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Okay, as promised, the not-teasers are over. The writing of a story which shall-not-be-named is over too.

I am shifting to The odds were never in my favour tomorrow, I have several interesting ideas I want to test upon...

Anyway. The not-chapter has been sent to the betas, who have been told, in front of Commissars and Lords Inquisitor, to send it back before the end of October. We will see how well they will obey this holy command.

I have written 44,000 words or so for this not-chapter, which is slightly more than I wanted, but I think I'm approaching more reasonable lenghts. For Arc 13, I'm certainly going to aim for 30,000-35,000 words. It may fail, but it's an objective...

Oh, and by the way don't scream too loudly when you happen to read the last two scenes. I wouldn't want you your neighbourhood to believe you are mad...

And yes, the cliffhangers are evil. I assume that completely.

Enjoy!

Comments

Vortiboy27

I must admit, this is one way the Minotaurs come into play is pretty good, with a chapter master that can out fight a Custodes.

Vortiboy27

I imagine that the Emperor knows of these Traitors and awaits for them to fully amass their armies and strength so when they inevitably crush it, no one will betray the Emperor in such a manner again.

Boris Michenski

You know, as far as evil cliffhangers go, it was not so bad. So, on one side we have Primaris unveiled, and I imagine that the Rubicon being passed more and more in coming years will diminish the resentment of full Primaris Marines when they are unleashed one day. Wonder if it would for Tyranids, or sooner. On the other side, we have Bile, who intends to use the conspirator's resources to build his own Legion - at least that is how I understand his plan. I do wonder, how many of these traitors are Deceiver's puppets. And the big question: who will be the first to inform Weaver about their plans? Emperor and Custodes? Eldars? Or maybe Cypher?

Jeremy

So after reading the ending of the chapter how Goldenbaum can think of killing Weaver is anyway a good idea. Most of the conspirators I have written off as either foolish / incompetent or secretly traitors, but Goldenbaum seems to be both intelligent and while ambitious.. competent. He should be expecting if they use Sol Fleet assets to kill Weaver, then those fleet assets will be forced to fight the equivalent of 30k legion with the number of chapters that will be looking for retribution. Though Marat also confuses me somewhat... part of me think he is another traitor like Cypher an Fabius, since as an Inquistor I was expecting him to know about the Grey Knights and might mention to his conspirators that there is potentially a chapter equivalent force near Terra that would support Weaver. Altogether great chapter... surprisingly I enjoy these political / build up arcs more than the actual war arcs. So looking forward to what comes next.

Christian Biondo

The cliff hanger! Gotta say, Bile is probably one of the more hateable characters in WH. I really can't wait to see him get a much needed punch in the face. Loved the chapter, can't wait for more! P.S. Bit mean to use the Minotaur's this way isn't it? Their such a nice chapter in canon. =p

Mali Gremlin

Silly question … considering all the unanswered questions you are answering (missing primarcs and all) will you give your answer to who is the progenitor of Blood Ravens? 😁

mastergamer98007

Well we got a lot of interesting things, primaris will be slowly rolled out instead of all at once. We got a good look at what the Reign of Terror may be, well good news by the time taylor gets to see Big E, she would have probably killed most of her big opponents blocking her to make the imperium better overall. The Gathering of Evil make include Fabius with his planned minotaurs (which I guess can be quite the theory to their canon origin being iron hands instead of world eater or iron warriors) and Cypher who may or may not be with Either Luther or Deceiver (Who he did meet in canon having stabbed with with a ctan dagger) or Neither. It's good theory baiting before we get to when ever the showdown between the Idiots and Fabius and maybe Cypher VS Weaver and Gang takes place.

Templar9999

I was expecting Taylor to head to Cathacan to deal with the known Tyranid issue there before heading back to Nyx. I know you wont give away spoilers, but does Taylor have any plans to deal with the known Tyranids already present in the galaxy? And not just because I want to see a Legion Titanicus Catacha made up of golden Catachan Devils. We already know that Fabius REALLY wants coffee. What about chocolate? And the odds are decent Taylor has both. Due to similar growing conditions, and the likelyhood of the original colonists preserving both if given the opportunity. Beyond the humor of that... Talk about a cassus beli. Allying with Bile would be all that Taylor and the Custodes needs to thoroughly purge the adeptus terra. Even if they never manage to openly attack Weaver, they have already doomed themselves. When they do... Guiliman is going to have fun reorganizing the entire beauracracy of the Imperium.

Hunter

“And Weaver? Many in the Sea of Souls are afraid of her.” “For good reason,” Fabius agreed. “This is why I have several gifts for her...and in case they fail to calm her, I will be far away, leaving our good friends Xerxes Vandire and the other pitiful conspirators to be on the receiving end of her wrath.” You meant to type calm her? Odd implication would have thought it would be claim/kill

Gabriel Meadow

Those fucking idiots. I see nobody has considered that even *if* (and I laugh at that) they succeeded in killing Weaver, that all her allies - plenty of which are in the Sol system, or you know, the Primarchs and all their Space Marine gene-lines, will destroy them all. Or just... Emps will send the Custodes out to do a whole new Beheading. The fact that they brought in Cypher and Bile (or considered the flags raised by their covers) is just the terrible icing on the cake).

Remi Minjoulat

it's not good to tease us about the STC we don't want to wait 2 months to find out what it is

Megaman Beastout

So did I miss when Primarch Guilliman "offer something really good as recommended by the Howling Griffins? (that wasn't space marines?)" or did he not offer it yet? Do the deals count?

Megaman Beastout

Hmm that was far fewer new members for the the Dawn Breaker Guard. 8 + 3+ 15 = 26 new members. I suppose more sons of the Khan (there aren't only 9 chapters of his bloodline right?) and Corax (9 more?) will join when they find a worthy champion in this decade. Slightly disappointing that only 15 of Guilliman joined instead of 150 (are there even more chapters of his blood?), but if they did they would outnumber the blood angels by so much lmao and the guard would reach 238 space marines instead of only 103. Antony would you mind giving us more detailed info on the distribution of the chapters to their bloodlines. Given that some Primarchs only have chapters numbering in the 2 digits range, I don't see how there can be 1000 chapters in M35 unless the son of Guilliman are actually like 500+ chapters.

Stormstar1995

Hmm an interesting end to the chapter, I would say that there seems to be a bit of information missing from Guilliman’s explanation about the origin of the Primaris. If I remembered correctly one of the reasons Cawl was given this Project was to deal with the diminishing returns problem with the geneseed, i.e. without new sources of Geneseed each generation of Marines would be slightly weaker and slower than the last. Given the Lost of Sanguinius and Ferrus this would have been doubly important for those legion line at that point. I don’t know if you can added that to the explanation given you released to the Betas or if would break the flow of dialogue but I do think that needs to be discussed at some point later down the line as it is a well known problem that by M41 the Traitor legion Marines were much stronger and faster than their loyalist cousins from later foundings.

Megaman Beastout

Hmm, what counts as psykers when using bacta. Corax's sons seem to all have an affinity with shadows. But assuming that most of them/non-Librarian can use bacta otherwise they wouldn't really need 10% of the bacta disregarding the location.

Megaman Beastout

You know I'm surprised the High Lords managed to delay the Triumph for 4 decades. I wonder if it is the same for others who have achieved one even considering the life extending tech the Imperium has for the upper class, 4 decades can easily be the difference between life and death for mortals.

Forgottenone

Look at the 6th most wanted bounty...burned alive, and a tenth-generation death sentence on the gene line for anyone who makes a deal with the clonelord... Looks into the room with two High Lords making a deal with the madman. Oh wow, that's one good excuse to clean the house. That said is Big E letting this happen to glean info from the clonelord or does Big E simply think he cannot get the clonelords soul before it goes to the next clone? I guess the present to Weaver and Big E going to be evidence that he made deals with this group of traitors.

Megaman Beastout

You know I can't believe that that Fabius Bile and Cypher were so on the nose with their "cover identities." As Magnus said it best, "The stupidity of these Imperial Nobles is truly something astounding." I wonder how these heretics are going to protect themselves from esp the Emperor's precog let alone the inevitable leakage of their plan and send Custodes/Space Marines to end their ambitions. Trying to fight Weaver militarily is one of the most stupid plans that they could used to face her, better to use less direct and political obstruction than risking being branded as heretics and slaughtered in battle.

s22132

...Well, it looks like another group of idiots want to f*ck around and find out. The fact that they have Ormuz and Xerxes Vandire on their side makes me immediately discount their chances for even small successes in their plot.

Thiemo Guenther

So, things are tidied up a bit to set the stage for... the next stage! Well, if the deceiver is going to be manipulating things, that will unfortunately make up for probable reduced Chaos activity due to losses at Tyrant's Star, and as Aethergold, Umbralshoud, are deployed in increasing amounts. Especially in critical areas.

Thiemo Guenther

Operation Sea Wolf? Not Sea Lion? 😜 I would think the latter would be appropriate for a military operation that would seem doomed for inevitable failure! 😉 Though Sea Lion never even got started... Barbarossa, maybe? One must assume that there will, in fact be a great deal of battle and other violence... will the Eversor Clade be extirpated for their treachery, in the end, I wonder? Cypher and Fabius Bile, Oh My...

Thiemo Guenther

The conspirators have apparently COMPLETELY ignored the fact, that the act of being complicit in the creation of "Space Marines" outside of the auspices of the formal Foundings frameworks, and oversight of the Mechanicus and Space Marines are a serious breach of NUMEROUS written and unwritten rules and laws governing the structure, stability, and functions of the Imperium... Before addressing that Fabius Bile is involved...

Endymion2314

Oh this is lovely, I'm going to guess Fabius picked the Dark Angel gene line to blame it all on Cypher, where as Cypher already anticipated this and is going to hijack the entire chapter for his own use leaving the conspiracy with no Space Marines.

Nicholas

Thanks for the chapter! I have two comments to add to the discussion of the plot. 1) They are delusional if they think they can attack Weaver and then back out and survive. It seems incredibly unlikely they will be able to set this up without her allies among the High Lords finding out. Starting the attack, backing off and keeping it a secret is completely impossible. No one would let that stand and if they could win the war they would carry through the attack. 2) I find the involvement of House Ferraci very surprising. They are the navigator house irrevocably tied to the Space Wolves. Do they really think Russ is going to be OK with this or that the Space Wolves guarding their principle palace on terra are?

Thiemo Guenther

I think it likely that Elena Kerrigan and/or the Ravens will end up being among the first to discover the Conspiracy

Megaman Beastout

So what exactly are the different conspirators trying to do attacking Weaver militarily? I'm assuming they are trying to kill her but if they somehow succeed (like sacrificing entire sectors to summon legions of daemons + many exalted ones with extreme support from the chaos gods lol). What are they going to do when the Primarchs, entire legions of space marines >100,000, all the fleets of mars, and the entire swarm go to take revenge and go and burn down their sectors to their foundations? And their afterlife would likely be filled with torture either way.

Hunter

Interesting the C’Tan wants to “end the war in heaven” wonder what that will imply.