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Published:
2025-07-17 19:03:02
Edited:
2025-07-17 19:03:31
Imported:
2026-06

Content

It seems like a lot of people are missing the point of the last update, please tell me why, thank you.

Comments

Hazel

I think people are just *too* excited for another host to drink a vial. They just want to rush through the story without letting it go at a natural pace.

Birbycakes

I think people think it just makes you more powerful rather than causes massive destruction no matter what. If that’s the case (ie what happened with Ava will definitely happen each time) then yeah it’d be a very bad idea to use the vial. And as far as the characters know, that’s the case. I… think. I can’t speak for others but that’s the vibe I get 😅

Hazel

I think a few readers are just too impatient and maybe have forgotten have awful and devastating it was when Ava took her vial. They might just see the vial as a power up instead of the awful weapon it is.

Mistic_Max

This is what I was thinking to. Some people wanna see the hosts go full power to much / to fast. Not to mention I think some people have maybe forgotten that ava drinking her vial was a BAD thing 😭 it messed her up phsyically and mentally for the rest of this lifetime. All they remember is "big powerful ava + action scenes"

Shwoom

Understandable, at first a couple wip+ ago I thought another vial was coming too but it made more sense when Tiny mentioned they needed to be stealthy

Mistic_Max

I think people should reread the series every now and then so they can keep fresh in mind everything thats happened so far. (Its what I like to do at least)

Shwoom

Before, I figured each vial would affect each host differently based on the personality of each demon! I wasn’t thinking about it being another mass destruction like Ava.

Omnithea

Lesson didn't sink in.

Maja

I don't get how anyone is confused. I think it's pretty clear based on how it went last time why ava would not want to use the vials again

emylisis

I do think a lot of people are joking and memeing about her drinking it, since it is such a clearly bad idea lol. There's a BABY right there, we can't be exploding the whole place. Also Ava probably cares that she killed a whole bunch of people more than the readers do, since to us those were just a bunch of Titan randos.

iiamti

This is how it feels to me too. The idea of finding out how everyone's vials pan out is exciting, but it's also so clear how traumatizing that event was for Ava. I think many of these readers need to go back and reread to refresh themselves on those events.

Miranda Rothermund

I don't get the confusion either. The vials are saved for dire moments, like life or death and while Maggie likely won't be insane with power like Wrathia on the vial like Ava was due to Tuls being a lot more chill, but now is definitely not the time. Ava roasting the HQ was pretty awesome but the vial messed her up physically and emotionally. She killed innocent people and she clearly regrets it a lot. Not to mention her vial carries a curse (not sure about the others). Ava doesn't want to repeat that ever again. I am excited to see vial!Maggie but rn Wrathia is being a beyotch

emylisis

Agreed, I don't often comment. <3 This comic is so good that I rarely have anything insightful to add in the comments, I just excitedly open the update and read it. And the tension in these last scenes is REALLY good.

Conner K

My guess is people want to see someone new drink a vial to see a cool transformation. I'm admittedly a bit guilty of this, too. Since we've only seen someone drink a potion the one time, I always assumed each potion was meant for the host of a different warrior to fully unlock their abilities and Ava went crazy because she was temporarily imbued with Wrathia's violent and wrathful temperament along with her power, but if the potions are literally just meant to imbue the drinker with berserk power, that changes everything.

ryanapplegos

I think a lot of the time folks can get hung up on the idea that there must be hidden meaning and interpretation behind every scene in a story, that the reader has a better grasp of the narrative than the characters. The protagonist will tell us exactly what's going on, exactly what her feelings are, so some readers will assume that it must be something else because they think Ava is of course always misguided and wrong. It can be frustrating watching an audience try to tear apart a message that's so bluntly written on the wall.

Doodles

Reason 1: people are excited at the hint we might see a cool new desigin/form for Maggie (it's been 84 years, the hype is built unreasonably high at this point) and we as an audience know that Maggie's demon isn't a warmongering aggro queen like Ava's, so ig it's easy to forget maybe Ava assumes all vial-powerups work like a nuke. I always imagined vial!Maggie to be less destruction-focused and more creation-based. Reason 2: When Ava's trying to explain her situation to Gil, she EXCITEDLY shows him the vial she assumes is meant for him, which very much gave me the impression she has no direct negative association with the vials, just Wrathia specifically. So to me it just looked like Ava was given a legit way out of their situation by Wrathia that did not involve her, but she somehow still made it about herself??? (i get she's going through a lot, but that's just where my head's at at this point in the story)

Jules

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ …Impatience. I like the update tho! Considering what was happening when Ava downed a vial, via Wrathia's manipulation; the slaughtring of anything in her warpath soon after; being later told she is cursed for lifetimes… Now once again Wrathia is taking advantage of Ava's desperation. I don't blame Ava for not wanting to use any vial again. Time is against them and is running out… FAST.😬

Birbycakes

Also these updates got me on EDGE I want the gang to get out of this okay and I think the pressure and wanting it to get resolved is another part of it. I legit had a dream where after Ava got that cut on her hand she freaked out and blasted the wall and caused attention so they all had to book it through. The tension is Real and seeing Ava cry like that is breaking my heart. She was so confident too 😭 I just want something to work out for herrrr

Rainsets

Several things! Excitement, diverse age group, and general reading comprehension as well as other factors. It’s like a cameo of a favorite character being flashed on screen

JOVEN CANGREJO

Hi Michelle! When the updates where the first vial was used in December 2014 I remember seeing a lot of people both in the AD forum and tumblr reaching the conclusion that the vials were one for each host and a sort of... magical girl upgrade of sorts. Kind of a Power Rangers-style transformation tailored for each of the seven main lifeforms. Over the years I feel like this has been the prevalescent perception of the vials and the vast majority of people don't understand that the vials are more closely related narratively to an hydrogen bomb than a kawaii anime transformation. On an average day I would say "that's just how the audience can be!", but I think the update so far (at least according to the dialogue in the previous post) make it very clear that the vials aren't your average magical upgrade but a weapon of devastating evisceration. I think the update so far is good and should spell it out clearly for readers who haven't gotten the idea of how dangerous those potions can be. TLDR: I think you're doing good and narratively the dialogue should correct the average reader!

Michelle Fus

The idea is that like a bad parent, the only solution Wrathia could give Ava in that moment was a destructive one, and not what she needed when it matters most.

Michelle Fus

Thank you so much Joven!! You're a real one

Nualie

There’s a metaphorical lock with a tight timing and then a metaphorical bad news “only use in case of desperate emergency” key is brandished. So it feels like the “obvious” answer is to drink the bad news potion and deal with the consequences, while I wouldn’t be shocked by a better option it is kind of in your face “look at the destructive path you may need to take because you’re at your wits’ ends” key dangling in front of Ava and Maggie

Nualie

Oh I did understand that it’s not a GOOD solution that Wrathia is giving right now. What Ava needs most right now is like… a metal saw, or maybe sympathy from the people who gave her a 5 minutes deadline, but that doesn’t seem to be on the table, while a vial has just been set down in front of her. A bad idea for sure, but the vials do seem to be desperate measures for desperate times after all.

Tasha Harris

I meant no disrespect!! 😣 I was moreso memeing on the idea *knowing* they're not going to drink the vials, and also since we don't/didn't know that ALL the vials are specifically "turn you into a weapon of mass destruction" juice, I'd kind of pictured Tuls' vial giving strength or being in tune with nature, but definitely more chill like he is, and from that my brain turned it into a bunch of meme-y, hypothetical crack situations like Ava going "Psh I did it once, I can handle this" *proceeds to not be able to handle it* (my friend and I joke constantly about the idea of Ava drinking all the potions herself like that vine where the guy puts all the fountain drink types into one cup), or Ava being so done with Wrathia's shit that she just pours out the vial and wacky nature shit busts down the gate

JOVEN CANGREJO

My pleasure! I do believe this incoming update should clear out any confusion for the "vials are powerups for each host" gang and paint the destructiveness of them more clearly. Take care!! xx

Devin

Modern audiences have become accustomed to watching every story on fast forward whether they know it or not. In a world of instant gratification in stories people just aren’t used to a more methodical/patient approach. Maybe it’s better to view people as being eager to see it happen, but you know take it with a grain of salt. You know how to shape the story best and a devoted audience gets rewarded with the increasingly rare opportunity to see pacing done well!

TrollkaRuby

I kinda assumed Maggie's vial wouldn't have the same destructive explosion as Ava's? I imagined that wrath vial -> hellfire destruction and lust vial -> perhaps making the fallen gigantic tree burst with new life, which would of course wreak havoc too, but in a different way. Also I would like to say I didnt understand what were your intentions about Wrathia, before I read the big text update message. I interpreted her as more of an evil fey queen, and didnt pick up on the theme of bad parenting. That previous interpretation is 100% not your fault. Your feelings put into your creation must be respected. It is just still a bit hard to shake that wrong image I had (it's been here in my head for years after all), so that is on me. That means your comic has teached me a new thing or two about empathy! Thank you for your incredible, hard work, you are a true artist moving hearts. ♥