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Thank you SO MUCH to everyone who shared their thoughts and opinions about what the French translation could be! There were... many, many suggestions 😂 which, as a person with extremely basic Duolingo-based French skills, is a bit tricky for me to choose between!

I thought I'd move the conversation to its own post.

My aim is to have a translation that is as close/accurate to the English as possible, as well as conveying Stephane's annoyed tone and of course sounding like something a native French speaker would say.

I'll go with Allez, arrête de pleurer, Nicholas for the first line!

As for the second line, my general thoughts are:

  • Any use of 'revenir' doesn't feel quite right to me as that translates to 'come back' or 'return', which isn't exactly what Stephane says. (Also might imply Stephane will never come back, which isn't what he says and would be very evil!)

  • I think it should still use vouloir (je ne veux pas) because that's what Stephane says in the English, rather than just skipping to the venir.

  • We could change the line to make him sound more annoyed or whatever else, but then we just get into a whole world of possibilities, so it's probably best to just stick to a fairly straight translation in this instance! I was interested to learn the word 'pleurnicher', I'd never heard that before - it would work if Stephane had used the word 'whining' or 'whinging' or 'snivelling' perhaps, but he didn't, so I won't use it here.

So, with that being said, I think these options feel closest to me:

  • OPTION 1: Je ne veux pas venir ici si c’est pour que tu pleures

  • OPTION 2: Je ne veux pas venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer

  • OPTION 3: Je ne veux pas venir ici si tu pleures tout le temps

[Just to remind you of the original line, it's: I don't want to come here if you're just going to cry!]

Do any of these options sound right to you guys? Does one sound more natural than the others? If you have a strong preference, please shout! Google tells me option 2 is the most accurate direct translation.

Let me know your thoughts (this will probably still be a very confusing choice at the end of the day 😂 but thank you for your help!!) I hugely appreciate your help - I had no idea we had so many French readers in the Patreon community!!

Comments

Mitch Corbett

Option two is definitely more natural!

Heather Young

Option 2 definitely (and yes, I used google translate 🫣🤭)

Andrea Oberlin

I think "Je ne voudrai plus venir si tu pleures tout le temps" (I won’t wanna come anymore if you’re always crying) would sound best here. That’s what a French dad would say anyway

Yadira Aparicio

man i wish i could help but i only speak spanish 😂😂 i’m just like “damn, poor nick” LMAO NFKFND

Juliette Gaillet

As a French person, option 2 feels more natural !

Axel

The second one is the closest in my opinion

Lili

As a french canadian I think 2-3 is the most natural and realistic! ^_^

gabs

definitely between option 2 and 3, but in my opinion 2 hits a lot harder if i imagine someone saying it to a child!

Samnel21

Hi Alice, as a French native, option 2 is the more acurate. Which translate best the « just » in your original english.

Jasmine M

Option 2 (grew up speaking french)!

Geneviève

As a native French speaker, I feel option 2 is the most natural and resembles most your original line in English :)

ximena cruz

option 2 is def what a french parent would say

Amandine Marengo Coucq

As a French speaker I think all 3 options are accurate but I think option 2 is the best

Anaïs

Hi Alice, native French speaker here. I know you have those three options BUT I feel like instead of "je ne veux pas" we would rather say "je n'ai pas envie" when speaking. So "Je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer." sounds the best to me. I don't know what the others think, but for me "Je ne veux pas venir" doesn't sound really right.

Alex Nadeau

I think option 2 is the best translation, but the way we would express it more in french would be "je ne vais pas venir ici" (i will not come here) instead

EC

“To come here” means “to come visit you” yes? I don’t speak French at all lol but I was sort of confused by what was happening… Stephane is visiting from France I assume.

Merel

You really summoned the French 🇫🇷

Alexandra

I am also a basic user of French, and the second option sounds the best for me as well.

Fanny Pack

Option 2 for sure ahah ! I’m a bit different cause I’m Canadian French but it’s closest to both the translation and what I would say !

Thomas Bird

Hope you do realise what an international hit Heartstopper is, of course French speakers want to support Awesome Alice on Patreon! I’m not French speaking so can offer no advice, but looking forward to see where Nick’s feeling are headed. A great panel

Benjamin Lob

The issue is that we don't use "vouloir" in the exact same way as the English "want". We tend to just take it out of the sentence and focus on the real action verb (to come here) which will carry the negation. The idea is that he doesn't want to stay in Nick's room if he's crying or he that he doesn't want to stay with him?

Samad Siddiqui

Hi Alice! Of the 3 options you've given, the second one feels the most correct in terms of conveying the meaning of the original line. The other two have different literal and figurative meanings that don't quite grasp it. Je ne veux pas venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer... I don't want to come here if all you do is cry. So grateful to be a part of your creative process!

Garde Estelle

From a French speaker, option 2 is the best possible one 👍🏻

BEL

Option 2!

Marine 🍂

As a 35 years old native french girl (from France) i will say Option 3 or Option 2 But NOT Option 1

Benjamin Lob

For the second part "si c'est pour que tu pleures" is the most idiomatic. 😊

lady Clare

Option 2 is fine. But I still think people would rather say (in a way to be rude) "j'ai pas envie de venir ici si c'est pour que tu pleures" which is really not a kind thing to say to a child. Bonne chance with that Alice.

Chris

Option 1 is definitely wrong cause it’s like Stephane is the reason why Nick is crying Option 2 or 3 are good and basically the same meaning in french

Anne-Lise Torre

I'll go for option 2 that's the most accurate

aliceoseman

Okay, lots of reports now that the 'veux' is actually the problem and doesn't sound natural... why is this so hard 😓

Geneviève Mathieu

French translator here, I'd say option 2 if I have to choose, but I really like Andrea Oberlin's suggestion ("Je ne voudrai plus venir si tu pleures toujours").

ellie

as a native French speaker I do think the second is more natural and closest to the line you wrote alice! and it does imply a very lengthy "crying session" from nick and the annoyance of Stephane about it. whereas the 3rd one implies he does it all the time, 24/7 so yeah 2nd one is a good choice !

Josh Andallo

I was gonna suggest “ça va faire,” but then I realized Stéphane isn’t Québécois, haha! 😆

BEL

Actually agree with this. Je n’ai pas envie de… that captures the frustration and lack of desire.

Sandrine

French speaker here, option 2 is the best. Also has a tint of disdain. Alternatively option 3 but get rid of option 1

Benjamin Lob

You could say "Je ne reste pas dans ta chambre/avec toi si c'est pour que..." or softer "Je préfère m'en aller, si c'est pour que..." (we also probably wouldn't use "ici" since he's already "ici")

Matthieu Caron

As a French person, option 3 seems more natural to me in terms of meaning and purpose, all 3 are equal, but option 3 seems fairer and more French. Thank you for the enormous and magnificent work that you do.

ellie

or maybe je ne veux plus venir si tu ne fais que pleurer?? to convey the annoyance of Stephane?

Benjamin Lob

Do you mean to say that he won't visit him anymore? (or are his parents still together at this stage?)

Jupin thomas

option 2 is the best in my opinion (for a French native)

Anne-Lise Torre

But as native French speaking it's not sounding as a native with "je ne veux pas" at least I'd go for "je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu pleurs" or "je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si c'est pour que tu pleurs" It's difficult to keep the same words as in english we don't give the same meaning to them, we're French 😅

agathe

Option 2 is what sound the closest to the english phrase but as Anaïs explain french people would said "Je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer".

Katy

Option 2!

Laurence M.

As a French Canadian, I would say, keeping the wording of the three options, it would be more natural, to say "Je ne voudrais plus te visiter, si tu ne fais que pleurer" Using the present tense in French with "venir" doesn't quite feel natural, but using the conditional suggest that the dad won't want to come visit in the future if Nick is always crying when he's visiting. Another option would be "Je ne veux pas être ici si tu ne fais que pleurer" ou "Je ne veux pas te voir si tu ne fais que pleurer." Both of them are quite harsher than the first one, suggesting that the Dad is quite annoyed and doesn't want to be there because Nick's crying. They mean, respectively, "I don't want to be here if the only thing you're doing is cry" and "I don't want to see you if the only thing you're doing is cry". And the last suggestion, the harshest of the three would be simply. "Je refuse de continuer de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer". It translates to "I refuse to continue coming here if the only thing you're doing is crying." Refuse in French is a bit softer and more often used than its English counterpart. I based this on the fact that the dad is from France, because in Quebec, he would simply say "J'veux pu te voir si t'es juste pour pleurer". ;)

Benjamin Lob

(I'm a translator working in the dubbing industry, and my job is to make sentences sound natural, hopefully 😅)

Bevulio

Option 2

aliceoseman

Thank you everyone for the comments! Generally people are saying OPTION 2 works best, but that it does still feel a little unnatural to some people. Do either of these sound any better? OPTION A: Je ne vais pas venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer OPTION B: Je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer (Sorry this is so complicated, I just know a bad translation can really annoy people and take them out of their reading experience 😓)

Chris

Bonne chance pour choisir Alice !! 😅

Nicky Van den Bosch

Option 2 feels most natural to the way I speak french, that said, I am a native french speaker but I've been living for the past 20 years in the german part of switzerland and only speak french with my family, so don't take my word for it 😊 Just wanted to add that the way you realy think about every little detail up to a accurate but still natural french translation and include your readership is soooo amazing!

Calfic

I took French for three years in high school, and it was so hard. Feel your pain!

Anaïs

Option B for me. Option A means more "I'm not gonna come here if all you do is cry"

aniatka

I also liked one option somebody suggested to use the word "pleurnicher" instead of "pleurer". It's nasty and more disdaineful and more informal also. Dislike it but I can easly imagine Stephane saying it 😪❤️

Jo S

Not a French speaker but I love this community!! 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

Anne de Muyser

Option 2 Is the most similar to the English Version

Jenny Delcher

Hi Alice I am another French native. From the 3 options, I would say option 2, however I’d like to suggest another one which would be much more French native I believe (maybe because I am from the south near Narbonne like Stephane) : « Je ne veux pas venir si c’est pour te voir pleurer » Or even stronger : « Je ne reviendrais plus si c’est pour te voir pleurer » Which literally means « I do not want to come if it is to see you cry ». And « I won’t come back if it is to see you cry ». Which is (in French anyway) putting even more guilt on Nick from Stephane. Hope this helps. X

Nicky Van den Bosch

Just read through some of the comments and I agree that "Je n'ai pas envie" is actualy the way I would say it! Fells very natural

Jenny Delcher

Hi Laurence, we do not use the verb « visiter » in French from France, ce serait plutôt « rendre visite » but that would be very formal.

EllieRLM

If i had to rank them from best to "worst" : 1. Option 2 2. Option 3 3. Option 1 Option 2 feels like the more accurate translation and the most natural for an adult french speaker !

Emily

My 3 years of French from high school are failing me lol. But I love this lil Patreon community♥️

Tom Birdienumnums

Absolutely option 2. It's exactly what was expressed in English, sounds native, and it flows well in French.

Hayley

Out of the 3 options, #2 is the only one that flows nicely in French :) I’d definitely go with that one! Sounds the most natural

Jenny Delcher

Ps: to me « vouloir » works perfectly in my 1st suggestion, but could be replaces by « Je ne vais pas venir si c’est pour te voir pleurer »   Also we have different ways of speaking depending where we are in France, and even more in other French speaking countries. Do not put too much pressure on yourself, I am convinced that your efforts will be greatly appreciated by French speakers. PPs: in French Nicolas doesn’t have the « h » like in English. So it might be a great French wink, if you write the page in French, if Stéphane said « Allez, arrête de pleurer Nicolas! »

Tina

is there anyway you can ask the person who did the french consulting for the show?

askmetodance

Hi Alice! First thing first, I love you and I love your work so, I would like to say that I love also the fact that you ask us for help for your creation. Having said that, I think option 3 is the best because it sounds better and the meaning is the closer one for what Stephane wants to transmit. I have a French boyfriend and I lived years in France and I would probably go for the option three because it’s something that I I’ve already heard. Also option 2 is fine but is too much literal, it’s too much “translator”. So the 3 I think is the best. I send you all my love. Irene ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Sandrine

« J’ai pas envie » rather than « je n’ai pas envie « 

EllieRLM

Fourth option : "Je n'ai pas envie de venir si tu ne fais que pleurer !" Replacing "vouloir" pas "ne pas avoir envie" might make the sentence sound even more natural...

ivy miskell

i think option 2 is definitely better, although if i was saying it i would probably say option 3, even if it wasn’t right😭

Merel

I'm not French, but I just want to say I really appreciate you putting this much care and attention into even the smallest details. You truly love Heartstopper. It shows in everything you do, and that love in turn radiates through to us as readers. It's one of the many things that make Heartstopper so special and beloved ❤️

Merel

Ah yes, how could I forget my southern neighbour! 🫡

Mathilde Landry

Option 2 definitely is the translation that’s feels best. That’s the one recreates the same feeling of frustration/irritation in French and in English

Tina

or even the french translator for your books through your agent?

Mathilde Landry

Depends A feels more like for Stephan seeing Nick is a chore already and he mad that is cry. B feels more empathetic, like he wants to be there with he’s son and that’s why Nick shouldn’t cry.

JSBM

Hello! I'm a native French speaker from Québec, Canada, who speak regularly with people in France :) Overall the options feel unnatural. They don't read like something that would actually be said in a casual conversation. "Je n'ai pas envie" or "ça ne me tente pas" is better than "je ne veux pas" -- the meaning in French feels subtly different than what "want" is in English. It's also a bit less discordant with the clash of the tenses: "je ne veux pas" is something said of only right now, pure present tense, while "je n'ai pas envie" is more continuous, something true in general, so it aligns better with the end of the sentence, which is conditional (so more in the future). For the end of the sentence tho, all three sound good. Also note that in general, the "ne" particle is mostly vestigial in spoken French. Nowadays it's not said often and is mostly skipped. That said, in some cases, particularly when somebody want to stress the negative aspect of the sentence, it is kept. So here I would keep them. My personal choices would be: * "Je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer". While in general it feel a bit literary, it works in this context, as it is an adult talking to a child and being dismissive. * "Je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu fais juste pleurer". This feel the most natural and something that I would actually hear somebody say, and is the closest of the original translation. I'm curious however to hear the opinion of somebody from France, because it also feels more Québécois, I'm not sure if it feels also natural for them over there. Hope it helps :)

Julieta

I think option 2 is the one

Sasha Edge

My favourite version is #2! I am not a native French speaker, but I have lived in France for 11 years now and hopefully getting my citizenship in a month or two 😁 Alice, I truly admire your attention to the translation!!

Noemiette

Definitely option B, sounds more natural (we will just eat half the words while saying it out loud but it works). Said out loud in a casual way by a native speaker will be more like "J'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu fais que pleurer", but the written version is still good Option A is a little off

Nicolas

Hello hello ! French guy from France here. If you want to stay as close to English as possible while seeming very French, option 3 seems the best to me. However in French (without thinking about the English translation) to convey the idea you want to express we would say something like « Ça ne m’intéresse pas de venir si c’est pour que tu pleures tout le temps ». Literally : I’m not interested in coming if you’re going to cry all the time.

ucfnurse

Sounds great☺️😊👍🌞🌻🎄✌️🕊️☮️

Mariane

Yes, yes "Je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer" sounds way more natural !

Tom Rielly

Approuvé avec le mec français, I think that 3 is best , both simple language and a bit whiny/mean.

Flor D. la Peña🍂

French teacher here ✋🏼 Definitely option 3 is the one that’s suits the best in my opinion because of how natural can sound, in fact you can even erase the first part of the negative “ne” if you want it to sound more native “Je veux pas venir ici si tu pleures tout le temps” Hope this helps more ! Thank you for being open with suggestions Alice!

Noemiette

I think overall option 2 and 3 sound good (prefer option 2 though) but as a few people mention, saying "j'ai pas envie de venir ici si [...]" might sound more natural than "je ne veux pas venir ici" which is a tiny bit of a mouthful

Noemiette

Who would have thought tbh that such a small and simple phrase would be that complicated to translate xD

Cliff

I’m not a native French speaker, so take this with a grain of salt, but Option B “Je n’ai pas envie de venir…” sounds better to me.

Julie W

French speaker here and option B for me too ! Suggestion "je n'ai pas envie de venir ici pour te voir pleurer constamment".

Catherine

Québécoise ici aussi et je suis d’accord avec toutes tes suggestions. « Je n’ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer » me semble la meilleure phrase pour décrire le sens voulu en anglais. « Ça ne me tente pas » est sans doute un peu trop typiquement québécois ;-)

Nae

Hi! Option B sounds more natural as a French speaker. As some people suggested you can use « pleurnicher » (or « chouiner ») instead of « pleurer ». Both are used to refer, in a negative or dismissive way, to someone (often a child) who is crying.

Catherine

Thank you Alice! As a Quebecer whose mother tongue is French, "je ne veux pas venir" is not a phrase that would be naturally spoken orally. As JSBM said, "Je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer" seems to be the best option and closest to the English version.

Lou ✨

option 2 🇫🇷🫶🏼

Catherine

Hahaha ! Je suis crampée ! J’entends bien la voix du père moustachu des années 90’ dire ça 🤣

Alexandra B

yay ! lots of french speaking readers here 😄

Krystyn

Thank you Alice. As a French person, I would go for option 2, it sounds the most natural and it conveys Stephane’s annoyance.

Lexie Deiters

Hey ! As a native French person, I would suggest you something like "je n'ai pas envie de venir ici si c'est pour que tu pleures." or something like that ! Otherwise, option 2 seems the closest to it 💙

Marc VOLINE

Hello, Just discovered the debate. I'm a native French speaker and translator, and the most accurate translarion is number 1. Best wishes, Marc

Alexandra B

don't worry too much about the options, you refined the translation enough already the nuances between the options are more about everyone's sensibility, but anyway they sound very natural 👍

zahnd

Hello, native french speaker here ! All three options are good, but I think the third one rolls off the tongue better... Because as others have said, we NEVER say the "ne" in "je NE veux pas" or "tu NE fais que pleurer". It is correct french, but like, we only write it if that makes sense. As for the first part of the line, you can also lose the "ne" if you're comfortable with it, or you could say "je vais pas venir ici..." or as others suggested, "j'ai pas envie de venir ici...", it feels more like "natural" spoken french to me !

Irene.a.f

My French is bupkis - less than nothing - but I just love this!

Gal Bennett

I would go with « Je n’ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer ! » Some people have suggested « pleurnicher » because it’s more mocking than « pleurer », but the sense of « pleurnicher » is closer to « whine » or « winge ». So « Je n’ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurnicher ! » would be closer to « I don’t want to come here if you’re just going to whine/ winge! » [Edited for typo!]

Fabiola

Je suis française et je dirais (I would say) je n’ai pas du tout envie de venir si tout ce que tu fais c’est pleurer . Because he is not implying that it is his fault if Nick cries.

elisa

i think option 2 is the more accurate, but also i would translate it « i don’t want » to « je n’ai pas envie » so the whole sentence would be « je n’ai pas envie de venir ici si tu ne fais que pleurer »

Marie

Personally I find that option 2 works best (from someone who speaks French)

Marine 🍂

Option B (as a 35 years old french woman) seems more natural to me. Because Nick's dad have to travel to see him right ? He have take the train or a plane. So Nick's dad can't come whenever he wants (je n'ai pas envie : i don't want to). So if Nick's dad want to say : please Nick don't cry because i can't go in England whenever i want. It's option B

DogBefriender22

Bilingual and dual nationality English/French person here - who was, btw, v impressed with Nick’s natural sounding French in S2 (and that those speaking French in Paris actually were/sounded French - that’s not always the case and can be really annoying! Totally agree about dropping the ‘ne’ to make it sound more natural and conversational - especially if it’s meant to be ‘spoken’ French (I know it’s written down here, and yes you would normally write it with the ‘ne’ to be grammatically correct text book French, but this seems to be a recollection of spoken words and so I think it’s definitely ok to drop the ‘ne’ Also the most natural sounding version I read on here/above was something like ‘ ça m’intéresse pas de venir ici si tu fait rien que pleurer’ which is less formal, and more like something an annoyed parent would say to a child - I think - and I think you could keep the English words the same, even though it’s not an exact/literal translation (like in an exam) - because it conveys the same feeling and meaning. If I read both of those lines I would be happy with both the French and the English meanings and it would sound authentic to me

Deepblueskies

All three would work. Option 2 slightly better in my view.

DogBefriender22

Also - your final choice for the first line ‘Allez, arrête de pleurer, Nicholas’ is perfect 👍🏻

Fabiola

In fact do not add « ici » to the sentence it is redundant. Venir implies ici. Je je ne viendrai pas si tout ce que tu fais c’est pleurer etc

Kassie K Wilson

How English-centric am I that I didn’t even see the French? 🫣 yikes.

Adriana

Option 2 makes the most sense in this case!

Chris

But imo it’s also important to not have a too different sentence that the English one :/ so Option A here is the best

StephMcC

Option 2 means “I don’t want to come here if you do nothing but cry.” That sounds like the best option to me. (It’s also so terribly sad. 😢)

Charlie

I keep thinking of the scene in shrek when Lord Farquard is trying to pick a princess and the guard says pick number three my lord and hold up two fingers. 😂😂😂😂 Eeenie meenie miney mo would probably work too 🤣🤣🤣

Earl Flairon

As a French Canadian dude, option 2 sounds the best to me

DogBefriender22

This is the best suggestion I’ve seen so far Jenny 👍🏻 ‘Je ne veux pas venir si c’est pour te voir pleurer’ Although I said before about dropping the ‘ne’ - keeping it in this sentence adds emphasis to the ‘not’ element (of him not wanting to come) so I think it’s good to keep it here. The ‘te voir pleurer’ addition is spot on for this - Sounds very authentic

Andrew Pitonack

Thank you Alice for making this as authentic as you can. American here with no French skills. lol, I'm very glad for making this real as possible. I love your books and the show, this story for me hits on so many levels. You are amazing!

Jon Goerner

Je m'emmerde de ce connard. (Pardon my French.)

Ellen🌈✨

when the comic is translated into french, will there be double french? 🤨🤔😆

moon

french canadian here too! and yeah, it sounds the best to me 🤷

Flor López

I translated to Spanish (my first language) and it matches option 2 (I know some French if that helps).

Sof

option number 2 would be perfect imo

Salome

Option two sounds the most natural out if the three. That being said, I just can’t help but feel that “Je ne veux pas venir ici” is not quite something a native speaker would say in this situation. It sounds a little off to me. If we are talking about the future - as in Stephane thinking about coming again and how seeing Nick cry does not really feel great - “Je ne veux plus venir si c’est (toujours) pour te voir pleurer” (I don’t want to come anymore if you are always going to cry) would be more natural (but a bit harsher as it suggests that Stephane might not want to come back). In French, it could be more natural to say something like « Je ne fais pas tout ce chemin pour te voir pleurer » ( I don’t come all this way to see you crying.) or « Je n’ai pas envie de venir si c’est pour te voir toujours pleurer. » I feel « avoir envie » is less heavy than “vouloir.”

Eve Parker

Another vote for Option 2 as it flows/sounds the most natural but I also wonder if omitting the "ici" sounds better honestly in both languages: "I don't want to come [here] if you do nothing but cry." You could also consider "I don't want to visit [you] if all you do is cry" "je ne veux pas te rendre visite si tu ne fais que pleurer"..

Geneviève Brossard

Option 2. Ce qui fait le plus de sens pour une québécoise

Ignacia

me as a person who doesn’t know a word of french, but is very enthusiastic about language learning in this comment section 👁️👄👁️🍿🤏🏽

Gabz

As someone who speaks “Quebec” french option 2 is the one that feels more natural for me and is the closest to the direct translation you wanted!

April

This is something I believe is generally considered with translating media for a foreign audience, and I think is still valid in this instance. It doesn't need to be a word-for-word translation, because languages, especially conversational, very rarely work like that. So long as the overall meaning is kept and it follows a similar structure as best it can between English and French, if there are slight differences in the literal translation then that's fine. No language is spoken as though it were a literal translation of another. [Edit: This is coming from a native English (well, Aussie English) speaker who consumes a large amount of Japanese media, but is very aware that nothing would make sense if said media was translated word-for-word from past experience]

Audrina

Native French speaker (and massive Heartstopper fan) here ❤️ first of all THANK YOU for caring so much about the translation, it means the world 🥺 all these options sound very narural, but imo option 2 is the closest to the original English sentence! Hope that helps

Audrina

Saw a lot of people in the comments say they're from Québec, I'm from France. We (mostly) all seem to agree on option 2 no matter where we're from!

T

I speak French as a second language, and I know this is written French, but wouldn’t we want to drop the “ne” if it’s less formal? More slangy?

Jess

Native French to, option 2 is the better

Katia Gómez

I am not a native speaker, but grown up around French native speakers, lived in France for a year for uni, and speak French of course! Option 2 sounds the most natural to me, the most accurate translation would be in my option “I don’t want to come here if all you’re gonna do is cry”

Steph Rozier

As a french, définitivement option 2

Asliana

I can't add anything to the discussion about French, but i can recommend a great tool for translations: deepl.com Way better than google :)

Flor López

I agree. Just remembered about it and just used it. The translation it gave me: "Je ne veux pas venir ici si c'est pour pleurer".

BEL

Option B !

BEL

But whatever you choose in the end, Alice, it will be the perfect choice! However looking forward to seeing the French version of this page (ie in the French volume. Wonder how that’ll work!$ 🤣

chloé

i’m not a french native, but speak it fluently and translate french - english for work. and deepl is definitely one of the most accurate auto translation tools, not perfect but it’s pretty good!

Giano Mayne

Option 2 for me - I’m Swiss French Another variant would be : je veux pas venir si tu fais que chialer

Kyro Van Sant

I'm a Haitian Creole speaker so I can get through French pretty well so I would go with option 2

Emilie

Option 2 is great but for me a good one would also be : "Je veux pas venir te voir si tu fais que pleurer." if "come here" means coming into his bedroom, I think "venir te voir" is good because if his father is hearing him cry from the hallway he doesn't want to come see him in his bedroom if he's just going to cry. Anyway i think "ici" is little out of place in this sentence.

Neenie

Maybe just normal French? Pokemon games are funny because foreigners speak English in the non-English localizations

Catherine

Au Québec, chialer = se plaindre ou critiquer sans arrêt! 😅 Alors j’éviterais ce mot qui amène un autre sens selon le pays du dit francophone ;-)

Emily Cavender

i asked my friend who was born and raised in france, and he says option 3!

Jonathan W Conklin

Option 2; the "ne-que" translates to "just" or "only" and fits best with the original English line.

Ben

hey Alice ! I'd vote option 2 but remove the 'ne' to make it more informal, so 'je veux pas' :))

Mat

Late to the french party, but I'd go with option 2.

scrapidi

I think option 2 is the most natural! I've said or heard "tu fais que pleurer" (without the "ne") plenty of times in the past, especially during an argument :')

Camille

I'm so late but I never realised that the french heartstopper community was so big !!