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why dont we just.....kill him?

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eric

YESSSS

Ghost

What a fucking surprise drop. I love it here

Raymond Terry

Early AM drops on the West Coast. Nice.

Jamaal Ellison

Thank you, Roshi I shall accept this gift without hesitation.

Jamaal Ellison

Roshi, just woke up today and decided to bless everyone with an early drop.

Carlos

I'm really over Matt grappling with wether he should kill Fisk or not because we ALREADY DID THIS SHIT MUCH BETTER IN SEASON 3.

Jamaal Ellison

But the thing is, Matt is a die-hard Catholic, and murder is a sin. So he is really grappling with how he should handle Fisk. Also, I don't know if you know this or not, but Matt is an asshole. He treats murder like Batman treats guns. If you use them, he thinks less of you as a person. Case in point, in the comics, he accidentally killed someone. Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist—three people who accidentally or even purposely killed before—came to his aid to make him feel better. He basically told them that he's not like them because he's not a murderer; he's better than them. This was said to his friends who cared about him and were only trying to make him feel better.

Jamaal Ellison

This Shadowland suit or a variation of it is dope. It's my favorite live-action suit so far. Matt is giving real Batman energy in it, and I hope he doesn't change it.

Carlos

Matt? Catholic? Wouldn't know it if you only watched Born Again cause for some wild reason they've severely minimized or outright stripped it from his character. Maybe I just missed some mention of it last season cause I checked out during a Heather scene or something but it's weird that it hasn't been acknowledged beyond him standing tentatively outside a church.

Jamaal Ellison

Who saw paparazzi photos for season 3, with the team coming back together, just as for Iron Fist.

Carlos

I keep hearing the next five episodes are gas, so I'm hoping they can shove my bitching and moaning back in my face, but so far I've found this season to be aggressively mediocre save for the fight scenes.

deesuschrist

But even in season 3 of the Netflix show, he heavily considered killing Fisk, and only changed his mind when a "better" option actually presented itself. But at this point, he has to know that throwing him in prison simply doesn't work, and will only cause them to repeat this song and dance in a few years at most, so Catholic or not I still feel like the repeat of the whole "I don't want to kill" is stupid in this instance

Jamaal Ellison

Well, out of the way, Fisk won't be the villain of the next season, and we know he won't be mayor because if you've seen the *Spider-Man* trailer, Sheila is the mayor now. She's giving Peter the key to the city, so he'll probably end up in jail. If you've seen photos of Charlie Cox lately, he's got a big, burly beard, and he said in an interview he had to learn how to fight in a different way, so he's probably in prison. I guess they're doing "The Devil and the Cell Block D," which is probably why the Defenders could reunite to protect the city on his behalf next season.

Carlos

That storyline would be a good excuse to get Danny in a fucking costume even if it's not his own lol, assuming it'll play out similarly

YaBoyTroy

Idk if Matt could kill Fisk atp. This man took a bullet point plank in the face and is still walking around lol.

Honored one

As a Christian myself, that technically would not be murder. Because murder is taking the life of someone innocent, not taking the life of someone who's actually killing people in cold blood

Honored one

Yeah, this season is straight up gas.

max max

guys you gotta watch Bloodhounds season 2 its like season 1 but on another level

Bakagio

im waiting for when anyone is gonna tell you matts batons are called Billy clubs

Cool The Wrathful

See now if I was a hero, I’d believe in rehabilitation and all that. However, if the villains are going wayyyy too far, then they gotta die. There’s a difference between schemers and crooks vs the Joker

A. P.

He gotta go... You gotta lock in Matt, how your shorty more gangster than you? Karen was letting em go 🔫 lol

RYC

Best live action suit is Ben Affleck comic accurate red imo. Then its this black suit this season, then the year 1 suit worn in seasons 1 and 3.

Jamaal Ellison

We complain about realism in shows, but then we're okay with comic-accurate suits, even though if a hero is fighting street crime, they're gonna get stabbed or shot. They need protection. If a cop ran into a hail of bullets, you wouldn't question why he had on a vest, right? Because he needs to protect himself. So why do people complain about the TV version suits when he's doing the exact same things?

Devin B

I find it funny they didn't have Kirsten directly say what she heard to Matt to find the place because they knew there was no way to explain it without sounding vague

Kylian

Deputy Mayor eating 2 glizzys 😾

Amire Wright

Maybe we should just get New York off the map😅✌🏾

Malik

Sheera lowkey cooking. That would be a good ass play to pretend he was taken hostage by Fisk’s task force. Also, I fear killing Fisk rn would just turn him into a martyr. Vanessa would probably use his death to get more people on their side and finish what Fisk started. The time to kill Fisk was season 3 of the OG show.

VxlxS

Still murder bro

Foxyguava

Holy fuck... charlie cox has never been that thick with muscles. The Marvel workout routine and "supplements" have made it to their TV shows.

mysterioussfox

Matt saving fisk in season 1, just shows that he is obsessed with him in a weird way like he doesn't want him to die. He almost enjoys it (i think). Same goes for fisk and his obsession with "the devil".

PJ Rivera

Charlie looking big and looking mean golly

NiyaNii

yes, it reminds be of batman and the joker, they wont kill each other becasue they actually want each other around but it pisses me off bc frank could literally end this all in an episode🤣

Sare

I love Daredevil, but I fucking hate that Matt took a bullet for Fisk. I can understand heroes not killing, but actively saving a villain so they can keep killing is awful.

Mike A

Matt and Karen were already looking into Red Hook, so they knew where to look. Kirsten just gave Matt directions where to go to find the stuff inside.

RPG Gamer

plus he knew Vanessa made the call to kill foggy not Fisk

Devin B

Yes but I'm more talking about the directions to get to the stuff because there's no way all those things would happen in sequential order again, especially the pigeons.

sol jam

Man fuck this, at this point if he just killed Fisk a long time ago than hundreds of lives would have been sparede its so annoying. Hunderds died and more will keep dying becase Matt is a lil bitch who does nothing but like lil bitch dare devil? more like dare me to be a lil bitch

Asl43n

"Does it bring Foggy back?" no but it prevents this bs.....

sincere

yo yall should check out the Darth Maul show that dropped, it’s looking like Star Wars’ equivalent of Arcane

Mxri

13:13 Jesus H Christ.. Good fucking lord lmao

Mxri

28:11 Girl.. STFU

Mxri

29:01 I do like this match tho.. GOD DAMNIT lmao! Miss. Girl obviously has a thing for men "hiding behind mask".

Mxri

31:10 🤞🏼

PolarToni

that one shot after opening the door was sick

Miranda

I believe there setting up Karen to be Electra the female D&D from the comics

Tbdovan

They locked in with the fighting this season. This is why martial arts without 100 cuts and no super powers like magic looks so good!

Marcus J.

i’ll say it if no one else is, the similarities between Fisks task force and ICE are crazy

NoT_Hawk

Dont bring up real world politics please

Domehead

It would but I think the show doesn’t do Matt’s full powers justice. His radar sense’ range is extremely wide and extremely strongly detailed down to a very minute aspect of the surroundings.

Caleb

43:35 I had to press pause with a literal jaw drop at the realization that the CIA guy is Shaggy. I didn't recognize him at all (giving away my age here but I haven't seen anything from the actor since I saw Scooby Doo 2 in theaters when I was a teen, I promise I don't live under a rock)

Devin reid

He’s not wrong open your eyes chief

HBK713🏄🏾‍♂️

Matthew Lilard is on a generational comeback villain run with FNAF Scream 7, Alex Cross and now Dare Devil lol

AmpLvX

DUDDDDEEEE I’m just realizing the fucking sword nigga was the stepdad in Hawkeye bro that’s wild

CAM

Stan lee made his heroes and comics during world war 2 as his creative distraction so yeah there's politics and real life situation in them

Himindabank

Idk why but, looking at her dream last episode, I think Vanessa is Bullseye’s birth mother. Again, Idk.🤷🏾‍♂️

GigaDirt

It doesn't matter if they are wrong or right, just don't bring real world politics into the reactions, this is no place for it.

PennyWhysTV

3:43 "Hey Now that I got a closer look at the bottom half of your face.. Arent you Matt Mur--"

Indifferent Denji

Who says we cant talk about them and they have not place here? Im pretty sure this is far from the only show that has tried to send a political message that weve discussed here. Genuinely asking because ive never heard roshi say that

RedSunCrusher!!!

Dang I'm kinda surprised they didn't say nothing about that Zorro comment lol

D Nice

Isn't that JJ in the cage @12:02

D Nice

And Joel's father in the last of us season 2 show

D Nice

Hmmm that would be cool

Jay

Already said this in the comments of 1st ep

SnailSpray

was frank not locked in those cages aswell???

Alex M

Lmao ur the goat, i said this in a previous episode this season but i didnt straight up call them out

Alex M

"Killing Fisk will not bring Foggy back" Yeah but it will stop future Foggy's from dying... *Fast forward to episode finale* aaaaaaaaaaaanddd there go a number of Foggys.....

Eric Arroyo-Rocha

i'm pretty sure the last scene from last season was him escaping

Delinda Arts

take away Batman's "prep time" and plot devices, matt putting Bruce on a tshirt. no slinga ding, no bat-a-rangs, just pure hands. I do think a better match up would be Nightwing and Daredevil tbh

Krype

Everyone’s saying that you’re not in the minority buddy people been plastering that 🫩

Krype

Ehhhh that would be weird I can’t see it

Krype

Where does Heather get the idea that Muse was a vigilante did she completely forget that DD saved her??

Vitola

she might be having her head twist cuz of trauma, but i gotta say i be hating her even more thann i hate vanessa

Inroh

I'm so tired of this "if you kill your enemies, they win" shit, especially if they are currently opening fire on civilians.

Teejay

I second that because don’t get me wrong Batman is still a master martial artist like madly so but daredevil is a different breed like genuinely so

Teejay

The thing is murder is murder no matter how you slice it , you’re still taking a life but I believe certain things should be done for a better tomorrow. And honestly I don’t wanna sound like I’m defending the no killing rule but when you take a life the first time, it gets easier the second which is both good and bad. You could become someone who kills when you believe the opposition something slightly wrong or you could battle with morality of it but still kill regardless when called for, it’s a very philosophically brutal road it’s just that shows don’t portray how painful it is.

TylerMarrkabb

I wonder if they’re setting up Karen to take over The Punisher mantle after Franks streaming Movie. Which I hope y’all watch

Rob legacy 25

Bro y’all are crazy Batman would absolutely kill daredevil yall forget Batman knows hundreds of different fighting style

Krohv

And all of that wouldn't have happened if he just killed them all. The law only works if the people in charge aren't evil.

Crogadile

That would be a massive miss

Desert Penguin

"IN Long Island"???? Are you serious with that????

Asher Ealey

25:10 Higurama would've killed everybody in the room

BigAL96_

27:35 I am constantly disgusted by the lows of humanity, yet I am never surprised. What kind of people can willfully condemn an innocent man.

CJ Dennis

@Carlos They showed in first season Matt praying and mentioned that he goes in and out it from time to time. The catholic angle is till very much a part of his character we just haven't spent as much time on it compared to the Netflix seasons 🤔.

CJ Dennis

@VxlxS is it truly murder if your taking the life or someone threatening you or other people, especially if it's done out of self-defense or they're trying to take your life. Not trying to argue just asking as it is a good question to ask🤔.

CJ Dennis

What Matt mostly means is that Foggy wouldn't want Matt or Karen to go down a vengeful path where they are just taking out whoever. He would still want them to do the right thing as he tried to do as highlighted in a flashback episode this season. With that said, if the truth be told we should be more mad at the justice system for not doing more to lock up Fisk or he should have been given the death penalty a long time ago. I bring up the same with the Joker or whoever else when people love to complain about the hero not killing the villains, and that's usually because they put them in the hands of the law who really are to blame if said villains easily escape or in Fisk case easily take control all the time lol.

CJ Dennis

@Teejay but if you are taking out a legit threat for a better tomorrow, then does the word murder really apply 🤔? Not trying to argue just asking.