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EMN: Charlie Kirk, Right-Wing Rage, And Kash Patel Realizing He Has A Job - PATREON (Patreon)

Published:
2025-09-12 19:03:23
Edited:
2025-09-12 19:20:54
Imported:
2026-06

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Hi. Under The Desk News' V Spehar joins Katy, Cody, and Jonathan to talk about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. They discuss the details of the investigation, the Right's vitriolic attacks on the Left, the bizarre media canonization of Kirk, and the uncertain future of political rhetoric. As always, we recorded right before that big thing that happened.

VIDEO VERSION: https://youtu.be/L14ekAalTqQ

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Joooooooood

I'm waiting to see how the far right reacts to the current suspect

Ashley Dryer

I'm so glad V finally was able to be a guest on the show. With so much going on, it's nice to see people who actually care and do their homework come together and talk about serious and easily polarizing news. Don't give up and don't let the hateful voices drown out the hopeful voices trying to keep us focused on a better future.

Jared Pearce

I was wondering, does anyone else get an uncanny valley, green screen vibe?

Zack Spiller

V understood what many still hesitate to name: beneath the theatrical facade of civility lies a regime of power that manufactures obedience through fear, spectral enemies, and the pacification of dissent. We cannot allow ourselves to be captured by the ideological state apparatuses (media, law, and spectacle) which relentlessly reframe justified anger as criminality, and grief as disorder. What we are living through is not a breakdown of discourse, but its weaponization. It’s like Foucault taught us, discourse is not merely what is said, it is what is made possible to say. And today, political speech has become saturated with stochastic terrorism, which is a dispersed but deliberate rhetoric of hate and dehumanization that incites violence while maintaining plausible deniability. The architects of this speech act do not pull triggers; they load the gun and hand it to whomever is already trembling. The ideological machinery disavows this violence even as it seeds it. It is a system that speaks in euphemisms while others bleed. This is the necropolitical logic of our time: not just who gets to live or die, but who gets marked as killable. People do not erupt into rage because they are irrational; they erupt because every sanctioned avenue for political redress has been foreclosed. David Graeber told us that when all peaceful channels are exhausted, when debt is enforced without reciprocity, when violence is rendered invisible until it spills into the streets, rage becomes not pathology but signal. This is not chaos. It is clarity. The people’s anger is not spontaneous combustion. It is the slow burn of justice denied. Also, J-Hive Stand Up!

Thomas Nicholson

I appreciate y'all not jumping to conclusions, but that video of Trump from the White House was 100% AI generated. Only his face moves. It was a lazy generation, and I have no doubt Trump wasn't involved in its creation.

Steve Snyder

I’m proud to support this show. These are much much better people than I am, or ever will be. Katie especially. I see a lot of myself in Cody at times when he flashes with anger, but even he’s better than I am.

Armando MC

Please take care of yourselves

Andee Oord

We do not have to be sad that a person died. I even think it’s fine to feel happy about this. We didn’t know the man personally, we just heard that a white supremacist was killed. It’s ok if that gives you hope

Andy McCoy

As to whether people really know who Charlie Kirk was, I did have a conversation with someone who thought he was a good faith debate. I pointed her to some of his statements about the Great Replacement and Cultural Marxism with links and tried to point out that we should be honest about who he was even if we don't condone what happened. I'm in a purple area and the person I was talking to had only seen clips of Kirk on campus and had never heard of the Great Replacement. There are probably a lot of non-MAGAs that only know Kirk through clips on Facebook or TikTok that would actually be opposed to things he says on his show.

Dormagio

I’m struggling to put to words that this kind of direct violence feels like an inevitable result of systemic decay. It is crushing to see people desperately lashing out as all the systems that keep the world running increasingly fail to do anything more than grind up more meat.