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Damn it kakarot

James Smith

Streets been waiting 😂😂

PJ Rivera

Fun fact Tech Jacket was a man in the comics and was so strong he took on 2 invincible variants during the invincible war. Now making tech jacket younger and female I don’t have a problem with but making her so weak is pretty lame ngl especially because we see her take down 1 Invincible variant in the show already but I’m trusting kirkman to cook…also if you missed the joke with “The Walking Dread” Robert Kirkman creator of invincible is also the creator of the walking dead comic series.

MV

Finally

Caleb

its been a long minute. aye say gang

Greg Minner

Been waiting all day for this🤣

Atari

bro had us ALL holding our stomach😭✌🏾

Amire Wright

Bro was playing block blast with his guts

Ryan SB

Holy Peak

Zynx

Finally been waiting all day for this special moment

BankaiWitches

Time to sit bck n relax eat my popcorn

mal

fastest i ever clicked on a vid

Jason Marbach

You gotta give it to Mark. He’s got guts.

Paul Reyes

Been waiting all day like a crackhead off Snowfall

bleach

Mark had guts when he told conquest he won't breathe again

Reign

I like Cecil but man if I’m Mark, I gotta put hands on you when I get back on Earth 😭

Ariginal

Rip Zack thompson, modern day character assasnation

Yourboy Gman

Yall cant say shit about mark now. He killed conquest by himself!!!!!

eastbaynick

Apparently it’s because he’d resemble mark too much like how he is in the comics

Be-Like-Malc

First time any show’s made me sick to my stomach 😭 That shit was too real

BlacKai

Yeah this episode made light headed like lupa be saying but not from laughing

Taj B

been itchin for it like a crackhead🤪🤪

Tre

Looks like those zenkai boosts finally kicked in

Ruin

I had to skip passed it ngl I just couldn’t.

idknunfr

FINALLYYYY 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Jason Marbach

Nothing but love to Lupa, just starting watching now, but you better be holding up a gold plated W for Mark after this ep 🤣

PhaedrusRumple

I like what they did with Debbie here compared to the comics. Great change!

SM Zues

IVE BEEN WAITING 🔥

Kingbrick

Just finished work. Paul for President of Humanity!

Krype

I’m glad Omni man faced actual repercussions from Debbie and Art unlike with the other alien races saying sorry isn’t enough sometimes

Devin B

To think Mark could've kept his guts intact if Cecil didn't fumble as hard as he did

Fendifvce

this nigga conquest poppd up on sum tokyo ghoul shii

Re_Slayer

How you eat it fast

Lightning789

the more i think about it, the more crazy it feels that there is only 50 of these guys left. there was literal billions, and now there are more people in my college dorm building

PJ Rivera

See I knew Kirkman had a reason people were whining about “Woke” “DEI” and “Forced Diversity” but you’re right in the comics they look very similar since they’re both mixed race asian superheroes so they got drawn basically the same😂🤣

Tyrese Marshall

Except he's trying. Vegeta was just accepted

Raymond Terry

Posted just now with 53 comments. What is going on with Patreon?

Arell

What an ending this episode had

OpmBabi

FINALLY BEEN WAITING ALL DAY

Casual

Finna mark locked in and stopped playing around 🙏🙏

A Guy

In terms of excuses it’s a pretty piss poor excuse. It’s as simple as just having a change in design not a complete sex change.

Whyrie

Let’s goooo

Monarch of motion

idk how I feel about this gender swap of tech jacket but they still cool, i just don’t understand the reason for it

Has Noname

What we all learned from this episode? Mark has got guts

yasmin

ppl saying kirkmans making her a love interest for oliver i pray thats not the case🫩

Teapotty?

Im so sorry you guys had to witness the brutality of this episode. This genuinely can leave you traumatized 😭😭😭

Hanno

Weren't those Invincible variants weaker than Mark and the Viltrumites?

Mozart Waddell

Debbie actually brought tears to my eyes. Beautiful scene and the actress gave her everything to it.

Ashley

finally animated 🥹

Mozart Waddell

I have always been a Cecil defender but yeahhh. Mark killing him would be justifiable. That was so graphic! I damn near thought Conquest was about to start chewing on his intestines 🤮😐

NinaaC

Anyone else notice Debbie’s hand not being wrapped up during dinner? And she used them both like she didn’t just fracture it punching Nolan in the chest

Robert Smith

Nah, it happened the exact same way in the comics. This was just the first fight.

Charlie baker

I dont mind her but it is odd to change tech jacket randomly like that

John Bailey

I think she broke her hand cause it was still healing after angstrom

glodgy

i feel bad for sheera she was so miserable after the debbie and nolan scene 😭💔

Hanno

I love that Debbie stands up for Andressa. Idk what bro was thinking by saying that he didn't love Andressa

Fizzy 🐉

YESSSS I LOVE YOU GUYSDD

A Guy

Also, he proceeds to make the character he turned into a woman weaker. I don’t know what hangup he has with his writing style from back then, but this isn’t it.

Jmann

Not a week, but yeah

Mozart Waddell

Everyone hyped Tech Jacket since the reveal during the War of the Invincibles like he was pressure similar to Conquest. I watched the episode with my friend. I remember he told me to stop being a bitch when they wouldn't recast T'Challa my favorite MCU character and they let Shuri pickup the mantle of Black Panther. You couldn't imagine the absolute gleeful pettiness I returned onto him when he seen his favorite Invincible character from comics Tech Jacket a teenage girl. I fully manifested the hand on shoulder meme. It was glorious!! P.S. Never read the Invincible comic so I love Zoey 😁

GigaDirt

It's literally frame for frame and bar for bar with the comics, what do you mean nerfed?

Oni

tech jacket killed the viltrumite mark in season 3 of the invincible war , so she does have the power to fight them

🔥xXZephyrus2002Xx🔥

That was fucked up…even if that could have been a lie him saying that alone was just bad 😒

Hanno

Oliver needs to stick Earth villains. He's a complete liability against Viltrumites

PhaedrusRumple

Don’t forget that viltrumites can regenerate from bullshit!

Esteban

I actually liked Cecil until his stupid ass did the conquest shit bruh

GigaDirt

Cecil has always been my favorite character in the comics and show but the conquest stuff did lower Cecil stocks quite a bit.

🔥xXZephyrus2002Xx🔥

Difference between this conquest fight and the last one is that Mark is actually ready for this mf and he didn’t fight an Army of himself before hand 😅

Diablos Cafe

Only one person to blame for this, bitch ass Cecil.

PJ Rivera

Most were but some were close and Tech jacket in the comics fought some of the strongest and in the show tech jacket took on one of the stronger mark variants by herself so this random weakness is weird

🔥xXZephyrus2002Xx🔥

Right I’m still pissed this guy thought it was a good idea to keep this crazy old cow alive

Diablos Cafe

I noticed that as soon as it happened, like y’all just showed us 2 minutes ago her hands wrapped up and skin being ripped off 😭

Magnis

mark gonna knock cecil head off bruh

Kisuke01

Mark is fine remember that black bald dude was holding his guts

David Camacho

I’m bitch slapping Cecil once I get back to earth .

Casual

Also tech jacket killed one of the marks when they invaded so she is strong enough to fight the viltrumites

ShadowMan

Theres a difference from holding your breath and getting strangled

Seth-San

So the reason they brought tech jacket along if you guys remember she took down one of the evil invincibles in space when they attacked earth by herself. So she’s capable of fighting viltrumites.

PJ Rivera

They nerfed her power levels for some reason in the comics tech jacket was a man and took on 2 invincible variants and killed both of them. In the show its just one but its a good feat regardless. My issue isn’t with the gender change its the fact they made her weaker for no reason lmao she’s supposed to be one of the strongest heroes on earth

JustThatOtherDude

Am I the only one disappointed there wasn't a caption? :(

Mugiwara

MARK IS A DAWG

Frederick

Mark should be dead

Casual

Everyone that said that mark couldn’t win the first time he just won now😭😭

Be-Like-Malc

The reason they bring Tech Jacket along is bc her suit is created by the Gelderians. The Gelderians were on Omni Man’s list of things that can hurt Viltrumites. On the episode where they went looking for their weaknesses they told him to use their representative that they had on Earth already, which was Tech Jacket.

Casual

I don’t mind the gender swap but making her not do anything in the fight was annoying and unnecessary

mal

this was a season finale type of episode for invincible so i can’t imagine what episode 8 is gonna look like😭

Dark Danny

I love how they handled Oliver and Debbie's meeting up with Nolan in the show

namibby

Tech jacket took out multiple marks in the war so that’s way they recruited her

Kingmakaii

Imagine someone choking tf out you and your literally beating the shit out them and they still won’t let go no matter how hard you hit them then you put your entire arm through the stomach rip the guts out and they still won’t let go like my nigga let go get off me 😭

Tabbs

Oliver needs that training arc, biggest liability during that fight

kingBD

30:55 this a Snowpiercer reference?🤣🤣🤣

Imari

After my fifth rewatch I officially can look at the screen the whole time at that last scene lol.

Hi tech

😂👀

Zen-Aku

Yeah choking someone to death while having your insides literally pulled out is tough 😧😳. Plus the fact this shit is gonna make him stronger when he recovers is insane 🔥.

Jack

I love that you can notice exactly when Conquest realizes that mark was willing to die, just to kill him. He starts to get desperate, but he just realised to late, he tried to toy with him like last season .

Dontsop Keran

I don’t want to hear no more Mark Slander, ts over with 😂

Hanno

Mark needs to kill Cecil. I had my guts out man

Imari

Lmfao mark is insane in the opposite way of the viltrumites his willpower is insane he truly doesn’t stop till his opponent is in the dirt that’s what makes him invincible

6CatsInAnAlley

Didn’t Lucan get his guts spilled? Maybe that’s why they showed him again to tell us Mark is fine?

Fizzy 🐉

Oliver really just there to give mark a zenkai boost other than that he a liability the lights are too bright for him

Fizzy 🐉

Well he can’t be dead cause he is….

Imari

After this he basically locks in for the whole rest of the series

Zen-Aku

Fr. Lol If I was Mark, as soon as I got back to earth, I would literally slap the skin off Cecil's face 🤣.

Hanno

"You're never breathing again" and he meant that shit 🥶🥶🥶🥶

Hi tech

lmfaooo when u see that viltrumite hand you kno its straight business 👋🏽

Tbdovan

Chat seeing what Mark not holding back looks like when he intends to kill someone lol..got folks on Twitter talking about Conquest was nerfed 😂

Fuji

debby VA killed it in that scene holy

Semaj Brown

Conquest is kinda dumb. If you have the strength to punch through someone, then why didn’t he straighten out his hands and slice through mark arms. Mark can’t choke you without arms

TAE

DIGGIN IN THEM GUTS

Peter Gilmer

Credit to both Mark and Conquest, Mark didn't let go, and Conquest didn't stop until his last breath.

Daniel Sol

I can't believe Invincible gave us another Rengoku donut situation... And this one was jelly filled!

Fendifvce

i get you roshi buh bru if you dont go are you ready for 10 viltumites when they js appear on earth nn shit pops off uu seen what all the mark variants did, imagine 10 old viltumites who could just crash the planet fast

Paul Reyes

I can’t wait to see how ppl will react once Thragg gets active

Daniel Sol

He like 15 now... he'll get strong as an adult which will be like in like a year

Nick

It is explained why he doesn't after this.

Hanno

I'm going to see Conquest's face in my nightmares

Co

Stomach is softer than bony muscular arms. And Conquest broke Mark's arms once. It didn't work.

JustThatOtherDude

In the show's defense...... the vilturmites aren't exactly the brightest bunch Probably cuz they called everyone with glasses

SWOBBY

wish more people noticed this, he could've definitely killed Mark but as Allen said, their egos get in the way of intelligence and shit like this happens.

Brannon

Damn all General Telia did was give a side eye and that alone is enough to accuse her of being the mole lol.

Kylian

Mark said I hate you let's die

Crilgon

Sheera is ACTUALLY pissing me off so bad bro what are you on

SWOBBY

Dude also has every reason to hate his guts and I mean LOATHE him, after what he did to Eve, it was wraps.

Shawn Oxley

Oliver almost got turned into Red Rush 2 good lord Also Tech Jacket was for some reason gender swapped and weakened in the show. They actually took out 2 invincible variants (changed to 1 in the show) and did a little bit of damage during this fight in the comic The argument with Debbie and the Mark/Conquest fight were peak though

George

Apparently in the comics, they specify that Mark started choking him out when he was already winded which is why Conquest started getting desperate and just doing anything to get Mark off him. Also with how hard Mark was gripping his neck, there's a good chance that tearing off or slicing Mark's arm also damages him. But yeah I can see how not having that tidbit makes Conquest look like a little bit of a jobber compared to his first appearance.

Nick

Lack of leverage in that position?

Kingbrick

he had more guts than conquest had air in his lungs.

Gilthwixt

To answer your question Roshi, Tech Jacket was one of the only heroes to 1v1 an Evil Mark last season and win, that's why she got brought along. She didn't have any dialogue or get name dropped but you see the results of her winning after killing one of the Marks in space.

supremetheG

i don’t think she’s the mole, what exactly is she supposed to do in that situation🤷🏾‍♂️

Semaj Brown

Yeah, for me it’s not if it works or not. More so I feel like it’s a obvious option to try if I can’t pry your hands from my throat and doing damage to you to make you let go isn’t working

Isaac

Nah. Another Viltrumite would do the same shit.

Nick

Where are people getting that Viltrumites get zenkai boosts? That isn't a thing. They get stronger just like humans do. By training and experience.

Xemnas27

Good Lord that last scene was fucking psychotic. Mark is a demon. Love this show sm

Gilthwixt

Making her a girl and making her younger/weaker both seem to tie into what they were hinting at this episode, i.e. she's now Oliver's love interest. So we can argue about why *that* is good or bad but it at least makes some sense rather than being randomly different for no other reason.

Diggs

Tech Jacket is basically the geldarians equivalent to battle beast which is why they recruited her. She's not weak and she was honestly less of a liability than Oliver. Conquest was still playing with Mark until he finally realized that Mark was really crazy enough to not stop choking him no matter what. I'm sure even plenty of viltrumites would've let go in that situation but once Mark hates you then its over. I'm weak though I don't think shes the mole the ship they were on was genuinely ass and Techjacket has some high level shit on so it makes sense that multiple of her sensors picked it up before any of the ships did.

Jay

I genuinely think that while Mark was choking him out across the planet Conquest started thinking for the first time he ran into someone that was crazier than him. Because what do you mean I’m playing the irl version of Operation with your organs and you’re STILL going.

Fendifvce

lupa: what am i supposed to do Me: SQUABBLE NIGGA 😭😭

King97

Nah she just broke it again. It's also Omni Man. She was basically punching steel

Diggs

Lucan got impaled by a big ass rock and healed it off,Nolan healed his back being broken and Conquest survived having his head caved in and getting his body fried so it's not surprising that he lives.

Magnis

lupa mad asf about the roach cube 😭

Alexis Sullivan

Tech Jacket solo'd one of the Marks last season so that's part of why they asked her to come. The only showed her victory in a kind of slide show at the end of the season so you might not have noticed or remembered

Diggs

I think it's cause they may want to set up her and Oliver and cause of the fact that Tech Jacket might look too much like Mark

Devola

I dont think ive ever clenched my jaw that hard wtf was that fight

IanW645

Viltrumite regeneration is omega busted. The stuff these guys can survive and heal from is beyond horrifying. So long as a Viltrumite isn't FULLY dead and their innate healing isn't weakened by something like the Scourge Virus these guys can recover from just about anything imaginable. Like take Conquest himself for instance: This dude got his face and skull caved in and had 75% of his entire skin flayed off down to the muscles and he still healed back to normal from sitting in the full-body tungsten cube that Cecil put him in like it was a damn spa treatment. They're scary.

Diggs

Either that or because him and Mark look very similar

Isaac

Loved this episode from start to finish. Omniman, loved that he changed, but like Endeavor, he has to live the rest of his days making up for what he did and not expect anything in return from the people he hurt; the pain of that is part of the atonement process. I also hope this is a wake up call to Oliver too. He aint as badass as he thinks he is and needs Ominman's guidance on how to be ruthless which I hope happens because those two need to bond. We aint got time for that I can do bad all by myself attitude from him. TALK TO YOUR FATHER LIL BOI. Big W for Mark but damn Conquest played in his guts a little too much... I know he's gonna survive but SHIT man. He can heal but he needs medical attention for the healing process to be smoother ...

Gorrr

Bruh idk if anyone else was feeling tht but me personally felt every gut get ripped out ( I’m over here skirmming in my bed)🤣🤣🤣

Alexis Sullivan

I've defended some of Cecil's actions, like him putting the sound thing in Mark's head in case he went rogue, but him keeping Conquest alive......I would not be mad if Mark killed him. I and Eve almost died fighting him and he would've died had you let him and now I got my guts untangled like headphone cords cuz of you? It's on sight

King of New York

How the fuck are they supposed to put all that shit back inside him?😭

Devin B

Aside from Thragg, Mark isn't that far off from other Viltrumites

Ernie

Mark channeling his inner python.

Cool The Wrathful

I literally yelled “YOU WERE TALKING ALL THAT GOOD SHIT A SECOND AGO, CONQUEST. WHATS GOOD NIGGAAAAA, WHATS REALLY GOOOOOOD?” My nigga Mark, man. That scene was brutal asf but he did that shit.

TheBoyWonder

from what I've heard, they gender swapped tech jacket because he is just too similar to mark in the comics and they wanted to change it up, plus all of the fighters they get seem to all be male so it adds a little bit of diversity, and I imagine they weakened tech jacket for the show to give a little extra stakes to make the viltrumites seem even stronger.

Isaac

I wouldnt be surprised if he had autoerotic asphyxiation because hes the type to have boners for vicious fights clearly.

jared zavala

Did mark finally lock in ? Is is this marks dub ?

Vinne

Belt??

Vinne

So she's like this universe's blue beetle?

Badsos123

BLOODBATH CITY!!!

Mari

It’s gonna get wicked 💀

Diggs

I'm not an avid blue beetle fan so I'm not sure. In the aspect of they have a really strong piece of alien tech to help them then yeah but that's all I could tell you honestly.

Tim

GLENN GOT HIS LICK BACK

EDHPlayer

So, Viltrumites can survive any injury so long as their brain and heart are undamaged

King of New York

But the thing is his guts didn't just fall out all neatly. They were ripped, twisted, mushed, and splattered EVERYWHERE. That shit's in the soil now. They can't just stuff it back in like wires, how is he going to eat anything?😭🫡

RedSunCrusher!!!

I was completely fine with them gender changing some of the characters but for Tech Jacket. I am not a fan of this change and from what I've have been hearing they might make her and Oliver a couple like we need more of that in the show.

howwlll

This is the first time I've joined them in wincing lol. I read the comics, but it's probably been over 10 years and I forgot how that fight went down + now seeing it animated. Yeesh

TheBoyWonder

well no one other then mark really did anything during that fight so if they made her actually be able to take one of them on then it wouldn't make sense for anyone else to not be able to. There also just showing how strong the viltrumites really are.

soniq

And they can’t grow back missing parts like conquest arms or Kriegs eye

Charlie baker

Which is alittle weird considering we know of a certain someones proclivities for shellfish

soniq

Just slop it back in duck tape him close and give him a month

Fawaz Ilupeju

pretty sure they know that, just that tech jacket's fight showing's been pre bad, didn't 1 shot a scrub and didtnt damage any viltrumites, so yea very reasonable to ask why she there

Ernie

Debbie is smart, This is sorta like a guy cheats on his wife for you and you think you're special but in reality, you could have been in her position, effectively making yourself to be the fool. By defending ladybug she shows that it's a Nolan problem and she isn't there to be a support system for him. But to be a moral reminder that he is not good enough.

EDHPlayer

Only if the missing limb or part is gone forever, otherwise they can just reattach it

Śtórmí X

Wait a second actually earth isn’t totally viltrumite free, Eve cooking one up rn

RedSunCrusher!!!

Well I don't know nothing about the comics so whoever you're talking about I don't know of. I'm just saying from what little I know of Tech Jacket. And what I've seen from the show right now I'm just not vibing with this change.

LC

Glad I finished eating right before that final scene. Jeeesuuusss

Mozart Waddell

Same. I didn't think anything would get me anymore after what Conquest did to Eve. I was wrong. Hope they add this finisher in the game though.

Fuji

also its weird we saw her kill a mark variant in the past but she is completely useless in this fight, i know the mark variants were weaker but damn she is getting folded

Balenciagason

Not even just that Oliver ages so fast by the time she's an adult hes gonna be in his 40s

RedSunCrusher!!!

Oh you know I completely forgot he ages fast so that would make it even worse if they go that route.

DocGreen

And just like that invincible went from the most trash episode to the best episode it has had. No excuse for last week though that shit was just to pad out 8 episodes

DIOR

hes literally a mark clone like best tiger, w change tbh the de-aging is the real issue

DocGreen

Nawh that man's still alive. You expect me to believe getting his brain mushed couldn't kill him but getting choked out can

DocGreen

She still is. But remember everyone in the show is weaker especially mark

muchojefe

the fight that changes mark

King of New York

If I'm not mistaken there may be some ambiguity there though right? Conquest and Kregg lost their arm and eye while infected by the Scourge virus, which weakened their healing and regenerative abilities. That's also why they have scars I think, instead of the skin healing like how it otherwise would for Viltrumites.

Daniel

The apology scene was such a bittersweet moment for me. I was cheering Debbie on. She’s by far one of the most strongest characters. She stopped herself from ending it at the peak of her grief while Nolan was committed to falling into the black hole. It also brought sadness because the relationship built on a lie part hits close to home

Twin Hallow

I feel like Mark should be there for his mom a bit better. Like I would be outside ready for when Nolan left.

howwlll

It's pretty close. Like Blue Beetle, Zack/Zoe can't fully remove the armor, which made the end credit a bit confusing for me. I guess we couldn't see their full body, so it could still be forming the hiding place around her

Totally Thomas

Mark spitting out Conquest's thumb without breaking eye contact was foul!!! His hatred knew no bounds. And give it up for Debbie's VA. That scene with Nolan was strong, and can bring a tear to your eye over what their relation was.

Gilthwixt

Didn't they already say that Oliver is aging up fast to reach his prime but once he gets there his viltrumite genes will take over and he'll stop aging just like Omni-man & Mark?

howwlll

I'm in the same boat. An interview with Kirkman says that he was worried Zack would be too similar to Mark at this point in the show, so the change was made. I'm fine with that point and I also like Zoe so far. But oh boy we so do not need some invented romance shoehorned into this arc. I really don't think this show does romance very well and I would not trust an Oliver+Zoe storyline to be written interestingly.

soniq

That definitely played into it but idk if you’ve read the comics but a viltrumites loses an arm and they have to get a robotic one and they weren’t infected

Yeh2001

Roshi a little too optimistic about this baby

Chimera134

Balenciagason you forgot the part of Viltrumite Blood in him. As Nolan said "Viltrumite blood is so pure, that even you Mark, a half Human and Half Viltrumite will eventually be nearly a full blloded Viltrumite eveentually" This is true for Oliver as well, it's why his skin is already turning pink instead of Blue. Oliver is going to age super fast like thebug people, but then like an Elf, the longer he lives the slower he will age. His lifespan will still be a fraction of a normal Viltrumite's. But that is till like hundreds or a thousand years old instead of several thousand years old. As Nolan is believed to be 5000 (Comic. Show changed that to 1000. Interesting change!) and he looks like his late 40's/ mid 50's.

GNEISS

she did kind of one shot him also id assume she was not trying to murder that random villain on earth lol

GrandNubian

Right?? Allen the Alien gets zenkai boosts; Viltrumites do not.

SakuraBlossom

-Debbie's voice actress went off in that scene with her and Nolan. Very talented. I love Debbie's character too btw. Her feelings about Nolan are so real and understandable. -Oliver shouldn't have gone with them, this is far above his level. -That scene at the end was so grody, good god almighty. The body horror 🤢 I had to look away. -Also Sheera is right, this episode makes up for the last for sure.

GNEISS

mostly because conquest likes to play with his food lol

Maham Aziz

No idea what’s upsetting you.

GNEISS

in his defense... how tf was he supposed to kill conquest? why would burning him work lol

GrandNubian

The fact that Mark was willing to die at Nolan’s hands rather than turn against humanity in Season 1 told us everything we need to know about Mark and his willpower. Mark is HIM. Let him cook.

LC

It does drive me crazy that they never learn to fight together. Maybe it's an animation limitation but whenever they have the opportunity to double team someone, they just don't.

Daniel Sol

Yall are doubting tech jacket now but she beat two mark variants by herself AND she tanked a kick from a viltrumite to the head which would have made anyone else tomato paste. I'm sure she and Allen will shine the next episode cause Allen should be busted now, too. They just had to keep the focus on mark and conquest.

GNEISS

exactly

GrandNubian

Oliver does NOT deserve Tech Jacket

Sauceless

Tech jacket managed to defeat invincible variants but in this fight she was useless i dont care if she got genderswapped who cares but why nerf her

Jonathan Hart

The physiology in this show makes no sense. How the fuck does Mark not die here💀

Cole hauser

Oliver almost getting killed exactly like Red Rush did to Nolan episode 1 was crazy and of course it was Nolan who saves Oliver from that.

Patrick Johnson

I was syncing the episode with your reaction, and I don't know HOW yall not concerned about Invincible surviving. I know the show is named after him but HE PULLED OUT HIS INTENSTINES! There's no way he can fight another battle for the rest of the season unless some insane healing from the tech girl or something

Esteban

Wym kill, he was dead and Cecil (and in fairness mark too ) was supposed to keep him dead, not let him regenerate super chill

Paul Reyes

Cus he’s just built different lol

ImJuels

same thing happened to lucan when omni man ripped him in half

MonarchXIII

Tech Jacket killed two Invincible variants by herself. I'd say that's reason enough to recruit her.

mansbestanky

Viltrumites can heal from crazy injuries that humans can't, they just need time to heal, Conquest healed from having his head demolished and caved in but after he looked the exact same.

King of New York

Yeah, I think the difference between the other characters and Tech Jacket is that characters like Shrinking Rae and Green Ghost were footnotes in the comics who got fleshed out into real characters in the show (mainly Rae). Tech Jacket was already a very substantial character. He's got his own compendium. From what I hear, they swapped him because he was too similar to Mark. I liked the comic version but I also think Zoe is a ton of fun. They're very much pointing towards the Oliver relationship angle though, which I don't know how to feel about.

Rhett Sumner

Welllll.. locked in and winning are not one in the same i will say tho. Sometimes ur just up against him👀

Keevondrick Womack

Easy answer; THAT'S BECAUSE HE'S- (Queue Title Card)

crack

I don’t think people realize the fact that tech jacket can even take a few punches from viltrumites is insane

Mel

Don’t forget Lucan’s guts were spilled with a rock through them. Mark will be just fine.

Kris Barnes

Damn Mark beat Conquest solo. He’s really gotten better since season 3

Zen-Aku

I mean it in the form of experience from fighting powerful enemies, cause last time he couldn't kill him on his own, this time he did. I'm just saying surviving a previous fight with that dude played a part in him finally being able to beat and kill him on his own.

RedSunCrusher!!!

But you know what's crazy there's another character who looks like Mark too but they didn't change him though.

Alfred

We need Satan witchcraft

artisticSarcasm

Nolan also did a similar thing to Lucian and gutted him but dude is back to form. He'll be back at it for sure

qdubs

lmaoooo

Rozay31

1. They brought Zoe because she beat one of the mark variant’s by herself 2. How tf do you consider they first fight mostly eve win💀 she did do a good amount but was it not mark to hurt him enough the first time and finished him off the second

Rhett Sumner

Nah it’s stated in the comic (pretty sure by Nolan when talking with Oliver while mark recovers) that viltrumites grow stronger with each near death experience, but not on Allen’s level where he gets a major boost from natural recovery. I’ve always viewed viltrumites near death boost being like a level up in power where Allen is like 5 levels every time lol.

AmpLvX

Fuck allat why ain’t mark and Nolan jump Allan to get him to force evolve one more time before the war

Kevinsog24

LMAO the protein roach block mention. From that one movie with the train right? And not gonna lie if I’m Nolan I’d also ask Art for a new costume I mean fuck it what more do I got to lose right and on my way off planet I’m saying wassup to cecil too💀

Lezu

I don't think that's how it works, if anything his aging will flatten out because his viltrumite genes are taking over. Notice how less purple he's turning. So he'll be in his prime for quite a while (outliving her and), probably not as long as Mark.

Rhett Sumner

Something tells me you sir know ball…😶

Zen-Aku

I knew it was something like that. Lol I never read the comic but I could of sworn it was mentioned in an earlier season.

Dan Cervantes

that was a clown car of intestines…

Indifferent Denji

no eve was the one who literally stopped him from killing mark and took off his skin. Without her he straight up would have died then. And only conquest said eve did more because hes a sore loser and just wants to piss off mark

Kahdeem Suliaman

Viltrumites are pretty much like Sayians they have super high durability

èé o_O

It went on for sooo loooooong I was grabbing the ground through my shoes

Keevondrick Womack

I'm usually pretty good with the gore in this show. I was stunned after Conquest did the Viltrumite knife hand they love doing, but I wasn't surprised. Steve Harvey was about to do it Oliver, but Nolan stepped in. But...the sounds and visuals of Mark slowly getting innards pulled out? Coupled with the lack of music and Mark's pained screams and groans?...Even though it's animated, it made me a bit squeamish. That was nature documentary type shit

JustThatOtherDude

Fair... but two alt Marks is probs about 3/4 of one which is about 1 Oliver IMO

REESE

Nah Cecil gotta pay for this shit man

Rhett Sumner

I agree with all that bout Nolan having to spend the rest of his life making up for it, which opens the door for true forgiveness.. which will be a Huge point/theme throughout the rest of the story in many different aspects, and i can’t wait to see it all come together 😭

Jake McGrevey

bro patreon needs to add quality sliders because having to spam refresh when it goes to low bitrate is so annoying

PolarToni

Y'all remember that tech jacket took out a viltrumite mark alone in space last season. She's a problem

Rozay31

Yes that maybe be true but it have nothing to do wit what I said, I literally say that she did help out a lot and did a good amount but it is still considered more mark win than eve’s bc he would have gotten up and killed her again😭, and Yoshi said it too and I seen other people agree with them

EDHPlayer

I’ve read the comics since 06 so I’m familiar. Look back, other than Conquest, were there any Viltrumites without limbs? Conquest’s arm was eaten by a Ragnar so it wasn’t recoverable. Eyes are easily destroyed (super fragile) so it’s reasonable to assume his and Kregg’s weren’t able to be returned. With all the changes, idk what to really expect but I was saying - in case the question came up - so if someone goes “how could mark survive that?” The answer would be there

Balenciagason

Not unless your a main character only reaosn co qeust lived is cause of Cecil

Gwyn

That conversation with Debbie hurt way worse than getting his shit kicked in by his parents.

rhema .

my ass just realised that the coalition and the others don’t know about the viltrumite weakness to high frequency cecil used in season 3 💔

rhema .

what annoys me even more is that he didn’t even THINK to use that same weakness but instead tried to “contain” conquest…

King of New York

Someone's gotta let Sheera know that Cecil isn't a villain🙏. Everything he's done has been in the interest of trying to save the most people.

Jose You

mf comparing invincible variants to full grown viltrumites LMAO

Unknown

Not only did Tech Jacket solo a Mark (albeit that Mark was weaker than our Mark), the Geldarians were introduced as a highly advanced planet that the whole current Viltrum Empire were too scared to conquer by themselves that they had to send a different species to try and exterminate them. Which FAILED. And after Nolan’s apology, they stated that a strong warrior was on earth already

Sauceless

U right they are stronger but she was clearly nerfed

Ezra

I’m not even gonna lie, I don’t think Telia is the mole. I remember her mentioning a mole when Allen and her reunited back in episode 2. It would be weird for her to out herself like that, and if she is the mole, she got some great acting because she looked genuinely upset she had to leave them behind.

Step Joe

Does she know that bro? Tf she using the mini arm blasters for?

Unknown

From the fact that Mark didnt start breaking like a twig by Conquest like in season 3, means Mark is now CONSIDERABLY stronger. He just technically outlasted and soloed Conquest. THE Viltrumite that most Viltrumites are scared of.

Rin Okumura

Conquest is the GOAT! He's literally Gabimaru. He got that: I'm ok dying but I'll make sure to take yall MF with me attitude.

MonarchXIII

@Ragnar Pendon yeah true but when you consider she's one of the only hero's on Earth who actually managed to do something during the Invincible War (RIP the goat Rex) it makes sense why they'd at least recruit her. She's kinda the best they got with the hand they've been dealt tbh. Even if the other Mark's were weak as fuck. Help is help.

MonarchXIII

@Step Joe man don't ask me. Idk blame the showrunners or something lol.

Jose You

lucan recovered from an injury not too dissimilar to mark too, maybe a little less gruesome but viltrumite physiology is pretty different. hell conquest survived whatever he went through last season too.

HIM

*Plays Theme Song from Nickelodeon/Global GUTS* GUTS!

Phroug

Viltrumite bodies are just built like that. Conquest survived getting his brain turned into mashed potatoes last season

ERRORCODE616

Nah fuck burying his pieces, take all those pieces and throw them into different suns in different galaxies.

Phroug

I'm not going to lie, literally everyone except Mark and Oliver were nerfed in that fight. I mean Allen seemingly took zero damage from a full force hit from Anissa in season 2, he should've been able to beat that unnamed Viltrumite on his own with no problems. Same with Nolan and Lucan

Hi tech

seeing it animated was wayy more intense holy shit 😂

Xay

Mark is on da ground exactly how Nolan had him on season 1 except his guts out

StorySmith []

Starting to get suspicious about Allen girlfriend every time Allen is getting jumped by aliens he is with her. Also the ships core is compromised and they have to leave behind their 5 best fighters for this war? Seems almost too convenient

These Plums

When Roshi says "Chain" does he mean "Cog"?

Panda_senpai

I said it before on a prev reaction of this series I'll say it again if we can forgive Vegeta we can forgive Nolan

Godrick

I am PROFOUNDLY disappointed by this version of Tech Jacket.. I was gassed up for this character and they took ALL of the sauce out of him.... or I guess I should say "her" now.

DocGreen

Vegeta never killed sla whole city or tried to kill son. Even if you count majin Vegeta he wished them all back. What nolan did was way worse

King of New York

Nah wayyyy different than Kiritsugu. Like not even close. Cecil doesn't have a philosophy that's a complete contradiction. Kiritusu is massively depressed and has a flawed view of the world. Cecil has literally done the most logical thing that makes the most sense for the good of everyone while supporting Mark and every hero along the way. He's gone out of his way to act like a father figure to Mark and prevent him from going down a darker path. If he didn't have the sonic technology or have Sinclair make the reanimen, the Invincible variants would have murdered everyone in the GDA. The only "fault" was with Conquest. That's not even the character's fault, it was just bad writing. It makes zero sense for him not to have implanted devices or safe measures within Conquest's body. Or for him to allow Conquest to fully heal without any supervision or protocols.

Dolly Dearest

What is the roach cube reference?

I'Zanay Rogers

Are you guys going to react to the new Mario movie when it comes out on tv??

Zack

snowpiercer

howwlll

Food in the movie Snowpiercer, I think

Mruker

Ppl weren't mad abt that conquest fight in s3 bc they thought it was all Mark they were mad bc you yall were calling Mark trash when he was fighting the equivalent of prime Mike Tyson with Mark as a toddler 😭

Blood Wizard

Yeah but I mean what do you expect when you decide to marry a fucking alien? And Deb only stopped herself from “ending it at the peak of her grief” was because she still had her family if she was in Nolan’s shoes she would of flew in that black hole immediately Nolan spared the planet and is now trying to save it give the man some credit

Panda_senpai

Idk where y'all getting this info but she is not the mole that's All I will say

King of New York

It's because during the fight, Conquest wasn't losing until Eve fried him and burned his skin off. After that, Mark finished him off. Without Eve, Mark would have been bashed. He still did damage to Conquest during the fight but that was not a situation where he was going to win. The entire fight he was getting ragdolled.

Rozay31

Yeah he was getting whooped the whole fight but wasn’t eve eliminated in 3 minutes💀 and yes they needed each other but it’s definitely more mark win bc he was able to finish him off and deal more damage

Blood Wizard

I knew I wasn’t tripping it’s been a while since I read this shit but why tf they change tech jacket into girl? That nigga was lit asf now they changed his whole persona that mf got hoed like why not just keep shit the same? Smfh

Mozart Waddell

Seeing Conquest use the "sunkiss" technique 😮👌 Piccolo would be proud

Aaron williams

Idk vageta was a kid when his planet was destroyed Nolan killed people on countless planets his whole life and he’s waaaaaaay older than vageta so this isn’t equivocal at all.

Hatty Time

I mean they for sure nerfed Allen. Allen at this point in time could take on multiple Viltrumites without suffering any real damage if I recall.

Chimera134

So this episode was LOOOAAADS better than the last episode! Mini Essay time! To start. The rapid fire talks between Nolan and everyone, and everyone without Nolan. I think these talks reallllyy suffered in animation, but WOW the voice actress for Debbie hit it off amazingly. You can feel the betrayel in her voice, even if you can't really see it on her face much. But the choice to have her sit there in silence for awhile until the "repair the damage" line set her off was a great use of limited budget and animation. The actual talk about how Nolan is selfish is very good too. Because he is. You can be sympathetic to Nolan, he is essentially the first Viltrumite to care and want to change, even Thaeddus talks about eradicating the Viltrumites from the universe, but Nolan is actively trying to become better. But that does not absolve him of 1000 (huh... comics had him as less than >5000 if I recall) years of torment, torture, enslaving races, destroying peoples, etc. But it is a change. I like Zoe's character, and it is odd that the Walking Dread put up so much of a fight against her considering she killed a Variant Mark by herself. Maybe even though he was a 1 off villain, the Walking Dread was actually a big problem for any lesser heroes? Her personality is fun, and I like that she and her Dad have an actual superhero family relationship too. And not just bitter loneliness x 10000 like most superheros. As for the actual gender swap part. I'm mixed on it. As Tech Jacket has his own comics just like Invincible. But they never took off anywhere near as much as Invincible did. Ending after just 29 chapters. So maybe rebooting Tech Jacket and giving him some new lore, new flavors, etc will be a good thing for having him in future series? The talk, or rather, enormous lack of a talk between Eve and Mark made me really upset. Cause as Roshi said, and as several of my friends have said. I WOULD FIGHT SO MUCH HARDER knowing my girlfriend/ Wife was PREGNANT WITH MY CHILD before a fight. It was also aa known documented thing in many wars. If someone has a family to go back to, they will often fight much much harder. Though not as hard as someone who is like a total battle maniac psycho with a deathwish/ a stone cold killer who looks like his name is Steve. (that is funny war knowledge. Look it up, tons of the top killers in many wars look like your average accountant dude, and stacked like 50+ bodies all by themselves. Living version of "i didn't get PTSD. I am the Ptsd for the xxxxxxx" ) But seriously. Eve hiding it, and saying "nothing is as important as you going to war for months?" That hit me as SUCH a Kirkman Spider-man line. From personal sad stuffs, I was absolutely devastated when I learned I could have been a father with a previous girlfriend, even if she ended up extremely toxic and abusive in every way, that doesn't mean anything for the baby. That would have been my kid, an innocent kid brought into the world by me. Didn't matter how old I was, I wanted to be a Father and take care of it, and I would have had some family backup, even if my Mom might have killed me herself, haha. But you know, teenagers make dumb decisions. It pains me that the show seems very intent in going "that direction" for Eve and Mark. Still, their lines were overall really cute, and you can really feel the love between them, even if the writing wants to make them suffer. And now the rest of the episode! The little montage of them bonding / going about their business on the ship was fun. Maybe Zoe x Oliver? Or maybe just them as friends. Kinda odd if Oliver ends up looking 20 years old and she is still 15-20? Her age is not stated in this version so. Oliver joining the fight went as expected. He is a cocky little shit and I love him for that. He thinks he is allllll that and then he gets dumpstered by practically everyone but Elephant Man haha. It is a good reminder that he is still really young, and hasn't had too many battles yet. Mark was getting his ass beat for three whole seasons after all. Does suck that Tech Jacket seemed pretty weak in this battle, obviously she just managed to beat a weaker Mark variant, not a full blooded several hundred year old Viltrumite. But dang she didn't do a scratch! Though she also did not use her purple lazer beam so maybe that's her big end all attack that risks making her vulnerable too. Her suit seems pretty "do damage, take damage, regenerate" in this version, rather than a nearly immortal unpenetrable suit that it kinda seemed like in the comics. And as for Mark x Conquest. That was AMAZING. The GOD SLAP that could have been was crazy. Kinda wish we got some of Mark's trash talking from the comics. His "Did you just exhale thinking you were going to get an easy breath? Well I am never letting you breathe again" was insane in the comics. But the animation and how long and CRINGE INDUCING that fight was in the show was intense. I don't think I've ever actually winced so much in a fight as seeing Mark's guts get dragged out with sickening squelches as the light slowly leaves Conquests eyes. Conquest vs Mark was utterly incredible. The insane speed of their flying, the shockwave impacts, the grueseomeness on their faces and Mark's savagery as he bit his thumb off and spat it out, then kept choking even as his guts were torn out. (Also as a little thing to "how does he have so much guts!" in real life, your guts are folded up soooo much they fit inside you nicely, but if stretched out, they can actually go well over 40 feet on average! As for who the mole is. I do think the show changed who the mole is from the comics. And currently it seems like show Mole is Tellia. It just seems wayyy too "Oh yeah everywhere I go the viltrumites show up, but they never hurt me or chase me, only threaten me" like when they came and threatened her then ripped Allen to pieces in season 2. Overall such a good episode, even if I felt like it could have been even better if Amazon didn't spend 4 gatrillion dollars on celebrity actors instead of voice actors and animators. SO excited for the next few episodes!

Marsuvies Black

you have 25 feet of intestines in u right now that looked about right.

Grislyfrostbite

Hey man, Mark Told Conquest "You're Never Breathing Again!" And He meant that!

howwlll

The sauce is stuck in the bottle, just need to tap it a little. (I'm thinking that the showrunners don't want her to be super strong right away so that they can show some growth. Tech Jacket had more appearances in the comics + standalone issues so he was already fleshed out when he joined up for the war)

King of New York

The show has a powerscaling problem in general which is pretty well known. People have made video essays and whole paragraph threads about it. Even Kirkman has addressed it at cons a few times. An example from a few eps ago was with Titan. In that scene, Mark was supposed to be venting his frustrations and releasing all of his anger onto Titan by repeatedly punching him and losing control. If that's the case then Titan should be mush after one punch because that's the same Mark we had in this episode. He hasn't levelled up since then.

CAM

No vageta was a grown ass man as well, wtf are you talking about, both were bred and raised to be violent, proud, and especially so for Viltrimite culture

Aaron williams

I was sis about her the moment they said there was a mole it can’t be anyone but her. She would be a “honey pot” a female spy that seduces their target. It’s a real thing

Mitch

that was disgusting man 😭

Koji

how much stronger did mark get good lord. that mf took on conquest alone and was tanking hits like fuck😭

Shelly P

Something i think is a great touch if its intentional is theres still light outside when mark n eve leave for omni man to make his apology. But by time nolan goes in the house, it’s night time. Implying he probably stood outside for hours out of nervousness before trying to confront debbie

Wut funny

anything can change who knows

DevilMayCarter

DO YOU HAVE IT?! Also...Eve, tell this man already!

tae

I feel like they nerfed tf outta her character, nobody really gets why she was picked for the war when tech jacket is actually raw in the comics

tobsultraman80085

Honestly her mentioning the mole got me thinking that she's the mole even more

HIM

Yo, I ALSO think Telia is the mole, and have since Allen got set up in s2. The biggest potential giveaway for me this episode is the fact they mentioned the Viltrumites control/rule planets and their people. The people who showed up to back up the Viltrumites never showed their faces. I think they are her people and she's been working for them since before she joined. #theories

Pablo

Didn’t even look like a side eye either think they were tryna animate her looking at the ship sensors that tech jacket caught first

crosshairs shawty

According to the comics the reason why they invited tech jacket is because the armor is geldarian. Geldarian armor is already strong and whe bonded to a human they become a lot stronger and can go toe to toe with viltrumites

HIM

TLDR, but no, it's completely the same! Cecil will do anything to "keep the people safe", including endangering their lives and wasting their tax dollars at the same damn time. It's not the exact same level of decision making, it's even worse! Kiri only wanted to save people from immediate threats in exact moments. Cecil is predicting things and making his own assumptions every step of the way. Keeping Conquest Alive, Employing Sinclair, Using Mark's as Reanimen... If it's not contradictory, it's just plain negligent and stupid. He is earth's biggest threat without Invincible or Omni-man around. To say it's not even close? C'mon. You're cheesin' me kid. Lol but I'm not gonna argue, so you got that!

Michael Kaiser

TS WAS HEAT WTFFF NEED NEXT EP NOWWW

Barbietube

Bro, Peni Parker is really not built for this war. Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby type match up

Dan Cervantes

fair point. wild to imagine what 25’ looks like on the ground.

von

Who tf is we Oliver? WE ain’t kill nobody. WE ain’t fight conquest. You ain’t do shit but get saved 😂. Oliver and his overconfidence repeatedly gets him fucked up and the boy just never learns.

von

Why they do that to my son Zack? I could understand if he was a throw away character, with like 5 line of dialogue. but he literally has his own comic series. That pre dates invincible at that. 🤦🏿‍♂️

Aaron williams

Actually I disagree how better then to camouflage by being the one to give true information it builds trust and gives you the benefit of the doubt. I’m not saying she is factually I’m just saying logically this isn’t a good reason to exclude her

Aaron williams

This episode was fire had me standing up bravo

von

Why’d they Half Nolan’s age? He’s like roughly 2,500. Great voice work during that convo with Debbie tho.

Aaron williams

I’ve seenive seen some gory shit but never have I ever seen someone someone disembowled while choking someone to death that was hard to watch genuinely

von

Mark beats conquest through strength of will and just pure Feral rage. Not strength of body, and I don’t know how a lot of people miss that. He didn’t care if he died in the process and we know he has a pretty much unbreakable spirit.

Shelly P

ON BRO😂😂😂

Mitch

I swear if the next episode doesn't pick up right where we left off I'm gonna be heated

Blood Wizard

Facts there’s like literally no difference on how they both grew up vegeta changed because he got belt to ass and then whipped by bulma and Nolan just got whipped by his favorite pet but they were both destroying planets beforehand

Frizen

To be fair Vegeta was basically a slave to Frieza, he was an opp from the beginning and the damage he did was undone. A bit different from Nolan who was fully bought in and high ranking, wronged his own family, offspring and people he had been with for 20+ years and there being no way to undo the people he killed.

Godrick

I can see that, but she SOLOD a Mark Variant last season. Shes already at that level. And putting the power nerfs aside, can we talk about the character/suit design literally looking like somebody just took all of the sauce out of the comics design?

Robert Smith

The Walking Dread can absorb energy. Her blasts weren't doing anything because he was basically eating her energy until she gave him more than he can handle

Gravity

i think the mole is Optimums Prime. Let me explain., Hes not a mole. He is feeding information to the bad guys to help speed things up. weaken mark and nolan or kill them before they get back,, start the war early so his last resort is too use the scourge virus. he wants to release it. he wants to kill everyone one of his kind and theyre offspring

PJ Rivera

Kirkman said its because Zack looks too much like mark and that this arc needs more women. Plus oliver needs more character building so they can use femtech as a love interest

cobra22

this why i need a mortal kombat anime show dedicated to the actual content in the games , it would be exactly on this same timing 😭

EDHPlayer

He recovered because he still had his heart and brain intact. Had he been left alone, he would have died, but instead Cecil patched him up in the idiotic attempt to interrogate him. Conquest’s survival was thanks to Cecil, but he was still alive when Mark passed out. It becomes very clear throughout the series that Viltrumites literally will survive almost anything if they are allowed to recover, and recovery only happens if the heart and brain aren’t damaged. Think back to s2; Lucen survived despite having his intestines spills out and impaled with a stalagmite (stalactite? Been a while) because his heart was still beating and his brain was still working. Viltrumites can take a shit ton of punishment.

Balenseeks

Only reason Tech Jacket here is because she took out 1 of the evil Marks but Im curious how she did it tbh

King of New York

I hear you. I was talking more in terms of how both characters act overall. You're right that they both make tough decisions to save the most people, but I think the difference in their behaviour and reasoning is important. Cecil is simply content with not being the hero if it means the world is better off, whereas Kiritsugu has a deeper-rooted problem of needing to do everything he can to save the most people. He's willing to throw every single thing in his life away for that. I do still disagree about Cecil though. What has Cecil done that's not reasonable? He works for the Global Defence Agency and is in charge of protecting the world from threats. He's doing his job, and i'd say he does it the most ethically out of all the "government agent" archetypes in superhero stories like Waller and some iterations of Fury. How is spending tax dollars to save lives bad? That's probably the best use case for them. How is using Sinclair to create reanimen that save lives bad? Sinclair is stuck working for the government, he's not set free without paying for his crimes. His freedom has been taken away, and his skills that would otherwise be rotting away are being used to help the world. What's wrong in predicting threats to the planet and creating precautions for them? The alternative is being blind for every situation that arises. Doesn't sound like any defense or intelligence agency to ever exist. I just find it crazy how people will defend Omni-Man who just had a change of heart after voluntarily committing thousands of crimes and mass murder, but will condemn and make a supervillain out of a guy who has done nothing but try and protect people from threats his entire life. Like, what's the alternative? Sure let's say he didn't do anything with Sinclair. Then the Invincible variants would have killed everyone at the GDA (which we saw they were already close to doing even WITH the reanimen) and countless others. But at least Mark's ego are feelings are okay. Where's the logic there? The invincible War and first Conquest fight was the show's way of demonstrating that Cecil's POV was valid. Not necessarily fully "correct", but valid. Is it ethical to put a device in Mark's ear as a precaution? No. Would Cecil be dumb if he didn't? Yes. The Invincible variants proved that. Also want to point out lastly that the whole ear device only got activated in the first place because Mark was getting agitated and resorting to violence instead of just talking things out. There may be something else I'm missing but the Conquest thing is the only real big fuckup I think he's committed. And I just think that was done poorly.

CAM

Obviously but he's over a thousand this is a blimp in his lifespan, and how many people get beat to near death by your parents for your 18th/21st birthday and get promoted from fodder to bench warmer

lilllllllllil

Mark's got guts. I'll give him that.

lilllllllllil

Debbie: Mark take care of yourself and be careful. Mark: I will mom. Meanwhile Mark:

DIOR

these are all extremely horrible ideas btw

Daniel

Did I press Omni man’s number one fan? 😭

cobra22

she scared he might die & not make it

cobra22

yeah because he was still holding back until the end of the fight!

RZ

Brother those marks are nowhere near the level of the viltrumites she is going to fight

cobra22

this mark was more upset than mark fighting titan tho in defense

Mruker

No he wasnt 😭 he was just willing to kill himself to win, no sane person can start a fight willing to break their arm to win, thats just not in anyone, its the same reason you can't bite your own finger off right now even though you clearly have the strength to, Mark literally says "All I want is to hit something as hard as I can" at the start of the fight, once Eve "died" he was willing to die just to see Conquest go, its not hard to understand

Chimera134

Yeah I got that. Like a mini version of powerplex! I'm kind of sad that he just burned up a bit. I think it would have been DISGUSTING but amazing if he started swelling like Bane does with too much Venom/ Bane Juice. If he started bulging all over and swelling into a pulsic sac of muscles about to explode and begged Zoe to stop. That would have been crazy. But also would have taken budget...

Cam Kaneki

Conquest said: let me get em them guts and stir the cake mix real quick 👀

cobra22

she not mole she took over being the captain bc the other dude was incompetent

cobra22

also remember in the last season we seen a black viltrumite fight w his guts ripped out as well

Shots FF

and a lot of em

NullCallisto

Except Nolan just sliced him open. He wasn't ripping him apart like Conquest was 😭

Dark Danny

Mark has really gotten stronger, i remember Lucan(the black Viltrumite with the gut) did him dirty in s2, held Mark down with one finger. Now Mark is putting belt to ass with no problem

Dexter Gaba

I thought they brought Tech Jacket because she solo’d an Invincible variant?

cobra22

youre right

Paulothy

Also the Invincible Reanimen Cecil has

cobra22

i mean he did stab him w a big ass rock afterwards in his intestines 😭

Paulothy

Yeah looks like they're downscaling her for some reason, in the comic they soloed 2 Mark variants (Not at the same time) and took down one of the viltrumites during this ambush

Shots FF

Nolan thought he was just drinking with the homie not knowing he got this man at gunpoint in his mind lmao

Hanno

I know that he completely deserves it but I felt bad for Nolan seeing him all sad

Hanno

Yeah i thought him being nearly 1000 when he looks so old already didnt make sense

Tabbs

To me tech jacket seems like Iron man except if Iron man was handed and permitted to wear the suit instead of building it himself. I’m sorry but that’s my take on it so far

Tabbs

Only bad decision that I don’t agree with was the Conquest thing but other than that Cecil has been alright

Tabbs

@step Joe fr dawg like does she even know how she did that? Girl was running and shooting mini blasters all fight

Tabbs

Allen still seems hella useless, they couldn’t have zenkai boosted him a few more times before leaving?

Ambridge

MK would like to have a word with you

Aaron williams

Even mortal kombat seemed easy for me I think it’s the desperation between them that makes it so graphic mortal kombat is very whimsical. It’s grotesque but it’s unserious af not really a good example tbh.

Bob

bro fr he should have been able to EASILY take a viltrumite in a 1vs1

Imari

I personally wouldn’t want to be marks enemy lol

Alexis Sullivan

It's called Snowpiercer. There's a movie then a few years later there was a show that ran for a few seasons

Ryebread

Trying to choke out the alien that can hold his breath for weeks in space was not an efficient way to go about that fight lol

Squishy Bear

They have been adapting this story very quickly and adding in some other scenes as well, this concept of “the mole” was not given a lot of attention in the comics cause it took a 4 year period between hearing about it to finding out and the culprit was someone nobody would have thought. Since they have changed it ever so slightly they could in fact be trying to switch up who the mole is as a way to let comic book readers still have that anticipation of what is to come. On another note: mark smoking on the conquest pack (in 2 to 3 months when he wakes up)! It’s hilarious that conquest was talking about Nolan being a man of few words and hinting that those would be his last just to have his last words be “we can’t let your brother miss out on all the fun” and never spoke another syllable! This episode was amazing but it’s still marks slow grind up the viltrumite ladder cause thragg makes conquest look like Paul blart in comparison!

Kari

Its so funny when roshi be so confident but wrong😭😭

Arsean Wilbon

I think that dude is just genuinely an idiot. Easy misdirection

Arsean Wilbon

It’s so obvious it’s thaedus it’s crazy 😂. This dude released a virus and made a 2.0. He forsure wants to eradicate every viltrumite including mark and Nolan. He wants them gone so he can release 2.0.

broham1

Didn’t she take out two or am I misremembering?

JJ

Kirkman is a retard lmao

CEIII

from the comics i thought oliver was but that wouldn’t make sense here so i have no clue

CEIII

erm sounds a little sexist to me 🤔

lackingnames

But that makes even less sense. He's basically carried the resistance to this point. Without him Alan would be dead, Nolan would be dead, none of these people would be together fighting Viltrum

Verneuil

dont want to hear NO more Mark fraud allegations

Ziltoidia

sheera at 8:33 really got me :(

MBA

Man they be suspicious of everybody 🤣 First Paul now Telia lmao can’t even look behind you without being accused of being the mole 😭

MBA

And Tech-Jacket a problem don’t sleep on them

MiniBboy 92

Well that's just not how choking work but ok lmao

Charli

Yall gotta remember with Tech Jacket, her suit can take on Viltrumites it's just a war of attrition sort of weapon. She managed to kill one of Mark's variants by herself, but it took the full three days that the Invincible War lasted to do it. Not only that she can shrug off kill shots from Viltrumites with a minute to heal. She isn't a tank, but I think it speaks to her ability that the Viltrumites were actively dodging most of her shots when possible. We rarely ever see a bill Vilrtumite dodge when the don't need to.

Charli

She did, but it took her 3 days. IMO she is a better pick than Oliver, she only got hit once in this fight and shrugged it off.

fatJahorse

I never expected to truly grimace while watching an animated show WTF

Charli

It took her 3 days. Luckily her suit heals and Forehead Lazer goes crazy.

King Medjai

What's up with the animation this episode?

Jesus Mata

Ain’t nun wrong with it lol or is it just bc their isn’t a million pencil sketch lines in every frame so you think it suck’s lol😭

Artistikk

Doesn't matter if you can hold your breath if the blood supply to your brain is being cut off.

Conk

It does suck little bud. Debbie walking, her hand when she broke it. Can't imagine dick sucking Invinsible when talking about animation Bet you were glazing OPM s3 animation too with your clown ass

King Medjai

The decision to let Oliver come was dumb as hell lol. And they didn't waste any time showing us why. This mfs a liability.

James Small

It's not any worse than something like Young Justice. People are just comparing it to some of the highest level animation this season because Invincible is extremely popular and has more visibility, so it gets compared to things like JJK and Frieren.

James Small

I respect how this show makes violence so visceral and uncomfortable. It is kind of goofy though that they'll show dismemberment and disemboweling but god forbid you see any nudity, even some butt cheeks. Not saying we need fanservice, but if it makes sense for the scene don't shy away from it especially when you're showing Mortal Kombat fatality level gore on a semi-regular basis.

Jay M

Earth was technically Viltrumite-free when Mark was abducted for Thraxa in season 2

iJashin

@Conk Imagine making something your profile picture and you can't even spell its title correctly lmao sybau

iJashin

I honestly think they brought Lucan back this episode to show us that Viltrumites CAN survive their guts being rearranged; pause

L S

who are the heroes the suitmaker is dressing? cause they surely aint doin important shit- i also hope tech jacket gets to achieve meaningful feats not just assit but thats the way it most likely will go

Rell_TheGoat

Idk what side eye yall saw but ok😂

King97

For what?

Godrick

CEIII imma keep it 💯 with you.. you too lame for this conversation buddy. Just keep it pushin. Take your nonsense elsewhere

Godrick

Tabbs imma need you to just look up Blue Beetle bro

L S

conquest highkey trash, bro didn't win one fight we saw

Godrick

Lets just forget the fact that "hella useless" Allen helped kill a viltrumite and solo saved Omni Man and Battle Beast last season. You seriously asking why Allen didn't have them beat him within a inch from death, and then wait weeks or months for him to recover before leaving? They gave mark 1 day to prepare.

Son Shoe

Dont think I've seen yall quiet for as long as Sandra Oh's scene lol

KingDom

Big difference there is they have dragonballs to wish people back to life. Not a good comparison

Godrick

Nah watch the scene again. Not only did she give Tech Jacket side eye when she said her suit picked something up on the scanner, one of the crew mates on the ship gave Telia a straight up glare after she told everybody the ship scanners hadn't been picking anything up

King97

Between that last fight and now he closed the gap some more. He wasn't even able to hold him down most the last fight

Godrick

Tbf they 1v1d an Invincible Variant last season, and killed him

Rell_TheGoat

But is the ship not damaged to begin with😂so it’s not unlikely for her suit to pick sum up first

Godrick

Besides Battle Beast, name 1 non viltrumite character who's actually killed a full blooded viltrumite.

Godrick

I can almost guarantee he liked his own comment too

King97

Thats just america. It's like in Japan where where the view flips. Sexual content gets more leeway in a sense but extreme violence is censored. Like MK is heavily censored or even banned in Japan I believe

King97

Honestly I'm more irritated that they made Tech Jacket a kid and not an adult. Kid of messes with the tone when you keep recruiting goofy children

Imari

In the comics it was 2 but in the show it was only 1

Alrick Campbell

Omni man really isn’t human. Him pulling up on Debbie and Art was so emotionally irresponsible, it’s crazy 💀

Cam Kaneki

Now I wanna know did mark get Lupas respect after that last fight 😂 he roasted the shit out of him the first conquest fight bruh got his guts pulled out for the dub 🔥

Devin Eleven

I like the change. Feel like they MIGHT have done this to setup love interest to Oliver??? I could be waaay off base with that guess though. Similar to what they did with Shrinking Rae (changing her gender to be a love interest to Rex) I don't think it messes with the tone of this show at all. Its still currently brutal when it needs to be. So far there's already been so many 'kids' in the story and I havn't felt a tone issue: Power Plex's kid and niece, Business Baby, Titans daughter, Teen Team, Oliver's initial growth and so many other examples of young people elevated various situations in the story. Im not worried at all about Tech Jacket in the show rn.

Devin Eleven

i dont know....If I had a nickel for every time Allen's been snuck up on by several Viltrumites when shes around, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but still strange......

wrld

Not sure u understand what choking someone actually does

CAM

Thousand of years of super brainwashing since birth vs a blip, 20 years of learning emotions and “reading the room” he lack emotional intelligence but he's getting there

RYC

If Solo'ing Space Negan is that hard, Imagine Thragg as a problem? F**k me. im good, id rather jump in a black hole

CAM

I mean they said multiple time they can survive almost anything, even with their skulls split open, you have to stab their heart or completely cut off brain function

CAM

Hey just trust…and maybe don't rush to see what happens next lol enjoy this victory…

CAM

Yeah but this is more intimate and and not a .7 second show of a doll model of the human body, you can hear marks guts being pulled and ripped out, his kidney, and stomach falling out

DJ Muldrow

Mark has survived getting impaled before no? That’s why he’s-

King97

The love interest would be weird cause Oliver ages quickly. Unless they are going to make her grow up quick too. I'm interested o see where they make changes

N

Mark needs to kill cecil omgggg

Wizard

The main character is a teen still. War doesn’t care about age I hope you know that.

Wizard

Tbf he’s old as hell

OceanPhantom

Ok so they ate with this even knowing how the fight would go that was f crazy to watch I believe Debby forgave him in the og comic so this was a nice change but don’t sue me if I’m wrong just hard to not see spoilers on twitter and YouTube

King97

Here we go with the extra ass comment

Jaylen Otero

12:52 Sheera’s PTSD from what Omniman did to that Fighter Pilot 😂😂

Bobby Johnson

A small parallel i noticed but oliver is moving like season 1 mark and mark right now is moving like how omni man was taking care of business in season 1. Ofc there's a lot of differences but I just like the fact that mark is always there to Oliver's rescue

Rhett Sumner

No my friend, at this point in the story Debbie does not forgive Nolan before the war. She actually has a similar reaction, just shorter bc she wasn’t a very developed character atp of the story. She does eventually forgive him at a later point in the story, as i assume show Debbie will as well as it ties into the major themes of the whole story later along with other major events. So it wasn’t a change so to speak, just a needed expansion on the reunion/confrontation between the two

Rhett Sumner

I mean tech jacket in the comics also kinda sucks in this fight, they all got jumped lol. He has time to prepare/level up while mark recovers in the comics, and she likely will do the same in the show

Rhett Sumner

Good guess ngl, but nah haha

Rhett Sumner

Ur thinking about after this mole is discovered and there is a certain long time skip haha

Rhett Sumner

Lmfaooo all these confident wrong ass people is hilarious 😂😂😂😂

destiny

She definitely gave a side eye lol but she might not be the mole

destiny

Literally

destiny

Oliver ass should’ve stayed the fuck home! We don’t got time to keep assisting while we got 3 viltrumites trying to kill us lol. I want everybody to stop shitting on Mark after this cause he was putting BTA

destiny

yea that scene was so sad

destiny

I mean we know mark ain’t dying

destiny

The next three episodes all take place in space so I’m sure it will.

destiny

Literally lolllll😭😭😭😭cause shits abt to get crazy

Lamaree Jackson

Sandra Oh was back in her “somebody sedate me!!!” bag in this episode iykyk

Krype

Day 2 with the original suit and he’s already looking exactly like he did after Nolan cooked him 😭

CodyG24

"You did have guts. I've never been so wrong in my whole life" 🤣

siege enjoyer

powerplex , rex, eve was MVP against conquest

Koji

except he is on demon timing now and took down conquest as well😭 this mf went from softie to brutal (blue suit) to a full fledged fighter now

Koji

and tech jacket

joe denis

tech jacket beat viltrumite mark but couldnt do anything now was a bit dissapointing she shouldve been at least able to defend herself and not just get trash around

ShaquanVirse

WE NEVER WANNA HEAR MARK DISRESPECT AGAIN Lol

Koji

oh naw season 4 mark officially got it now. he could have been had it since season 2 with the right mindset, season 1 is fair tho, he was bullied there 😭

Fini Reus

After a bad last episode, they followed up with one of the greatest episodes of the entire Invincible series. I feel like I'm getting whiplashed. GOATed series nonetheless, but KIRKMAN STOP RUSHING SEASONS, ONCE PER YEAR?! I know you can do way better, I saw an Invincible animation on YouTube that touched up on the fight scenes and boy, please give this series that kind of quality because this story deserves it. Also that was a fantastic adaptation to the comics, every single extra scene and interaction was gold. Storytelling continues to be peak.

Sami Ace

Bro I was eating while watching this...big mistake

DatBoi Lol

Yo that Nolan and Debbie scene may have been the longest stretch of silence I've seen from you guys lol.

Tae

Bro Mark is raw

Limes_taste_good

Tbf she didn't really get injured other than her suit which self repaired. The strongest of viltrumites are whats left, viltrumite mark had yet to go on any missions or have any real training. Vastly different power levels. I would expect her to somewhat rapidly identify how they fight.

Quincy

Remember he aged when he went destroy the flaxxans in season 1

Conk

What? Are you fucking retarded? You think I cant spell Conquest? Conk is supposed to be a non serious name you STUPID MOTHERFUCKER holy shit there's no way I had to actually explain that to you.

Rebel_R300

Nolan apologizing to Debbie and letting Paul live is a major character growth for him big time. Omni-man needs to get his hero fit back before facing the Viltrumite Army.

Conk

Hey Godrick, dumbass. Look at my comment now, now I liked it. 2 likes. You people are genuinely some of the dumbest fucks I have ever encountered.

Josh

The mark variants were very strong besides like 4 plus Lucian and the other dude are like top ten viltrumites

lackingnames

My guy watching a show filled with 12-18 year old characters other than the villains and complaining there's no nudity. Interesting.

Mo3

Everybody cheering mark on for killing conquest but what an inefficient way to kill someone😂

Ryebread

Right I completely forgot about that. I was just thinking about the air. That makes sense now

lackingnames

what show are you mongoloids watching that you think Allen should "easily take on a viltrumite 1v1". This is some literal watching with your eyes closed and imagining what happens-level idiocy.

chris

Thats literally what i was thinking, im like mark out of all the methods to kill someone this is the one you chose to stand on? lol

Mo3

Literally 😂it wasn’t as tough as everyone’s acting

Michael Kaiser

I hope mark slaps Cecil head off when he comes back

Denzel Bartolaba

Just a heads up “BEARReaction” has this reaction on YouTube currently

RnicJaay

That was hard af to watch Mark did his thing

Dallas

you don’t even believe ts

Offw0rlder

Yo that Viltrumite hand stab is DEADLY asf, Oliver was boutta have a bad time...Either that or the chop & its wraps

Jigga Man

If I'm Mark, Cecile takes orders from me now idgaf

Offw0rlder

OH WOAHH SHITTTTT Ok Mark!!!!

Mad4Life

Please grow a brain and realize Mark wasn't holding back in the last fight with Conquest either.

Koji

please learn to stfu before you open your mouth if all you got to say is disrespectful shit like some 12 year old edge lord

Dan Cervantes

This is a PSA on why a front choke is a terrible self defense strategy.

Arturo

I don't think he could've beaten Conquest in a fair 1 V 1. Crashing out choking him was probably his best bet besides jumping him 🤔

Paul Reyes

Nah fr, you know a scene is good when these three don’t talk over it lol

Arturo

Oliver gave me kid Gohan vibes right before the Namek Arc this episode. Now I just need him to turn up like my goat Mark! 🗣 You fight Mark and you not breathing afterwards 😤

I VisiBomb I

they might as well throw conquest into a black hole at this point.

I VisiBomb I

thats why you have a cool space blicky that can deal with that.

Alec

Cam

Mark and Conquest are the true definition of rivals

Jeremiah Neely

Mark: "Yo Cecil. You'll never guess who I ran into out in space."

Arturo

Bulletproof wears one of his suits that nobody wanted 😅 (Mark almost wore that one in season 1) Immortal is the hero who told Omni-man about him also. Idk anyone else

Trippy ShootaTv

Mark told that u nigga “ u never gonna breathe again” that’s tough asf and plus mark cant beat him in a full out brawl so this was his only option

Jake Dodd

Let’s be honest it’s wasn’t good

Jake Dodd

I don’t think telia is the mole I think yall wrong on that seems like she really cares for Allen to me

Kyuubi16

Not going to lie, compared to the comic version, this version of tech jacket so far is disappointing with unnecessary changes, so I do hope they do the character justice later on.

Anarchy

I dunno man. Atomizing the baby out of existence is kinda crazy

Nate

He sure got his run back

Anarchy

Powerplex killed a mark variant. Not full blooded viltrumite. Same with Rex. Tech Jacket. And eve didn’t even kill conquest. None of the characters named did anything to a full blooded one.

leo

name one change they made besides her gender that’s impacting her usefulness thus far ?

Freeofgreed

Techjakcet solod a mark variant last season. That’s why they want her lol

Anarchy

Honestly the thing with conquest I can excuse. He was never informed that viltrumites can make their own leverage meaning that he could instantly go max speed and breaking out even if he literally couldn’t move at all,

Fred

When was tech jacket that useful in the first place? I think your nostalgia is inflating their impact I call this the rock Lee effect.

GameGod

This episode makes me happy because I just watched the walking dead season 7 opening a few days ago

Fred

I keep seeing content abt how all mark and eve do is fuck and talk abt superhero Shii and it made me realize Debbie and Omni man have more dates and different date locations than them

Shyam Ramraj

You can side eye all you want , no one gives a fuck

Shyam Ramraj

For some reason I didn't look away during that guts scene . Maybe since it's animated I wasn't that grossed out . Now if it was the boys which is live action I would have been grossed the fuck out

Shyam Ramraj

Yah man he is a fraud . Second strongest viltrimite my ass

Shyam Ramraj

Lol imagine next episode starts with dark blood

destiny

That shot of conquest about to give Oliver the nastiest slap was fire

destiny

She’s been in one episode lol

CJ Evans

lol that’s actually a good point it feels like we never see them go out on dates, at least compared to him and Amber

Jeremiah Neely

Don't sleep on Allen. He's the GOAT for a reason. Greatness awaits.

Jemuzu

Abortion is a terrible thing, it's pretty simple.

melloburner

yeah mark gotta beat cecils ASS when he recovers.

Styrical

I'm sure multiple people have already said it, but Tech Jacket 1v1d a mark variant during season 3. But that wasn't done easily, I think it was said that the fight lasted 24 or maybe 48 hours. So it was much more so a battle of attrition in that case.

melloburner

bro the intestines just kept coming, it felt like a magician pulling shit out a hat 😭😭

melloburner

conquest was doing oliver exactly how nolan did red rush in the first episode of season 1 bro

Dubble Tt

Sea salt is absolutely COOKED

Midas II

watch the one piece live action 2x7 they were silent locked in the whole time lol

Dubble Tt

What ppl expect? Since they been together, the two barely had two weekends in a row where they don't have to save the planet or something. Those young people are STRESSED 😂 Debbie and Nolan were veterans by the time we met them, had raised a super-powered kid and all. Meanwhile, Mark and Eve aren't even legally old enough to chill and have a glass of wine

Kablamoo101

man its just a flood of memories from reading the comic. im sweating idk if im ready for whats to come

Clinton the Bingethinker

Between Sandra Oh’s performance and Invincible & Conquest rematch, fuck. This episode was fantastic. The fucking intestines man—fucking nuts. I watched that whole part in silence.

Ayanda Mpofu

HE REALLY DID HEAR ALL THE SHIT U TALKED LAST SEASON LUPA 🤣. I'M SO PROUD OF MARK😭!

mysterioussfox

That is horrible way to go but deservedly.. It is like the office scene when Michael ran over Meredith. Pam goes "Oh Michael.." but here Oh Cecil... good intentions but the risks were too great

L.Falo

Incase you guys don't remember Tech Jacket also fought one of the evil invisibles alone in space and killed him, it was a very short clip so ya'll might have missed it... I was also asking myself why she was there until i remembered that🤣🤣 granted those invisibles were not that strong in comparison but hell, it's something🤣🤣

Kami_Psy

Tech Jacket killed one of the Marks during the Invincible war by herself (looked like she had low difficulty doing it too) so I'm pretty sure she is stronger than Oliver.

Nita - Kento's Widow

My stomach hurt bro 😭😭 Between the Debbie and Mark scenes this episode was good. I like that, despite everything Nolan has done, there's still sympathy for him, marking that he was written pretty well here, as well as Debbie. Been seeing many debates on whether or not they get back together romantically. Even though he was a menace and should've been dead, Imma miss Conquest. CHOP HIM UP PUH-LEASE!!

DjSKitZ

Mark said he wouldn’t die to Eve and almost immediately gets his intestines ripped out of him 😭. Epic ass fight though

The_Loyal_Sif

Dragon Ball treatment for Conquest. He has to be split up on different planets. Hes too much.

Blazingku

Oh cap. Maybe if mark would have choke hold conquest from behind he probably would have gotten less damage.

leo

do y’all watch the show with y’all eyes closed the season starts off with mark in robot cast due to what happened when he tried to fight conquest head up. so yes choking that nigga out was effective

Don't Care

Gunhead did kill a Mark variant in space without a scratch on her. It's not that confusing.

Corey Leach

Son this had to be intentional bc General Telia sounds way too close to genitalia lmao.

Franklin Saint

I get it But having Oliver&tech jacket brings more man power even if they ain’t the strongest they could be useful against the fodder vulturemite army and plus tech jacket saved Allen life

Kale

Still pretty funny they all three don’t remember we already been knew who the mole was 😭 and they even hinted it a shit load in the 3rd ep

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Owen Halloran

I mean... she is seeing a lot of Allens lol

GrandNubian

That scene between Debbie and Nolan brought a tear to my eye

King97

They should've had Invincible throw in some knees

valiantselene

When they reveal whats behind the title wall think its going to be Thragg flying.

Stoiky

Nolan survived the gut jab from the viltrumite dude on Thraxa, but it's crazy to survive being UNPACKED like that. Also, how did Conquest run out of breath? I thought these dudes could hold their breath for weeks or something? I guess mark caught him during an exhale?

WaterEnthusiast

just making sure yall know that choking doesn't kill you from suffocation, if it did there would be no way that you could choke a viltrumite to death sense they could hold their breath for multiple days. Choking kills you by cutting off blood flow to your brain.

WaterEnthusiast

he didn't run out of breath, his heart just couldn't pump any blood to his brain sense mark was constricting his neck

Rabadan422

Tech jackets suit is from the alien planet that viltrum deemed to powerful to wipe out themselves it’s strong enough that she/he in the comics and show took out 2 mark variants so is capable of taking on viltrumites somewhat

JustJulz

I think from Snowpiercer

Samuela Shannon

That's why his face turned purple, isn't it?

Don't Care

Most things are confusing to the ignorant and forgetful lol

Śtórmí X

Damm this time Glenn won against Negan

Alieno

You're the only person I seen mention that lol that freeze frame was fkin crazy

Ken

Pay attention they already explained why tech jacket is there

von

It wasn’t that long. I think the comic explains he was only there for a few months to a year. It’s been a min.

Carlos

Me in my best Kung Pow voice: "THAT'S A LOT OF GUTS!"

Fenpai

I just realized that Zoe is referencing Star War episode 5 Empire Strikes back. When Han hid the Melenium Falcon by landing on a Star Destroyer 😂

General Grevious

If you’re gonna choke someone out why would you do it while they have two hands free and are facing towards your unprotected body😂

AJ ON FIRE

Still trying to figure out what that shit is too💀

Schmitty

Right like mark had a choice of choosing the perfect angle to choke out someone probably twice as strong as him 💀 what’re u talking bout

Schmitty

Shit that’s news to me. Idk who the mole is lmao. U read the comics?

Victor

Tech Jacket is strong. If tier 1 are people who can 1vs1 against Viltrumites like Allen and Battle Beast, Tech Jacket is probably tier 1.5. Oliver is tier 2. Most of earth heroes, including the Guardians, are tier 3.

Severus Alaerth

Yeap it's Snowpiercer. There's a movie and a TV series, both different adaptations of the same novel series and trust me, roaches isn't even the worst thing in that cube

Heather

When did they say anything about impact? It's literally so obnoxious that they keep making unnecessary changes like that, you literally change a whole character by switching their gender

Chris De Kuristof

i'd dare say battle beast is 0.5, cause i'd put my money on him 9/10 against a viltrumite

Rhett Sumner

Lmfaoo no bro def has NOT read the comics if he thinks that weak ass misdirect hinting Thaddeus is the mole.. bc i assure you he is not the mole 🤣

Eugene

Nolan never received a gut jab on Thraxa tho. He did get his back broken tho fam bam

Heather

who is it

Heather

bars for the stupid

Heather

he won the last fight, eve just did some witch trickery and regenerated and gave mark the assist

RichXHim

Yeah I have a roach fetish, so I’m trying to get off on some hot roach gore.

justchattinn

that shit made my stomach hurt bruh

Stoiky

my bad, I was thinking of the Steve Harvey lookin viltrumite who got gutted on Thraxa Mark got gutted AND his spine broken before getting his inside-shoelaces untied tho. Dude should be dead af

GojosHoho

That was fucking traumatic 😭😭 Mark getting stomped out all these years was building up to this moment of showing his endurance

Joe

She did beat one of the other invincibles as well so thats probably accurate

Yimmy Yurner

That shit got un-fun real fast gng

Dougie Fresh

FUN FACT! Your intestines when laid out, are about 20-25ft long! Totally gross but not exactly inaccurate scene lmao

General Grevious

You’re downplaying Mark a bit, he definitely could have gotten that angle at some point so stop it😂😂

Cole hauser

Also that enemy Tech Jacket fought at the start is called The Walking Dread. You could probably guess what his name is supposed to reference.

HiiiPOWERseries

Mark was literally on fuck you, let's die timing today

Kale

It’s one of the weird green/blue alien guys that like guard or are secretaries to thadeus, they flat out show dude communicating with some viltrumite (I think kreig) during last season

girlygirl9983

Roshi’s comments 40:18. ❝Oh my God he threw him VERY HARD❞💀 
42:29 ❝Ah! Alright I’m letting go❞🙃 And the ❝spit on him❞ comment 🤣🤣 Lol of course Sheera was right Mark, Nolan & Oliver just all worried about each others safety

Comfortable Gaming

I read the comic too and can't really think of anything they changed that really impacts the overall story. Unless Tech Jacket had side comics you're referencing, I legit can't remember much about Tech Jacket in the main Invincible comic besides some obvious events. Tech Jacket wasn't really a prominent character.

Balenseeks

"I hate you nigga lets die"

RonaldoVC

Mad nobody decided to ask omni man where the flaxan planet is, or ask him to go get monster girl and robot

Kyuubi16

Tech Jacket has his own series. So most of his stuff won't be shown here and because of certain obvious changes the main stuff from his later run would be completely changed/altered. Also so far nothing we've shown so far matches what Tech Jacket actually is capable of. The tankiness of the armor against opponents like Viltrumites is accurate but I really can't mention to much more without spoiling.

Mr. Toxicc

Man mark got lucky conquest didn't get to his heart.

Paulothy

Although in the comic they make it clear Conquest's lungs are emptied when Mark grabs him. He speculates to his face as he's choking him on whether the impact winded him or he exhaled when he entered the atmosphere and got caught before he could inhale

WaterEnthusiast

Yeah, I don't think these writers are thinking alot about realism in the first place XD. Another point being that the planet they are on some how has oxygen when it seems to be a complete desert.

Leo Moreno

we literally have deserts on earth with oxygen. So why is a desert on another planet having oxygen supposedly a stretch?

WaterEnthusiast

Please don't tell me that you don't know the difference between a planet that is 70% water with multiple forms of plant life to create oxygen and just a few deserts vs a planet that seems to be 100% desert with no visble forms of plant life...

ShaquanVirse

Your intestines are 25-30 feet Sheera lol

The Gaming Gospel

Its in a different dimension all together, that's why there is such an emphasis on their time stream being faster hence why they age so fast without their devices.

SpaceBerries

that shit made me fucking light headed what the fuck

Justice

Straight Literally was DIGGING INTO HIS GUTS

Rhett Sumner

You are correct on who the mole is but they did not show him communicating with any viltrumite in the show. This scene that ur referring to only has appeared in the comic

I VisiBomb I

I don't think he choked him, I think he blocked his bloodstream to his brain. they have no issue going without air for a long time, but literally being deprived of blood in your head will do it.

tobsultraman80085

i love how when debbie hurt her hand because of punching omni man, he tries to see her injury and she refused this is basically another way to show that his actions are so irreparable that no matter how much he wants to fix it they are so broken that they would rather stay that way than to "get helped" by him

Kale

Ah fair. I only read about up to thraggs introduction in the comics and with how much they show those slimy nasty looking aliens in the show I figured at least one or two of those must’ve been used for that scene. Especially since there was already the misdirect of them making people think Allen’s gf was the mole last season and now it’s being used by them to convince themselves it’s the gf lol

Voidking

She’s not the mole

Mr. Anubis

Tech jacket killed viltrumite mark in the invincible war

Jesus Is King 👑

And how do you think he did that….. by choking him gang😭

I VisiBomb I

he didn't prevent airflow though, which is how choking works, otherwise its not choking.

Raider

All gas no brakes episode

GrandNubian

No one has more heart and more guts than Mark Grayson

Nick Frison

No it’s still choking, it’s just a blood choke vs an air choke. Still choking.

Nick Frison

Battle beast beats every viltrumites in a straight 1v1 IMO. He would’ve beat thragg if his gf didn’t release the ragnars causing him to wound himself for his honor. The wound he gave himself was worse then the wound thrag had from the ragnars, he doesn’t have as good of healing as viltrumites, and that exact wound was the only reason thragg killed him (pulled his guts from said wound) so I think it’s safe to say he’d be 0 let alone .5

Zanni

Mark was weaker than Conquest at that time. Y'all are forgetting that Viltrumites literally get stronger the more they fight and get pushed to their limits. It’s like their bodies adapt in real time. They already grow stronger with age, but those intense, life-or-death battles? That’s what really accelerates it, like muscle growth after extreme training. So yeah… after this, Mark is 100% about to level up even more 😭🔥 It’s actually one of the scariest parts about Viltrumites. They don’t just survive battles, they come back BETTER from them. Which means every time Mark gets pushed to the edge, he’s basically getting closer to that top-tier Viltrumite level 👀

Zanni

Maybe I’m crazy, but every time they show us a Mark and Eve scene I’m just like, “aww yes… give us nothing” 💀 I actually love them both individually, but together? They’re just boring to me😭 I feel absolutely nothing during their scenes, and I lowkey feel bad about it because I feel like I should care more😂 Tbh the pregnancy plotline has actually spiced things up a little lmao

Riley Mayfield

The show didn’t show it well but in the comics conquest got the wind knocked out of him before mark started chocking him

Barbietube

Kind old man requests a plate of delicious spaghetti

Drizz

“You got no guts” -Negan

Indifferent Denji

To be honest humans also do all of that as well but on a much smaller scale but we also have adrenaline so i think that is a good theory as to why humans are so compatible with viltrumtes. Its like an off brand phone that didnt come from the same factory but for some reason is 100 times more durable. Im pretty sure that in a data book it was said that humans and viltrumites share a common ancestor and alot of us fans think humans are some lost viltrumite colony but nothing has been officially said. So mark might be the shoto todoroki of invincible

Delinda Arts

mark really ate those haymakers fr lmao any other season would laid him out.

Diablos Cafe

And you know Cecil would try and make it seem like Mark the bad guy 😂

Learning Leisure

No need to feel bad, That's just romance writing in general. It's hard to feel chemistry cause it doesn't apply to everybody subjective taste since what works for some is boring for others. It's also hard to balance even for skilled writers, since the scenes are kinda needed for "show, don't tell", so the audience doesn't feel like any crucial points involving them is out of left field or out of nowhere. But at the same time, it also freezes the main plot and the action, which is irritating to those who want see the main plot to progress. It's also what causes "shippers" exist, since people see chemistry between characters that a show/story hasn't written for.

Fred

They can always fly away to a location post battle or at least have a scene of them being pulled away from a date for work but literally zero dates or romantic endeavors is just bad writing for any romantic relationship

Raymond Terry

No way of knowing the mole was one of the control center guys without reading the comics.

AbstractDread

I like gore but goddamn, I never want to see something like that again.

john segun doe

I love that exchange between Nolan and Mark's Mom. She gave it to him good. That shit was soooooo REAL

Arz.09

all things considered doesnt seem to be able to do shit against these viltumites though

Arz.09

theres a tiktok where someone puts that "u diggin in me" sound behind this invincible fans r wild

#1 Anime Glazer

By far one of the most it not the most gruesome invincible fight 😭 p.s I’m the 1500 like ❤️

WackySwacky

Literally Saiyan Zenkai boost from Dragon Ball.

Kyle

Excellent reactions from pretty much all the characters. Debbie and Art taking Nolan to task, Mark defending Oliver's choice to come and help. Really feels like Tech Jacket and Oliver are underpowered for what's ahead, but hey, they survived this fight! 'Coalition of Planets formally declares war on 49 people! More for you at 7, Central Delnus time!'

Landez97

Sandra Oh needs awards for this episode. Debbie is probably my favorite character

Ukaede

Lupa sounds like he's hyperventilating himself when he's "light-headed", that's kinda ironic LMAO

Adrian Locke

“like I helped with conquest” Oliver, Conquest turned you into a pickleball & used his hand as a racquet lil homie 😭😭😭😭😭😭

Adrian Locke

Cecil thanking God Conquest ain’t mention his name nigga got a couple weeks to figure out a lie 😭😭

BigTasty

Lupa has never had a fight before 🤣

Carrington Moore

Sandra oh is such an amazing actress even when she’s voice acting, you can feel all of the emotions. The Debbie and Omni scene was so well done.

Carrington Moore

I agree. Sandra oh really has the incredible ability to make people feel everything she’s feeling through her acting. Her serious scenes are always great in every role. I loved her since grey’s anatomy.

Mo3

How’s it effective if it cost him his life…he would’ve died if his dad and Oliver weren’t there.

ShaquanVirse

he did in the comics but they cut it