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Cheesecake

Can confirm I am an imitation

MTV

PEAK!

Tearonex

Roshi, VERY GOOD guess about Iris! And can confirm to the anime onlys, that OP spoils literally everything!

DevilMayCarter

We here for the HEAT! I know the last cour was kinda up and down, but glad y'all closing this out. Yeah the Arthur and Tamkai clownery can be a bit much for folks...ready to see them both pop off though. Also Lupa, don't pass out around Roshi bro lol. Latom.

kidBuku

How are they gonna adapt all of this in 13 episodes

Michael_F-N-George

Was that the sadist fire captain that got murdered??

Tearonex

They're gonna cut a shit ton, I can already feel it

salad

surprisingly might not be too bad, from what ive heard from the people who saw the preview of episodes 1-2, ep 2 covers almost 9 chapters but cuts very little

Tearonex

Hope you're right, that chapter to episode count is very worrying at face value

Kaquindox

Roshi you cooked!

GormleyPeach

Glad he caught that, you could Roshi spotted that as soon as it happened! Lol

Greg Harrison

The lore for this show is so good. To back up roshi's theory - Shinra's doppler was a devil based on rumors. The sister is warm and welcoming which is what a lot of people think of amaterasu.

Devin B

Probably going to speed run some of the fights

Fuji

so 13 episodes and no movie or anything? oh boy...

Ginger Dwarf

Thank you for skipping the op. It is a banger but literal villain unmasking themselves mid op level of meme spoilers

Tbdovan

Need them to go ahead and wrap this up so we can hopefully get them to redo soul eater.

_monjiro

Just watched the OP and without any context for what I just saw, it seems fine to watch so long as yall dont look too deep into it. If yall really want to put it off to the end of the season thats fine, but I need to see yall watch the Captain and Hina dap each other before its over (you'll know what I mean). Not like y'all didnt watch "The Rumbling" back when AoT was still airing lol.

4timemally

“That’s a foot mark, he used the foot” 😂😂

Merfhew

There's no real harm in playing things safe (unless Roshi forgets to watch the opening later, cause this song is great), so I think skipping it was probably a good thing. However, if they'd chosen to watch the opening instead of skipping, I don't think it would have been a big issue. As an anime-only watcher, I feel like it's safe until near the end, which has 1 or 2 spoilers. Everything else feels like you need context to understand.

Delinda Arts

I’m surprised they didn’t say “who did I hit?” 😂

Merfhew

I'm curious. Have you read the manga? I'm an anime-only fan who watched the new OP, and the only 1 or 2 things I felt spoiled by were in the final seconds. No harm in Roshi playing it safe, but I hope he watches it later. Song is a banger.

Vergil

I just got chicfila,, what an amazing time :]

Merfhew

Wait, really? Interesting. The last few seconds kinda spoiled something, but I thought the OP was pretty tame otherwise. Maybe I'd feel differently if I had context for what I saw, or if I watched it multiple times.

Coatl45

No, I think it was Beni and Konro’s master. Which means that he’s probably a serious problem.

Michael_F-N-George

That could be possible too. I was thinking it was the hair color plus that captain had a mark from adolla, that’s why I thought it was him.

Ginger Dwarf

I'm anime only as well yeah. I felt really spoiled by Removal of Headwear is as vague as I can say it. There's a few other minor things but that's the main thing I feel spoiled by.

Brissy

I’m so thankful that y’all caught on that iris was Amateretsu doppelgänger

Coatl45

Now, here’s what I don’t get. If Iris is the doppelgänger of Amaterasu, then how is she not only a pyrotechnic, but also a pillar? Actually, how do the doppelgängers like Iris and Burns’s demon doppelgänger manifest outside of their bodies? Especially the ones who are pyrotechnics. Simply becoming a pyrotechnic means that the person dominated their doppelgänger when it tried to take over their body, right? That’s why I assume Adolla Shinra was able to take over for three months, because Shinra wasn’t in the body for that length of time. So there shouldn’t be a doppelgänger to bring into the material world… unless, this is the logic of Adolla being the Dream World, and that causes multiple doppelgängers of the same person to manifest. I’m just wanting to know if all of this is going to be explained. No need to go into details or confirm if it is.

Tearonex

With just a bit of context you can start to piece a lot of things together, and it becomes a domino effect, it's better for anime onlys to just not watch it imo

Merfhew

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Yes, I feel like that's something they should have included as a "v2" update later in the season. I'm bummed that I saw it, but until I know what it means, I have convinced myself that I wasn't spoiled *too* badly. That scene and the one we see at the very end feel like the only real spoilers or spoiler-adjacent scenes, though. At least in my opinion.

UV

There was various ways for doppelgängers to cross from Adolla to our worlds. One of them is Adolla links either through Adolla bursts or Bugs. Other is through Fissures created during previous cataclysm like the Lady from on other continent, the shape shifting dude and Eris

weird flex a

lol first half of this season was jokes get ready to get blown away

George

Roshi pretty much hit it on the head. That's why Shinra goes on to explain that everyone expects Amaterasu to be warm and loving (we have already seen that this is not the case in reality because she's insane). Since Doppelgangers are the version of you that others see, it follows that Iris is Amaterasu's doppelganger, everything people expect Amaterasu to be.

PhaedrusRumple

I feel like they haven’t been hiding it. Like, I thought they were making it pretty clear like a season or two ago. Or at least heavily hinting at it

CentipedeKid

So Iris got slapped for being a doppelganger?

Dann Robb

It was obvious though. She got her powers after the pillars started appearing, like others. Then they literally spent a minute talking about her new powers with Amaterasu in the background.

choco

Yall ever gonna react to devilman crybaby

Soso

The theories & mind bending will be PEAK

Oliver

I know we have seen a pic of the world and how most is gone, but it's still crazy to see how little is left of Japan that island is Tokyo Crazyyy

Frazão

The ideia I got is that the doppelganger are how people perceive the real person, so shinra is seen as a devil and that's why his doppelganger is evil, Amaterasu is seen and they're savior and nice since Amaterasu is what powers up the city, then that's why sister is so nice, because she's was the doppelganger all along and the real sister is the Amaterasu

Josh

I was gonna say something about that, like the entire country has been reduced just to that small of land mad ?!!!

Tavis

You're right about Iris. The thing that's hard to convey is Shinra seeing the "real" world isn't a 4th wall break in the traditional sense. It isn't a fictional character realizing they're a cartoon, it's more like.... I'm not sure how to put it. Imagine you could look through the past to before something like the Biblical Great Flood, and what you saw were "people" but like 4th dimensional. Like you see a person, but you see them in every timeline at once Honestly it's brilliantly executed Cosmic Horror. Everything looks familiar in concept, but indescribably "wrong". It's NOT breaking the 4th wall, it's rebuilding the 4th wall around the audience. The "World" as we know it is the prequel to the world of Fire Force. YOU are canon in Fire Force.

Freeofgreed

Same. I’m an anime only and nothing seemed spoilerly to me because i had 0 context for anything. Some people on here just go OD for no reason when it comes to intros.

dragonH

I remember when Shinra noticed Amaterasu looked like Iris, but i didn't think Iris would be the Doppleganger. Ts threw me off, the mystery with this show is lowkey keeping me invested

Fred

Beautiful explanation bro fr as a manga reader I love breakdowns like that because sometimes you’ll understand a plot and it’s aim but explaining it well is another thing

Tbdovan

They'll probably end up watching it the final like 3 episodes because by then everything would have been revealed

Kurxai

so doppel gangers are basically to be hero x heros

Badsos123

The Fire Force gang is back!!! LATOM!!

Diggs

Sad yah skipped the opening but it's definitely understandable because it was spoiler city and yah would've definitely noticed them.

DevilMayCarter

Agreed. Hopefully they still check out the song though, it's pretty good!

Abdoulaye Cherif

wouldn't that mean we'll soon experience the great cataclysm?? 😳

Jojo_avena

I got crazy spoiled in the intro like. . . . one random, second they couldn't wait for the main "event" to show that. Glad yall didn't watch it

cobra22

definitely

cobra22

bro got taken over by Sukuna 😂

jykxela

oohhhh brother!!! you are one of them.

Basedra

The Lupa carrot joke will never not be funny.

Oliver

Where is that from the carrot stuff? XD

GojosHoho

They just hang out in Adolla land and aura farm 💀💀😂

General Grevious

I had no idea this show was this deep, this is insane😭

Nick Frison

Didn’t we already know this? Benimarus doppleganger was extremely strong because the public viewed him as essentially a god, could’ve sword this was established sometime around that fight.

Frazão

Well that fight was much later in the show