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Overcast or Day/Night Cycle - ETS2/ATS

  • Overcast Only 92
  • Day/Night Cycle 458
  • 2024-12-18
  • 550 votes
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I'm currently working on weather system for new PBR lighting and I'm focusing on realism + performance. I have an idea but some people might not like it.

If you saw any video about "realistic graphics in games" on youtube, probably it had overcast weather with maybe rain. Why? Because sunlight is expensive to calculate with bounce calculations, even you let it use a lot of resource its never going to look good compared to overcast weather. Because games lack of very small details compared to real world and sunlight is shaper than overcast lighting.

I'm playing ETS2/ATS2 to drive and relax, probably most of players are playing ETS2/ATS for same reason. Thats why I don't like sunlight even if it was looking good, because its sharp and bright, adds a lot of contrast to scene which makes it less relaxing.

I want to make the weather always overcast with a lot of different types of skies and clouds so it would feel different most of time even its only overcast weather. Also I want to disable night because you can't see anything and lights are expensive to render.

PBR lighting already improves realism a lot but I will also try to make a better rain system and reflections to add more realism.

And lets not forget, no sunlight = no shadows = better performance. Even you have good gpu, you can't have all the shadows for the scene which makes the experience less realistic.

Even with default foliage it makes huge difference in terms of realism:

Pros of overcast only weather:

  • Better realism

  • Higher FPS/performance

  • Different types of overcast weather with small details

  • More relaxing experience with softer lighting

  • Probably better rain system and reflections

Cons:

  • No night experience

  • No sunlight to feel high contrast lighting and time of day

Comments

Snowy Moon

How did you even read in a minute and vote

Romero Ocaranza

PBR Project looks very promising. I think you should continue it as normal and have this secondary idea as an option.

russiaisaterroriststate

Honestly, I'm totally on board with removing the sunny weather and chose "Overcast Only" out of the two, but I also enjoy driving at night and, most importantly, I like the feeling of driving in the morning or evening. So, a perfect option for me would've been keeping it overcast only with day/night cycle still present, basically just limiting the weather variety. Maybe that's why the Day/Night option is winning atm?

Mak

I don't care about performance as long as I can reach 60fps so just go for the normal Day/night cycle as only overcast would be too depressing over time. lol

Alan

I agree, no enthusiasm at all for permanent overcast days.

Dixiit

As always, if you can manage it, best to offer different options for everyone's taste

russiaisaterroriststate

Also, wow do those example screenshots look great! I'm playing in VR and would love to have that experience, especially if that doesn't come with any major performance hit, surprised to see little to no support on this opinion

Snowy Moon

I think this is a case people needs to see it first instead of thinking about it. I think this a perfect way to get most realistic looking game. And I want to focus on it because there are lot of ways to make overcast weather look different and interesting. I just added screenshots a few minutes ago so probably most people didn't see it :/

Snowy Moon

Sure but I think when I make both options most people are going to use overcast option even they don't think they are going to now because realism difference is going to be huge. I think I can release overcast version first and add day/night cycle later.

Igor Rocha

Honestly, I hope this weather, grass, etc mod, be in the same quality to taa plugin, because you're amazing man and keep doing a great work

Romero Ocaranza

It looks fantastic Snowy. My concern is, with such limitations you will lose potential guests/customers. For example, If I were new to ATS and I saw PNG, JBX and Kass' weather mod as options and saw yours. I would have to go with one of the other 3 because they offer the full variety of day/night and weather. It would be a shame because unlike the others you offer unique mechanics with your plug-ins like advanced AA, lighting and trees. Would be a waste of assets imo.

russiaisaterroriststate

I still think it's worth keeping the day/night cycle, especially to have mornings/evenings and keep the long rides feeling long, but I wholeheartedly support the removal of the sun and keeping the weather to overcast only! Hopefully that could be a good alternative to leaving sunny weather in if people don't come around after checking out the screenshots

Tim Paginton

personally i prefer driving overcast just feels more realistic never liked ats sun lighting it just doesnt look realistic and makes roads go whitish in colour ...btw great work snowy and loving the new ovecast pics keep up the amazing work youve brought ats and ets to a new level cant thank you enough

Snowy Moon

I'm probably going to make overcast first and probably add day/night cycle later if there are enough requests. Because I feel like people doesn't understand the difference its going to make in terms of realism :/

Grikuz

Looks great

Vuzz Voom

I hope it will be a separate thing from the TAA that I use because personally I am very satisfied with the game as it is, losing the sun with all its atmospheres and night driving is not at all my cup of tea, so if it is attached to the TAA without the possibility of deactivating, you will lose my support for sure.

Mateo Vinagre Cárdenas

Can you make overcast weather but with night-day cycle? that would be my ideal vote, just day is not very realistic and even boring...

luciann iann

wow! the cloudy weather images look very realistic!!! I love them! but I wouldn't like to miss the sunny days! I hate that in the original version of the game when it rains there is sun, and that there are no cloudy days without rain, does this happen to me?

dan bocan

i have to incline for day/cycle, the game is so beautiful when you drive on those towns during night time, especially on DLC GREECE or BALCANS, the did an amazing job on GREECE villages.

Rafael Ezequiel

As imagens mostram resultados incriveis.. Pelo menos na imagem parada é bonito! Parabéns!!

Giang Luu

I'm sorry but no sunlight is so silly. I love sunny days and the vanilla graphics are really good on sunny days!

Oliver Ip

hi, i really appreciate your taa mod but its crashing my ets2 on startup. this started happening after volvo fh6 series release update

Faouzi Achraf

Man you crazy i love what are you doing make things in your way so you give us the best

Zach Attack94

dude that looks crazy realistic, do you use rehade?

100Gramowich

Я очень сильно жду это ПБР освещение, шышка дымиться

Allen Genephat

Kind of looks like a google map street view on ATS

cn zf

hope my 3060m won't collapse.

El Kamynante

I'm in for Overcast Only! My eyes say, THANK YOU SNOWY MOON! :-)))))

Suppi

Why not make it configurable?

Flick

When it will release?