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EMN: MAGA is Exploiting Charlie Kirk’s Murder To Attack Everyone - AD-FREE (Patreon)

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2025-09-16 12:37:11
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2026-06

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Hi. In today's episode, Katy, Cody, and Jonathan discuss the ongoing fallout from Charlie Kirk's murder and how it overshadowed yet another school shooting and the deeper implications of extremism on US society. They dig into the increasingly vitriolic language on the right and the doxxing of people, mostly teachers, who post even remotely negative things about Kirk.

VIDEO VERSION: https://youtu.be/hN9oJ6Liz7Y

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Steve Snyder

Kilmeade only apologized to the fact that he said it out loud. His apology translates to “I’ve been told it was callous to say my true beliefs on air.”

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Bill Maher with a stopped clock being right moment.

CrimzinD

Just sharing some thoughts I shared in another place. ~ I can not emphasize enough how much I hate violence, how desperate I am for peaceful coexistence and cooperation. I am terrified of what is happening, this is not the world I want to live in… and I am having trouble reconciling how I want the world to be, and how it is. These people are advocating for the non existence of other people. They are fascists. They are not going to release power willingly. The things they are doing are resulting in direct deaths, they're are going to get more and more people killed. Their healthcare policies, their climate change policies, infrastructure… the complete lack of preparation for the future, in so many ways. We have so many threats coming, and we're doing nothing about it, because a bunch of monsters* have taken everything over. *Again, I'm an empathy for all person, even "monsters". These people are products of their genetics, environment, and culture like anyone else. Nature and nurture and all that. I don't believe in Evil. People didn't need to wind up like this. If we had a healthier society, a healthier/better education and mental healthcare system, these people could have turned out better. No one is perfect, and if I am on the wrong side of something, I would want people to have love, empathy, and patience with me, trying to get me to understand. If that's the kind of thing *I* would want, it is only right to offer it in turn. Again, these people are an existential threat, though, and my empathy for them does not outweigh my empathy for EVERYONE ELSE. It does not negate that their actions and rhetoric are making us less safe every day. It feels like we are already in a civil war. They are looking for excuses to justify more and more violence. How are we supposed to keep advocating that people not defend themselves and others from what *is* an existential threat. They will not listen to reason. This administration is not going to stop what they're doing, they're not going to give up power or let themselves ever be held accountable. Things are going to escalate until states and the federal government are shooting at one another. We are going to have police stations and military members fighting with one another when this shit all explodes. A nightmare is coming. How long are we supposed to keep advocating for non-violence? How close are we supposed to get to these people actively and directly murdering immigrants or "undesirables." They have assassinated people on the left, and tried for 3 more. They're throwing this faux outrage over Kirk but plenty were happy about those attempts/assassinations. I understand, and generally agree that we should not be cheering for anyone's death. It is horrible that it has happened. But… what else are we supposed to do? Wait for gerrymandered/rigged elections? Wait how many more years? Things in this country have been fucked since before I was paying attention, before I was born, and there have already been too many things that I have had to tell myself and accept "aren't happening in my lifetime." And now we are moving backwards. We will be lucky if we get back to the shitty status quo we had before all this shit. These people are stealing a stable/safe future from us. I can not be happy knowing the amount of suffering that is happening every day. The stress is taking years off our lives, killing us all slowly. They are in a cult, and they are forcing us all to drink the punch. I, at my core, agree with the sentiment that we should should not harm people for their comments. That we should not be happy for the death of others… but we do not extend that thought to people like Hitler, or Bin Laden. We are all going to feel better when Putin is gone. Why is it considered okay to feel good when monsters that want, and are actively trying, to cause irreparable harm to people. I think that life is precious and irreplaceable. I don't want anyone hurt, but I don't see how we're supposed to avoid that. It feels like were just going to keep letting them kill people, directly or not, kill us all… I don't know how to reconcile wanting to minimize harm… but how are we supposed to coexist with people who are actively advocate for our deaths. Who are actively destroying our future… I don't know how to process this. I don't know how to be on the right/moral side, when where we are, and where we're heading. I don't know how I'm supposed to discuss these thoughts/feelings without being perceived or labeled as an advocate for violence. i feel shame and guilt at these thoughts. This is not the world I want to live in.

Armando MC

It was rough hearing how a shooter's posts about SMN affected you all. So sorry you all went through that.