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The In-Laws (SFO Edition): Discussing Farrow, Thatcher, Banks, Akara, and Donnelly's Relationship with Their In-Laws (Core 6)

The November poll has ended, and the results are in! This is one of those topics that've been suggested for many, many months, so we're so happy it's finally taken the number one spot and won the poll! We're super pumped to discuss SFO's relationship with their in-laws (aka the Core 6!) and we're even more excited to see what questions you all have for this one!

Let us know in the comments if you have any questions about SFO's relationship with their in-laws during the Like Us series!

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Yasti

Yayyy so excited for this one!! • Now that PLU is cancelled and this podcast topic got picked, I have to try my luck lol. Did Connor ever find out about Jane and Thatcher having sex in his limo?

a

do the core 6 go out to lunch with all the guys? like when farrow went with moffy

Kelsey🤍

If Ryke and Daisy had to pick who would they choose for Sulli: Akara or Banks?

a

whats a typical day like when the guys visit their inlaws? what happens in each house

a

how often do they get together with their inlaws

Abby (Eliot’s version)

What are three (or more!) things that Farrow gets from/out of his relationship with Lo? Three things Donnelly gets? Maybe it’s things they never had or things they have always needed… besides a father figure is what I’m getting at lol What are some things Lo gets from them?

a

do the guys ever hang out with the core 6 without their significant others?

a

for each of the guys (thatcher, banks, akara, farrow, donnelly) who are they closest to or spend more time chatting with? their mothers inlaw or fathers inlaw?

Bruna

I’m curious to know who you girls think would be friends in another universe, like if the in-laws weren’t famous and the bodyguards weren’t dating/married to their kids? For example, I can totally see Akara being friends with Ryke in another reality, and also if they were closer in age.

a

do sfo ever text the core 6 to chat?

Abby (Eliot’s version)

Of Lily, Rose and Daisy, who would you say is closest to their son(s)-in-law? And how? Calls, chats, time spent? Do the Core 6 girls ever take (or have taken) the five guys anywhere like the Core 6 guys have lunch with them sometimes? Like a group outing!

Teresa

Iam curious how much fun was it to write from the latest bonus scene( last minute changes) with Thatchers POV and introducing us to more of Thatchers family. Was it fun to come up with the names and the personalities of those we've seen so far. Did you base any of the relationships off of our on characters from the Addicted or Like us series ? I haven't reread Thatcher and Jane's Duet in a couple years😅, so i may have forgotten but please confirm if we have met some of these family members of Thatchers/Banks before.

Teresa

Can you give us a hint on which grandparent baby Maeve and Seven are more attached to?

Abby (Eliot’s version)

God I need to see Ryke hold his grandson and Connor hold his granddaughter for the first time more than almost anything 😭🥹😍

Grace

What are the biggest sources of tension between the characters and their in-laws? Are these tensions based on personality differences, values, or something else?

Grace

What is the most memorable or awkward moment the main characters have had with their in laws?

Grace

Does Thatcher’s relationship with his in-laws reflect his own family dynamics growing up? Are there any similarities or contrasts

Teresa

Same it would be horrible if we never get this bonus scene 😢

Grace

I have to know does Connor know that Jane and Thatcher had sex in his limo?

Teresa

I don't remember if this was mentioned but are any of the cousins/aunt/uncles, from Thatchers Dad side of the family? Does Michael have brothers and sisters?

Jennifer H

Do you think that there would ever be potential for an in law guys night? Like Farrow, Thatcher, Banks, Akara, Donnelly, Lo, Ryke and Connor all hanging out without any of the girls?

Jennifer H

Will Banks ever be as close with Daisy and Ryke as Akara is? Or will Akara always have a little bit of an “edge” given his long history with Sulli?

Teresa

Loren never found out about Donnelly going down on Luna in the earlier books, was it ever a possibility of him finding out ? As it was the knawing fear from alot of the characters that he would find out. Did you ever consider him learning about it?

Sofia Boscacci

So excited for this 🤩🤩My question is did Ryke and Akara gain back their close relationship? We knew that Ryke considered him a son and then when he found out about the triad he was upset but ended up coming around, we didn’t have many scenes between the two of them in infamous like us so I was wondering if they got back to where they were before? since I thought it was a nice bond and nice to see ryke with fatherly feelings towards someone else, love you girlies so much; please never stop writing, I’m obsessed with ur books 💕💕💕

Kelly.

I am so EXCITED for this one! Can’t wait.

rachrachrach1

Hi! Long time listener, first time asker: is Farrow the type of person that Lo and Lily pictured with Maximoff? They’re my absolute favorite and can’t picture them with anyone else but know that they didn’t picture Moffy with a bodyguard

Safiyyah R

What’s something that Connor and rose do to bond/connect with Thatcher?

Safiyyah R

If Lo had to spent a whole day with just Donnelly, what’s it look like? What about with Farrow? Connor with Thatcher, Ryke with Akara, Ryke with Banks?

Safiyyah R

Which parent is closest to each son in law?

Safiyyah R

Does SFO ever hang out with their in laws alone or does their significant other have to be there?

Safiyyah R

If SFO has to give their father in law or mother in law a gift, who do you think would be the best at it and worst at choosing something?

Teresa

I always imagined that Rose would be someone who would want to do a check in lunch once a month with her daughter and son in laws. Is that something you think she would do?

a

whats Rykes relationship with banks and akara vs Daisy’s relationship with them

Teresa

If Thatcher and Connor would have a meal together with just them , would they go out to eat and what would they order or would Thatcher cook and if so what would he cook?

Ellieeeee

Connor Cobalt knows all 👀✨

Abby (Eliot’s version)

If Lily and Daisy had emojis next to their sons-in-law names in their phones, what would they be and why those? (sorry Rose, I don’t think this applies to you but you can be included if you have one for Thatcher!!)

Morgan and Maria

Did Rose and Connor’s opinion of Donnelly change by the end of NLU? Do they follow Lilo’s acceptance of him into the family or will there always be some underlying tension about what happened with Beckett and the Donnelly’s?

Teresa

Has Daisy and Ryke interacted with any of the Banks's family? Can you tell us what there first interactions were like when they first met.

Shelby Keating

Is there still tension between Lily and Donnelly? Or has that faded as he got closer with Lo and more serious with Luna?

JT

Has Thatcher and Connor's relationship grown closer, more relaxed, and less awkward and professional than it was at first, when Thatcher was hesitant to open up to Connor and did not act like a bodyguard or professional? Are there any requirements thatcher feels he must fulfill as the first son-in-law in order to be accepted into the Cobalts/ Connor and rose.

Teresa

What were Connor and Rose's first impressions on meeting Thatchers family and vice versa. For Thatchers family was anyone nervous or anything to meet Rose and Connor due to how famous they are.

Arling

What do the uncles/aunts-in-law think of the l/i of the Like Us series? Example: what does Lo think of Akara and Banks? what does Rose think of Farrow? What does Ryke think of Thatcher? etc...

JT

Knowing how both Lily and Lo experienced having absent parents and their desire to be there for those their children cared about and saw as family rather than bodyguards, I am curious about their thoughts and feelings. They were able to fulfill a parental role that Farrow and Donnelly were unable to have throughout their lives. Additionally, how essential it was to them to develop relationships with their children's significant others.

Abby (Eliot’s version)

Random quick questions - - Connor’s favorite quality about Thatcher? - Lily’s biggest pet peeve about about Farrow? - Lo’s idea of a bonding activity for him and Donnelly? With Farrow? - Daisy’s ideal thing to do with Akara if it’s just the two of them? - One thing about Thatcher, or something he says, that always makes Rose roll her eyes (or want to)? - besides their love for Sulli, something Ryke and Banks bonded over? - which son-in-law (SIL) hugs their mother-in-law the most? - which SIL does the Core 6 most often complain about when together? Not really complain about at all? - who bitched/talked to the rest of the Core 6 more during their daughter’s dating phase of their relationships - Ryke about Banks and Akara, or Lo about Donnelly? - which SIL did the Core 6 collectively warm up to the fastest? Slowest? - how often do the Core 6 talk about their SILs when together? and finally, - after the initial shock of it, how do the Core 6 feel about four of their children falling for members of SFO?

Abby (Eliot’s version)

This isn’t about the C6 and SILs, but is about in-laws… how does Lo feel about Edward now? Has tension lessened the farther removed from the wedding we’ve gotten, or is it still present? Did he ever say anything to Edward about how he feels/what he thinks? Even if Farrow did “fix” it with his dad, we know Lo is the king of petty and can hold a grudge… so I can see him keeping his anger/frustration, but being civil for their shared grandkids

Teresa

Did Moffy talk to his dad or mom about not having any biological children coming straight from him?

Teresa

Slightly off topic, did Sulli, Banks and Akara know they were going to have a boy before she gave birth and if they found out before did they do a gender reveal with the in-laws/cousins and aunts /uncles?

Teresa

When Donnelly's dad decides to let him go and cut ties, can you give us an idea on Lo's reaction and what he said to Donnelly when he revealed what Sean did.

lubby

Which son in law gets called in for babysitting most often out of them all? What do Rose, Connor, Daisy and Ryke think about Donnelly after NLU (before the epilogue)? My most important question: ANY details you can give us about Lo’s relationships with Farrow and Donnelly. Throughout the books, and especially when conversations around having kids come up, Lo is talked about as the good father. Moffy says often that he was raised by a good dad (especially when they’re waiting on Rip at the hospital) and we all know how terrible it was for Donnelly. What kind of relationships do both of them develop over time with Lo? Is Lo protective of Donnelly as he is of Farrow during HLU? He tells Farrow he loves Farrow like a son - does he ever say that or something similar to Donnelly? How is Lily’s relationship with Donnelly after NLU?

JT

I know this is a little off subject, but how did Rose and Connor feel about missing the birth of their first grandchild, Maeve, especially since they had known that Donnelly had assisted Jane with the birth? Also They must have been devastated to hear thatcher had not been able to see the birth of his first child knowing how important and heartbreaking that is.

a

how often does lo feel like he wants to be there for farrow and donnelly knowing that they have issues with their fathers. does he feel like they are also his children and that he wants to take them under his wing

a

do the parents hang out one on one with their sons in law?

Teresa

Would the core 6 ever do a dinner to discuss all that's happened in the last 3 years and the joys/ nerves of being grandparents. Especially for first time grandparents Rose/Connor , Ryke/Daisy.

SL

By the end of NLU, do Lily and Lo know about Donnelly's sleep walking?

Teresa

Great question!!😄

Abby (Eliot’s version)

In four words or less, can you describe the type of relationship each SIL has with each of their in-laws? Like Lily with Farrow, Lo with Farrow, etc.

a

we’ve seen alot about lo’s relationships with his sons in law, but how is connors relationship with thatcher like? and what is rykes relationship like with banks and akara?

a

whats the SIL relationship with their mothers in law like?

a

do the SIL prefer to hang out with their FIL or MIL

a

how do rose and connor feel about donnelly?

Teresa

If Farrow and Connor were to play a trivia game who would win?

Abby (Eliot’s version)

Is it difficult for any of the sons-in-law to turn off the bodyguard part of them when they’re with their in-laws in a secured place? Like is it a struggle for them to set down their ear pieces and guns and just relax? Are they comfortable being themselves or do they hold back some?

Teresa

When i think of family dinners at the Hales i think of meatloaf and mash potatoes. What would the Meadows have at family dinner with there son in laws.

a

what would family dinner look like for each group

Teresa

This is off topic but iam really hoping you ladies find inspiration to write Ryke/Daisy and Rose/Connor bonus scenes with their reactions to everything that's happened to Winona with Tate in NLU and Ben attacking him with the bat, the decision that was made for both Nona and Ben moving to NY etc. It would be a perfect bonus POV for daisy especially since she doesn't have many bonuses here on patreon. And if your not able to write it now maybe you can have it as a prologue or flashback in Burn Bright or an extra bonus scene at the end of BB.

Shelby Keating

Do daisy and ryke have favorites between akara and banks?

Shelby Keating

Have connor and thatcher gotten closer? Especially since he’s not just his daughters husband anymore, he’s the father of connors grandchild 🥰

Shelby Keating

It seems like lily favors farrow and lo has started to favor Donnelly (not that they dont love both) I’m curious, how would you describe lo’s relationship with farrow? Lily’s with Donnelly? Would they ever get lunch or spend time with them without luna and Moffy? We’ve seen lo do that with donnelly and I believe lily would with farrow, I’m curious about the inverse though.

Shelby Keating

The cobalt brothers said that thatcher even had their dad fooled before their relationship, is this something that connor dislikes? Or was he sort of impressed that he was able to surprise him?

Teresa

Connor has been in therapy for years, we're there any conversations with Thatcher on seeing a therapist and how helpful it can be to open up.

JT

Aside from the scrapbook that rose made that was shown, it had Jane crying as a child with different colorful outfits. Do the members of Core 6 enjoy sharing and showcasing to SFO old home films and pictures they took when the kids were little?

JT

Has there been a shift in the dynamics of the Meadows family get-togethers and meals? Does it feel the same or is it different now that Ryke has banks and akara in the house, where it used to be mostly just the girls and Ryke?

Abby (Eliot’s version)

I’ve asked about the Core 6 talking about their SILs, but do the SILs ever gossip/talk about their in-laws together? Like outside of security stuff… maybe share stories or funny things or grumble about something they said or did?

Abby (Eliot’s version)

By the end of NLU, all of the Core 6 are now grandparents so how that does that change their dynamic with their SILs? Which of the Core 6 are the most “hands on” with their grandkids and give the most parenting advice? Do the SILs appreciate the involvement/input or are they annoyed like some sons/daughters-in-law sometimes get in regular society?

Alexandra

So sorry in advance for all these essay questions, could not contain myself 🙈 - What kind/type of person did the core 6 think their kids would end up with and how do they compare to who the famous ones actually ended up with? For example, how Moffys siblings always assumed he would end up with someone "uncool" and more stuck-up. - Which of the core 6 take on what role for their kids in law, e.g. parent, (best) friend, mentor? For example, I feel like Lilo are more like parents to Farrow and Donnelly whereas I don't see that dynamic as much for Thatcher and Connor (probably also to do with the fact that the former don't have parental figures in their life and moreso a need/gap for that). - How has the relationship of the core 6 with security in general changed now that their children have ended up with members of security? Are they, for example, more involved in the ins and outs of security, more worried about securities' risks and well being? Would they prefer them to quit security or do another job or are they more content with the situation as it is? - Do the parents have a secret (or not so secret lol) favorite partner of their kids? So Lilo with Farrow and Donnelly and Raisy with Akara and Banks? I could see it respectively with Farrow and Lily and Donnelly and Lo but I'm curious about your thoughts. Does anyone in SFO have a favorite inlaw? Do the famous ones? Not that it could apply for a lot of them sadly. Related to that, are Lilo sad that they didnt get a bigger family with Farrow and Donnelly since they are both estranged from their own families? Or are they secretly a bit glad that they dont have to deal with uniting two families and are getting all the attention and especially grandkid time? 😄 Does it make them more protective of their kids inlaw and grandkids or are they trying to compensate for Farrow‘s and Donnelly‘s lack of close family? - Does the fact that Lunnelly is such a PDA heavy couple impact Lily's relationship with Donnelly, Luna or both of them as a couple? We've read some of it with Lily walking in on them in the kitchen but even after that and just in general? Or do Donnelly and Lily grow closer as well? - Which inlaws spend the most time alone with their kids partners without the child itself being present the most? What kind of activity would that entail? - What is a favorite memory for each of the core 6 with each of the partners, both when they were "only" security and after? - What did Connor and Rose think about the fake cheating rumor that Jane and Thatcher made up? Did they see the parallel to them making the deal with the media to distract them from the other core 6 back in the day? - How do the core 6 perceive their children to have changed since they fell in love and entered serious relationships? Do they only see positive changes or also more neutral and or even negative ones? Or some really surprising ones? What is their favorite new development? - Did Lilo ever wish that Marrow would have had Ripley later in life? Not that they didnt love Ripley instantly and were supportive but just thinking of the fact that they wanted Moffy to stay young longer and not take on so much responsibility. How did they see their own unplanned pregnancy in their 20s vs Marrow becoming parents unexpectedly? - Who would you say is the closest emotionally with their inlaws? Whose relationship has grown and changed the most with their inlaws within the Like Us timeline? - What did Lilo think about Marrows decision of using Lunas eggs for some of their kids? Are they worried about the "addiction genes" for any of their kids and specifically with Lunnelly's since Donnelly's family has a strong history with addiction as well? - In a similar vein: How concerned are the core 6 as grandparents about how their own trauma and backstory is going to affect their grandkids? For example, whether Coballoways sex tape is still going to affect Maeve as it did Jane or are they moreso able to take a step back from those worries and let their kids handle it? - It is said that raising your kids the way you yourself were never raised can heal your inner child. In general, we see this a lot with the core 6 and that how they were raised directly influenced how they raised their own children. Would you say that being able to be the grandparents that they couldnt give their kids is healing another part of their inner child/young parent? (Sidenote: I really hope it did for Lo when Ripley preferred him over anyone else, besides Marrow, when he used to think he would be a bad dad. What were his feelings/thoughts/reaction to that?). Or does it sometimes also bring up bad memories and trauma for them? For example, Lily taking care of a grandchild and realizing how badly Grandma Calloway actually treated the Hale kids since Lily could never imagine treating Ripley or other grandkids like that? Or is Connor thinking more about his parents again? How would you say their relationship to their parents and their parents relationship to their own kids impacts them now as grandparents? What are the core 6 priorities when it comes to being grandparents? How does their parenting style differ from their grandparent style? - What is each of the core 6 favorite and least favorite characteristic of their "children in law" (hope that is an actual English word)? And in reverse, what is Farrow and Co's favorite and least favorite quality in their respective inlaws? - How does the fact that all of their kids' partners were security before dating the famous ones impact the relationship with their inlaws? Especially with those that were close with the core 6 even back then, like Akara and Farrow. Do Lilo ever think back on the time when Farrow was Lily's bodyguard and wish he wouldn't have heard and seen certain personal details of Lilo's life that he normally would have never seen as Moffys partner or maybe even regular security. - After what we have learned in PLU, I am curious whether Farrow ever had another conversation with Lilo about his relationship with his father. Does Lily know about Farrows dad being affected by her walking Farrow down the aisle? ( Another sidenote: I was also wondering how Farrow's father even knew about that? I thought Marrow called him in the bathroom at the beginning of HLU about not attending and after that Farrow asked Lily to walk him down the aisle, so how could that have been Dr. Keene's reason for not attending? Or am I messing up the timeline?) Did the big talk with his father affect Farrows relationship with his inlaws (consciously or subconsciously)? Has Lilo knowing about bad aspects of Farrow's father impacted how they see/trust Farrow's father as a doctor? Maybe Lo could be petty and protective of Farrow about it? - Do the core 6 ever worry about the Lake House not being big enough when all their kids enter relationships and have kids? 😂 - Who of the core 6 does the most babysitting? Also I'm not sure whether that was ever mentioned in the Like Us books but who are the godparents of the grandkids? Have the Like Us couples ever had a conversation about who would raise their kids if something happened to them, similar to the Core 6 in the addicted timeline? Would it be their grandparents or siblings/cousins? - What are the core 6 like as grandparents? Are they similar to how they were as parents or different? For example, is Lo more relaxed with Ripley or even more protective than with his kids? - Have the core 6 ever had a talk with SFO about fame and everything since they don't have the same experience with it that the famous ones had? I think I remember one between Farrow and Lo I think in ALU but other than that? In general and how it affects raising your children in the spotlight. - Can you share some more of Lilo's perspective on everything that happened with Luna and her amnesia related to Donnelly? Were they happy that she had Donnelly or concerned about her "imprinting" on him? What do they think about Lunnelly moving to NYC and that being their first kid to move out of Philly with a boyfriend? How is it different for them compared to when Moffy went to Harvard? - Did the core 6 hear about the mandatory psych eval for SFO and Thatcher failing it? Did they agree with the evaluations that everyone was supposedly fine or would they have preferred for them to take some time off to process? Were Connor and Rose worried about Thatcher and asked him about it? - How is Connor's and Rose's relationship with the Morettis vs Ryke's and Daisy's with them? How do Jane and Sulli get along with their own inlaws? Were the Morettis hurt that Kitsulletti eloped, especially after Jane and Thatcher were so careful with their wedding that noone's feelings would be hurt? - Did the core 6 even notice, care or have any thoughts or feelings about their kids changing their name with marriage? Were Lilo or Raisy for example feeling honored that their name was "chosen"? Or did Connor feel some type of way about it since he cares about the Cobalt legacy? - Do the core 6 have any insecurities when it comes to being inlaws or grandparents? For example, does Rose worry about not being maternal or traditionally "loving" enough like she sometimes did with her kids (or at least the outside perception of it)? On the other hand, what is something they are sure they can provide or are proud of? - Are Rose and Connor now also most excited for the phase when Maeve grows older and is able to talk compared to the baby stage (like they were with their own children)? - Do the core 6 have conversations about the fact that all of their kids have so far ended up with security? Similar to the talk in Connor's office in DLU about how they used to be all single and only have NSA sex. Are they side-eying some of security for their other kids or would prefer older, taken bodyguards to be hired from now on? Or do they also see the "advantages" of it/are happy that their kids found partners they could trust because of their job in security? Do they talk and think about whether that pattern would only make sense for their older kids and maybe not for the younger ones? Do they sometimes think about the fact that they were also able to more quickly trust their kids in law since they knew their character, compared to if someone from the outside dated one of their kids and they couldn't be sure of their intentions at all? Would the core 6 do background checks on their kids' new partners? - If the Core 6 had to play a pop quiz/trivia questions game about their kids in law, who would win? So basically, who knows the most details and random facts about each of their children’s partners. In each of the couples (e.g., Lily vs Lo) and overall in the core 6? I feel like Connor and Rose would take this very hard if they lost against each other 👀

Alexandra

I know this is about SFO and the Core 6 but could you shortly give us a bit of a glimpse into how Oscar and Jack get along with their inlaws? Have they met a lot? What do the inlaws think of their respective child in law and vice versa? ☺️

Alexandra

Has Farrow ever talked to either Lily or Lo about his own mom in more detail? What was Lilo‘s reaction when they learned of Cassidy‘s name and the significance of it?

Teresa

Will there be a conversation between Daisy and Donnelly when it comes to there sleepwalking. Is there any advice she would give him on how she dealt with it or is still dealing with it?Iam not sure if she still deals with sleepwalking, I can't remember.

Krista & Becca Ritchie

Thank you all for your wonderful questions! We're prepping the podcast so we won't be answering any other questions after this comment xoxo