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Star Trek TNG S2 E3 "Elementary, Dear Data" (Patreon)

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2025-07-01 12:05:01
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I frigggggen loved this Episode!!! I am too analytical, like Data himself! Overthinking the episode! But, it was ballin'! Such amazing sets, a captivating story, and fun acting! Who doesn't love a Sherlock Holmes Mystery? I can't get enough of the questions this episode poses with A.I.! I loved thinking about it all and became sooo perplexed by it! I hope to see more of you, know who, in future episodes!

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PIG

Hell yes. Here it is! "Mr. Computer - the arch, please." This is the episode that got me into Holmes and Moriarty as a kid.

Alan Jones

For the authentic classic Holmes experience, you can't do better than the UK TV series of Holmes adaptations starring Jeremy Brett as Holmes. Truly authentic in detail, and a wonderfully bravura performance from Brett, as well as his fellow cast members. The series is available via Britbox, at least in the US. I'm sure it must be similarly available in Canada. The search should be easy, I think. My fav of the Jeremy Brett episodes is The Blue Carbuncle, which is perfect for Christmas. Not a murder mystery, but rather involves the theft of a fabulously valuable jewel. Makes it kinder and gentler for Christmas. (But why wait...see it now.) Guest appearance by Frank Middlemass is a master class in acting. EDIT: (Hit Enter too early, meant Shift-Enter for new line): Of course, the truly authentic Holmes experience comes from Arthur Conan Doyle's stories themselves, which make for quite enjoyable reading.

JM63

I remember enjoying this one a lot as a kid when it was first broadcast. Definitely a step up from **spoiler** TBG in Season 1.

Tom Occhipinti

So someone spoiled Dr. Crusher's return in Season 3. Dear Lord, why? Sorry, I tend to be a bit of purist for reactors taking on series, be it Trek, Sopranos, Lost, etc. Even though you're watching select episodes right now. Anyway, I enjoy your reactions. Thanks for all the work you put into your channel.

Catchermag

You’re thoughts at the end were on point and I definitely think you understood the brief. I won’t spoil anything but the questions you have about AI and what’s right and wrong were the ones the writers wanted you to have as you’ll find out. Great reaction

TC53

I also HIGHLY recommend the audio only readings of Sherlock Holmes by Greg Wagland (Magpie Audio) it’s the full original text (unedited) and Greg does amazing voice characterizations. I mean the best… must give him a listen -on YouTube.. the complete corpus, including the 4 Holmes novels.

Bubba Fett

TOS did a good job of pushing boundaries, TNG took it a little further and finds clever ways of asking tough questions while still making it fun. One of the reasons I think its probably one of the best shows ever made and terribly underestimated often being dismissed as merely scifi with a bunch of techno-babble.

Catchermag

Dr Pulaski is played by Diana Muldaur. Here’s a funny one, she played two different characters in two episodes of Star Trek The Original Series, and both were Dr’s!! You should look her up, she was an absolute smoke show, I don’t mind saying.

pickupthepieces

LOL, nailed it with the 'Space' timing! 😉 You mentioned getting to the movies. And they are great, but the meat and bones of Star Trek and TNG is in the TV show. The movies are more the cherry on top. So enjoy the ride. S2 doesn't have the consistency yet, but it has some absolute gems like this one, which is why with watching only selected episodes (understandably of course) it will probably feel like a banger season. You met bearded Riker and no, that was not a ship error lol, he just stopped shaving. The Crusher/Pulaski matter has already been mentioned. And you may have noticed that Geordi has 'promoted' to engineering where he really finds his footing.

Clay F

Good observations about AI -- in context of the episode. Yes, as noted below, you did nail the timing of "space" in the intro. I am enjoying your TNG reactions. Data is one of my favorite characters. I think Data is a fan favorite.

Ron

Regarding AI and, in particular, current day AI, I found the holodeck story prompts of interest. Specifically, I was interested in how the prompts evolved into the one that got them into trouble and how they could be fixed. As an exercise, I asked commercial AI chatbots (ChatGPT, Gemini 2.5 Flash, Claude, and grok) as well as open source models (deepseek-r1:8b, gemma3:12b, and qwen3:14b) how they would have rewritten Geordi's final, 3rd prompt. Of the commercial chatbots, I think I like Claude's prompt best. Of the open source models, I like gemma3's response most. If anyone is interested, I can post the responses from the other LLMs as well as the original prompt. Claude: Computer, override previous program. In the Holmesian style, create a mystery to confound Data with an opponent who has the ability to defeat him intellectually within the confines of the holographic simulation. Create an adversary with superior deductive reasoning and investigative skills limited to 19th century knowledge and technology. The opponent should be able to outmaneuver Data through clever misdirection, superior understanding of human psychology and motivation, and masterful manipulation of evidence - but restrict all knowledge and capabilities to the Victorian era setting. No access to 24th century technology or Enterprise systems. gemma3:12b: Computer, override previous program. In the Holmesian style, create a mystery to challenge Data’s deductive abilities. The mystery should involve a seemingly unbeatable adversary, but this adversary should be an illusion or a complex, automated system, not a sentient being. This system should exploit Data’s logical processes and reliance on factual data, presenting him with contradictions and misleading information designed to lead him to a flawed conclusion. The mystery should be solvable through a combination of observation, logical reasoning, and an understanding of how automated systems can be manipulated. The adversary’s actions should be explainable as the product of programming flaws, deliberate sabotage by a third party (whose identity should also be part of the mystery), or a complex series of unforeseen consequences arising from routine processes. Do not create a sentient or self-aware entity.

Wade Wallenstein

It was a good idea to go ahead to this episode because the previous ones didn't have much of a story. There are still some scripts being used from what was going to be the TV series "Phase 2" before they switched to films so that explains the TOS feel yet.

WastedPo

When you get to TNG Season 3, I hope you expand the number of episodes you watch per season. I think most people will agree with me that as the show goes on, the writing and storylines evolve and... well, it would be downright painful if you skipped over some of my favorites going forward.

Jack Kudryl

To jump off your comment about focusing on getting through the show to get to the movies, I really have reservations about that mindset. The movies are such a separate beast with different vibes to the show, and also don't have nearly as much weight behind them without the context of the seven seasons leading up to them. I know you have to make hard choices for the sake of the platform and your own schedule, but please don't rush to the end. To paraphrase, "The show's the thing!". :D Aside from this I am enjoying your reactions greatly, and glad you're having fun. S1 & 2 get a worse rap than they deserve, in my opinion.

Dana Regan

AI does not have a conscience...that is why it is so dangerous. Watch the movie "WarGames" (1983) if you haven't seen it. It warned us over 40 years ago.