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Episode 130 -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton (Patreon)

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2026-04-14 05:49:37
Imported:
2026-09

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For this episode, Moira walks Adrian through the life of Elizabeth Cady Stanton (1815 - 1902). Famous as a pioneering feminist intellectual and crusader for women's suffrage, Stanton is today also remembered for the racism and anti-immigrant sentiment that dominated the second half of her incredibly long career. Hers is a story about how we deal with the political disappointment and with defeat.

Find Ellen Carol Dubois's new Elizabeth Cady Stanton: A Revolutionary Life here.

Read (or "reëncounter") Moira's review essay in the New Yorker here.

Comments

Hrisyana Doytchinova

So so true about the xenophobic “feminism” in Europe, also btw propagated by one female mayor in Amsterdam before Roxanne Gaye’s talk here (the layers!) Great episode, thanks and cheers from Amsterdam!

sobbing

Really interesting parallels between the movements of the time and now. I'm currently wrestling with the idea that I'm probably not going to live to see the end of american fascism, and trying to figure out how to move forward with that knowledge without giving up. Lots to chew on this week.

OuijaFBabysMama

Moira: this episode Me: *mouth agape* 👏

sonorasgirl

It is important to see people in the past as fully realized and complex. I grew up around a lot of Jewish folks, and as a very young gentile I had to confront that Nazis looked like me and had my background. I think that was ultimately healthy for my formation of morality and recognition that anyone can become part of an evil movement or hold harmful beliefs, even if they have positive intentions

William Knight

Minor point about Douglass - he was born in Maryland and enslaved here, first in agricultural slavery on the eastern shore and then hired out as a ship caulker in the shipyards of Fells Point/Canton in Baltimore. It was in Baltimore he learned to read, got married and then escaped slavery for real. At the time he was legally enslaved and had to pay back part of his wages to his enslaver, but lived away from a plantation in a city that had an equal number of free and enslaved African Americans (Baltimore was very strange in this respect and a number of others). Sorry just some like instinctive Douglass pedantry and notes on Maryland Black History (which is the better part of our history by a mile since it also includes Thurgood Marshall and Harriett Tubman).

Paul Crider

OMG I loved this episode so much. I'm always a bit of a nineteenth/turn-of-twentieth century political philosophy nerd. I hope you do more episodes on OG feminists, warts and all, of course.

A Felt

I loved this episode so much, it was really absorbing and thought-provoking. Moira is an incredible storyteller. I feel like this is the best I have understood Stanton as a deeply flawed human. The question of how to weather political disappointment and betrayal without becoming reactionary is so important and one I’ve been considering a lot recently in our moment of anti-feminist backlash.

testosteronefemme

me yelling while listening to this episode: WHY HAVEN'T Y'ALL GONE ON STRIKE. YOU'RE GONNA LET YOUR HUSBANDS TREAT YOU LIKE THIS IN THE MOVEMENT? LET THEM DEAL WITH CHILDCARE. and then I realized how much I owe to 2nd wave and beyond feminism 😭

Lindsay Alberts

Aside from the setting racism, I like this lady!

Astraea

Personally, I've settled on "I'm not going to hurt you, but I sure as shit can't trust you." Although to be fair, that attitude is directed toward white men and my fellow cishet white women (we have *so much* to answer for, jfc), so it's not a fantastic analogy. Still - I think it's important to distinguish between "I feel betrayed by you/deeply hurt by this outcome" and "I feel betrayed and therefore I will no longer support *your* human rights." The former is completely understandable, imo, while the later is never, ever justified.

Jenny

Echoeing others, this was an awesome episode, both highly listenable and gave me lots of entry points to learn/think further. One thing that really moved me, in an odd way, was learning about Stanton's racist backlash to perceived betrayal by abolitionists -- and then in turn learning about Frederick Douglass' personal misogyny. They feel like a powerful set of reminders to resist the temptation to idolize individual leaders within movement politics -- because no one can ever be the morally perfect exemplar for us to simply and blindly follow. Instead, we're all just imperfect individuals trying our best to come together and create something greater than the sum of our parts.

Masie McCandless

I finally finished all the episode, and I enjoyed this so much! One of my favorite things that I can take away from a podcast is having many things to research after. I had zero knowledge of Stanton going into this, so not only did Moira do an awesome job catching me up and walking me through her philosophy, history, and motives, but there were so many other things that Moira brought up that I wanted to learn about. Obviously not every episode could or should be like this. I also really enjoyed the wuthering heights episode. But, episodes like this add a lot to my life in a meaningful way. Thanks for the content as always.

Kelly G.

This was my favorite episode yet!

Katie

This was very moving, thank you. I cried at the Lucy Stone and the underground railway parts.

Athina

"A commitment to what is right that is greater than your own sense of woundedness at what's wrong" FUCK I wish my inner voice was as intelligent as Moira

Sarah B

Love hearing jabrony multiple times in my academic leaning pods

Kimberly Smith

I would like to see the movie version of this episode, with all its nuance and deep and thougtful critique preserved. Can you imagine casting actors to play Elizabeth and Frederick? What a unique and powerful friendship and what betrayals! I think seeing the movie version of this could really help us process and better understand our own time, recovering the realities of our histories to build more just futures.