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CRTJ

here we go…

CRTJ

this dog… ok get your gig girl

fe~

rumor has it that yichen was actually helping the chinese trainees from other teams to communicate with the korean by being a translator (and mnet is the one that ‘asked’ him)

CRTJ

yichen has diarrhea ghorl!🤣🤣🤣

CRTJ

sho for the show 🤣😭 he is the sho… or the show

wen 🦭

sun heng yu my shining star...

Secretninja312 (Tina)

I'm honestly convinced Yichen either was leaving because producers called him to help translate like people are saying or he did have explosive diarrhea for like 2 days and ran for the toilets. Because the thing is, they never explained where he went all those times and we know there are cameras everywhere so if he was up to no good, sleeping somewhere, fooling around with another team, kissing guys under the stairs, or punching out a staff member, they would've shown it. So I don't think it was being lazy or intentionally dismissive of his team.

CRTJ

why are these trainees always ask… are they singing live?…. ghorl you are supposed to sing live! WDYM!!🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

Precious4U

Lee Jeong is not the most experienced leader. If things don't go according to his plan, he doesn't have a contingency plan.

McKala Hanes

I feel like mnet is just shoving the whiplash team 1 members down our throats as the ones who MUST debut. Ofc the producers have their favorites like last season Hanbin and Hao were ofc their darlings. But I was excited about Hao and Hanbin. I like An Xin just fine but I can’t bring myself to really care or he excited about him when there’s so many other C trainees that do excite me, but An Xin seems to be being edited at the only C trainee Mnet will allow to debut. It’s exhausting 😒 It just feels like the debut group is decided already and there’s no room for someone to have a Taerae man in love come out of nowhere moment

Precious4U

The only problem might be if he didn't tell the other members but that is not that big of a deal.

yawnie

Sangwon has this amazing star quality and the training to back it up! So his unrivaled popularity (look at his Whiplash fancam) right now is both understandable and well-deserved. Also, I know that MNet is pushing the Wonxin (Sangwon-Anxin) agenda, but I am all for it as they are so cute and would definitely be amazing friends when they debut together! I was waiting for your reaction to this, so thank you!!!

Nathan

Ugh this blood boiling yichen edit. I can't believe they have that whole building on surveillance and they couldn't show WHERE he went? Not once? He's diligent, i refuse to believethis edit that he has a bad work ethic. I can't believe this is happening to him again

CRTJ

I swear it is a rising sun and high school musical get your head in the game arabic remix 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Haneuli

Choonbae got the ipad story hago from season one “I was there all along” 😭

CRTJ

now… yusen we love you gurl… but masters… be freaking for real right now! that last note is nowhere near being good… are we hearing the same thing?

nehushta

rising sun the first ever “mixx pop” song in kpop lol

CRTJ

andrew our r&b king

stephanie44

i feel a little bit bad for the sexy guy. i feel like he cant do anything right on the show. i dont think its that dramatic, how he is acting. but the show makes such a big deal out of everything. i like him,he gives a extra vibe and his voice is unique. they kinda give the vibe, like they cant stand him a little bit, but still everything on youtube from his team, just has him on the thumbnail. they love using him for the previews, even tho some things werent even said to him. (i even heard some translations are off, but idk about that) so i dont think he will go next round. i dont think he will make it to the group or to the finale, but he will make next round. he looks kinda done with the show/mnet and people obv dont like mnet, so they stan him, and are annyoed about the editing from him. (tho ofc some people dont like) but he gains popularity. also that one scene with him and sho dancing looks so funny/wrong cause of the high difference.

wen 🦭

same reaction to the heart killers mention... one of them has to be a beret

stephanie44

i geniusly dont get how the whiplash teams had such similar points. its not just cause they are more popular, but the avengers team was so much better. (almost everyone of them, so idk how people like junseon lost) i even saw some side to side comparison on youtube and the difference is insane (tho the other team also did well) at least they got the mc performane. i liked both rising sune performances, but red was a little better. tho some main vocal notes were off, with both teams. kill the romeo was so good. i really hope people like the boystory guys or suren, harry make it....also i think the all star tws performance was a little better, the only win i would have changed

rzeka

I'm right there with you, can't believe the Jiang Fan disrespect 😭How do people not notice him??

Kassie Delong

I’m trying to watch this at work and I was trying to pay attention and I threw away my scissors 😂😂

Secretninja312 (Tina)

I think its just their way of saying "OMG you singing is so good it doesn't sound real"

CRTJ

sorry adam I think andrew devoured… 🤣🤣🤣

Pond’sPhuphu

Sounds like Andrew is bout to mianhae mianhae hajima

CRTJ

watching this episode is making me miss lim jack more🥹 where is she when we need her😭

CRTJ

kany was like…are they fighting right now?… give me my popcorn🤣

CRTJ

someone get chrisen yang out of this misery… girl just want to survive that’s all

CRTJ

sorry sexy guy looks like he’s about to breastfeed sho 🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭

CRTJ

“it’s not a tragedy”…. gurl it is a tragedy!!!!

CRTJ

I don’t even know how to describe the 1st kill the romeo performance… we got a rose thrown anywhere, the height difference, sho rapping, a voice crack, a sister doing masc drag, lipstick was supposed to imitate slicing of a neck, abs reveal, a random flip, another voice crack… WHAT IS GOING ON?!🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭

yeotee

Genuinely the highlight of my week has been seeing people recreate the kill the romeo breastfeeding (theres no better way to call it kdjfkf) scene its so fucking funnyyy, bringing back OG yaoi proportions flashbacks instantly. ++++ The rising sun winning team was the best performance for me, I can’t stop rewatching it. Its so damn good I dont care about the vocal mistake (this song is comically more difficult than any other in this mission tho like wtf??) this is the kpop i fell in love with !!! Dramatic and over the top with raw talent to back it up, Its my shit!!!

Haneuli

Reeon during KTR performance was giving baby Choi Minho?! Child of shinee fr

Ms. T

Haha. Was waiting for you to see Choon Bae make another appearance. But seriously… Choon Bae getting more overall screen time than some of the trainees is crazy.

Lazycloud

Chuei Liyu is growing on me. If he continues to improve, I won't be mad when he's in the lineup because he's going to be haha. Chung Sang Hyeon is the one that upsets me just because, there are so, so much more better rappers than him on the show. But I guess we want a visual idol rapper with no bars. We're gonna need a Park Gun Wook on the team to carry the rap so hopefully Nian Bo Heng, He Xin Long, Park Dong Gyu, Kim Si Wan, or Yeom Ye Chan gets on the team. I really hope Jiang Fan survives, but I don't expect him too. We can't have nice things haha. Idk where Oh Jun Ho came from but that dude can sing.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

Literally Mr Sexy has me so torn. On one hand I'm like, you're here to be part of a group, you gotta learn to talk to them and work with them, you can't get by just practicing alone. And unfortunately, there will be times where you will need to give up personal ideas and sacrifice for the greater good of the group. BUT on the other hand, I find it hilarious that he's so unapologetically himself, refuses to be put in an ideal mold, and speaks his mind. Also fun to see the mentors and staff have to deal with someone like him because he seems so done with their mind games and isn't 100% obedient and folding to their words. The thing is, there's nothing contractually holding him on the show, he can leave if he wants to. But for some reason, he hasn't. So I'm guessing he ultimately does want to stay and perform. I do hope he learns to work with others better and I do hope he sticks around a bit longer because he keeps things interesting.

sharon

andrew ate that intro UP i hadn't even watched the episode and he was all over my tiktok, ig reels AND youtube shorts it's crazyyyyyyy his fancam is also so so good UGHHHHH i hate it i need him to make it to this group

sharon

their rising sun performance for sure had flaws but it was still so good I've watched the full performance like 5 times already it might be my favorite overall

Alex P

Debut Choon Bae!

Emma

Sangwon has the same energy as one of those neurotic little dogs that are about to keel over from anxiety and something about it is incredibly appealing.

Ms. T

Just do you with the recaps / staying off twitter and TikTok y’all. If there is anything you “need” to be filled in on … we got you.

yeotee

I agree that the editing sometimes is really comical because…well mnet we have ears and eyes and no amount of over editing and reactions is going to change that like jfnfnfnf idc what the masters says if its sound like a mess to me then it is!

mimi

i honestly feel so bad for our sexy guy...it really feels like everyone is against him and is being extra mean towards him or even going as far to make fun of him...

mimi

sangwon ate that performance upppp

mimi

all of them shitting on mr sexy yet he was the only one serving in that performance lmaooo

Zainah Alajmi

Sangwon killed it. His fancam reached 2mil in a week. I highly recommend watching it. It’s spicy

Kim Soobin

Sho getting breast fed by Zhong Xing was the funniest thing I have seen

fe~

here to share a little update on xinlong’s growing popularity in sk, there are 1 pick vote polls in several forums and sites in sk and almost all of them has sangwon as no.1 up until today suddenly there’s 1 pick vote poll where xinlong is 1st. i have literal chills

Ms. T

So. The thing about Jun il and why it’s maybe not acknowledged that he’s got Trainee A history is that he was one of the early potentials but was not a part of what would have been the final lineup. Yorch from POW was one of the potential final lineup though. Probably how Leo (and by extension Sangwon) ended up at GRID.

Phoenix Wright

Kind of hated the way that the whiplash choreo was more “masculine” like the choreo isn’t that feminine to begin with, let the boys serve cunt

Jasmin💙

Why ask Mr Sexy if he’s okay if you don’t want to hear an honest answer like😭😭the judges would have reacted bad no matter what he said because they want sound bites to add to the edit, that’s it! It’s so annoying when they ask such a leading question just to tear a specific trainee down. I agree that he doesn’t really help himself, but they so obviously single him out, making it just an all round hard watch. 100% agree that the chopped vocals in rising sun were not impressive, all I could think in both teams performances was, why are we not giving the guys lessons on safer singing techniques?? I know they’re leaving them to fail cos it’s tv but please😭😭

Emma

The difficulty level difference is indeed insane but they did so well! It’s also a great chance that you can rise to the challenge. I’m still sad that Sun hengyu had trouble with his voice because I know he could pull it off. Not tvxq level pull it off obviously but like way better than most people. I love tvxq so much and all the early sm experimental stuff. It’s just so good! I wish they had more older kpop songs in these shows instead of just one or two. I was so hyped for infinite last time (and this time two in the 2nd episode).

stephanie44

tbh, im kinda worried he is getting voted of next ep. he had like no screentime until this point

nadia

the dog thing is literally mnet going "we can't be evil - allllllll evidence of treating many contestants like dirt to the contrary - bc look, our mascot is a puppy!" please. also the sangwon and anxin agenda is too unsubtle (they literally put those chairs together in the middle of the floor and had them "casually" sit next to each other). i enjoy both of them a great deal, but it makes me sad that the editing is forcing it.

nadia

oh and junseo is SO HOT i cannot even

Leena Aamir

I’m soo happy for him!!!!, he is also my 1 pick, so I really hope he debuts.

Lucia1802

sangwon star quality is incredible, you can't stop looking at him, he's so captivating without being exaggerated, not only that but he has all the talent and training to shine even more, he really is the best. overall the editing on the whiplash allstars team was really weird, they showed practically nothing of the group just sangwon and a little bit of anxin, they could have shown more about leo, yumeki, chingyu etc (yumeki literally adopted chingyu!!), so that was a bit disappointing. they're trying to push the wonxin ship but it's not going to work because it's obvious their dynamic is like older and younger brother, their dynamic is also very sweet since sangwon is a cutie quiet introvert and anxin is a cute extrovert social butterfly who gets along with everyone, on top of all that they are 18 and 22 years old haha anxin gets a good amount of screen time but it's always the clip hangers that insinuate that he's going to make some mistake, he's one of my picks so I never feel safe lol I hope they show more of his personality because I feel like we never know what he really thinks or how he feels. almost all of my top 8 are C trainees, so I hope hengyu, jiahao and kaiwen can shine in the next mission and climb higher in the ranking plss

stephanie44

i dont think they are shoving them town our throats. they are with the most popular members and dont have that much more screentime then the others. so ofc they are gonna make a bigger deal out of them. the entire team (mostly leo and sangwon) carry the views of the show, and axin is the most popular c trainee. he was even before the show, they know people wanna see them and how likely it is for them to end up in the lineup. it also doesnt always have to do with the screentime. woojin has like no screentime and is place 12/13 something like that. but yeah, they should give others more screentime. i think taerae was even standing out before that performance, but idk maybe someone can also this season

Molly Yemi

I think Mr Sexy should leave the show for his own well being at this point because it seems like being in an idol group and being on the show just isn’t conducive to how he works. It does feel like he’s become the go-to for the “evil edit” this season, but he is also giving them a lot to work with I can’t lie. I don’t think he’s actually evil but at the end of the day being an idol a part of a group is a job, and I don’t think this job suits his working style. It’s all good and well to be rebellious when you feel wronged but you don’t have the job yet so I’m not shocked the mentors were over it cause all they will see is him being confident and “sexy” but then not show up prepared or looking like he doesn’t want to be there even if he has good reason to feel like that 😅

Pond’sPhuphu

I’m sorry but Yusen sounded absolutely awful 😭😭😭

Molly Yemi

I do agree that I wish someone pulled him to the side and was just like heyyyyy they will make you look crazy over here 😅😅

nadia

omg this

tori

I will just say this. anxin IS a friend of kany and also has a massive crush on... someone there👀🙂‍↕️

REN 🌈

It’s crazy to me that mnet isn’t pushing the mattbin route this season with Leo and Sangwon bc the material is right there… GOD they don’t understand yaoi and what made season 1 so organic and beautiful

marielle

the heart killers mentioned

Ms. T

Any chance y’all will be reacting to the Studio Choom version? The teaser was a gag and the performance itself was really good.

Ms. T

We’ll make do till they decide to do more with it. Given they’re so close, it’s bound to come up at some point. The crumbs are there though. My favourite part of the whole Sangwon-Anxin edit was Leo hovering.

Ms. T

The weirdest part of the Whiplash performance edit was that they were the only team that didn’t get cuts to the judges during the performance - like not one actual reaction. Why? So weird.

Ms. T

The TikTok edits are so funny too

Ms. T

Given that it’s got more screen time than the likes of Harry June, it would only be logical.

Ms. T

The annoying thing about it is that voting closed before most of the global viewers got to see the performances (if they couldn’t watch it live that is). His popularity hit an all time high right after votes closed. It makes me sad. Would be amazing if he makes it though … I really want to hear his vocals alongside Leo’s. But either way, after serving those vocals, this is for sure not the last time we’re seeing him.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

If Sangwon and Anxin are being pushed as HaoBin 2.0 then Leo is basically Matthew (English speaker who’s friend is now getting close with someone else). And at that point, we might as well bring Junseo in to this mix as the Jiwoong for Leo. Note: this is a joke and should not be taken seriously, but it is a good line up so far.

CRTJ

miss kany be like… yall are not disrespecting whiplash like that!!🤣🤣🤣

Ms. T

Oh gosh. I remember that.

aerifia

no but it truly does feel like this is the narrative they're pushing...

Ms. T

Gurllll. Joke or not, I’ll take it any day - think most people would. That’s a solid core to build around.

Ms. T

Oh my gooodddddd. If you haven’t already, you need to see Ryan’s debut song. I soooo want to spoil the lyrics of the song but will just leave the link here instead: https://youtu.be/K7PNSzdT2W4

Fayye

The way the judges and the producers ganged up on Zhongxing aka Mr Sexy just for him to be the best in his team is sooo lol, what an icon. You could see how the judges were stumped on how they would approach criticizing him so they choose his vocals but the funny thing is, HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE SINGING LINES!! All his lines are rap lines like talk about a REACH

Malika

I feel like the mentors are not helping as much this season. last season they were also pretty harsh, but you saw them actually teach the trainees better methods

CRTJ

yes… a haobin moment might not be happening… but miss anxin…. lets just say I can feel a different energy 👀

Temi

Sangwon's fancam shows everything, no other comment about him. I am a little bit sad for Ching Yu, I think he did so well but they didn't show him so much. Leo ate as no surprise. I wasn't sure for Anxin in terms of personality at the begining but after this episode I totally fell for him.

Temi

All the comments from the performance video are Leowon should debut together, so I am not worried that we will come to this point in the future. Or they will put them in different teams (center positions) to compete againts each other for the drama...

charliess

Anxin killed it I'm so proud of him!!🥹

aerifia

zhong xing is really giving jiyoon in iland 2 pt 1

gingerale

Yep I think he must have had a legitimate reason. If it was him slacking they would have shown it to push the narrative

Lucia1802

exactly, I assume it was to highlight the reactions to Whiplash's team 2, so the tie in votes didn't feel so out of place. reactions help create an image of how good the performance was to the audience, without them it's weird.

M

i'm already sooooo worried about my kingie Jiang Fan for the eliminations. hes sooooo talented but the girls aren't seeing him :(

Candice Blair

The fact that they brought up Zhongxing vocals told me everything I needed to know. You can't be serious. First, the preview of this episode with the arguing had mistranslations according to those who understand Chinese, and then, when it airs, the translations were completely different. He also gained more Korean fans. Go figure. lol

Brittany

He ate but it also killed me with how many times he would just walk to the back. That had to have been like half his choreo 😂

Lnqxie

Things that Mnet is pushing: Zhong Xing critics and WonXin moments. Mnet's editing is getting worse and worse. They're really pushing the HaoBin route. Don't get me wrong, Anxin & Sangwon are close friends as teammates but I feel an awkwardness on the screen. Especially when Sangwon is an extreme Introvert. (His speech is so cute btw, he talks a lot when nervous) Hsu Ching Yu also doesn't shine much in this performance. Yumeki only has adlibs as his lines, but he slayed his parts well. Also, besides the fact that they didn't show the numbers on the scores, mnet didn't show the judges' reactions when avengers team are performing. 👀 But they did when 1 stars are performing. They only showed the judges complimenting them after the performance and it was edited too. It's obvious Kanny's comment was cut in the middle like you've noticed.

Brittany

I'm so not ready to see my Jiang Fan get eliminated tomorrow, like I'm begging for a miracle 😭

Kara Marshall

I just know this next episode is going to upset me lol

M

a LOT of people are trying to get their haobin 2.0 which is weird because Sangwon is 22 while Anxin is 18. like lets think with our heads people. also don't hate but im not seeing the Anxin hype sorry like hes good but not n2 worthy IMO oop

aerifia

there's something very "depressed victorian woman" about sangwon

stephanie44

it kinda is feminin, but anyway the performance (mostly from the avengers team) kinda served cunt. i dont think more is gonna happen on a survival show

Fairy mermaid 🧚‍♀️

I agree with everything you said but I don't see Anxin and Sangwon's dynamic as older and younger brother, seems like they're co workers/friends that are getting to know each other. Anxin (younger) was the one helping cheer up Sangwon (older), so I don't see the younger older dynamic at all. I do think they're becoming friends and still getting to know each other, that's why a some people say there's an awkardness between them, because they're still figuring out their dynamic, but not to the level of saying they're brothers. Leo and sangwon have a sibling dynamic tho, that fits them more. but Anxin and Sangwon we don't know how their dynamic is going to be like, those videos were days after they met each other for the first time in the c and k group merge, so they were still getting to know each other back then, now they're probably friends

Lucia1802

mm that's true, I think I was projecting into the future how I see them lol

Jared

those missed high notes were painful

Neeko

LOL im sorry this made me cackle so bad. i completely see it.

Jay L

banana peel hair lol 😭

moon

ahhh i have so many Thoughts about this episode and these results. not really any of them good lol. i don't agree with 1-star plot twist winning, kill the romeo went about how i expected, and they spent so long building up to whiplash but even that felt anti-climatic?? don't even get me started on mnet awkwardly pushing wonxin.... rising sun though... whew. they really shouldn't have given this song to trainees to start with tbh, but man!! i don't even disagree with team 1 winning, but it's nuts to me how big the difference in the scores were? i can't believe dongyun is the ONLY person who won team 2's matchup?? and mnet tried to edit jiang fan badly in the team 2 package too... i really thought he'd be getting some better traction after his signal song test, but instead let's add it to the counter of "how many times jiang fan has gotten totally robbed by an audience vote." 😭 when will he get appreciated!! aoshi deserved better too imo (also sorry i just didn't think andrew's opening was very good especially compared to jiang fan... and andrew's favorite artist being chris brown put me off of him instantly after his pr videos anyway lmaoooo) idk i have a lot of Opinions about the rising sun performances (why did BOTH teams decide to give main vocal + killing part to the same person... i could go on forever) and how they shook out. hengyu looked gorgeous though and i hope he doesn't speak for the next two weeks to rest his voice :'(

Neeko

Miss Kany, if I was working at MNet, you would NEVER be out of a job. Get her on all the shows!

eden

idk i feel like a lot of star quality is lacking this season…

Clare

Studio Choon (Bae)

Maritza Islas

Here is my take, at the end of the day as much as you want to stand out and make sure you get the votes for yourself... this is also a competition that involves working together as a team.

fe~

sameee omg he deserves the world!!

cabbage

Rising sun team 1 was practicing shirtless because they weren't using the AC to protect sun hengyu's throat :(

unicoh7

How could Junseo's body rolls lose?

Crav

I can't say I like Zhongxing personally, given his interactions with his team, but I feel like they also kind of set him up in that exchange with Seokhoon. Keeping in mind Zhongxing doesn't speak any Korean, he's relying on what phrases he has picked up and the translator who I have to assume is in the room. So the master asks "Does anyone want a different part?" This is a straightforward question, so he raises his hand. And then Seokhoon looks at him and asks "Are you okay?" Again this is a QUESTION BEING ASKED TO HIM. I don't know if he knows the phrase by now or a translator tells him, but he again answers the question honestly. He isn't okay, he's tired, and since the master asked, that's what he'll say! Seokhoon then scoffs and completely dismisses the answer. I feel like, in Korean language and culture, that question was asked with the expectation that you will act like everything is fine. That's clearly what Seokhoon expected. But if a translator is giving him the literal translation, or he just knows generally what the phrase means, Zhongxing probably just took it at face value. Like he looked genuinely baffled by how the exchange went. Why would the master ask what was wrong if he clearly didn't want to hear any complaint?

Crav

I feel like the choice of Yusen as main vocal for his team was kind of doomed from the start. A lot of times on these survival shows, they'll pick a main vocal based entirely on their range. Yusen just....naturally has a high voice. But he really doesn't have any singing technique to speak of. He isn't resonant or supported, and his throat is tense. Hengyu DOES have technique, and it showed. Even though he was singing his last adlib in an unhealthy way to make it through the song, when you listen, he IS on the note. Even sick, he has the technique to get through it. Yusen wasn't sick, but he couldn't maintain through the entire song because he doesn't have any vocal stamina. That happens fairly often on survival shows, because I think a lot of these trainees don't know what technique actually sounds like.

i_nirvana

That's so great. Now I just need Zihao up there with him. His unbothered eating while people were arguing next to him was gold.

Lauren

Watching the groups take on TVXQ and even Zerobaseone songs makes me realise how hard they are to perform!

João (ffmnc17)

Now I'm definitely down for an eventual Road to Kingdom reaction, just so Adam and Rj can see what an actual Rising Sun cover is supposed to look like.

A Kim

The morntning conversation sent me HAHA

charliess

Why are people so seriously analysing peoples dynamics over like 5 minutes we see them on screen😭 Of course mnet will be pushing certain people it has always been like this, people need to chill a little bit it is not that serious🙄🤨

Greta🍊

Solid core to build around? This isn’t reality tv. It’s a survival show. we have to stop eating everything up Mnet tries to shove down our throats bc most of the time it’s fake. you know these are real people right? With real friendships. Not mnets storyline

masbond84

since u all keep asking about the sponsorship, south korea has very strict rules about showing logos even if u are a sponsor. you are only allowed to show it for a very short time. that's prob why they had to blur the northface logo. even on variety shows like with drinks, they only show them drinking a bit but the rest of the time is either blurred or they turn it around. also why very few ad breaks. cos most of the ads appear in a block after the show. that's why the start times of programmes are also very weird there.

Greta🍊

Sanghyeon at least has a position. He‘s not the best rapper but he is something. Liyu is giving Dozen (sorry not sorry). He doesn’t have a position or how my fave Park Nuri would say: his position is the visual. He can improve (obviously) but we need a debut ready team. Not people that still need to learn the basics.

Greta🍊

A bit off topic but you neeeed to watch Road to Kingdom. Dongheon is basically Park Hanbin when it comes to choreography

C

THIS

C

1:17:33 just saw someone said it’s not Kill the Romeo. It’s breastfeeding the Romeo 😭

Jared

yeah why aren't they showing the scores? shady af

Tina Oestreich

i've been watching since produce 101 and i swear this comes up every single season.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

It was to build anticipation so the viewers can't predict the winning team before they announce it. They do show it later on.

Secretninja312 (Tina)

Whoa calm down. The ship thing wasn't suppose to be serious. Yes they are real people, real people with solid skills who I do think would make a decent part of the line up regardless of who's good friends with who. Just to be clear, we should all be voting based on who we think is good skill wise and who skills/talents would balance out each others, NOT by who's best friends with who.

Shi Yau

I would like to put my 2 cents into the HZX situation. Specifically how he ultimately decided to focus on the "creative expression" for his performance. I have been consuming China's variety show performances since as early as 2018. It has now come to a point in China where singing and dancing is not entertaining enough anymore and nowadays they love to have a gimmick, to no end. I think HZX is just influenced by that performance rubric and unfortunately I think it's tacky in China and I think it's tacky here.

Shi Yau

If Raggedy Ann covered Kill the Romeo

Shi Yau

Also I want to traverse this existence with the confidence of Sho, I can sing and dance too, just like Sho

bee.beebee7

How has Hong Zih Hao (beyonce guy) not gotten ANY screentime at all since the first episode. The editing is really putting me off this show.

Pari

I hope sexy annoys the hell out of them 🔥 I love him he has that it factor for me

Secretninja312 (Tina)

It doesn't help that they're always in a rush when it comes to getting these performances together so there isn't enough time for them to properly learn how to sing properly. Yes there are vocal masters who know how to teach it but they're only there for a limited amount of time, and especially in the first performance round, there's 80 guys so they're not going to be able to do in depth teaching for every trainee. So then it just comes down to whatever techniques the trainees came in with or whoever happens to be on their team. I really think they should've saved Rising Sun for like a 2nd round performance and have it be a Vocal&Dance mission, then they'd probably get trainees who are actually strong vocals to take on the challenge and usually by this round, the vocal masters can focus more on refining techniques with the trainees. Also personally, I think Jiang Fan would've been a better choice for Main Vocal because that guy can SING despite being a main dancer, but he was still recovering from being sick and his voice wasn't in good condition.

Sinn

Ever since the PR vids Reeonn reminds me of Jack Gleeson and I can't unsee it

Pari

Subtile at the end said „primal instinct „ me immediately my primal instincts are awake won’t fade away 😂 love a good deer hunter lyric

iemiliah

i rly dont know why this editing seems so lacking or boring or empty, the inconsistency pisses me off, their added Win/Lose stickers nd not showing votes, the build up isnt a real build up this is all so🫩😭

iemiliah

and girls whats going on in the other monitor, what was on, been wanting to ask😗

Lin H

real. as if there could ever be a haobin 2.0.. what are the odds to have two trainees who happen to be gay, the most talented, each other's main rivals fall at first sight having immediately picked each other as the number one visual out of 97 men. that's a love story of the century because it's never going to happen in at least another century. all this show is making me realize is how good the og bp was in so many ways. and like the girlies can ship whomever but let's not act like there's no difference between the coughing baby and the hydrogen bomb (level chemistry)

Lin H

nah yaoi is exactly what they understand and want since it's fictional same-sex attraction/ fan service. the organic development of season one into a gay dating show got waaay too real and uncomfortable for them which is why they visibly butched up season 2 a lot.

Jaz

AGREED

Sinn

PLEASE 😭

Pond’sPhuphu

It’s so obvious how Mnet is trying to push Wonxin in our faces and trying to separate Leo and Sangwon 😭

DKB

omg, I thought I was the only one that was side-eyeing the 1 star plot twist winning over all star! I could not believe it, I was so surprised and I thought there was something wrong with me, cause I thought all star team was vastly superior to the other team here. Only thing I can say is maybe it played differently watching it in person, but I was shaking my head cause EVERYONE on all star plot twist nailed it!

DKB

Also totally agree with your rising sun analysis too - I thought there would be a tie in that competition.

SC

Jiang fan hive im scared

mistywolf multi

I watched the full ver. stage cams on yt before watching the episode and honestly I was really impressed with the one star whiplash team's performance, especially Daniel. I definitely think the all star team did better overall/was more cohesive but I understand why a lot of the one star team members won individually. I think they seemed more into the song and their expressions were on point

SUGAHO

my jiang fan 😩

SUGAHO

listen if all the berets pool our funds together we can debut jiang fan

tici :]

this season is so boring i miss lim jack

aerifia

it's like they're half-assing the show. it's missing all the magic from the first boys planet and it's not just bc of the trainees

i_nirvana

I feel a bit robbed of Lim Jack and Li Zihao interactions (the chaos would have been so fun), but he wasn't ready.

Sam

omg yes please

David v

Vocally Daniel was good but I feel like he’s stage presence and disco expression wasn’t that great compare to the all stars team

pnwh

I gagged and died at "Okay, consistent kinggg". I'm cryinggg lmaoo

iemiliah

id never blame the trainees, theyre just there to achieve their dreams🥺

mistywolf multi

Fair enough I personally thought his expressions were great. I'll be keeping an eye out for whatever he ends up doing in the future 😊

mistywolf multi

There's plenty of star quality I think Mnet is just choosing not to focus on it as much. Seems like they have a very strong idea of who they want in this group which isn't new but this season it feels even worse because they had to rush to eliminate so many people and we barely got to know anything about half of them

Aileen

whiplash all stars imo: chingyu, child (but did well). anxin, pretty boy in leather jacket. geonwoo, cool guy in leather jacket. yumeki, doing aepsa doing whiplash. junseo, doing it but could do more (face). leo, doing it AND doing stray/ateez. sangwon, doing IT. living a concept - boycrush is honestly a good way to describe it

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

“Rising Sun” Team Jiang Fan and Andrew both ate opening parts! Andrew gave a new yearning sound to this part, but Jiang Fan perfectly imitated the original! I just can’t choose between them 🙈 And honestly, I LOVE both “Rising Sun” performances and felt bad for the losing team, because the score gap was unfairly huge! But Sun Heng Yu is my №1 beloved boy! He’s an essential part of my final group. And his final high note at 56:15 was really good, so I didn’t agree with you on this one. Vocal damage didn’t ruin the moment. The mentors were right this time. Yes, he was sick, but he overcame it! That was the real spirit 🔥🔥🔥 At 58:20 — this is the first time I totally disagree with you, Adam 🙈 Sun Heng Yu was really impressive! All the members nailed the performance!

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

“Killing Romeo” teams I personally love Mr. Sexy! He’s real and charismatic — and that quality is really rare in the K-pop industry. For me, that’s an advantage! And when he threw the loser sticker I was like — yes, queen 👏👏👏! You have my vote! And his words about the creative idea — he’s got a point. He really shone thoughout the performance because of it! The rose and lipstick on the neck made a great impact in my opinion! About the second team - they really got all of us with Suren and Li Zi Hao, because I also thought he would be against the decision to change the leader. “You beat him in looks” at 1:27:54 was an adorable moment! I love Suren’s voice! It sounds unique when he sings. And he has that sassy aura during performances — I love it!
And their main vocal (unfortunately I don’t remember his name and notice him only now) was really solid!

❣️ Vladlena ❣️

«Whiplash» teams Yumeki’s team was top-notch, no doubt! Lee Sang Won was born to be the center of the group! 1:49:22 — “We all fall for a straight boy before” comment cracked me up 😂 Kim Jun Seo is truly eye candy (sexy version)! And Leo’s vocals are always on fire! He and Sang Won 100% will be in the final group — and that’s the only right decision! But I was really surprised at how well the second team performed! Danial made crazy progress and killed his role! The 2:09:07 moment was amazing! I also really love Bang Jun Hyuk — his deep voice and swag added flavor to their performance! And Rensho’s body at 2:10:05 — it’s TEA! I was gagged 🙈

eden

I don't feel like there are trainees that really hold and grab my attention. They are still talented but compared to pass seasons of survival shows since Produce 1, I can't really say someone will debut for their talent but rather for sheer popularity. Maybe as the next missions come I will feel different but tbh by this time last seasons we had our Somi, Kang Daniel, Wonyoung and Sung Hanbin.

eden

and the sentiment is the same until a trainee has their moment

Kara

I do love how they keep dropping in Seowon to give insight about the mechanics of the show like some insider

CRTJ

welp😭

Stefan

Honestly, I'm obsessed with Jiang Fan's intro since they released the individual fancams a week early. Originally I started watching Dongyun's fancam first but I heard that intro part and had to switch to Jiang Fan's fancam IMMEDIATLY. It was the PERFECT vocal for Rising Sun. I never heard anyone else do it better except for TVXQ themselves. If you watch the full cam you can actually hear gasps in the audience when Jiang Fan starts singing 😅 (Which, thinking about it, only adds to the frustration that he got so much less votes) My vote was with the blue team, I mean kudos to Heng Yu for even singing at all, but my ears would've thanked him if he didn't... (The Jiang Fan Rising Sun fancam had such a grasp on my life for the last two weeks, I don't even have an opinion on anything else happening in this episode)

fe~

that’s was so funnyyyyy😂🤣

Jueuho Nam

Wow ppl really pressed about anxin and sangwon friendship can’t two ppl become friends ofc there’s some awkwardness they just get to know eo at that time

mes

YUP

Kazuki NOW

Why is that ZhongXing/Sho part literally my profile picture

sun

tvxq was my ult as a teen and i don't know if beloved of the month includes 2nd gen but it would be amazing if you could do a retrospective on older groups. It's so interesting how the kpop genre has evolved to become more western sounding but the SMP genre has always been a staple of SM groups. also of course the trajectory of ot5 and how they split into jyh and homin is also really fascinating to dive into (even though back then it really broke the fandom)

Kaeldra3

Can someone explain to me what these win/lose stickers on them during practice are from

zhi

im late but aoshi really ate during his performance 😭 i didnt even know him before but he instantly caught my eye like i cant believe he was eliminated so quickly