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16_86 (Patreon)

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2021-10-27 03:40:17
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2026-06
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Where's the lie though?

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Dylan

Kinda confused as to what's happening, is Duane summoning a hand to slap him, or is it just a continuation of action? Also I love how the mask goes back on, get em' Duane.

acloudwithfeet

Considering what Duane got banished for, you'd think he would catch on by now that his superiors are not good people. Guess that's what your patriotism gets you (or does he just hate Crese?).

Fitzy

Not a lie, but I get the sense he's also trying to distance himself from the thing his brother's become, and it's a bit easier to take things out on the zombie than it is live Duane Adelier. So he focuses on the Duane that he's resentful of. Hopefully a good cold splash of water for Duane.

Stretch Andrews

Ashley, I mean this in the best possible way but these last few pages are KILLING me.

Kay

Wait...wait wait, I need to reread a certain scene, but it looks like Duane is finally seeing that suppressed memory. It looks like he's grasping for Mikaila as she passes into the Khert, but is stopped by Lemuel. But Duane's eyes appear to be intact...?! (Sorry if this appears twice, I think my first attempt was eaten)

T

What is worse? Hollow virtue or meaningful atrocity? I dunno, but maybe Duane's doing the right thing, even for the wrong reasons.

Duke BG

Leave to Duane to try to slap war crimes out of somebody

Rion Boom Crabhands Keon

Come on Duane, "punch another politician"! This one is tough though! But I thought "Gentle Grandvin's no schemer", so who ordered this mess? Bodie? Or do I misunderstand the Aldish military hierarchy... Either way Duane said "If we must bring harm to one innocent... intentionally kill even one innocent to keep all this intact... if we must, Lemuel, then I no longer understand what any of it means". And to Ricker he promised "Harm one civilian, and I will smear you from this life". Does that extend to your brother, Duane? So I guess it really is time to punch another politician.

Winters King

What i love the most about this, isnt the fact that this is yet more catharsis for the reader while also serving as a cold, hard icebucket to the face for Duane that maybe, just maybe he's been a gigantic ass who'se made tons, and tons of mistakes this last week(and holy hell, it really has just been about a week, this shrine arc is starting to feel like namek). All that is great, and is 100% necessary for Duane's journey and having to face the consequences of his own mistakes, but what i love the most is the contrast between Sette and Lem here. Sette, when faced with the prospect of an entire town being wiped out the face of the world, choose to make the hard choice and go to the effort of saving everyone, rather than doing what im sure Nary would have done, and just bolting. She cried when her cousin got decapitated even though she had every reason to hate him, she was in shock when she got to see the sheer brutality of the infighting of the world she claims she wants to rule firsthand. That is who she is when the chips are down. A man(or a tailed girl) can say what they want, but where they put their money when peoples lives are on the line is where their heart is. By contrast we have Lem here, who is the opposite. by his own admission, he's sick of it all, but he'll go along with it. he'll bite his tongue, and stand by as atrocities happens under his watch. He is a moral coward, who preaches "virtue" but practises cowardice and sin. And it's not even like he can make the claim "Im doing this for the greater good, so i'll make the sacrifice so no one else has to", because he knows full well, and acknowledges what kind of a man ricker is. Hell he even praises his "effectivness" as a virtue, knowing fully well that rape and death awaits those below. He sends others to do his dirty work, then excuses himself of any wrongdoing by acknowledging how bad the system he's part of is, and that this is just the way of the world, and he's not at fault at all for how it is. I love how Lem, intentionally or othervise, is a great mirror to Nary in this way. Like Lem is to duane, he is a mirror into how bad sette could become. provided she can manage to overcome he stunted growth, Sette could become just like Nary, a cruel bastard in every regard, that embodies everything bad about the "System" he's born into. It's not the frumagems fault that everyone else is guilible and should be taken advantage of, it's just the way the world works Sette, and it's us people who are honest about it, that makes it in life. It's a different system, and the details and semantics are different, but what it boils down is the same. Neither of them have the balls to take a look at their homelands, the miserable situation they are in, then shake their fists at the sun and shout "That ain't the way it should be!". Instead, they both go along with it. Both represents the worst of their respective worlds, and everything that Jivi's momma railed against, that the most dissapointing thing in the world, isnt evil, but that people will stand by and let it triumph because they don't wanna make the sacrifices that taking a stand would entail. So long as MY position is secure, everyone else can ROT. Also, it's really, really cliched, but i cant help but LOVE how Lem throws Duane's words that the best thing these girls can do is die. Kudos on that.

Colin Suess

Did...did Lem just *test bait* Duane to build confidence about the zombie's identity claim? Two quick follow-ups: 1. Is Lem referencing a particular event? Some speech Duane made, but then acted the opposite on? 2. Please tell me there's actually a tradition, any tradition (you can make one up; you're the author!), that would create a religious or philosophical Book of Duane Adlier. Religious figures often have their sermons collected and published later...Luther's students published their dinner conversations with him...None of it is new religious Revelation, but it serves a religious function. Or maybe a textbook! Maybe it's a textbook published post-humously to support his bereaved family! And the students find it preachy and difficult and call it the Goddamned Book of Duane Adlier. ...Please...

Colin Suess

Also, no one else mentioned it, but Quigley can put his shirt back on and take his sulk to Bastion's place. Those two frames of whoa intensity on Lem's face could fry an egg.

Chase

Poor Duane, so long away from Alderode he wanted it to be the country he dreamed of and held up in his mind against Cresce, only to be so suddenly reminded of reality. On a more light-hearted note, I just realized Lemuel's cloak is split into two little wingy-bits and that's fantastic.

T

Makes me wonder who ordered a strike like this. Wouldn't that be considered sacrilegious by the Aldish Gefendur and further cause division? Is it short-sightedness or a precisely calculated move? Is it reckless or extremely ambitious? Or won't it matter at all, because only Cresce will learn the news?

Allie V. Movement

I adore everything about this scene, but I especially love the use of color on this page

Gwemmie

This is rough, raw, and real. I'm not really sad this time. I love the Brothers Adelier, but right now I'm just sick of their shit--both of them. I'm a lot more sick of Lem's shit, though, and unlike Duane's I don't think it's ever going away--at least not before he becomes an irredeemable monster (maybe he already did back when he burned those POWs to death). EDIT: This comment sounds really negative, but that's just because that's how sucked in I am! Back in the real world, of course I'm loving this page a whole lot, thanks Ashley.

Sharpeslass

Lem is a deeply damaged soul.