch the whole arc raw.

Murasaki

Nah Marcus many fans love One Piece bcs of manga. A lot of ppl dropped One Piece bcs of bad pacing during skypiea. If pacing is good Toei would not redo their FMI and Wit will have no motivation to remake the whole series. Btw the remake will be less than 400 episodes so guess how stretched the Toei version is. I like your passion for OP anime but let’s just be realistic. I won’t recommend One Pace for other channels but only for this channel. Idk if you have watched their other reactions like HxH. The biggest concern on pacing is not just bcs these guys especially Carter is too sensitive to pacing, but that I feel he would overlook and miss details and dialogues when he is stuck with the pacing issue. This is what happened in the Chimera Ant arc that ppl complain they miss details. As we all know One Piece is outstanding especially bcs of story and lore so I hope this will not happen again. Like Rice and Ginger they watch too many shows and don’t even remember Ace is from whitbeard crew and is chasing Blackbeard. Their OP reaction then sucks. Imagine Geks watch 4 episodes a week during DR or WN, they will forget a lot of things bcs of the dragging and also considering they watch multiple shows as Rice and Ginger.

Amare D.

this was me I dropped one piece in the future arcs because the pacing and animation was ass, I would not recommend one-piece unless manga one pace or the remake but still thank you Toei for the one piece anime.

Amare D.

btw pre ts was amazing the ts was straight ass with pacing now in the current arcs the anime is 100 times better did you get my pun

Vict0

I agree Neant, "the majority of the hype for one piece comes from these fans" is speculation based on his viewpoint. Most of my friends that are die hard fans of One Piece have been caught up for years and read the scans weekly. They always complain about the anime messing panels from the manga and having pacing issues. I get that many people that watched the original anime at their own pace feel nostalgic, but it doesn't mean that it's the best way to watch every arcs of OP. Imo especially for the Geks that are really sensitive to pacing.

Amy M

I agree with you, once you are caught up you will wish you had more episodes to watch! I went back to watch the fillers I skipped so I could have more time with the characters even if they weren't cannon.

Amy M

Totally agree, i wonder if most of the complaints about pacing come from people who were watching 1 a week? I've seen other reactors watch without one pace & they always get comments about how much better the arc was on rewatch. I think it has to do with how many they are watching a week. I rarely noticed pacing issues bc I was watching 4 eps a day.

greyxwaren

if i could go back in time i would choose one pace in a heartbeat for certain arcs (you know which ones) but marcus i also disagree once again on the fact that majority of OP fans were anime fans. the reason the episode titles are spoilery and the reason the show sneak peaks of what’s gonna happen in an episode in the opening is for manga fans believe it or not. me and my 2 brothers switched to manga once we caught up long time ago and we like pile episodes to binge in one go. we base when to start binging based on the title episodes, for example if the episodes says “sanji finally hits a women” we binge till there. if im not mistaken readership is higher than viewership in japan. i know it is not a manga channel but having a fan effort such as one pace that are delivering anime content that is faithful to the manga AND keeps cool interactions then i dont see why not. what you have left of the “organic” experience is just the bad pacing. im fine with whatever they end up doing tbh i usually watch their reactions while playing ffxiv in the background so it doesn’t matter to me lol but if they are going to complain about how pacing and have it affect their rankings why put up through the misery? genuinely was sad seeing how so many elements in alabasta was ruined for them bcs of pacing issues bcs its a peak arc :/ also didn’t know they fix their uploads based on criticism that’s really cool :)

A

yes hahahah man, i really hope they watch it some day

Nicholas R. Gonzales

The problem with swiching away from one pace for the good arcs is that the pacing only gets worse from here. Alabasta is considered a good arc (maybe not peak but still good) and yet there were major pacing issues noticed by the couch. The arcs will get better as the story goes on, but the pacing will no exaggeration get twice as bad as it was in alabasta. So sticking with one pace long term is likely ideal.

Nicholas R. Gonzales

As for it not being the “traditional” experience, you’d be surprised how many people watched one pace rather than the normal anime, not to mention how many people switched to the manga part way through watching the anime because the pacing became unbearable. Let’s not forget theres a reason they are doing a remake of the anime with a new studio while the original anime is still airing. Plus even the original studio is going back and re-editing older arcs to match the manga, just like one pace did. Even the anime creators agree the pacing is atrocious and needs to be re-edited.

Benjamin Knock

DR is honestly the only arc that needs it, maybe The 2 arca before it and the first half of wano, but really unless they plan on reading the manga itself, watching it as it was presented to the public is the best way to view it, if its boring and slow then thats a problem with the show and it should be affecting their opinions.

Marcus D

@Neant, I never said there wasn’t a lot of who people who loved one piece through the manga and yes sure I’m sure there’s people who dropped the anime for better pacing in the manga but both are not the majority. The majority pf the love comes from the anime, don’t even try and mislead people lol. I get Toei pacing is annoying but the downplay and over-hate for the original anime has to stop.

Marcus D

Sarafian, you just made a very specific and incorrect interpretation of my statement. I said the majority of the comes from watching the anime first, many people including myself go on to read new manga chapters to get as much of the new story as fast as possible becusse we love one piece, not because we like the anime less. You ask a bunch of people what medium di they use to catch up on one piece, and the majority will say the anime. Of course people will read the manga and illegal scans first over the anime, people want one piece asap. I never said the anime is the best way to experience it, I said the majority of fans who loved one piece, experienced it the original anime way first. it is the pure and organic way to watch, that’s just a fact.. It seemed like you chose to find whatever meaning you wanted from my comment, ignoring what was written that didn’t fit your agenda.😂. Carter wants to experience his first time with one piece the same way most people who highly praise it did. That was the whole point of my first comment.

Marcus D

Wow it really seems like a bunch of people misunderstood me. @greyxwaren I never said most people prefer the anime over the manga, all though I’m sure there are a lot who do. I said the majority people’s love for one piece came from watching the original anime as their first experience of one piece. You guys referencing the fact of many people transitioning and preferring the manga over the anime doesn’t detract from my point of most people finding their love for one piece through the original anime first. That is my point.

greyxwaren

marcus i got exactly what you and carter are saying. wanting the full one piece experience the way a lot of people got to watch it weekly, bad pacing and all. im saying it's not a carter only channel it's a full couch of anime haters and bad pacing haters. as they say the majority rules, and from the looks of it, they seem to prefer this type of viewing based on the comments that said they used to hate skypiea having watched it normally and changed their minds after watching the one pace version through the geks. i would still reiterate that majority of pre ts one piece DOESN'T need it and even after ts one one 2 arcs (DR AND FMI) actually need it and the 1st act of WN the rest are absolutely fine and i would go as far as to call it lazy to use one pace for the whole show

greyxwaren

i saw someone recommend one pace for W7 and EL which proved to me some of the people who champion they use one pace for the whole show just want the geks to "get to the good part asap" which is a sentiment i personally hate. there's no need to rush through the story. we got to watch the whole thing the organic way and we want more episodes, there's no need to rob the geks of that experience. i say only the most criminal arcs get the one pace treatment, the rest of the arcs should be experienced the normal organic way as you say

april 🍏

Want to cut those clouds so bad 😔

prigumon

this is my first time watching one pace and it’s honestly not bad (for this arc at least) but personally If I were to watch it again (guaranteed I will) I would still watch it the regular way. however this is me speaking as someone who grew up with it and am already very fond of the characters, the charm and the humor of one piece has which I think one pace cuts out unnecessary. but as you guys are first time watchers, I think you guys should decide arc by arc. some like the next mini arc, I would definitely recommend using one pace but the two arcs after that, I would watch the regular way.

prigumon

maybe if you guys end up being fans, you may even rewatch it eventually as most fans do at some point. and maybe you guys can watch the regular way then especially carter who seems want to watch the authentic way. promise you second watch will be even better

desolate leng

The anime sometimes restorts to stills when the were low on budget. The stills can still look good, but yeah, it’s generally a budget thing. Yeah. he mantra doesn’t pick up on people who are… knocked out hard enough, lol. There are probably some deaths, but they tend to be unclear. The stakes just don't tend to be about whether people live or die, but what kind of life they're going to have and the fate of their land/society. Since you asked: even the One Pace cut isn't 1:1 with the manga. It cuts the filler, but transitions and similar are generally kept. To be totally honest, as someone who watched the uncut anime all the way through to the end of Dressrosa and then rewatched in one pace (after also reading the manga), I wouldn't recommend ANY arc uncut. The thing is, the stretching isn't done out of love for the material and characters, or to make the story more artistic or more creatively told (unlike a lot of modern anime), it's done to stall for time. It's also not done by the original author (Oda has stated several times in his manga Q&As that he has nothing to do with the anime production except for certain rare exceptions). The result is that the original anime makes a lot of choices that on the whole makes the moments hit less hard, the jokes less funny, and the characters feel rather OOC (mostly about twice as dumb and half as strong as they should be) a lot of the time.

SlamboHamburg

One pace seems like a good option but I watched One Piece the traditional way and that's the way I would recommend it even with the filler Glad you guys are enjoying it!

Luck64

Carter is right

eru

I have never thought of Robin growing limbs reverse towards the inside. Gruesome 😱💀