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HOLY GOONER BAIT. YEESH

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Asy

YOWWW

Bogram

if you don't like this we tossin rocks at you lil bro

J

Saturday morning cartoons?!?! Thank you vertical takeoff

Bat Man

damn ts kinda ass

Dn_God2

Vert Ive been waiting all day how dare you, you better enjoy this and know the deeper meaning in this show And if you enjoy the dub keep watching it like that the dweebs are insufferable W anime

k43t

W goon sess berti

uhhhhgetmoney

Dawg alr complaining about breathing in dub 💀u can’t make ts up💀💀

Mikeyy

Lmao

jayrockgotit

look dawg, for chainsaw man you gotta lock tf in. there is alot of shit going on UNDER the surface

Bat Man

yo vert if you don’t like the anime it’s fine we won’t care if you drop it, it’ll make room for more vinland saga eps atleast

k43t

btw Vinland saga - was animated by WIT ss1, MAPPA ss2 WIT Stuido also animated AOT first 3 ss

Dn_God2

Bros a D1 chainsaw man hater😭 2 comments in the first 16 mins

devy

i warned him 😭✌️

devy

its not that good mate

Bogram

To your dismay it is

Bat Man

😂😂

devy

like what? the psi of denjis squeeze?

J

The reason you recognize the voice is because every dub va makes their voice sound like a edgy 17 yr old 💀

Al_ Lazar

Where is Harry Potter? I need it bad.

devy

cs its not worth the hype

Andrew

it gets better but its def an odd show. The movie was spectacular fr

KevUrb

The sub VAs are too good to not watch it in sub… Also Im pretty confident you are absolutely going to love the movie. Animation is top tier and the high school horniness of Denji is toned down a lot. I can say it’s probably one of the best Anime movies out there and there’s a reason it’s rated so highly.

Koxxel Uzi

In my top 10 anime. Please keep watching because it gets.. hectic

alex

there's also one anime that was animated by mappa... Banana Fish.

Sabau Luigi

day 1 of asking for Arcane

Elle

hell no

devy

mappa carrying chainsaw man tbh, story lwk ass

Dn_God2

Well there’s not as much meaning in the first season of csm and a little in season 2 but there’s a bunch later on in the manga

wildfi

you've lost it

Gyro

It's peak bro, especially the movie

J

This goofy commented twice, just skip the reactions bro we don’t care to hear all that negative shit

Austin

Hey Verti, watch in whatever language you enjoy most. Also, if you don't enjoy it, just drop it. If you do, keep watching. CSM personally wasn't my cup of tea, but it has a big following. I'm excited to watch you continue your anime journey :) Personally I think this anime is a little too anime for this point in your experience, despite it having some good story beats.

Sara Sengezer

Verti when the shit he jokes about actually happen:

David Debow

Bro pulled up a fake pic of Hajime Isayama holding the Chainsaw Man manga and called him horny 😂😭😂

dee

LMAAOO dw verti the boobs thing def tones down a bit after these few episodes. i also personally really didnt like that abt this story but trust u just gotta get through it. it makes more sense to his character as the story progresses

Andrew

You def made sense at the end. I do think you'll enjoy the second half more but i get it. First time i watched it i dropped it at about this point. I found it worth it just for the movie but the end of this season is straight gas.

Sean Carroll

Nah man he skipped Harry Potter for this trash….. bruh

J

Dont worry vert they tone down the gonner stuff but i cant wait till you get to the reze arc genuinely beautiful movie

J

Okay Sean you made it to your 40s and still hating like a toddler if its not for you then its not for you simple as that

_.jjaded

bro rly commented twice just to double the hate 😭😭 you funny asf bro

dee

OH MY GOD ive been thinkign about this as well. im am so sure verti would love banana fish 🥹🥹 once the anime hits netflix we gotta flood the comments so he can add it to the polls. and hopefully itll gain more popularity with the dub

Jupiter

So glad you’re going to continue, it gets better as it goes, especially the movie 🙏

dee

lmao he made a post about why he skipped hp today

Maki

As someone who has read the whole manga, the story is great. You should at least watch Season 1 so that you can watch the Reze movie. It’s like a 3 week casual commitment and the movie is genuinely beautiful. After that you can drop it if you don’t like it (although I think you’ll ”get” the show more after the movie). The next season isn’t out yet anyway.

Lotus Hotel (US, EST)

This show is very gooned out. If you turn off your critical thinking and just root for Denji in his primal pursuits, it can be fun. Totally understand why it can kinda ruin otherwise impactful moments tho. It does get more interesting and develops more as it goes, plus the movie after season 1 is phenomenal. Hope you continue, but i knew that would throw you off lol

Scavenger

This show is FIREEE. especially the movie.

Morgie 🐸

just fyi denji is 15-16 and makima is over 20

Deepraj

Tbh, after finishing AOT it feels that way. There are very few shows which takes it very seriously. One such show I watched recently is Orb: On the movements of the Earth

Michael Christopher

I don't get it when it is top 10 anime, no hate, I like the manga, but season 1 and movie haven't reach that level of greatness imo 🙏🏻

nemxo

yes pleaase

wildfi

the way denji acts and thinks can be pretty off putting but once you understand the characters more and once you watch the movie it becomes alot better of a story

sonic3fartmachine

just keep watching it bro trust it'll pick up the pace later on and get more serious 🙏but if you can't then that's fine as well all love bro 🥹 love the reactions keep em going can't wait for more ✌️🥹

Rish

Yo Bat Man if you don't like chainsaw man it's cool bro, you don't have to comment

Rish

@devy Imagine being a human and not understanding sexual urges, you must have never met a teenage boy in your life, you need to get out more kid.

Koxxel Uzi

Everyone has personal preferences. I’m not saying it’s up there with Aot or code geass, but it’s got emotion, good animation, and it’s fun af. Its replay ability is higher than most shows.

Rish

It's cause it's trying to be realistic as denji is a 16 year old boy, if you say teenage boys aren't horny you are living in denial or just ignorant. I'm not saying you but just people in general. I probably only knew 1 kid in my whole year who wasn't a horny kid and ngl im very very sure he probably was behind closed doors. Also the Mangaka is a huuuuuuuge simp xD He was that 1 weird kid who was never horny except behind closed doors.

Rish

Can people please saying maybe just drop it stop xD its literally only 12 episodes and a movie it'll be done in a few weeks damn

wildfi

btw the reason csm seems similar to jjk is because bothe authors worked on csm authors last manga and right after made these seperate manga series, most likely inspired by each other

Nina Chan

Vinland saga also has a really good dub.

Austin

I never told him to drop it.

TyKo

You gotta go find something else to do man holy shit lol

Rish

I mean after season 1 it was in my top 10, you can tell from the first season how the managaka is writing the story and building the world, an anime doesn't need to be finished to be in your top 10, you can see potential at the start, and I see as much potential in Season 1 Chainsaw man as much as I saw in Dorohedero, dorohedero season 1 i knew we were in for a goddamn ride and the same with this anime. Plus production all around and pacing in first season is done soooo damn well and the japananese voice acting of everyone, stark contrast to demon slayers voice acting where this feels more real closer to jjk vibe. The movie confirmed that this series is going to be a master piece.

Ravenfire

This man wanted to see the squeezes 🤦🏽‍♂️

Rish

Best anime movie for an anime series hand down, blows away demonslayer movies. Demon slayer movie just felt like watching a bunch of episodes back to back, this felt like a goddamn experience filmed and directed exactly like a classic movie.

Rish

tell me you're a low iq kid without telling me

Jam

I can't believe I'm saying this, but him being a horny teenager is incredibly plot relevant lmao

Jam

I think someone else mentioned it but if you want a 'thought provoking' show in line with kinda what aot was, then please watch arcane bro its such a good show.

Didee

NO VERT THE SHOW GETS SO PEAK🔥 Denjis shown as driven by sexual desire cuz he has no clue what affection is actually like. Hes just a sad teenage boy finish this TRUST

Antares Bruno Montanari

WOULD VERTI NOT LOVE Kaguya Sama Love is war? It's about damn time he watched a good anime comedy/romance and this is the best of the best. Verti if you're seeing this please consider it for the future.

im__JAM

I cringe crazyy on this show with the same stuff as u, but trust the process. Denjis a horny teen, but the show evolves from it (not that its completely gone after, but its a lot less worst than eps 3-4 ngl)

Cornelius Arthur

I agree I also hate the horniness but they tone it down. It’s very heavy handed in these 4 eps. But there is a purpose to his horniness.

whatever

Get the fuck out dookie

whatever

Trust me this Is gonna be really good,plus It makes sense hes 16 sexual urges are very High for someone on that age

whatever

Plus trus me the film Is really One of the best anime movies your gonna see

whatever

Sub Is really much Better trust me

dvir1212

yeah im sure verti will enjoy watching 2 men kiss each other

David Debow

To be honest, i didn’t even remember that much horniness but i was really waiting for his reaction cus i knew it would throw him off at first 😂😂😂

Catmanmanson

As if thats the only thing in Banana Fish lmfaoooo and I know my king verti isnt homophobic he wouldnt do me like that

Zee_muji

Bro that’s not rlly the point, nobody cares bout what 16 yr olds do and don’t do pretty sure everyone here has been 16. The point is some of us don’t enjoy fan service, which is what this is, you can call it bein realistic all you want but it’s fan service.

Catmanmanson

Orb AOTY 2025 not even joking

Jae Hoang

I often get jjk and chainsawman story mixed up in my memory when i was watching both 😅

Deepraj

Sad that it didn't even got nominated for that

Zee_muji

I remember when csm first came out the animations looked lit so I was hyped but I dropped it around this point in the show simply cuz it wasn’t hitting for me. Everyone has their preferences tho but I gotta say I was surprised when I found out this shi hit 2nd place on the poll

Lucki

Denji being super horny is meant to make him come off as immature to constantly remind you he’s a 16 year old with not even basic positive life experiences. Love chainsawman but definitely a freaky ass show 😭

K1N0SUKE

For the whole titty thing, u rlly have to just think abt that as a random quirk denji's got in his lil fked up brain

Jhanine Wright

This guy is 16. That's never interacted with a woman in his life and eating bread with jam on it is considered luxury to him. Think about how you acted when you were 16 and add in all the human social interactions he's been denied his entire life. He's behaving like any normal teenager would. He's actually pretty calm if you ask me.

D

Just drop it for more jjk weekly, love chainsaws manga , but jjk better

Orenji

The main point of cms is that Denji is just an uneducated horny teenager with a good heart. He barely gets "love" from his surroundings ever since he was born and he craves it, the only thing he know in a form of love is as someone who lives in the dumpster for years is sex. When you continue watching this you will be able to see how that comes to be the plot.

Jhanine Wright

I think Vert thinks Denji is a 19-21 yro guy. I don't think he knows Denji is still a teenager. So he thinks boobs shouldn't be a focus for an older guy

Lelou

Lmao bro who voted for this "I'm tired vrrrrrr"

Lucas Schekin

Drop it if u want, but this anime can cook if you trust in the process. I dropped the show after a couple episodes when it was coming out, but came back to it and rly enjoyed it.

MadeByMali

Denji is excessively horny. But it is important to remember, he’s just a teenager

GVEM

You need to watch jojos bro

Deji Jan

tbh the intro arc (so basically these first 4 eps) were never my fav. it picks up afterwards, but also the movie is just so good, i liked it even more than i liked this first season. & waiting for s2 trying to avoid spoilers also keep the jap audio, i feel like it has a bit more energy than the eng dub

Stiven Bermeo

I have just experienced the “watching anime with your parents” meme. This anime is best experienced as “horny hehe”, get off your high horse and have fun. On the other hand, it’s extremely sad knowing Denji’s upbringing being full of deprivation, both physically and emotionally. Which on a young weak-minded person it makes itself evident on his sexual desire.

Stiven Bermeo

He did sound like one of those fantasy world isekai MCs lol

Stiven Bermeo

It’s so funny to me that Vinland Saga feels like a dick(high horse/stoic) measuring anime, and the fans are all so annoying about it, as if they didn’t learn anything from it but like to boast about liking a more grounded and “mature” story

oii

So I’m going to be honest, I’m a fucking anime connoisseur ,I’ve watch the most anime “anime” out there and I at first couldn’t put my finger down on why I wasn’t enjoying csm at first, yes to a normal eye, plot is simple, not fun and pointless, BUT this is a unique story that only a few can understand, denji being the way he is,is the reason for the plot unfolding this way, it’s his story, he’s confused about life, himself, as we’re confused about the plot etc etc, it’s a little deep just bare with us ! The end and movie are worth it, it’s a strange journey but it will unfold

whatever

Just put in your mind that hes 16 verti,hes not a grown man

Rish

If you want real fan-service go watch my hero academia, in this it gets toned down a lot with how it's done as we see Denji mature and learn about the world and people. Not all scenes are made to be enjoyed but to convey a meaning, it's cringe af to watch but the way it's used here is more to just cement Denji's early character, like Verti already knows what truly motivates the MC for now. Even Demon slayer has more fan-service than this.

Nina Chan

I read the manga idk it's just fine i dont feel the burning passion most of the csm fandom does.

CtrlAltDelicious

kinda weird that everyone is defending the horny shit in this show to a grown ass man by telling him that denji is 16, like shouldn't that give him less reason to watch him grabbing tits? fair enough that's how a lot of teenagers are but i'm not really trying to watch that as an adult. people always say the story gets a lot better so i'll push through if verti keeps watching, i dropped it here last time because it was way too juvenile but i'm happy to be proven wrong. so far having this win over hxh, steins;gate, monster, even demon slayer is kinda crazy to me but i can't hate until i've seen it through

Furious6040

One little thing, when you want to know how much yen is in usd, always include the year. Japans economy has stagnated since the 90s so the yen has been consistently going down. For chainsaw man just google/siri yen in late 90s to usd.

MadeByMali

You’re my guy Vert but sometimes nuance just flies right past you. Denji’s motivations are juvenile and superficial. That’s kinda the point. We’re so used to protagonists who want to be the greatest whatever in the world, or avenge their lost loved ones, or find a mystical powerful object. But in REAL life, how many boys/young men do you know who just wanna make money and get women? Who just wanna live comfortably? Denji doesn’t have some made up fake goal. He’s a teenage boy. He wants toast with butter, a bed to sleep in, comfort, and women. That’s it. It’s intentionally superficial and this is why he talks about it so much. Imagine if all you wanted was toast, a bed, and a girl and yet people keep trying to kill you. He wants the most basic shit and the world won’t even give it to him. He’s lived his entire life in poverty and being treated like less than human and he only asks for the simplest things yet he’s not allowed to have those things. It’s not the writer trying to be funny or make gooner bait. It’s kinda tragic tbh

Niko Robin

yessss finally we get Peaksaw Man!!

Hugh Jellybeans

It's a anime about depravity and devils. Hard to watch for me as well in some parts. I think its a vastly overrated series for me, but I understand why people can like it as much as they do.

Sam M

This show actually does have a lot of depth and maturity it doesn't hold your hand or spoon feed it to you. The "jokes" and stuff are for a good reason

TheGoobay

Totally reasonable view on the show. It's not super deep, like you said it's a face value fun watch with good animation and music. Thankfully, after the first few episodes, the writer's horniness tones down a bit lol. I mainly just enjoy the action/animation/comedy but there are for sure some cringy parts

Jae Hoang

extremely valid opinion. I voted csm bc of the stuff i recently seen, forgetting how goon bait it starts out.

Andrei

Without spoilers, horniness will stay in the show as a main trait and motivation of protagonist. However the plot itself and other characters are not driven by sexual things at all. I wouldn't agree with others about deeper meaning or philosophy later in the show - there's none - but there are twists, drama, concealed motives, it's dynamic, well paced, animation/music are incredible - the movie alone worth it. Unless juvenile for you is only about oversexualizing - I wouldn't call it too juvenile. In CSM there's no flat characters, screaming/yelling, overreacting and fan service - the most annoying things in anime for me

Lucas Schekin

TRUST the show gets a lot more nuanced and interesting. The author is kind of a weirdo in the sense that he likes making really dumb and outlandish plots and then using that to make some kind of interesting commentary (eventually). Season 1 gets better in the second half, and the movie is absolute peak.

Toby

The juvenile elements are for sure tuned to the max these first episodes, it mellows out quickly and takes a different or at least heavily toned down approach to this theme of the show. Shonen are, as you read, marketed at a younger male audience and sexuality is a less open subject in Japan, which makes animes and manga one of the mediums they can express themselves in regards to sexuality. It's totally fine to be off-put somewhat by it, I think most people are who haven't watched much anime. Many of the larger and more popular animes that feature these kinda degen approaches usually only focuses heavily on them at the initial phase of the series until the central themes are dwelved into later. Don't be afraid to voice when things like these are strange to you, part of the appeal of your channel besides your personality is the fact that you are new to anime - that's what we watch you for. Many of the people who are more seasoned within anime were also lifting their eyebrows to stuff like this. Maybe you should watch one episode of an ultra degen anime like Chainsmoker Cat just to see how bad it can get in animes that actually feature this stuff as regular themes lol.

kairoswrn

Thank you for at least giving us 2 episodes, I just know the subbers are fuming right now lmao

R3K2 Mutter

Yeah i agree, the dub is so much funnier, the voice actor for denji specifically really really shines in dub

R3K2 Mutter

But in dub we get YEEHAWW MOTHERFUCKERS, that alone makes dub better

Damien

I tried really hard to watch CSM and finish the first season but it's so corny with the gooner bait I legit couldn't bring myself to keep watching. It had a few good scenes but other than that I was struggling to stay off my phone while watching. I wish you luck bro. Ep 1 was freaking amazing and Ep2 was pretty good too and then it went downhill from there. That's just my opinion. Also a little edit here, I think the Sub is better if you want to take it more seriously. The English dub is really goofy and some of the VAs just aren't good. Even some of the AOT dub is pretty good. But the CSM dub is only good for comedic effect. Everything else sucks and it takes away from the legitimately serious scenes.

Sanzee

I think the next 4 will have you locked in

Async

You'll understand at the beginning of the next episode Verti. You're not far off with the fondling stuff but it starts to settle in. Remember this is a kid who never had any real experiences. He doesn't even know what he's asking for. Just trust it, but also keep in mind it's basically teen movie level.

R3K2 Mutter

I dont get the hate for denji being horny, bro lived his whole life without physical intimacy atall, irl that sorta enviroment turns people into sociopaths and serial killers and such, denji being an idiot whos horny is kinda a miracle

zrdax

Yeah the whole boobs thingy tones down But man you gotta understand where denji is coming from,i mean all he did as a kid was kill devils and eat shit foods he's never had any freinds or social life let alone any interactions with any girls,so no shit he's gonna be horny as hell as a teenager,psychologically speaking denji would think that the more material things he gets to experience the more fulfilled he'd be,you can kind of get this narrative when denji himself says that he gets to eat delicious foods and sleep comfortably but still feels like something is missing,it's part of his character that he thinks that whatever is missing gotta be something physical (like touching boobs) which makes sense since he's been deprived of all those physical things all his life

Shxll

+1

Donovan

Dude hell yeah perfect timing for sub. I don’t mind the dub but episode 5 has my favorite sub performances for sure.

TyKo

this fucking kid is barking for noodles? wtf am I watching

IndiCaliKaze

I don't know. I think simps are cringe so chainsaw man was a hard pass. Like damn can I get a male character who isn't some chicks dog on leash. Like have some self respect ya know. Either way I don't hate on people for liking it. You shouldn't hate on people for disliking it. I mean verti's watching it regardless.

Donovan

I think the gooner bait is supposed to be corny. Like it reminds me of being a teenager and the dumbest bullshit in the worlds gave me energy. However you look at it the show is definitely trying to make a commentary on motivation, and what exactly makes some dreams worth pursuing and others not. Pochita gave Denji his heart just so he could eat toast with jam.

Dakota Hogge

Just let the story allow for character development. Vegeta was a genocidal brat of a prince who became a hero good father and genuinely upstanding husband. Genji's behavior is repugnant. But hes never been to school and was held hostage his whole childhood by the mafia. The world and story is bigger than the immature and tragic MC

Dakota Hogge

The giant thing is a devil not the mob boss.. the zombie devil didnt enslave denji

Z

This will be like day 4 for me 🙏🙏

𝖒𝖔𝖈𝖍𝖎⟢— ᢉ𐭩

im telling you, ts is peak, don't sleep on it. Reze Movie was the highest earning anime movie of 2025 for a reason. surpassed demon slayer's showing for a reason! the gooner shxt def dials down A LOT.

Eren’s Left Nut

For everyone defending how Denji's horniness as a 16 year old boy is supposed to be relatable and understandable given his background, I can think of a dozen other shounen MC's that also grew up bullied and ostracized whose life goal isn't to touch breasts. A little bit of thirst would be understandable but this is so extreme that it's off-putting. I've tried watching/reading CSM a few times but can never get past a few episodes/chapters because of this. Thankfully watching with Verti makes it slightly more bearable but I really don't see how y'all can't admit that it's outright cringy.

Bebop717

"Is this show about hunting devils or hunting pussy" "Yes"

Hugo Jonasson

Imo, the boobs thing is not there to be comedic. I feel like it’s lowkey resonable for a Guy like him who haven’t had anything to want that after he got a better life. I think it makes More sense than him wanting to save the world out of nowhere.

Nathon

I mean, they’re literally voice acting edgy 17 year olds.

Nathon

Spoiling DB before he even gets to it 🥀

dylan

damn so u didnt make it to the movie

whatever

But what you said Is literally not true lol

whatever

Never ate anything btw other than simple bread,Watch the fucking anime lol

Liam Mceleavey

Can you blame this mf for being so horny though realistically he’s a old teenager and this is the first interaction with women 🤣 But loving rewatching this it’s been so long I’ve forgotten everything it’s like watching it the first time again 🔥

TyKo

Freaky ass mf I turned it off when he started barking

mazzyjay

Yeah I felt the same way about the show very good just a bit gooner. But they do kinda tone it down and then after the season watch the movie the reze arc cause that movie is kinda peak yo

Damien

I've seen some of the movie. It's more of the same stuff. I think people over glaze tf out of that movie tbh

Bebop717

Of course its juvenile, the kids 16. And its funny. He's the complete inversion of a normal shonen hero. He doesnt care about saving "some dude". He just wants to cop a feel. The bat devil, dumbfounded and dropping the guy after Denji reveals thats all hes here for, or Power's reaction to his sudden change of heart - its comedic gold Also like everyone else is saying, it really isnt a major throughline in the story. Its mostly a comedic element early on, also highlighting Denjis false understanding of pursuing his dream for Pochita

matthew perry

This isn't gooner bait, denji is a 16 year old virgin with no friends, of course he's gonna be really horny. As the story progresses and he develops it tones down a little bit, like it did for almost every guy once they got through their teens and experienced romantic connections. The story isn't about him trying to get laid even though that's his motivations right now, it's about a vulnerable person trying to navigate a society that's trying to exploit and use him. Real gooner bait would be something like Highschool DxD, which I would not recommend lmao.

matthew perry

the story isn't about him being a simp, it's about how the society is exploiting his vulnerable state as a 16 year old virgin, and how it does that to everyone in it. He's also a virgin, a lot of virgins are simps initially until they get some life experience.

Tristan Lamothe Goda

Drop it for now and finish vinland saga. Return to chainsaw when the good stuff run out

Alex

we cant even explain the gooner activity without spoiling honestly

Tristan Lamothe Goda

I dont mean chainsaw mean is bad btw I j mean its not yet finished and there are better more completed series

Miguel

@devy its pretty obvious that denji never had a loving family (specially if u read the manga) nor did he have a childhood. so he dosnt understand what a normal relationship is like. all he knows is the things he has seen in magazines and the normal urges of a teenage boy. the story goes out of its way various times to show that his relationship with love is twisted and how a lot of ppl take advantage of that. i dont know if u realised but denji never gets to enjoy any of the preverted things he does. all of his experiences end up terrible. also vert dont worry the tits thing will go away fast just keep watching.

Aurea

1:50 u were originally right Mappa is just the studio they don't write the story 20:10 It's the devil saying that not the old man he worked for.

El Rojo

Sub is better in this case, its not an abnormal thing to say or weeb thing to think, there are some dubs that are better and that's that. It's subjective. Now with that being said, something I haven't really seen people comment about is that the intro is actually an amalgamation of the multiple scenes from the writer's favorite movies. And yes the show does get even better.

matthew perry

Also the intro is full of american movie references like pulp fiction and the big lebowski and the ring.

Safaricat

you gotta think in Denji's perspective. a 16 year old kid who's only worry was ever debt, food, and his dog. now doesn't have a dog anymore, his debt is gone, he could die anytime, he wants to make sure he experiences life the best way a 16 year old boy knows how...... the ladies. he's a simple boy, food and ladies. a teen with no school, a good paying job, a place to live what else could he ask for. poor thing really has no other idea of life and no family or friends so he's gotta start small with the dreams. i will say not every teenager is going to be as introspective as Eren he had the influence of adult him telling him what he should focus on and do. he had a bigger calling than just being a regular teen boy, you can see the difference in him and like Reiner or Jean. Sure Reiner had big responsibilities but he also still had time to pine after Historia. Denji was in full on survival mode until the end of the first episode now he's trying to do 16 years worth of maturing in the few days we've known him.

Nicholas Wild

Low key want to write a whole-ass essay in the comments about why Denji's "juvenile" demeanor sets up the story for genuine meaningful lessons about intimacy and desire but I'm gonna wait a bit for that to not spoil anything 👀

Hohenheim

I say just drop the show now and pick it up later if youre not interested,

Dylan

Please continue watching it vertigoat i need it in my guts

VeggyZ

I always considered Chainsaw man one of those things to watch if I was bored and didn't have anything else to do. It's alright but it isn't really anything special and not really got the same level of drama and intensity that I like personally, I guess. I was never "excited" to see what happened next.

VeggyZ

haha, I know plenty of people who didn't get any in school and they didn't go off the deep end like that. Hell, some went way longer than that, and weren't near that desperate, even the ones who were openly frustrated by it.

VeggyZ

We don't get mad about it, it's just hard to not notice some of that acting, because so many of them go out of their way to sound goofy or silly - not that this isn't, but I've tried to enjoy them on all sorts of different anime and I still get the exact same vibe. I guess it just wasn't made for me.

Uuuuuughhh

Can you keep it dub please don’t listen to the webs there’s literally no point to watch it in jap might as well watch it in Spanish

Shahab Qalans

verti when u finish chainsaw man s1 and the movie please watch a video on the author he's actually such a tweaker

rainy :p

For clarification on mappa, they are just the ones in charge of animation. Pretty much all animes are adapted from the manga as source for the whole plot and art style, of course it's not gonna be an exact replica of the manga but mappa does do a great job of adapting different manga artstyles and staying true to the original source

dildoswaggins.7

ImDontai is doing a Game of Thrones reaction and a good channel that did an AOT reaction is studio gek, theres like 5 of them who watched it

JustJamel

I’m ngl dub lowkey comp hol on now was I sleepin

rainy :p

A lot of people hating but please verti give it a chance so you can see the movie, people will write this is off as gooerbait but that would mean there's no reasoning behind why he acts this way when that's simply not true, based on what you've already seen denji had no real idea of what love and connection is since he lost his mother and father in his developmental years, leading him to have a twisted idea of connection and relationships. im not saying to look past it but there is justification for it unlike majority of other animes with fan service.. it definitely gets expanded on more and I hope you'll give this anime a chance 🥲

BiLiLo

The reason is that dub is shit

R3K2 Mutter

Going to school and socialising is a huge part of what makes people people, denji didnt have anything like that, bro was left orphaned and living in a shed

sabrina

BROO IM TELLIN YOU THIS SUB X DUB DEBATE IS SOMETHING THAT ONLY OCCURS IN THE USA MAN I KNOW MY WHOLE LIFE THAT SUB IS 𝑩𝑨𝑺𝑰𝑪𝑨𝑳𝑳𝒀 𝑨𝑳𝑾𝑨𝒀𝑺 𝑩𝑬𝑻𝑻𝑬𝑹. ITS THE WAY THE DIRECTOR INTENDEDDD. IN ANY MEDIA POSSIBLE . PERIOOODDDDD. ((Unless youre a kid and are experiencing things for the first time so you dont know how to read captions, BUT THATS NOT THE CASE .

sabrina

YES. THERE IT IS. ITS THE PROOF. EVERY SINGLE DUBBED ANIME THESE DAYS, ARE LIKE THE SAME VOICES . THERES NO CREATIVTY ANYMORE HE THOUGHT THAT OLD MAN WAS WATARI TOO, LIKE. ?

Thulyn

Sorry mr Gigachad, but if it offends you so hard to see a simp in fiction, the problem might be within you. Isnt it just enough to not be a simp yourself?

sabrina

The dub on the first episode was okay, but at the second... oh my god

Marcin Rubach

This anime is so overrated, please skip and go watch Stains gate or smth that is not so mid xD

sabrina

i see denji more like a caricature, a pastiche of a protagonist . which is referencing the reader themselves (a weird ass virgin otaku ) as well as anime protagonists in general.!! we're so used to animes that is wayy oversexualized regarding women, cause unfortunately this is much more normalized in Japan than in the US, for example... so IN MY VIEW, its a reflect of the average anime audience. designed—on top of everything you mentioned—to make them feel how stupid they really are ......Besides,,,its also an interesting subversion of the concept!!!

sabrina

NOOO EVEN YOU BATMAN !!! NOO.!!! NOT YOU MANNN!!!! YOU GOTTA CONTINUE WATCHING IT PAYS OFF SO FUCKING WELL BRO TRUSTTTT

Bat Man

ok i’ll trust you

Bat Man

😭😭

Bat Man

bro i’m trolling ive never watched the show before 😭😂

sabrina

im a girll and when i started this show i instantly got why he is so stupid and horny,,, hes a frustrated little teenager who've never touched a woman, only on PORN MAGAZINES and DREAMS. SO?? hes a fucking animal!!!!!!!! he just needs to see how the world really is.. and THERES SO MUCH GUYS LIKE HIM You wont believe .! Thats what porn and negligence turns people into . fuuuckinggg animals. but i like him anyway... he's not evil he's just dumb

Dee

I screamed when I seen this

Dylan

aint no way you said steins gate lmao

Myra

Day 1 of asking for Mob Psycho 100. You will absolutely love it, its so insanely peak. All the animes you watch now are pretty dark so I think Mob Psycho will be a good change of pace for you. Its also not MAPPA so you get to see what some other studios are up to, like Bones in this case :) (And no gooner bait lol)

Jama

if you think its cringe you just think the show is cringe or the English language is cringe because there's honestly no difference

Momo Lilya

Denji never get to grow up, so what he perceive as his goals being juvenile is very on brand. I didn't vote for Chainsaw Man, but this is a very story. Although only one season and a movie had aired so far.

Scavenger

"How can you be this horny" Because the plot wants him to be, these are the aspirations & goals of a kid who has never gotten to experience a normal life, most dudes have had those experiences before being 16, Its a way for the show to develop his character growth, if he's willing to fight this hard over silly wishes imagine how capable he could be with a real reason to fight.

Jib

How did this mid show end up here

Jib

Deadass wtf 🤣

Jib

It's Better than csm 😭

ambraser

This guy hasn't watched NEARLY enough shōnen to appreciate Chainsaw Man. The whole point is that it subverts the genre's conventions, which only works if you've already seen the standard setup a few times. So Denji just wanting a normal life and to cop a feel won't read as subversion, but just as weird. He should just drop it for the moment.

Big Dan

First time watching this show. From these first 4 episodes, what everyone is saying in these comments sounds like cope. Denji being a 16 year old boy is not justification at all to make the entire show's one punchline be about squeezing boobs lol.

Big Dan

He literally said he prefers it in sub?

Cristian Bengasi

Reducing Denji to a "gooner" or a "simp" just for the sake of cringe comedy completely misses the entire point of his character. His obsession with superficial things isn't standard anime horniness; it’s literal trauma:He has never been free: He went straight from Yakuza slavery to Public Safety control. He never had the luxury to develop grand motives, like wanting revenge. His entire life has just been raw survival. No baseline for attachment: He grew up in extreme isolation and starvation. Because he never experienced genuine emotional bonds, he doesn't know how to look for them. Maximizing the bare minimum: He hyper-focuses on basic physical desires (touching boobs, kissing) because those are the only tangible, immediate rewards his brain can comprehend after a lifetime of deprivation. Make an example, if you never had and could never dream to have a good food, wouldn't be obsessed with that when the dream seems close? I agree that i don't like simps without a reason just for comedy but his character makes sense with his life, he has no shame, you saw the sigarettes he put in his mouth for 10 yen for example, he would do anything to have better food, better tits and so on

Guino7 Robet

its a great watch, the "gooner" scenes are definetely meant to be taken as comedy as it kina breaks the usual main character tropes of revenge, getting stronger, etc... BTW next 4 episodes have a lot of the "gooner" scenes but id say after that there isnt anything crazy

Guino7 Robet

Also I dont think anyone (well nearly) watches this show and finds the "gooner bait" scenes attractive and I doubt the writer did it because he was horny as well, its just meant to be funny but yeah some of them make you quite uncomfortable.

RVA

LMAO bro that's a picture of isayama not the csm author

camii

literally said he wouldn’t like it too 😭😭 hxh would’ve been better

Sam M

Finally someone gets it. Well said. None of it is just for jokes or goonbait, or even just because he's young. It may look absurd or silly on a superficial glance but it's all necessary for his character.

Cristian Bengasi

yeah but i get if someone doesn't like the story and the excessive lewd thinking because is their subjective preference, but i would like for people to distinguish the excellence writing from personal preference in stories. A lot of people judge shows on how cool and badass is the main character rather than how well written he is, not a jab at Solo Leveling (yes it was).

Max

I agree generally with finding the Denji’s fixation juvenile, but there’s a layer below that which elevates the writing. The show is very self aware and knows what it’s doing. Let it cook a bit imo

Jarell Johnson

Simps are pretty cringe but this story runs deeper than that, you’d understand better if you read the manga.

Wanderer

Yea Vinland way better than ts😂

Momo Lilya

Denji’s goal isn’t really meant to be a punch line.

Cooljo

This would be so peak

dvir1212

If helps u just know that his goal isnt just to be goofy and funny its actually a important part of his character

Brian Tran

Demon Slayer has more fan service than this? sorry to say bro but you mentioning chainsaw man trying to be realistic about a 16 year old boy who is horny, but nobody wants to hear the MC talk about tits all the time. Is it natural for teens to be horny? Absolutely. But this excessively, you notice it every single time and it just throws you off. Like instead of some cool line after doing some cool shit, its for titties. What the fuck kind of plot is that. lol. who cares if it gets better down the line. If you can't like the MC from the start, or if you can't have somebody hooked from beginning to end who would want to continue watching?

Cooljo

Ragebait

dvir1212

He is meant to be a realistic mc that stripes down from the normal shonen "save the world" trope

dvir1212

Sub vs dub debate doesnt exist outside of the US its obvious sub is better in every way

dvir1212

If anything telling him to watch dub is like telling him to watch in spanish, the sub actually works with the production studio and its literally made in japanese

Peepee Poopoo

MadebyMali's comment summed it up pretty nicely. jus wanna add that we gotta remember that Denji didn't grow up like a normal person so his ethics and morals can be warped, and his goals can be pretty primal and instinctive. The gooner dreams he keeps talking about constantly are not supposed to be a punchline or sarcasm. The story is trying to tell you that these are his ACTUAL dreams. ofc the gooner shit tones down as you progress through the series. Absurd? yes. Has zero meaning? not true. at the end of the day, to each their own, just wanted to make a couple of points clear regarding the intention behind some scenes + you'll get it more as the story goes on verti gang

Sam M

I do think he'll come around but yeah I can't wait for HxH some day

hange

lets be real, majority of anime is gooner bait and its crazy to say that the longer you’ve been into anime, the more “immune” you become to the goonery/fanservice (unfortunately) BUT i always found chainsaw man especially denji a hard watch 😭 i get that hes a teenage boy and theyre trying to show realism by making him extremely horny but its just hard to watch 😭 not to say nobody should ever watch chainsaw man bc the good parts ARE good but its not something i would recommend to someone who hasn’t even watched 5 animes especially when their introduction to anime is Attack on Titan and Death Note like i would fr trade chainsaw man for a cartoon like atla or sum shit no offence 😭

Sam M

The only other show that has ever hit as hard as AOT for me is LOST. I know it's a bit of a long shot but I can't recommend it highly enough. I've been waiting 2,000 years for a reactor I watch to check out Lost (if you haven't already)

Joe food stamp

Oh so age appropriate voice acting? Ironic cuz sub just sounds like a edgy 35 yr old 💀

Joe food stamp

No thanks he only needs to see the first season of vinland anyway before it falls off

J

Theirs no personality. I could close my eyes and only listen to sub VAs and know exactly who the character is. Do that with dub and its ggs. outside of deathnote/naruto/dbz im cooked bc most of them do that cringy generic anime voice

Wagwan

Dawg watch Alchemist Brotherhood its in your lane. Amazing story.

duc

sometimes im scared about vertis plot takes,, i could swear ya saw the series before😭😭

duc

not all but just the right amount to actually be on track

Big Dan

Looooooool

devy

gooner

dee

@dvir212 that only happened in one episode lmao?? and it wasnt even a serious romantic kiss which u would know if u watched it. banana fish has a much deeper story to tell than just “2 men kissing each other” which i know for sure that verti would really appreciate

AstraT1ger

6 in total, lets get the likes guys.

Dee

I love this show, Denji is a victim and I hope the author does him justice

Zaki Alkabli

I LOVE CHAINSAWMAN SO SO GOOD

Antwan Person

I don’t like chainsaw man too much myself but the movie is a masterpiece

Yuya

you shouldn’t hate on people for disliking it is such a dumb thing to say someone can’t defend smt they like?? or even further with that same point, you should hate on smt because i like it, do you hear how stupid that sounds?? also acting like every mc is like that? denji had NOTHING he wants whats bare minimum, a woman and a meal. light had a great household and he wanted to become god yuji had a regular upbringing and wants to help people, denji is the way he is because of how he was brought up its extremely realistic considering his situation and i dont even like chainsaw man all that much but if you cant understand how having nothing your entire life makes you crave the bare minimum and thus makes you EXTREMELY easy manipulate and considering [CHAINSAW MAN SPOILER UP COMING] makima is the control devil no shit hed be so easy controlled you have no media literacy omds

anagh

media illiterate child

MrMorales

The guy that makes sex jokes in every reaction calling this juvenile is funny.

Zaki Alkabli

Youre not meant to find it funny that Denji just wants tits He has issues because of the way he’s lived thus far, the anime takes itself seriously and how such a mindset affects young men/boys.

Zaki Alkabli

Agreed, realized it’s kind of hard to understand the show when you haven’t seen a lot of anime

VertisBabyDaddy

@devy your just dumb bro. it’s obvious you haven’t watched it and you genuinely riding huge dick

Rish

You realise he's not a normal teenage boy right? I think you literally missed the whole point, the kid has been deprived of social interaction and doesn't know or understand emotion much. And as people have literally said it cuts down loads, it's used to paint a picture of him at the start then gets toned down. We get you're no fun at parties dude it's cool. 90% of the people who watched this are hooked by the MC hence the 8.4 rating on MAL. Also that is the point, you're expecting a cool line and the Mangaka fucks with you by doing this shit. If you know anything about the Mangaka he messes with his community constantly, he's not a people pleaser he's a troll.

Omnipotent

i agree its juvenile to just want boobs but think about it from denjis perspective he now is feeling as close to free in his life as he ever has before he had to spend every waking moment thinking about how hes gonna pay his dead dads debt he cant afford to sit around day dreaming he needs to pay the debt or they will sell him for spare parts right so now that he has some room to breathe he found what he wants its juvenile no doubt very trivial as far as a life goal is but its a starting life goal he hasnt experienced a real life until he was free from the mafia or yakuza or whatever they were supposed to be

Irridani

Hey big dog, I caught Chainsawman on the week the manga release and I read every chapter of it weekly from December 2018 to March 2026 when it was running. Chainsawman as a story is deeply philosophical and uniquely disturbing. I'm glad you're giving it a chance. Something to bare in mind is that Denji is not only 16 years old in the height of puberty, but he's also an uneducated orphan. Stunted both mentally and emotionally the kid is practically feral. The negative feelings you have towards him and his motivations are valid but they're also intended. While the fanservice is off-putting and overly obnoxious at the start of the story it calms down a lot as the plot continues. I'm excited to see how you feel after the next four-five episodes.

JT

Hating on someone for not liking a show you like and defending the show isn’t the same thing you fucking donkey, defending a show you like doesn’t require you personally attacking the one criticising the show, there is no reason to get personal, if you genuinely think so, get a grip.

Antares Bruno Montanari

Seeing Chainsaw Man especially the first season as a “gooner” anime is a common but understandable misunderstanding. I just wish the people who do use that criticism gave the show more of a chance because it genuinely is not meant to be fan service and you do notice that if you aren’t going into it with the preconception of it being immature and over sexualised.

DeathByZombie

You gotta check out Solo Leveling one of these days that'd be fire

Toni岡田

I wanna start recommending Avatar: The last air bender for the future maybe.

Tyson

I even struggled a little bit with the weirdness of it because I was new to anime when I first watched it but I tell you the chainsaw man movie Reze arc is one of my favourite movies it’s genuinely so fkn good

XeoX

The dub is trash in this show. The only anime i personally watched in sub. And its not a gooner anime just because the mc behaves like a touch starved teenager.

XeoX

Its not fan service

XeoX

Denji isnt even a true simp

Sugon

as others have said already it does get better. I was equally cringing while watching it, but after finishing the first season I binged the manga right after. trust in the process

I am HR

Man I had forgotten how ass this show is😂 but seeing verty trip over the corny horny dialogue is low-key funny

Chippastro

Not gonna lie i think you'll love the Movie, that shit's CINEMA

DaBoomba

"yeah I can't, sorry" immediately LMAOOOO I also hate the gooner shit, though as others have said I do think it dies down fortunately

London Puller

aight bro thats kinda something you realise yourself later in the show.

MizukageSama

the vibe is so different in dub it's tripping me out lol

Gonzka

God the dub is horrendous. They straight up change the dialogues.

Gonzka

They change the dialogues in english a lot and it literally changed the whole vibe of the show. Sub is superior in every way

Gonzka

The dub totally changes the vibe of the show to worse. Makes it much more goofy and lighthearted. They also change the dialogues to sound more gen alpha for some reason

Rugo

the voices are fine but why does denji sound like that 😭 why he speaking shyly like deku, he sounds nothing like that in sub, like the 'dude, that's me' is cringe either way, but it was actually funny and more mellow in sub

Akon

one of the best mangas in the last years btw

Sikei Butler

I mean he's had like no human connection and he's going through puberty I'd say it's a pretty realistic goal irl especially for men in a society where you have no worth unless you make money or get women

CruzFFA Gaming

Bro SUB is so much better for chainsaw

Flo 265

its more about the fact that he had literally NEVER interacted with a girl before this moment idk why people dont understand that is a huge reason why hes like that. he cant act normal socially because he literally has never interacted with anyone besides the yakuza

Rishabh Jain

The horny stuff is bordering on fan service on the surface, however if you take a closer look you realise that the anime is not commenting on the morality of the 'relationship' denji has with women around him. You could very well (and I think you should) interpret it as Denji being an emotionally mature 16yo, who is being groomed my Makima who is obviously manipulating him by using his sexual libido to get her way. This is an obvious canonical interpretation of Makima (and other women wayy older than him) being sleaxy with him, just think about how horrible it is for 20+ yo people being with people below 18.

Rishabh Jain

This problematic dynamic is not apparent because most anime watchers are sex deprived misogynist gooners who idealise and sexualise Makima, and even encourage the relationship between Denji and Makima instead of viewing it as the horrible thing it is, which is essential for Denji's character and the story.

bodyodor

Denji lowkey fights like Lebi with all the spinning