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Episode 109 [PATREON EXCLUSIVE] -- After the Hunt (Patreon)

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2025-12-02 01:42:37
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2026-09

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Hi all, so sorry that this is only coming out now -- I (Adrian) have been a little sick (which you can definitely hear in this recording), and my illness has completely messed up our workflow. So that means you're getting two episodes in rapid succession once again. This one is a much-requested discussion of Luca Guadagnino #MeToo movie After the Hunt, starring Julia Roberts as Lydia Tár, Andrew Garfield in the role of "cad", and Ayo Edebiri as "woke cardboard cutout". Quick trigger warning: we got into a long-ish discussion of tenure. Hope you like it!

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Alex

Man, I heard zero press or talk about this movie when it (apparently) came out, excited to hear your guys’ take!

Moira Donegan

We may be the only people who saw it

Ariel

The end of this vividly jolted me into the experience of lobbying for better sexual harassment and assault protocols in my religious community, which has been…fun. Literally every potential sexual assault allegation brought up as an example has been a “mistake” or a “misunderstanding” that could occur, because no one wants to contemplate that someone they know could deliberately harass members of our community. Which just isn’t great.

Nina V~

i haven't listened to it yet, but i want to say y'all don't need to apologize for being "late." you've both been so generous with your time & expertise in this labor of love. 💜 i hope you start feeling better, soon, adrian. plus, i FULLY snortlaughed at the trigger warning for academia

Colette Katsikas

Thank you! I watched this and NEEDED someone smart who would also have insight into how colleges work to talk about it for me. I understood that the “lecture” parts were for pointed illustration, but couldn’t stop thinking they would never be the topics of advanced thesis classes. Plus goddamnit that font in the beginning!

kathleen

I salute you for throwing yourselves on this metaphorical cinema grenade for us. A grateful patreonship thanks you.

kathleen

My mom got tenure at about 55. Her extended time to get there was your usual boomer lady + being a military spouse + having kids situation. While common enough, this is more interesting and realistically complex than the cancel culture fairy tale that is the campus #MeToo drama. I'm surprised Roberts was into this script. She seems more sensible.

Charley

Looking forward to this take on Guadagnino’s ill-conceived film. Just reading the synopsis is like 🤦🏼‍♀️ Not to dump on the man but I was also pretty unimpressed with Call Me By Your Name. I know it means a lot to many people, and full respect to that, but honestly I found it unconvincing too. Thankfully the gorgeous colours of the Italian countryside sort of made up for it, and the source novel was even worse imo, so he did make the best of an extremely pretentious original!

A Felt

Thank you for watching this movie so I don’t have to! My brother is a huge Guadagino fan so I’ve watched and enjoyed several of his other films but I strenuously avoided this one. “Imagine if this thing was the opposite of what it always is” perfectly encapsulates my issue with these kinds of narratives. They depict fantasy scenarios that completely invert the power dynamics of our world but are so common that people actually start to think that’s how the world works. They claim to be adding “nuance” but the nuance is almost always “what if women are Bad and Lying”.

A Shade In Shades

I've been listening to Sarah Marshall's excellent podcast The Devil You Know about the satanic panic, which I think makes an interesting counterpoint to the cinema of cancellation series. In that it highlights people who have actually been falsely accused of sexual assault. Spoiler: they're not scions of billionaires.

stella Velez

The audible sigh at the mention of the nonbinary partner made me absolutely cackle this morning. Oh the excesses of wokeness!! How frightful!

Jenny Egg

I do want to push back a little on the idea that “call me by your name” is about a pederastic relationship… I totally agree that’s what the controversy was about, the age gap between the main couple, but I don’t think it’s an accurate description of this movie or that particular dynamic between two young men. I think that film got caught up in an anti-sex culture war conversation that was ultimately rooted in homophobia. Age gap relationships are a common trope of romance writing, both characters were of a legal age of consent according to the time and setting of the movie, and in general, people get waaay more worked up about a gay age gap because of fear-mongering about gay men being pedophiles. I realize this comment is totally tangential to the main conversation, which was great! The class critique of Guadagnino feels especially fair and prescient. Thanks for a great episode!

Nick

As someone who works in a philosophy department, thank you for watching this so I don’t have to 😭 Can confirm that in general it is Not Like That, but also in particular, I am yet to meet a philosopher who dresses nearly as nattily as Julia Roberts in this movie…

Linn Leppert

Thanks for another great episode. Here is a Guadagnino film recommendation: “I am love”, which I think came out in 2010 or so. It has a lot of the tropes you mentioned that are typical for Guadagnino - Italian aristocracy, luscious views of countryside, architecture and food, family drama - but it also has Tilda Swinton and a story of motherhood, female autonomy, desire, that I found quite moving.

Alex Davis

Moria and Adrian are working towards the One Movie Theory, Michael and Peter are working towards the One Book Theory. The next frontier of podcasting is the One Unified Media Theory.

Moira Donegan

Had this thought!!!! It’s all one movie…

Moira Donegan

Have been meaning to check this out! Wha the does well he does very well …

Sam

Seconding this recommendation! Also really like his earlier film “A Bigger Splash”

Sam

Thank you so much for this episode, and for affirming my reading of Maggie’s character. It drove me fucking me mad to see how the film tries to not deal with her gender and race by making her mega rich. I also really hated how her partner’s gender non-conformity was treated. Contemptible! Also just a quick note that I’m in grad school at Yale, watched this at a special screening at Yale, and it was sheer torture!

Moira Donegan

Abolish Yale!!! (Thank you for listening)

James Talley

You two drive me nuts. I tried not to listen to this, because I'd vaguely sensed the film was garbage and along the lines of the cinema of cancel culture, but dammit, 5 minutes in, and I was hooked and totally into the episode. I almost want to watch it now to cross reference. You two have freaky weird magic powers. Never stop using them.

Grace Culhane

Thank you for this episode. The only thing I wanted to add is that I don't think the film presents both women as lying about their assaults (at least not by the end). I thought the scene with Garfield in the second apartment pretty explicitly confirmed that the ayo edibiri character was telling the truth, and I thought the scene in the hospital at the end was supposed to make it seem like Julia roberts was being abused by that man, but she couldn't admit it to herself. So much of the movie sucked so much, but it bothered me especially cause I think the premise (two women of different generations, one who represses / feigns invulnerability as a form of power) clash over the different ways to handle sexual assault could have been a really interesting premise in the hands of a more talented / maybe thoughtful writer. Anyway, loved the ep

Daniel Cardoso Llach

I forgot that I had listened to this (great) episode months ago, and inadvertently watched the movie on a plane yesterday... And yes. Horrendous. Will have to listen to the episode again as a palate cleanser.