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Suburu wakes up at Emilia's "home" and finds himself employed there! As he tries to gather more information, mysterious things are afoot -- can he figure things out before he keeps getting murdered in the night?

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Comments

renna

I wouldn't say Subaru acts with toxic masculinity, and it's a term used just to disparage masculinity, when it isn't supposed to be toxic. From the perspective of someone from our world, and given how quickly Subaru grasped the whole isekai concept, since he obviously knows about it from his world, plus him being a gamer, it's more about innocence and naivety. Regardless of whether Betty were a boy or a girl, he would have said the exact same thing. I wouldn't trust gender and feminist "studies" (except the biological difference between men and women of course), as they are heavily ideologically driven with no real foundation, and the grievance studies affair clearly proved that they are just ideological nonsense. Yep! I completely agree that re: zero is fascinating for its mysteries. Idk if he took inspiration from Perona for Betty, but i guess? I immediately thought of her as well haha. Tho gothic lolita inspired looks with twintails and a haughty attitude are a pretty common trope.

Rabestor

I interpret Subaru saying "I'm in heaven" as him counting Emilias and imagining 3 Emilias beside him and not about Ram, maybe I'm wrong but I hope I'm right xD

sillyspartan

Beatrice didn't kill Subaru when they first met so that is why she remembers him. He goes back to bed and the save point is afterwards when he first meets Rem and Ram.

Gus N

I'd say Subaru definitely acts with some toxic masculinity, and it's definitely not just a term used to disparage masculinity. Whether it comes from the writer having internalized it himself to some extent, or it's just part of Subaru's character, I think it's understandable to interpret it as part of his character. He's 18, was a shut-in gamer NEET, and from a conservative country with highly-entrenched gender stereotypes at a point in time where people still use flip-phones.

Rabestor

I think its part him not seeing others in this world as real people but npc's. So his expectations and his actions/interactions are of a game/dating sim. I doubt he treated "real people" in "real world" like this before being isekai ed, at least not to this extend.

Szynapka

There are two comments that stood out to me in the discussion: "It is the writer who has written those traits for him so I'm more mad at the writer than I am at the character themselves." - I remember that my faith in the author wavered a bit one and only time and it was exactly at that second wake up at the mansion with Subaru being overly excited by Rem, Ram and Emilia's clothes (two of whom he just met) and commenting about it out loud. I would never get mad at a writer for writing a horny (or even explicitly misogynistic) characters and I think it would be a bit silly to do so but there is a distinct feeling I get when an author has those traits themself or expects the target audience to have them and at that one moment I wasn't quite sure. But with that single exception my overall view of Subaru's character in those episodes has been probably much better than the view of most people and that has to do with your second comment: "I do appreciate that this series is letting Subaru put forth those stereotypes and then when you actually see his character he doesn't actually act upon them" - I always saw his comments/jokes not really as being fueled by stereotypes but rather implicitly mocking them. Like, I cannot read "I'm trying to say cute girls have a duty to dress up so they please the eyes of others" as an earnest expression of outdated beliefs. Not only do I not think the character delivering that line is serious but I don't think that character expects other characters to think he's serious. Now, acting like a fool and making yourself the butt of your own jokes on every single occasion isn't great but imo it's much better than being a weirdo through and through.

Gus N

No. That is definitely a contributing factor in how he comes off overall, but I interpret all his "look an NPC!" dialogue as mostly just jokes and references for his own amusement about tropes in media he's consumed that seem similar to the situation and world he's in now. It's very clear that he doesn't *literally* believe they are NPCs and not real people, he's experienced extreme pain and death and he's doing whatever he can to make light of his situation with humor and references, he's just awkward. Most of that stuff isn't even part of the observed toxic masculinity he has. It's the comments telling Betty to smile, or Rem to dress up in cute outfits, etc. which are clearly opinions internalized through exposure to Japanese otaku subculture and the cultural gender-norms he grew up with as a whole.

renna

But what even is toxic masculinity? Bad behavior. And masculinity isn't supposed to be bad behavior, so it's just a term that exists to disparage it. What he says to Betty, he'd have said to anyone who reacted the same way toward him "smile". Here we're really talking about an innocent, naive kid who doesn't realize yet that he can get killed at any moment just for saying something that offends someone.

Gus N

No, it is not just bad behavior, it's bad behavior that society puts under the umbrella of masculinity. Masculinity itself is a social construct formed from the behavior and perceptions and expectations that society has for men. Is isn't "supposed" to be anything, but has come to include toxic behaviors under that umbrella over time. It's not disparaging masculinity as a whole, it's disparaging the toxic parts of it that have grown to live under that umbrella. Saying that bad behavior is not part of masculinity is just a no-true-scotsman fallacy.

renna

Differentiate bad behavior and toxic masculinity. Plus, you say that masculinity is a social construct of what's expected of men, so we can agree that nobody expects toxicity, right? So why call it "toxic masculinity" if, in the end, deviating from expectations means it's no longer masculinity? It's contradictory. Besides, it's not fully a social construct, femininity and masculinity are rooted in our biology. Bcs of biological differences, men and women behave differently and don't think the same way either, which is why all around the world, different cultures have always shared common ground regarding male-female relationships. Also, it's never about toxic femininity, but only toxic masculinity, so I reiterate that it's only meant to disparage men. Bad behavior is bad behavior, and a man who is toxic toward women is a misogynist, or if it's the other way around, a misandrist. And in Subaru's case, it isn't toxicity, but pure naivety from a guy from our world arriving in a new world that must seem like one of his video games. The real fallacy lies in arbitrarily slapping behavioral flaws onto the masculine label, only to then claim that you're just attacking the umbrella.

That Guy

I 100% agree with your statement of subaru's toxic masculinity traits, and this fake suave overconfident version of him vs the genuine dorky romantic version of him. I think they are probably both him, and I would say 80% of the time they are intentionally written by the author. I hope you are in it for the long haul because it is a slowburn character development for this man.

Rabestor

Him telling Betty to smile is in part because she is a "tutorial girl" and him telling Rem to dress up cute is in part because they are "twins with opposite talents and small visual differences". I'm not saying thats all of it, its a part and a small one at that. Ofc He doesnt think they are literal NPC's but its a way for him to disassociate. I still believe he would never tell any "real person" to smile or dress up cute, etc. At least thats what I would like to believe xD

Kotaro 14

I definitely agree with your interpretation on Subaru exhibiting traits of toxic masculinity. I'm also really glad it backfires on him like you mentioned. I love that the other characters don't give him the time of day when he acts like this. I'm interested in seeing your thoughts on him and writing around his character as you go along. Thank you for the reaction, have a lovely week :)

James Long

My recollections of my first time watching this episode, I definitely was annoyed with Subaru with the comments he would make here and there. I did think it was interesting how he continues to mention video game and anime tropes. Going off how I was feeling regarding the previous episodes, they felt to me like more meta commentary built into Subaru's character.

nvy_16

But masculinity isn't supposed to be toxic to begin with. Being toxic is simply being toxic. He would have said the exact same thing toward anyone who reacted to him like Beatrice did. Besides, we can't say he was being toxic, he's just too locked into his world perspective, especially as a gamer. If "toxic masculinity" was a thing, we'd use the concept of "toxic femininity" to describe relational manipulation, passive aggression, emotional blackmail, or using victim status to dominate. Yet, we label those as "manipulation" or "toxic behavior", femininity itself is never targeted.

nvy_16

I disagree, because as one of the comments said, masculinity isn't supposed to be toxic, being toxic is smth else. He would have said the exact same thing toward anyone who reacted to him like Beatrice did. Besides, he wasn't being toxic, he's just too locked into his world perspective, especially as a gamer. I agree about his overconfident/humor side ultimately hiding his nervousness. He's just trying to adapt.

nvy_16

Exactly, and his overconfidence and humor hides his nervousness; he's just trying to adapt using his gamer knowledge.

nvy_16

That episode ending is terrifying, Subaru's always in deep shit... the cliffhangers in this anime are really something, it always keeps you on the edge of your seat for the next one. That's not toxic masculinity, he would've reacted the same way toward anyone who acted that way toward him. Besides, masculinity isn't supposed to be toxic, those are different things. His overconfidence and his humor is just his way of hiding his nervousness. If toxic masculinity was a thing, we'd use the concept of toxic femininity to describe relational manipulation, passive aggression, emotional blackmail, or using victim status to dominate. Bcs women aren't just angels. Yet, we label those as "manipulation" or "toxic behavior", femininity itself is never targeted. So it's definitely a term to denigrate men.

baseballlover723

I have a couple of things I want to talk about. Don't worry, none of them are really plot related. They're mostly just real life background stuff, because media isn't created in a vacuum, and some of underlying Japanese culture things that would be commonly known for a Japanese viewer, are generally completely lost in translation when viewed from an American (or really non Japanese / eastern) perspective. Just like how I'm sure a Japanese viewer could be quite confused by the premise of Breaking Bad and the whole American healthcare being omega expensive being a pretty uniquely American thing. First off, when Rem and Ram have those dueling lines (where they say some similar to each other one after the other), that actually originates in the Light Novels as the lines taking up the same number of characters (and sharing grammatical elements). But because Japanese has kanji, which map to different vocalizations, this doesn't really transition so well to the anime (since they have different pronunciations and audial lengths). But there is mirrored structure going on under the hood. I figured that would be interesting to you. --- Also @14:23, you mentioned that Re:Zero is 6 years old. It's actually not. Season 1 originally aired in 2016 (and of course, the source material originally started in late 2012, obviously, in Japan). The Director's Cut did come out in 2019-2020, but that was mostly just a way to get people back into Re:Zero, as it was originally scheduled to roll straight into the 2nd season (unfortunately, COVID caused the 2nd season to be delayed by a cour, and end up being a split cour instead of 2 continuous cours). Some background on why I think it ended up happening like this. Basically, back then (and especially so even further back), anime was looked as business wise as an advertisement for the source material. Anime wasn't really expected to make money itself, as much as it was supposed to hook people into the content, and get them to buy the manga or merch etc, which were the real money makers at the time. This is kinda why there's a lot of anime from these earlier time periods, that tend to end on a cliffhanger or only adapt 1 season / cour. Because the goal is to convert the viewer into a reader. Also, Re:Zero wasn't actually a hit from the start. Looking back at some old animenewsnetwork.com (which I'm too lazy to find the exact one for), one of the early episodes / early season guides had Re:Zero described as a "dark horse" anime to watch out for. It was only later on in the show where it actually became a huge hit. Imo, this is the root cause of why it took 4 years to make a sequel for Re:Zero, because when it started, they were in the mindset that Re:Zero was gonna be just another one and done show, and so nothing was prepared once it actually hit it big and for instance, presumably all of the animators were committed to other projects immediately after Re:Zero finished airing. This kind of thing wasn't too uncommon back in the day. Where logistics would delay popular shows by years until everyone's schedule could line up again. Ironically, I think Attack on Titan was the show that really challenged / changed this view that anime is an advertisement for the source material. With it being a mega hit all the way until it fully completed the story. And I think especially with tech, streaming and better data analytics (I presume this is mostly driven by the more immediate feedback of streaming data), it's a lot clearer now that anime can be made for the primary business purpose of making money on its own, independent of the mixed medium effects it also has. So I think these days, production companies are a lot more aware of something potentially becoming a mega hit and being financially worthwhile to do a full adaptation for / to become a golden egg. Even if that's just looking at a popular source material and the episode 1 analytics, and keeping things open / having a tentative plan for expansion while the anime is airing. I think that's another reason why these days, it's a lot more common for new season announcements to happen at the end of the currently airing cour. --- I also want to talk about the "-tan" honorific (~@28:00). You seem familiar with the common honorifics used, so I won't really explain those too much. But I'll mention that etymologically, -tan is basically a further baby talk corruption of -chan (which IIRC (which I might not be), is itself, a corruption of -san). As such -tan is very unusual to use for not a baby and even in the real world generally (as with most things, anime speech tends to be more dramatic / exaggerated than real world Japanese). The Japanese Honorifics wiki page compares -tan to using "widdle" instead of "little" in English, which if one (pretending you were once again a teenager) would still find pretty weird and even negatively toned. All that to say, it's an unusual honorific, with a lot of undercurrent that gets dropped in the translation / culture change. Also, you mentioned being curious how the dub handled it. The dub handled it by translating it to "Meili", a nickname I cannot say I am fond of. Unfortunately, I think that's just kinda the nature of the languages, as "Lia" (which I think is a much more logical nickname) is being used by Puck, and is actually "Lia" in the Japanese, so it would be bad to conflate those together. --- @29:11, 2 things about these warm up exercises. One, they actually are common in Japan. Like, it's common for Japanese companies to have every employee go outside and do them together at the start of the work day. So it's a bona fide part of Japanese culture. Secondly, I really like how they animated it, where Emilia is noticeably lagging behind Subaru and looking at what Subaru is doing. Which clearly communicates that Emilia is simply copying what Subaru is doing, which makes complete sense for someone who has no idea how these exercises will progress. I feel like these types of things tend to be animated together (because it's easier to perfectly sync the movements). But it's a nice piece of visual storytelling. --- Regarding the Director's Cut (~52:35), yeah, there's nothing different. That's why I think it's such a stupid thing that everyone tries to poll it or whatever (or really, that people make it seem like it's a big deal). Because the vast majority of people who are arguing for the Director's Cut being worth something in it's own right are misinformed imo (since the vast majority who I've seen argue for the Director's Cut, do so under the argument that there is additional content in it). I suspect that the fact that it was specially marketed as having additional content before the Director's Cut came out is part of it. But ultimately, this was not the case (at least compared to how people originally anticipated that it would readd cut content). I don't want to get into too many details about the nature of the changes (or lack thereof), but the production differences are negligible between the two versions. I should note, one of the MAL writers actually did comb through each episode to find the minute differences between them, and it's strictly organized by episode (numbered via the Director's Cut numbering), so if you (or your mods) wanted to take a peek at the kinds of differences that are actually there, its safe for you provided you don't scroll down too far to the episodes you haven't seen. https://myanimelist.net/featured/2311/Whats_New_in_the_Re_Zero_Directors_Cut is the link if you or your mods find that useful. Tbh, I think rewatching with the original episodes is way overkill. But like Gus mentioned, I do think there is value in using the corrected FLE subs (which I suppose I should disclose, are subs that I have personally worked on) during your scrub through during the discussion. I suppose I should also note that the FLE subs use the bluray video if you're reading through that MAL link. You can make of that what you will and do with that as you please. --- @1:10:55 you mentioned the proverb thing about gods not doing anything and demons laughing that Subaru mentioned. I should note that is a real Japanese proverb. Here's an article about the story and culture behind it if you're interested: https://kiri53.com/japanese-folktales-the-origin-of-speak-of-next-year-and-the-oni-laughs-the-story-and-deep-analysis-of-the-laughing-oni/.

epicgamesbr

I agree with your comments regarding how Subaru acts badly sometimes, seemingly putting on this "The awesome handsome playboy masculine man" act and how he says a lot of weird and even uncomfortable things, rewatching Re:zero always makes me cringe a little bit during these moments, to the point i felt the urge to skip like a few seconds in the reaction out of cringe for those moments lol. But yeah ! as another commenter said, whether its from the writer themselves that thought these were "funny lines" or if its intended to make the reader feel uncomfortable, i think its fair to interpret it in-universe as a mix of Subaru both: having traits of toxic masculinity due to his life as someone who presumably spent a lot of his time immersed in animes/games(especially considering how a lot of female character relationships are/were written) & THAT being exacerbated by the fact that he on some level still feels like this world is "not as real", seen with how he calls Betty an "NPC", It was a joke but i think that it says a LOT about how he views the situation. I could even see these strange and seemingly out of character lines being from him trying to emulate the animes he watched. Either way i'm just happy the show doesn't let Subaru get entirely away with it, he at least gets judged for it or receives some sort of negative feedback

looweewoo

Ah yes, the duality of Subaru. As you put it in the first episode: “Subaru is just dumb enough.” He’s simultaneously very endearing and also incredibly frustrating. I’ve never felt more secondhand embarrassment and cringe from an anime character. I still root for the guy though. I really think he just says stuff without thinking about it. Puck said he couldn’t detect any malice or ill will and I think that’s true. As for the “front” that he puts on, keep that in your back pocket because the show will reveal more info as to why he acts like that.

nvy_16

It's used to disparage men tho, if "toxic masculinity" was a thing, we'd use the concept of "toxic femininity" to describe relational manipulation, passive aggression, emotional blackmail, or using victim status to dominate. Yet, we label those as manipulation or being toxic, femininity itself is never targeted, should be same for masculinity. And in Subaru's case, it isn't even about being toxic. Like, bro, you could be killed at any second here. His overconfidence and humor are just a cover up for his nervousness.

BeaDoeBee

While I agree with you that the way Subaru acts in this ep doesn’t exhibit toxic masculinity it’s crazy to say that the term itself “disparages masculinity”. 😭 Toxic masculinity is when you shame someone or yourself for acting in a way that isn’t traditionally masculine. Toxic masculinity doesn’t discourage masculinity itself only the act of using masculinity as an excuse to shame men for expressing their emotions or interests freely. In the case of Subaru I don’t think it’s toxic masculinity because instead of putting pressure on himself to hide his emotions or change the way he usually acts in order to appear more masculine he just has a titled view of women by expecting them to dress up in order to please others. An example of masculinity would be be staying calm in stressful situations and thinking about things logically while an example of toxic masculinity would be belittling a man for crying or depending on others because it “Isn’t how a man should act.”

BeaDoeBee

I already left a comment on another pose but I just want to reply here also. Toxic masculinity is when you shame someone or yourself for acting in a way that isn’t traditionally masculine. An example of toxic masculinity would be telling yourself or someone else that they shouldn’t be a stay at home parent because it isn’t traditionally masculine. An example of toxic femininity would be telling yourself or someone else that they need to be a stay at home parent in order to be feminine. These examples show that the term toxic masculinity/femininity don’t discourage masculinity/femininity itself just the act of boxing someone into a certain way of acting in order to truly be a man/woman. My uncle is a stay at home parent and his wife works full time as a marine but that doesn’t stop them from being masculine and feminine. You should be able to live your life however you want without people or yourself telling you that your aren’t masculine/feminine enough.

BeaDoeBee

I also just want to reiterate that masculinity and femininity are good things. Masculinity is about being a provider who is strong and logical. Femininity is about being a caretaker who is empathetic and emotional. These are all good traits. Toxic masculinity/femininity only applies to when people tell themselves or others that they can’t express certain good traits because it doesn’t fit their specific gender. A woman being a provider is good along with a man being a caretaker. Some people that express toxic masculinity/femininity put others or themselves down for having good traits just because they are traditionally held by the opposite gender.

renna

It's clearly not crazy, and that's an absolute fact when yk that in the media and popular culture, the term toxic femininity is never used, it's simply "she's toxic", and yes, they're right. But as soon as it involves a man for whatever reason (good, bad, or just not fitting their agenda), it's immediately "toxic masculinity" and that says it all. If both terms were used, ok, fine (even if that's stupid), but here it's only masculinity that's targeted. When you consider that these traits aren't supposed to be toxic, it makes no sense.

BeaDoeBee

So your argument is that becuase the term toxic femininity isn’t a popular term, toxic masculinity is sexist? I agree with you that it’s wierd that the term toxic femininity isn’t more commonly used becuase it does happen. However, your statement was that it “discourages masculinity”. I don’t think that’s true. I dont deny that there are some misandrist women who use this term to hate on men for being who they are, however, these people are using the term wrong. Again the point of the term is to call out people who discourage men from acting any way that isn’t traditionally masculine. Men should be allowed to show any positive traits no matter what gender it’s “assigned” to without being shamed. Men should be allowed to be a stay at home parent and be emotional without people telling them they aren’t manly enough. My uncle is a stay at home dad who plays dress up with his daughters and he also loves to work out and fix up motorcycles. These traits are all good and he is still a confident and masculine person! The term toxic masculinity would apply if someone told him the first two things made him too feminine and that he needed to stop them and man up. The term is just called toxic masculinity becuase it’s used when people use masculinity to box men into a certain way of acting. I agree that toxic femininity should become a more popular term but just becuase it isn’t doesn’t mean toxic masculinity a bad term.

BeaDoeBee

“- toxic femininity to describe relational manipulation, passive aggression, emotional blackmail, or using victim status to dominate”. Toxic femininity/masculinity isn’t the act of being toxic itself. It’s the act of shaming yourself or others for exhibiting good traits just because they are associated with the opposite gender. An example of toxic femininity would be a women telling herself or someone else that they shouldn’t be the provider of the household because it isn’t feminine enough! “Toxic femininity” uses the word “femininity” because it’s a term describing the use of femininity as an excuse to shame women for having more masculine traits, professions, or social standings! It’s the same with toxic masculinity but in reverse! Let me reiterate that these terms don’t describe toxic behavior itself it just describes a certain kind of toxic behavior where a person uses gender norms in order to impose or shame people for acting in a way that is most commonly used by the opposite gender from them.

renna

If a term is heavily and constantly used to guilt trip men and pathologize (classic) masculine traits, then the term itself has become counterproductive and even toxic. The way it's used is completely stupid. And "toxic femininity" is never used, it’s not even just rare but no man uses it, not even among ourselves. If a woman who will cry just to play the victim when she's not, we're not going to say she's exhibiting toxic femininity but simply that she's a manipulator. That ideal definition might just be your view, but in reality it's not (only) used that way, this term only exists to disparage masculinity. I've seen it used countless times for every reason from A to Z, to the point of painting men as a inherently threatening gender. So yeah, if "toxic femininity" were used just as much, i wouldn't complain, even if i wouldn't describe someone's toxicity that way. But I appreciate your comment, have a nice day!

BeaDoeBee

I understand if you don’t want to comment back but you just don’t understand what toxic femininity/masculinity is. The term doesn’t mean toxic traits in general. It’s the act of using gender roles as an excuse to shame people and tell them they are less of a women/man. If a woman lies and plays a victim or a man raises his voice and makes threatening gestures that is just toxic behavior. However, If a woman told a man that he shouldn’t be into fashion because it’ll make him less of a man that would be toxic masculinity. Both women and men can display toxic masculinity. If your up to it I was also wondering if you could give me examples of the term “toxic masculinity” being used in a way to guilt trip men or demonize masculine traits! I might just not have come across examples of it on my own because I’m a woman so I’m not quite sure where it’s coming from. I would love it if you gave me a way to understand your point of view. “-every reason from A-Z” doesn’t really help me understand your argument. 😅Especially because your whole point relies of the basis that the term is used to shame masculinity in general. I just don’t have any examples to go off of… And the argument that women pointing out toxic masculinity is bad because men don’t point out toxic femininity is odd. Shouldn’t the argument just be that people should point out toxic femininity more instead of getting rid of the terms all together. I think I’ll just chalk it up to you not understanding what the terms really mean because you have experienced people using them wrong.

renna

It's not that i don't understand, you're just using the theoretical definitions, and i'm not interested in that bcs that's not how the term is used, i’m talking about its real world application and impact. Competitive spirit and ambition in boys, in school and sports environments, basic masculine traits like competitiveness, play fighting among young boys, or assertiveness are increasingly labeled as "toxic masculinity" instead of just natural energy that needs to be channeled properly. Same for stoicism and emotional self-control, when a man chooses to process his pain silently, stay calm in a crisis, or handle his problems without breaking down, media and pop psychology articles regularly frame this stoicism as "toxic masculinity" (e.g, "how toxic masculinity prevents men from crying"), completely ignoring that emotional restraint is often a conscious choice of strength, self control, and protecting others =/= emotionless). The provider/protector role also, wanting to provide for your family or protect your loved ones is a traditional masculine desire. Yet, it is alsp criticized as "patriarchal control" under the umbrella of masculinity. Search for mainstream articles with titles like with toxic masculinity in it. Basic workplace confidence, taking charge, or speaking with authority are routinely pathologized under that label. As for your point about women pointing out toxic masculinity, you misunderstood my position, men don't use "toxic femininity" not bcs we're slacking, but bcs they don't feel the need to weaponize that, if a woman for them is toxic, she's a manipulator or smth else, that's it. Men are simple, there is smth bad? Then bye, you're toxic. That's all. It's easy to say ppl are just using the term wrongly, but when a term is consistently used wrongly by academia, media, and pop culture, it's bcs there's a desire to criminalize men. The term itself has become a problem. We don't need gendered labels to teach ppl how to be decent human beings. But if you don't want to see that and prefer to use the theoritical definition that's just on paper, then the debate is pointless

nvy_16

If men are the only ones getting villainized, that definition is just hot air when it plays out completely differently irl, always about toxic masculinity and almost never femininity. You don't need to repeat yourself. Ik very well the concept of toxic masculinity, but i especially know why it's the one mostly used.

RegulusCorneas

Why are you so hung up on that term and its usage? Romania used the term correctly in the video to describe a major flaw evident from Subaru’s behavior, and it fits very well with the definition people were trying to give you. Where does this whole “villainized” thing come from?? It feels like you are arguing against an abstract group of people with no connection to the actual topic at hand.

L Freya

I need a show where it's just Ram running a business can I have that? She channels the best of Simon Cowell / Gordon Ramsey and would be perfect for so many management / judging jobs! The blunt humor and dry delivery is just the best! I agree Subaru is cringe at times (or maybe most times) and has a tendency to try to put on an appearance in front of others, he's very self-conscious and not in a good way. Thanks for the reaction and discussion! I'd go on more, but looks like keeping it brief won't be a bad thing today! :)

romaniablack

Ahhh, that would make more sense! I didn't understand why he counted three Emilias in that moment, so I was confused! Thank you for clarifying and the comment!

romaniablack

Yeahhh, I wouldn’t be so hard on the show for it, if I haven’t literally watched men act gross and creepy with women (myself included) like that. I know it can happen from women to men, too, and if Suburu was a woman, I’d call him out the same way. I think GusN has a great answer to that comment in this comment section, though! I do appreciate Suburu as a character, though, in how he TRULY is and not how he’s maybe influenced in the projection of himself to fit a norm. He’s definitely fun to discuss, especially as a young protagonist. Thanks for the comment!

romaniablack

Thanks for the comment - I do think that Suburu is capable of way more than the parts of his fake suave persona is -- GusN has a great note about this in the comment section as well -- I definitely want to trust the author, but since I'm new to this character and series, I think it's important to call it out and not just go "tee hee what a silly guy," especially when there are real world consequences to folks that think that action is "okay," especially when you start a series and DON'T know about this character and where he will end up.

romaniablack

I am very glad that he has a “bad result” when he tries to act not like himself but in this faux suave manner that’s a little obnoxious; I can’t wait to see where his character goes to from here – thank you for the comment and have a great weekend as well!

romaniablack

Oh yeah, I think GusN definitely hit the nail on the head with why he is the way he is here, but while he is most certainly CRINGY at parts of this episode, I am glad that we get to see his overall good side when he is genuinely himself! Thank you for the comment!

romaniablack

I am glad that we can see beneath the cringy surface of Subaru’s faux macho persona that he has a much better character underneath – and those layers are much more fun to talk about! I agree, I think that you and GusN explained this the best as to what I meant so far! You would think having felt DYING in this world multiple times so far, that’d cement that reality to him, but I get it. But I agree, the show doesn’t let him get away with it, and I’m glad! Thanks so much for your comment!

romaniablack

Honestly, if this show pivoted and gave us a Simon Cowell/Gordon Ramsey Great British Baking Show spinoff...I wouldn't be mad! XD The blunt and dry humor works so well for me in this show! And yes, Subaru can be cringy, but I appreciate him most when he's just himself! Thank you for the comment and kind words!! And hahah, people had LOTS to say this week! :D

romaniablack

Thank you so much for the comment and kind words! I appreciate you gushing for this episode! And yes, context is always welcome since I’m not Japanese! That’s really cool about Rem and Ram’s conversation and how it’s more understandable if you know the context with the language. Also cool to note about “tan” and the deal with it in Japanese. #themoreyouknow Meili is….a choice but I like Lia as well. Thanks for the content clarification with the release date! COVID really messed so much up, didn’t it? When you were talking about the time between seasons, I actually did think of AOT, so I’m glad you brought it up here! I thought the warm up exercises were so cute and great visual storytelling! That is wild that there’s a MAL page of just the little differences; I do think that it will be helpful to scroll through the episodes that are OG for the discussions! Thank you for noting that, though! And thank you for the note on the Japanese proverb with the laughing demons! I appreciate it!

nvy_16

'Cause it's a term thrown around for every imaginable reason the second a guy shows a masculine trait. Meanwhile, toxic femininity is never used, so you immediately get the reason behind it. How was the term even used correctly here? Subaru would have reacted the exact same way even if a guy was talking trash to him. It wasn't toxicity he was expressing, it was more of a naive move with a touch of recklessness, considering everything he's survived.

looweewoo

Since I’ve been watching your 86 reactions, I was reminded of something when you brought up garter belts. You read at least the first volume if I recall, right? In the afterword, Asato writes about how much she loves them, and added scenes about the belts back into the book after the competition. I thought it was a funny thing to focus on. Obviously they are an essential part of the San Magnolia military uniform and totally practical on the battlefield. Clearly they are essential in medieval fantasy settings as well. :)

romaniablack

That is a fair point -- I am used to the sexualization in the 20th century with them, but there is a prior practicality to them that is worthy to note, so I'm glad you pointed that out. Not sureeeeee if Emilia's outfit is realllly having them for military practicality ;) But I'm glad you put that out there! Thank you for that and the comment!

looweewoo

Actually I was being sarcastic with that last part, haha maybe that didn't come across. Is there a prior practicality to them? I haven't studied up on the history of garter belts. Thinking about it, I suppose they were useful for staying warm in times before enough social progress had been made for women to wear pants. I wonder if there's a correlation with the expansion of fashion, and women's rights and sufferage movements. I guess I'm going off topic from re zero but it's an interesting discussion. *Edit* After doing some research, it seems they are related, sort of. Early sufferage reformists called "bloomers" tried wearing loose trousers underneath skirts, but faced heavy backlash, and stopped so as to not hurt the objective of gaining voting rights. It wasn't until later, in the 60s - 70s during the liberation movement, that the freedom to wear pants freely was won. Fascinating.

romaniablack

Ahhhh, that makes sense with the sarcasm, but glad to get some history up in here with the garter belts - thanks on that! :D

Mimi

"Balse" is such a weird, odd translation of Ram's "Barusu" nickname. I can never not cringe everytime I see it. It was just the breaktime that got it wrong though, in this case. There's another translation similar, that turns "Beako" into "Little Bea" for some reason. Many such cases in Re:Zero though, unfortunately.

romaniablack

There are some "odd" translations, from what you all are telling me -- the "Beako" translation is also odd -- but it's okay! I'll probably tilt my head in confusion in the moment with some of them, but I get that it's a translation issue; at least it doesn't take from the good of the series! Thank you for the comment!