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Fireside Chat for LEVELING UP (3 to 4) (Patreon)

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2024-10-03 09:00:06
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2024-11-21 21:54:31
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You "game heads" might know that the software we use to run the show is called "Dungeon and Dragon." Welp, it's time for a software update in the form of LEVELING UP. So save your documents, reach around the back of the show, filp the power switch to off, then on again, pour yourself a nice hot coffee and join us in fellowship as the show makes a bunch of weird groaning sounds, flickers, and restarts, somehow even better than before.

 

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BigMomma

I’m gonna cry I’m so excited

Pauraic

LETS GOOO

Sven the Scribe

Was not expecting this thicc a level up 'sode

Braeden N.

So your telling me the entire time our true friends were dancing with death in the North Pole they were only level 3?! Wild

ngaire

just in time for my night shift, thank you!!!!

The Wizard Sea

Wooooo one plus of working nights is getting these immediately

Alessandro Chiappetta

I had not yes listened, so maybe you're going to say it there but, are you going to update the characters with the 5.5?

Just a Fox

I, for one, can't wait to see what homebrew oath Brennan and Lou come up with for Eursalon. Your homebrew classes have been fire so far, you're going to knock it out of the park.

KinzokuRa

Given the homebrew backgrounds for Suvi and Ame, I think it is only appropriate for Ursalon to have a HB Oath!! I LOVE THIS STORY SO MUCH!!!

shining oak

He IS the best beefy boy!

David

"Butts!"

Thimo The Fool

Absolutely delectable description for thos <3

Avery Guyer

I didnt realize how much I would love hearing these titans of ttrpg become absolute stat goblins!!!

Nathan Armstrong

I love stat talk even when it’s not with four of my very favorite actual play peeps. Gimme dat crunch!

Patrick Massey

Truly the beefiest level up so far. Y’all are putting my $5 a month to WERK

The Wizard Stressed

"my claws look like this so their staves can look like this" made me nearly spit-take my soup utterly unexpected line for 1 am soup chill time, tho idk why I didn't expect it is y'all.

Ryan L.

Yay! needed this this week ☺️🎉

Udoka

Re. Ben Whishaw, he's very good in the west end run of Waiting for Godot if there are any Londoners listening

The Pompous Peasant

Levling up n games like the one were u cango but not to fast lolol;lol you will get down and then may feel teh stink and what if teh whorenast shows up!!!!!

Ben Fogle

Oath of the Wayshadow?

Kael McDonald

Completely unrelated but this is the latest post and I need my fellow WBN fans to know that the fox in The Wild Robot has INCREDIBLE vibes for those of us that know and love Brennan's Fox. The movie stands in it's own of course but damn is it an extra special treat if you have Umora brainrot like I do.

Elizabeth Boskey

"my immediate instinct is to say no, just based on your facial expression" never have I loved both Aabria and Brennan Moore

Elizabeth Boskey

Oath of the Saviour/Rescuer/protector is where my brain was going. Although my first thought was oath of friendship.

Jordan Marschke

Am I missing it or is Secret of Discovery not on the playtest doc for the citadel wizard?

Martin Cahill

Definitely feeling Oath of Freedom, my home-brew brain is already abuzz if that's the direction we're headed!

CommodoreBlue

Feat from Planescape?!? Does that mean anyone has the Planescape backgrounds, like Gate Warden? Also, if Suvi wants healing so much, she should take Wither and Bloom

Heliks

Chef is REALLY good! If the powers that be are listening, there's a homebrew Chef feat that Erika might be interested in. It's on DND beyond and it gives some lateral expansion to the feat, were the food you prepare can have different effects.

Shelby Welby

Cannot state how much I love these level up episodes

Urban Soul

The gang is leveling up? It's been 20 years...

oToastTv

Can we get trad husband Eursulon on a shirt? 😂

Lax

I thought it was “reroll all ones and you have one lifetime reroll otherwise,” but the drama it created was so juicy idc

Matthew Maddock

I think Lou / Eursulon should think about an Oath of Liberty which also encompasses a kind of political anarchist ethos. Like, Eursulon has had multiple opportunities to just become a part of a larger thing - he could have stayed a spirit with his father, could have joined The Stranger, could have joined the Antivalist and instead he chooses his own path. He also cares *so much* about the emancipation of his spirit brethren, so the idea of freeing others should be part of it. And then the nature of quest fever to me, at least, feels like the moral fever of anarchism as I feel it - that suddenly something is so clearly necessary to do you choose to do it in that moment. So yeah, an Oath of Liberty: personal freedom to not necessarily be part of a larger structure, a desire to free those in captivity, and a moral urge to act when presented with either injustice or something of clear important to Eursulon as an individual.

Ron Ron

I need Erika and Taylor anx Aabria to do the Dune song!

Britt Anderson

YES! I was thinking about WBN’s Fox the whole movie!

Bob Chapman

Aabria calling the chapter "three sleeps" when her character DIDN'T...

Tyler Chapman

I kinda hope they homebrew something dope so we can get another subclass. Maybe the "Oath of Free Spirit", if that's not too on the nose.

Tyler Chapman

I'm so excited/frightened for the next level up. Suvi w/fireball? Big oof.

Urban Soul

For some reason, "Oath of the Way-Shadowed" is standing out to me for Eursulon. I've seen people talk about how much he cares about freeing spirits or freedom in general, and while I do think those things are true, I do also believe that these things are true for the MOMENT. Eursulon's current path leads him to freeing whatever spirits may be imprisoned and of course he cares about his own personal agency and autonomy, but he is also seeking "honor" and figuring out what that word means to him and his purpose in the life he now has. That's where the idea of "Oath of the Way-Shadowed" comes in. Eursulon is a man of two worlds, a spirit that unknowingly anchored himself to the material world only to find things and people from that world to stay and fight for. But at the same time, he has not forgotten his roots and would call any spirit he encountered kin and break bread with them if given the chance. This Oath would encompass that dichotomy. It's an oath that wouldn't call on a paladin to enforce or embody a specific ideal because it's not a path that anyone has walked before. Eursulon would be the trailblazer for others to follow behind. Oath of the Way-Shadowed would be a paladin oath that encourages others to find purpose for themselves, to be kind to both mortal and spirit, protect that which they cherish and mete out justice to those who dare chain you down.

Kodi Knight

Dragon’s Breath would be a DELIGHT to see with the fox… Aabria’s onto something

Matthew Maddock

Something that incorporates the Spirit side of things also works - I like the Oath of the Free Spirit as a name as it fulfils both the liberatory and the mystical.

Steve Underhill

@51:20 I love how you can recognize the specific tempo and dynamics of Brennan clapping.

DarkHeroZark

If I had a nickel for every Dune reference the gang made this week, i'd have 2 nickels. Which is not a lot but still weird it happened twice.

Emily Mitchell

“Silvery barbs?” “Nope.” That’s why Brennan’s my favourite DM lol

rio

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF THE GREAT ONES EURSULON NEEDS A HOMEBREW SUBCLASS 😭 YOU ALREADY MADE TWO SETTING-SPECIFIC HOMEBREWS, YOU GOTTA FINISH THE SET 😱

Britt Anderson

The need to make this into a shirt and/or mug...I...I NEED IT...

Britt Anderson

Trad Husband Eursulon - we love him so much. This Fireside is giving me SO much life, and now I wanna make some more merch spec designs

Carrie Mook Bridgman

Has anyone gone back to listen? Did Taylor use the Sir Curran music when Eursulon went to the Antivolist?

ollyollyoxfordcomma

Maybe it's just all the other comparisons to Ghibli, but something about Eursulon's position in the story feels very Ashitaka in Princess Mononoke. Walking the line between two worlds that conflict with each other, yet participating in both and loving aspects of both. Seeing with eyes unclouded by hate, evaluating all the information, and choosing for himself when to intervene on the behalf of one side or the other. I love this beefy bear so so much 💖

Sander Goldman

is lou aware that he can change his prepared spells every day?

Brandon Carbaugh

I mean look, I don't want to tell y'all how to do your jobs, but as far as Eursulon's oath: if it ain't "Oath of Honor", what are we even doin here?

Joshua Smith

Mind sliver + witch’s grasp is a great team combo just saying

CJ

I really thought this was a set up to "If it ain't Oath, don't fix it" but I haven't listened to the ep yet so I'll just hold out hope the joke is already in there

Carrie Mook Bridgman

That's what Eursulon has been so far--Protector and Guardian. Now he is starting to find his own quest, and I am waiting impatiently to see what it will be.

Ron Ron

I need a update to Fox's AC n HP! NOW!!

George Hoyle

So the secrets that Suvi currently has are ricochet, contingency, warp and weft, griffindor, discovery and twilight crown However I reread the pdf about five times and couldn’t find the secrets of griffindor and discovery could anyone else? Unless maybe they’re using one dnd rules and she simply misspoke?

Trafulger Law

Oath of Liberty? Oath of Freedom? Oath of Chainbreaker? All very stoneward core if you have read the stormlight archive

xatlern

Omg I'm planning my next level up right now, and I'm also taking Shadow Touched with Inflict Wounds! I feel like having someone so good at builds talk about the same exact feat bodes well for me and my creepy little sorcerer 🥰

George Hoyle

Remember that it’s easier to be mean and creepy but being creepy and kind is always more memorable.

xatlern

She's a wild magic sorcerer with and this will get her Charisma to 20. Sometimes she doesn't mean to be creepy, it just comes out that way 😂

Evelina Meiklejohn

Listening to the fireside feels like being in my college writing workshops again. ❤️ It feels so good to dive deep and analyze narrative and characters. You all are an absolute joy to listen to, every time.

Ian McLeland

Ok fess up, who won a bet against Brennan? Not even he says diegetic that many times on his own

thedragonllama

My first thought was Oath of Liberation for Ursalon or even Oath of Spiritual Liberation lol a bit wordy tho

Tacotrashcan

Oath of the true friend. T_T

Debato Potato

No one tell Lou that the average is 5.5

Reid Bathgate

I need to introduce yall to the concept of the Box Game. This is something we do in the campaigns my friends and I run. When rolling hit dice, each player can, if they don't like their result, they can take what's in the box. If they take the box, the DM rolls another hit dice and the player MUST take the second result. There is also the IMPROVED Box Game, designed to tempt players who roll the average. In the improved version, the DM rolls a dice one face higher. So if a Wizard rolls a D6, the DM uses a digital app to roll a D7. To make it just a bit more tempting. We love it. When the Box rolls high, it's great! When it rolls low, its hilarious! And then every once in a while a player rolls a 2 and the box rolls a 1, and we tell that story the whole campaign.

DefyAllLogic

What does it mean when they say they are At Camp?

Sil

They take a weekend away to record, I believe in California

Blades Dragonic

Honest I think Oath of Honour could work, relates to both him being and “Honoured Friend” and his Quest for Honour

Blades Dragonic

Literally exact same name popped into my head while listening to the episode ❤️

Eleventh Hour Panic Productions

I've only fairly recently encountered that word *at all*, and even more recently mostly assimilated its meaning, so now, a) I'm particularly aware of it when I happen across it, and b) this episode is doing an excellent job of cementing it in my lexicon so I don't even have to have that split second of going "wait, what does that mean? oh yeah, it means [x]." Yay new vocabulary!

Dan Durektor

I'd love to see a WBN take on an Oath of Honor subclass

Erik Hanson

Eursalon wants to swear the Oath of the Beefy Boy.

a dreck

First noun that comes to mind for Eursulon is Oath of Liberation!

AliceH

Same! Was beginning to think I imagined it 😆 but ✨️THE DRAMA✨️ here can't be beat ❤️‍🔥

Rebecca Coburn

I love how you use the story to make level up decisions, it makes my story teller heart happy. Love you guys, keep rockin' it. Can't wait for Arc 4! ❤️

LFleming221

“I think that the highest levels of brilliance require the questioning mind.” BLeeM—certified Real One

Telly Cruz

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Conor Robson

Did I mishear or did Lou forget to add his Con Mod on level up, he was 28, he rolled a 6 and then went to 34 instead of 37.

Shavonne

I caught that Michael in the bathroom reference Ericka 😭 lol this pod

Bo Schwartz Madsen

And actually higher than that, because they get one reroll 😅

One Punch Max

I don't get leveling for hitpoints and stats. I never played D&D myself, only ever watched/listened to it and this series was the first time I witnessed these mechanics. I always assumed it would be like in Baldur's Gate 3 where you simply have a set pool of points that you distribute the way you want and your class allows.

Marley McDonough

For Eursolon, I feel like oath of protection is close but I would also like to propose a homebrew class called oath of brotherhood. I don’t have it made but I think it would be rad as hell.

Daisy

i want to hear the entire rant i could hear in Brennan's tone when he just said "no" to Silvery Barbs.

Brovura

I know a guy who survived two hit attempts and his wisdom stat is very low.

Storyswarm

I'm sure that you have already started working on a homebrew option for Eursulon, but I got inspired hearing you all talking about the level up and how you were considering the oath and decided to put my amateur game design skills to use and made this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YE-ZwmtR0uFCeXGIGl0XnZsENeCWQxEiyV2xshcrJ5w/edit?usp=sharing (It does use the 2014 Paladin rules, so might need some adjustment if you're using the 2024 rules.) Loving the show so far, very hyped for Arc 4!

Matt Mayhem

He rolled a three first time round which became a 6 due to his +3 con

The Wizard Sparrow

I really like the music at the end, very festival and uplifting kind of want to dance to it

The Wizard Sparrow

Ame’s foxhole spell sounds rad. But yes! The Fox needs to level up. Fancy foot, pretty paws…okay now I’m just having fun😂😂🦊

The Wizard Sparrow

Lots of good word combinations for for oath as I scroll down but what if we shake it up, twist it upside and try … Ode of Oath .. (an ode comes from ancient Greece; elaborately structured poems praising or glorifying an event or individual, describing nature intellectually as well as emotionally) the Ode of Oath could be made up of interchangeable characteristics: whispering winds, intertwined vines, ….ugh…road block🤔

Bugbear

Screaming and shaking the bars of my enclosure shouting "PALADINS DON'T 'KNOW' SPELLS THEY PREPARE THEM"

Ren Dara

this is so dope!

Ren Dara

Agree! All about the unfolding path, the first example I had for balancing righteousness with collective autonomy in a hero

Ren Dara

That’s beautiful! I’m hoping for something that includes potentiality too. Like oath of the unfolding path? Something like that, so the only way he could break it is by making a choice that goes against his instinct. I think, so far his big story beats seem to illuminate new paths within the trajectory of Great Spirits he’s engaged with in Umora just by being true to himself. Each unfolding hinged on him listening to his instincts and his reactions to those choices felt so spiritual and so like a young God. 💫 The choices he’s made feel like his heart sits beyond the reality of oppression, borders and conquest that every being in/affected by Umora exists within. At least that’s how his scenes hit me. I can’t help wanting to resist an oath that is set within that paradigm the same way I wish for it irl 😂 But yeah if the new path is the way-shadowed one, like if bridging worlds was a path that existed before exploitation necessitated restriction and obfuscation, I dig that heavy. How you described the path between got me so hype. I can’t wait to see where Eursolon goes and whatever they create for his oath.🧝🏼‍♂️

The Wizard Sprig

“Oath of Will/The Willful” or “Oath of Determination” come to mind as appropriate possibilities for the strongest man in Silbree

Stefanucci Mozzarella

Oath of the “Love me sum-uda pizza pie” covered in-uda home brew sauce ¡Gratzi a mille Lou & Brennando!

Amy Baker

For some reason this episode won’t play for me? I get a notification that says ‘Something went wrong’, can I get some technical assistance?

Muadwho

So Suvi learns to Inflict Wounds after meeting Injury... Checks out!

Ellie Skiffington

The parallel of Suvi taking shadow touched and Ame taking fey touched is so good

Cian

Now I listen to every podcast all the way through to the end, because I have Suvi levels of trust that I'll miss post-credits again 💀 but the ADHD, it's like dragging nails down a brain blackboard 😅

George Hoyle

Theirs three main systems for stats with tons of variants. But the ones to know are point buying, point assigning, and 4d6 drop the lowest. Brennan does a variant where stats are 5d6 drop the two lowest, also for health you can choose to take the average but where is the fun in that.

Jordan Jones

Ursalan now has one step for each of his TWO feet. The pattern continues

Robert B

Thank you! I’ve heard various folks in the TTRPG space get the averages on all the polyhedrals wrong over and over again for YEARS. Drives the math nerd in me crazy.

Thomas Hegarty

I would love to see Ursalon’s oath be something like oath of justice or oath of the defender. Something to reflect on his ideology of being there for those who need him or can’t stand up for themselves. He holds his own morality aside from structural establishments which I think is noble and key to his character

Imogen Xavier

this feels like the obvious choice, right??

Imogen Xavier

Oath of Honor is just such a sick name PLEASE

Imogen Xavier

respect for saying No to silvery barbs lmao

Zach Ridenour

Ursalon should take oath of the crown but rather than serving a king he serves his true friends

yimyams

spitballing: oath of valor, oath of liberation, oath of joy, oath of freedom. i forgot what Brennan described the parade of the family of the Great Bear but maybe there is something there too

Conor Steinke

Diegetic: adjective, occurring within the context of the story and able to be heard by the characters

d0gkn1ght

I like the idea of Oath of the Hero; it sounds classic and really makes the knight part shine. Oath of Freedom (as yimyams has said) is also beautiful, it reflects so much of eursulon's journey so far and what he truly believes in. Also an oath of freedom really resonates with remove curse, misty step, and having the strength to break what holds you back and protect those around you. Dimension Door would also feel good, to yoink someone from danger if need be.

Abigail W

Listening to a pro level up sessions has inspired so much creativity in my home game. Our DM has really taken to holding off on things to honor the story, homebrewing subclasses, and allowing certain rerolls.

Emmmmok

For Eursolon I have in mind something like an Oath of Alignment/Clarity/Unity. Where we see his breath and quest fully intertwined to realize his power. I'm thinking spells like 'Sanctuary' always being prepped. Or even 'Primal Savagery' to really lean into his breathe as a Wild One.

Tom

Oath of the errant maybe?

Pres Brown

Oath of Emancipation. Also isn’t 34 HP the exact average for 4d10+12??

SapphoDyl

I think her saying "griffindor" was a joke - just Aabria being a lil silly. Shortly after she brings it up, I believe Brennan reads the actual name from the pdf. Sorry, I don't recall exactly what it was

Theo Vařák

You get max HP at lvl 1 so it should be 3d10 + 22 which is 37. Still only a bit under average though.

Theo Vařák

Loving every comment here spelling Eursulon wrong in a different way 😭

Theo Vařák

The bulwark between worlds is such a cool ability

Danielle Hood

If you're homebrewing for Eursulon, how about calling it Oath of the Honorable Friend?

Michael McNamara

Oath of the Strongest Man in Silbury. Edicts: Must always introduce self as 'The Strongest Man in Silbury'. Anathema: Must never turn down a chance to demonstrate a feat of strength.

Michael McNamara

Edict 2: Must always fail feats of strength if they have just introduced themselves.

Nep Nep

That is the first time I've heard the snakes don't have hands thing and I'm trying to my hardest to not laugh like a madman in my office

Saleibriel

"My claws look like this so their staves can look like this" xD

AL2VAR .

Suvi should totally be proficient at deception.

The Wizard Spwerm

I find it beautiful that the relationship between Suvi and Ame is complimented in the mechanics of the choice of feats (observant) and spells (identify) 🥹

DiamondPWrites

Listening to this AFTER Eursulon takes his oath has me 😭😭😭😭

Witch of the Warren of Words

Brennan: What's your constitution bonus? Aabria, laughing so hard she coughs half of her lung out: +2

CommodoreBlue

The origin of the Inflict Wounds hits so different now

Morgan Fe

I wonder what happened with the October 1st Halloween thing they had planned on doing? I had seen the announcements that they had posted for this section of posts (2024) & it seems that it never happened.🤔

Andrea Crain

For his next level up, I need the players to give us a real life video of a movie physical training montage to earn extra hit points!