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Discussing Nova Lake, Zen 6, Zen 7, and Threadripper w/ Leo from Kitguru! (Guest Telegrams) (Patreon)

Published:
2025-08-15 01:45:03
Edited:
2025-08-15 19:15:35
Imported:
2026-06
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The next episode of Broken Silicon will see us be joined by Leo from KitGuru once again! Needless to say - he can speak to anything having to do with AMD, Nvidia, Intel, or gaming hardware...but at a minimum we plan to discuss:

Zen 5 vs Arrow Lake Postmortem

Arrow Lake Refresh

Zen 5 Refresh

Threadripper 9000

Zen 6 vs Nova Lake

RDNA 4 vs Blackwell

RDNA 5

...and anything else y'all want! You have ~48 hours to submit (Until Saturday Evening).

Last Time Leo was on: https://youtu.be/TyvNfeRJdeI

KitGuru Threadripper Review: https://youtu.be/bQ42uuYpR3s?si=0lVfMMqk4QHD9oX-

Leo's Core Untra "Pointless" video: https://youtu.be/U1TDAXftWKc?si=_f-v1YMav0OlPIyV

9950X3D Review: https://youtu.beTjSRJXZ8gs?si=Hyt7cDTP8F8VWFE

ARL 104 Days Later: https://youtu.be/JSQ2pwhKyzA?si=uR9dZOQT76CxdGEu

Zen 5 Patch Video: https://youtu.be/uSJMKCmTssk?si=pPTWFsm1QShIxtwk

Comments

Manolis Ragkousis

With reports that the U.S. government is considering taking a stake in Intel, could this mark the start of a partial nationalization to save the company, and what would that mean for competition and innovation in the chip industry?

AI-Soldier789

Good day Tom and Leo, what is your take, that the Switch 2 seems to be to slow for dlss even for the CNN model. Donkikong for example uses FSR1 and Cyberpunk has ghosting problems. Is that because of the hardware or because Donkikong was a ported Switch 1 game. It is said, that Japanese developer take longer to adapt things like integrating motion vectors into their engines.

Jay Buffay (Yes I Know It's Spelled Wrong)

The upcoming nova lake cpus are going to have two compute tiles and even more e cores than prior generations. Have developers done anything with the e cores / are they planning to since they are quite clearly here to stay. As for the second tile, would games be able to take advantage of the other Eight p cores despite the latency of working across tile? seeing as hyperthreading is gone and each tile only has 8 p cores, cross tile and e core utilization will likely become rather important.

Cleansweep

Hey Tom and Leo, Do you think AMD has put themselves in a tight spot with their next -60 class GPU? Based on the leaked RDNA 5 chart, the lowest end AT2 configuration only has 12GB of VRAM. I know the 9060 is an 8GB card, but since it seems to be an OEM only card, won't the consumer point of comparison be the 9060 XT? Or do you think RDNA's -60 class GPU might be another OEM only card?

Woody Chang

Hi Tom and Leo, Is there anyone that is set up to be TSMC's competition for the next few years? Intel is seemingly abandoning their foundries, and other fabs like Samsung being too far behind the cutting edge, but perhaps we are overlooking someone? I like TSMC's tech but I don't want them to have more of a monopoly than they already have. It would be nice like to have some other fabs still make cutting edge products if something happens geopolitically to Taiwan in the near future. Thanks!

Dylan K.

Good evening Tom and Leo, I hope either or both of you are enjoying the Battlefield 6 beta this weekend. Do you think that Threadripper will maintain relevancy as both Zen 6 and Zen 7 increase core counts, or will AMD CPU choices look similar to the GPU side, with RDNA 5 mostly have a variety of AT2 and AT0 model? In other words, will the focus there be a full core count die (Epyc) for people who want to splurge and a more cost-focused CPU (Zen) for most consumers? Thank you for your time. I hope you have a good night.

kwerboom

Greetings Tom and Leo. My question for Leo is the following: With all the changes to the desktop market since AMD launched Ryzen, what's your take HEDT as a product group? During the prior Perpetual Quad Core Era controlled by Intel, HEDT made sense because mainstream desktop CPUs had so few cores and server CPUs weren't a great fit for consumer/professional workloads, so there was an actual need for a product stack to bridge the two groups. With Ryzen, AMD has loaded desktop CPUs with enough cores for most prosumer workloads, EPYC fills the server roll quite well, and Threadripper Pro basically exists for professional workloads that need PCIe lanes or highly multithreaded jobs. Where does this currently leave Threadripper HEDT? From what I can see at a glance, mainstream Ryzen has eaten away at HEDT from the bottom, EPYC sits at the very top, and HEDT is just a weirdly, functionally limited shadow of the Pro lineup for less money. Am I missing something? If I'm spot on with my assessment, what would AMD (or Intel) have to do to make HEDT relevant and justifiable as a product group?

Dark Helmet

All things considered, are there use cases for which you would recommend any of the arrow lake desktop sku's?

transpose1195

With AM5 as well as the next Intel socket rumored to support 4 CPU generations, how heavily should gamers weight platform longevity as part of CPU buying decisions? I purchased a 7700 for AM5 in 2023 with the idea of upgrading to Zen 6 X3D multiple years later, but plenty of factors could change across multi-year time spans. I'm happy to see these pro-consumer plans that should generate less e-waste, but am I playing 4-D chess with my 5+ year upgrade plan?

Captain

Hi Tom and Leo! First reader mail from my part, looking forward to this episode ^^ I'm curious, what's the current state on Intels 13th and 14th gen fiasco?

Donkey Kong Odyssey

With the leaking of AT0 die for RDNA 5/UDNA, do you think AMD is truly going for the crown next Gen? And if so, how many bananas (dollars) do to think AMD would charge in light of flagships like the 5090 charging ≥2K bananas (dollars)?

Dark Side of the Force

As a reviewer that constantly work with different platform and test drive them, how much to you value platform maturity/ stability when a new product line release? Do you give them more lee way because they are new or would it be a dock in the points?

Chris Rijk

Let’s say for the sake of argument that AMD released a version of Strix Halo for the Threadripper platform and that a complete system cost at least $500 more than the equivalent Mini PC style Strix Halo systems we do have. Do you think there would be much interest in such a thing over the current designs where neither the APU or memory is upgradable?