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Suing the Devil (Patreon)

Published:
2025-03-10 19:10:41
Imported:
2026-06

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This week, American Atheists legal director Geoff Blackwell joins us for possibly the least accurate courtroom drama in all of cinematic history.

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Sporkbender

By far the worst Stryper record.

Fren

Okay. A bit judgy about the popcorn.

Golden

I was so intrigued by this one I actually watched it (free on YouTube). I think it could literally be a Christian movie bingo all square

One I'd Nick

I know that you can object during opening/closing statements, because it happened during the Alex Jones trial. They had to object to Norm Pattis trying to relitigate the case that had been defaulted already.

Angela Earle

Agreed. Obvi doesn’t understand how crying into your massive bowl/bag of popcorn just makes it more salty, delicious and healing.

Thorn

Clessy versus Luciferguson is possibly my favorite pun of all time from Heath

Stella

Hell yeah, Prelude to War is fucking tight. The whole Battlestar Galactica soundtrack is tbh. I would absolutely use that version of "All Along the Watchtower" for entry music ✌️

Matt

Slayer really fell off for this one.

Matt

Sleep tight, Eli.

Laura Lusby

LOL The court reporter is literally pantomiming typing! They didn’t have “court transcription machine” money! I’m dying over here!

Markus Nävergård

Cant Satan just go " well, you all do know that this is my job, God gave me this job, i am not Lucifer, that is another one and i am not the snake, that was just a snake, none of you read the Bible?"

Denise Huston

Kinda want a claymation musical where each of these lawyers has a verse like the Heat Miser about their whole deal.

Denise Huston

Malcolm McDowell has acting chops, but he was also in one of the Home Alone sequels, so like...he doesn't exactly have strict standards, here.

Cyanmoon1

I don't know if this is what was happening with the subtitles, but in disability circles words like mor*n and idi*t are slurs, just like the r-slur, and for the exact same reason. If you wouldn't use the r-slur, you should maybe rethink your use of other intelligence-based insults!

Sammypt

Apprappo of nothing… I love it! Thanks for sharing and I’m glad you survived

Leslie Kavara Customs

The caption censoring is a YouTube thing; its an ongoing issue of captions treating the hearing impaired as children.

KeepingThePlatesSpinning

This show is so good! Mayflower 2 will always be my fav. I listen to it anytime I’m down but this one is going to be second! Love it!

I Fight Horny Patron Names

"We've never had a guest provide more notes than the rest of us combined" This is Bryce Blakenagle erasure

Nate

“Plessy V Luciferguson” Bravo gentleman ❤️

Pamela

I don't think Noah gets to criticise any Australian's Texan accent after his attempt at an Australian one 🤣

Outer Dimension Reviews (edited)

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2026-09-08 12:00 I think Malcolm McDowell just does movies where he can have fun these days. He's paid his dues many times over so we occasionally get movies like this or Tank Girl.
2025-03-11 23:09

Adam Martin

If it makes you feel better Malcom McDowell most likely did not pay anything in producing this movie but the Executive Producer title is often given to actors instead of their pay rate so they make more on the backend of the movie than upfront.

Adam Martin

Likely he took some payment upfront, so if his usual rate is 5 million maybe he took 1 million but he gets a chunk of any money the movie makes, which is kind of a win win for him. If no one sees the movie and it makes no money he still got the initial payment and doesn’t have to deal with the embarrassment of being in it if it becomes a success he gets lots of money and can show off the addition he built onto his house if asked about doing the movie.

Patrick Carr

When Noah was describing the courtroom reactions and said “Corbin Bernsen went wild,@ I immediately thought “and punched Charlie Sheen.”

Vausch Abendroth

I love McDowell but I think he's had that mindset for over 30 years now. He played Ryuken in the live action Fist of the North Star.

Athena Larissaia

Okay, but the movie trying to use Job as an example of the devil's evil nature or whatever is a wild pick. Considering in that story god literally told the devil to do it!

LochUnruly

I feel like Malcom is one of those British actors from the same era/mindset as Michael Caine, and John Rhys Davies, where acting is a job and you don't turn down work. You show up you do your best and you get your check, doesn't matter what it is or if it's good, it's work and it pays.

perminal

The actor is a Porn Again Christian.

This is not the greatest song in the world; this is just a patron name.

So, it occurred to me that you haven't done any of the best good/bad at all: The Riddick series. It's the Vin Diesel writing quality of XXX and Fast&Furious, but with badly thought-out science fiction. Takes itself _very_ seriously while being impossible to take serious.

Michael Rops

I know I’m late and I’m old (I make Noah look like a kid) but Tom Jones was thought to be of the devil in my parents generation.

Party Cat

I'll be at the convention!! I live in Rochester MN (1.5 hours south of Minneapolis) so you're in my town! I didn't see anyone from your podcast universe listed as speakers. Hopefully there will be a panel or show of some kind!

Party Cat

I really appreciate the education!

Markus D

I think it has more to do with YouTube wanting to be more appropriate for children despite that being insane and stupid considering they have a version FOR CHILDREN. See also all the stuff that people have to avoid saying in order to not get demonetised nowadays.

Markus D

I'm autistic and I'm torn between "okay, I don't want to offend people" and " don't take away my hobbies".

Cyanmoon1

I'm autistic too, and nonbinary. I find that a lot of the time, just existing offends people enough... But in this case it's not about causing offence. It's about denigrating a (very) vulnerable and marginalised group. Look online for 'non-ableist insults,' I promise you there's plenty to pick from :)