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Buffy Saturdays! Season 5 Episode 9 First Time Reaction! (Patreon)

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2024-06-22 17:42:00
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####### EPISODE SPOILER REVIEW BELOW! APPARENTLY SOME OF YOU ARE WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME ALONG SIDE ME, SO PLEASE DON'T READ BEYOND THIS POINT UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN THE EPISODE YOURSELF! ######

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My GOODNESS, what a creepy villain of the week! The whole episode felt much like a horror movie, very well done!

FINALLY, we have a hint about what Ben is up to! I sadly snap RIGHT before it is revealed, saying when are we going to learn more about him! XD

I swear, when Dawn grabbed the coat stand, I was so proud but so terrified for her! XD

LOVED the chat Buffy had with her about people saying she is nothing, and LOVED Joyce's message at the end about protecting her. These have been some of the best written episodes of Buffy in the whole show so far, but my word they can be tough to get through.

Now I can't wait for the real villain of the session, the Giant Pineapple to be revealed!

Hope you guys are having a great weekend!

As always, if you click the video just after this post, you may need to  download it first.  This should be fixed in a couple of hours!

Comments

TheLoungingPotato

A lot of people kinda find this to be one of the weaker episodes because of the Monster of the Week. And while I agree to an extent, this episode still haunts me to this day because, starting when I was 15, I took care of my grandfather with dementia for 7 years and I feel like this episode captures that feeling so well with Joyce's non-magical side of things. The random personality shifts, the nighttime rants to nobody while laying in bed, the general confusion. This episode hits home for me I've definitely been in Buffy's position of taking care of a random chore and just being overwhelmed with it all that I had a breakdown in the middle of it. It's all too relatable to me haha While I understand that we needed a B plot with something supernatural, I genuinely think that the real horror of this episode is the realistically eerie depiction of Joyce's tumor and how it effects her and those around her

Nyssa Rawther 🍉🔻

I have never been this fast to a Veggie upload before. Thank you, insomnia LOL. I do think, at the end, Buffy wasn't just thinking what she would do without Joyce but she was also feeling the immense pressure of what she needs to do to keep Dawn safe. I always thought the little bit of silent acting there was superb. You could see the burden of it weighing her down just from her eyes. Very expressive eyes. It's a very emotional season for sure and I thoroughly enjoyed this reaction (despite the 80s horror flick creature from some other lagoon monster of the week that we got). Can't wait for the next one!

Temujin

Hey Veggie, if you want to watch some more Donald Sutherland movies please consider Kelly's Heroes and M.A.S.H. In Kelly's Heroes he plays a pre-hippie tank commander in WW2. It also stars Clint Eastwood and Telly Savalas. In M.A.S.H. he is a surgeon in an army hospital during the Korean War. Both are great movies.

VeggieGamer

Thanks so much for the comment, Ritchie. I can definitely see why this episode would be haunting to you, with your exprience of dementia. You are right, the main theme of this episode to me is Joyce's state, with the monster of the week being an extra. I actually say RIGHT at the end of the video, I wonder what people's thoughts of this villain would be, and TBH I am not surprised some don't rate it highly. I really hope you are doing better now. This season has had so many 'memory proking' moments so far, it is why I do see this as being the best written season so far.

VeggieGamer

So true Nyssa! SMG (or Sub Machine Gun, as I like to call her) is SO good at subtleties in her acting. I can definitely see what you mean about her also thinking about Dawn.

VeggieGamer

Ah I didn't know he was in M.A.S.H (I weirdly mention M.A.S.H in this episode too XD), and I have heard of Kelly's Heroes but never seen it! Sounds like a heck of a cast! Thanks for the suggestions!

TheLoungingPotato

Oh this is 100% my favorite season because of the emotion it evokes. With what we've seen so far, it feels much more mature in its themes than the previous seasons. I think that's because we see how much Buffy herself has matured over the course of 4 1/2 seasons. While she has taken on the responsibility of being the Slayer, this is the first we see her taking on a major "real world" responsibility, for lack of a better term, in depth

Jake M

"I'm not great at research" says Riley.... Wasn't he introduced as a Masters student, also working as a teachers' assistant for an extremely demanding Psychology professor? How the hell did he blag that, if he's rubbish at research?

RavenLord

The man who approached Dawn in the hospital is indeed someone you recognize. Remember the other security guard, the one who was tied up while Glory was torturing the monk? Glory started to go off on an insane rant and then stuck her hands inside that man's head and then felt better, but we saw briefly that the man was alive afterwards. That was him, and when he was tied up he said he had two daughters, hoping to have his life spared for their sake. This show loves to thread these things together, and it's awesome. So several episodes later, we see that same man being taken home to his wife and daughters because there is no more room to hold him in the psychiatric ward.

Hanneli Norrgard

I think the research line with Riley shows how disconnected the group is from him. He should be super good at research, but they just go with it. Even if he weren't a "real" TA, he had to have known stuff because he actually did TA for the classes. The entire school wouldn't have believed it if he didn't really have the credentials and the ability to believe it. We know he said it so that he could make the phone call, but they all didn't question it even a little bit. It also shows that the writer's no longer care about his character because I absolutely don't believe they thought that line through. As someone who really liked Riley before (he was a super nice guy with drive and principles ((not all all "toxic" no matter what modern society will tell you), he's completely inconsequential to me now. I do not like or dislike anywhere his character is "going" because they've so clearly given up on the character. There had to be some contract issue or something because he's 100% just filler at this point. This part of the season, is a really low point for me, so there aren't too many other comments on it.

RavenLord

Graham is the only one from the Initiative I actually liked, after Forest became a whiny, bitter jerk. Well, I liked Riley, too, but I count him more as one of Buffy's crowd than the Initiative at this point, and Season 4 Riley is a lot more likeable than Season 5 Riley so far. Graham...there's something solid and comforting about him, like you know he's going to help and not just get in the way or try to make things difficult for others. He listens and pays attention, and he always seems to be pretty nice guy, too. Genuine nice, not faux "I'm a nice guy" nice.

Gary Marshall

Both are great movies, and yes the helicopter is very reminiscent of both the film and TV versions of MASH. I've loved Donald Sutherlands acting for many a year and he pops up in some weird places. Before he was famous he guest starred in an episode of the 60's cult show The Avengers alongside an equally unknown, at the time, Charlotte Rampling and then in 1985 he stars in Kate Bush's video for her song Cloudbusting. Loving your reactions.

esme

i also don't like what riley's doing with the vamps and by standing up the scoobies for patrol, but i don't understand how we can fault him on the other stuff. he can't just "not do this now" his entire world has fallen apart in the past 2 seasons and he's got some obvious trauma and self hatred. we can't reasonably ask him not to feel his feelings and make facial expressions, and we can't reasonably ask him not to burden buffy with these issues to support what she's going through with joyce because he literally isn't burdening her with these issues. like not a single time has he made it her problem since 'out of my mind' and joyce wasn't sick yet in that episode

Denni Caid

It's completely understandable that this is a difficult arc to get through for you - season 5 is amazingly well written and packs an emotional punch, but that emotional punch isn't always easy to handle. No need to apologize, those of us who have been around a while expected this when you shared the news about your mother, knowing this arc was coming. There's a lot of season yet to come, and between this and Angel S2 I think there's some fantastic TV in your near future.

Grace S

RIP Donald Sutherland, according to ancestry.com he was apparently my 4th cousin twice removed. I've just binge-watched all of your Buffy reactions (I'm watching this for the first time too) and there is definitely a much different tone to season 5 compared to all of the others. You're right though, it's incredibly well written.

Eric Hunter

There isn't as much of a distinction between mental illness and physical illness as people tend to think. A lot of mental illness can be traced back to chemical imbalances in the brain, and brain tumors can cause aberrant behavior so it is not surprising that the Queller focused on Joyce even though the underlying cause of her "craziness" was different than Glory's victims.

Delia P

I think the Queller demon looked ridiculous and was just a supernatural filler as the episode was clearly about the tragedy and horror of illness and it’s effect on the people suffering with it and the one’s around them. That part was really well done. I liked the idea of the Queller though, I think if it was the focus and looked better it would be a very interesting story. Listening to Fear - not insanity, it’s like it’s not just that they’re crazy that draws it but their fear, because that kind of confusion and being unaware of what’s real and what’s not must be very frightening for all involved. I think the fear is why they’re always so agitated, my mother’s a paranoid schizophrenic and when when she’s having delusions she’s deathly afraid and you can’t convince her it’s not real. I like the idea that the Queller might be there to release them from being trapped in that kind of fear rather than just evil. I definitely think it could have been utilised better. I think Riley should go back to the Initiative, he clearly feels better and more useful with them. He’s turned himself in to a super pathetic loser, I don’t get why he’s still hanging around when he obviously believes he’s not needed or particularly wanted by Buffy, he doesn’t trust her word about caring for him so what is he waiting for? I also think his self respect has hit zero, to let vampires feed on him, he’s an idiot. Graham’s great, just a really good guy, I wished they’d used him more he could have been a great character.

Jordan McLaren

There's some really well-acted moments in this one, even more than usual. Sub Machine Gun says so much with her eyes in that final scene with Joyce. The image of Joyce holding Buffy saying "My sweet, brave Buffy" is burned into my memory. The scene at the kitchen sink is very visceral and relatable too. The Queller Demon is very goofy, and the way it's shot doesn't help: the angles they choose make it seem ridiculous that no-one can see it in the hospital for example. But it serves its purpose and it's unique at least. It's funny you should reference M*A*S*H*, since Donald Sutherland, Rest in Peace, acted in the 1970 film. I know him best from his role in the Hunger Games films, which he's very good in and are worth watching.

tvshrine

Season 5 is not one of my favorite seasons, I actually like season 6 more. This episode is a turd, really more like something from season 1, especially just throwing Spike in for no reason. You can skip this episode, and except for the Ben revelation, it makes no difference to the season arc.

Frederique Gillespie

Season 5 was never one of my favourite seasons precisely because it is so painful to watch from moment to moment. I can't imagine what it's like for people who connect to it more personally, but even without that personal connection, it was always very painful. Still amazingly written and acted, of course. But I'm just not someone who enjoys being made to feel pain, even when it's superbly done. Your reactions are always great, Veggie, and I can only promise that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Having said that, don't hesitate to take a pause if you need to. I'm sure all your Patreons have plenty of other things that you keep doing to keep them satisfied. At some point, we're gonna get to a topic that would be spoilerific to discuss now (and which has nothing to do with the episode you've already seen) but let's just say that it seems you might be seeing things the same way I do. Love to Woozle, Freddie

Shiby23

Ahahahahaha, a couple minutes in talking about the large blonde chick. I was thinking dang, if it was current day that'd be Charlotte Flaire, a few moments later you said You need more Flaire Willow!!!!!!

Alexis

the season is so well done it hits home tooo much sometimes we understand just remember take care of yourself , we understand, and we are here if you need us

Diego Zenhäusern

I personally found the monster in this episode really creepy😣 and the tension when it was in their house was really nerve-wracking On another note: I have to admit that I don't really understand what Riley is doing with those vampires🤔 And I have to admit that at the beginning of the scene I thought the vampire was sucking something other than blood🙈😅

Aurelius 19

I completely agree that the scenes with the demon in the Summers' house are really creepy. As for the scene with Riley and the vampire, I thought the same exact thing. Then I told myself "you have a very misplaced mind sometimes" but, reconsidering it, I think it was precisely what the director wanted us to think about (and the next episode, as you have already seen it, kind of confirms that).