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Episode 284: Falun Gong Part 2: Qigong Fever (Patreon)

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2023-04-18 13:48:52
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We take a trip to China to uncover the origins of the Falun Gong, the contradictions between superstition and science, rural ear reading, levitation, and Qigong fever.

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Luke

All this slop for me

nadia

right as i clocked in….. praise

seth

let's GOOOOOOOOO

DRS

I was waiting on this you rat bastards. Glad Rachel Jake could step away from CEOing and send this 💩out.

Michael S. Judge

I hope you discovered the identity of that little-dick white guy with the newsie cap who's in all the EPOCH TIMES commercials on Youtube

Graham Hoese

Wheres the YC interview with shen yun?

Brian Long

A Child Called It was huge in my school. Everyone was reading it. In 5th grade.

Craig Fisher

This should give primitive cultures a shot in the arm.

Sike

Yeah I read it and my sisters read it. I dont know if it started a fad but I remember a bunch of similar books being churned out around the same time

Liam Lautze

My ACTUAL birthday is May 13th AND I can fly, PLEASE don't look at my digital footprint.

Chinese with Characteristist Socialistics

Yeah the history about the qigong fad was pretty accurate, my mother used to tell me how around 1990-1997 her colleagues at her work practiced qigong but also flg until the crackdown of the latter

Karl Childers

is this part 2 of 2 or is there more coming? holding off on listening til i can binge the whole series at work

faye b

I need an episode about the Justin Bieber church what is this ????

Julia

My father in law's apartment, in South Florida is full of Asian shit along with coastal decor. He and his partner are men in the early 80s/late 70s so you're nailing it Brace.

Brendan Callahan

This will pair perfectly with a few hours of runescape

Doug Cartel

there were like 5000 qigong movements that came from the post cold war 90s culture in china, at least according to wikipedia, so it's only natural at least one of them would become a CIA front wait a minute Qi Gong Qui Gon Jinn Hmmm

brodie

Interesting grain of truth to the African nuclear reactor thing. There actually was evidence found of a naturally occurring ongoing nuclear reaction in Ghana I think. It was just a thing that happened through like a geological coincidence tho not like an actual nuclear reactor buried underground in Africa.

Lewis

Burpo

Doug Cartel

Tim and Eric should do Hongzhi's biopic

Alaina Nuvola

I've read a child called it in middle school too.

Svid

Kings in 5. You know this to be true Liz. The vibes concur.

Bobby Volcano

Shaping up to be an all-time 3-parter maybe even eclipsing Elon series, thank you

Doug Cartel

having your own dalai lama to piss off the 'real' dalai lama is classic its like when the Roman intelligence services would be like "hey check this out, we found the Messiah and he said you all have to be peaceful"

Natalie J

Please please please do an episode on A Child Called It & Dave Pelzer, that story is psychotic and I meet people who still don’t know it was a hoax!

Patrick

aun shirinko

TrueAnonPod

Yeah but the Falun Gong thing says explicitly that aliens built a real nuclear reactor underground in Gabon

brodie

Damn, big if true

Zachary White

TrueAnon presents: The Mind-Body Problem

Ben Hansen

This mini series is incredible. The gang is in peak form— stoked for the next episode!

Adam H.

Didn't Doug Levinson tell Adam Frieland that he could fly on TAFS?

Will

Who is Bernard Arnault and why am I being bombarded with articles about how rich he is?

E.J. Rollins

Dude was a band kid, omg. It all makes sense now.

Emioly

A child called it was a great book LOL

K H

Ok. Whoever got Norman Finklestein to go on Adam Friedland, Norm was much nicer to him than I wanted, but I think this might be the guy to punch him in the throat(for being homosexual). Please get Adam to interview this guy about the race heaven, the gays, and the aliens. Also what does he think about Jewish people given the star of David.

Shiv

have you seen the Hillsong doc? it’s on discovery plus

Shiv

“I saw Jesus when I half-died” 🙏🏽

Shiv

normal vibes

K H

I just realized, I'm pretty sure I knew a guy that kind of believed this. Because of the alien technology being responsible for science and China connection.

K H

Don't talk about your gross perversions here. This is not a space for gamers! You are not welcome here!

K H

Sick of all this "(channel)+" bullshit.

K H

2/3.

K H

All I'm seeing is a cumpilation set to nirvana techno remix. Also. It's gay.

K H

They really cut the shit out of Brace's interview. Every 5 words it felt like, but they got a lot of content from him. Future thought leader Brace? I'm sorry, Racial Jake.

archipelago_go

love to see an officially atheist/materialist country saying that anybody planning to reincarnate in their jurisdiction has to do the right paperwork

rutjake

classico style episode. brace check out “cocaine decor” on twitter and ig if you haven’t already, seems like it’d be up your alley.

Sampz

One of my buddies has a dolphin skull on a table. Big oddities guy.

J N

i think brace is talking about the panchen lama, not the dalai lama.

Shiv

I intend to avoid any Paltrow-style jihad. There won’t be snacks

Gabipentin

Liz basement tour when.

Gabipentin

I recently saw this movie called Eternal Spring which is about when Falun Gong took over a TV station to play their propaganda. The main story teller is a cartoon illustrator and tells parts through his drawings which is cool. I figured these guys were culty but it seems like they really were killed in droves by the state

Dan

What is up with religious cults sharing common tropes? The way that you described Falun Gong it sounds a little like Scientology, a little like Raelienism... extraterrestrials seem to be part of the template for most 20th century new religions.

K Barlas

You guys draw a jihad parallel W the suicide stuff but imo a way closer comparison is early Christianity. In the face of repression, Christians really flipped the script by welcoming repression/torture/death to the point where they sought out those things. There are records I've read of Roman governers having to try to get rid of annoying Christians who are trying to get executed, Christian churches had to make rules against deliberate martyrdom to try to discourage the practice etc.

Anon Ibid

Next yall pick a venue with actual parking

Holly

if y’all think this is messing with my daily qigong practice…

Winthrop

It was posted on TA subreddit

Nick Rybak

Same- I recall that guy write a few follow up books too

j

good shit as always although i think it would serve yall well to learn proper chinese (pinyin) pronunciation - it seems intimidating but the rules are pretty straightforward and consistent + would probably help w any future eps you do!!

Julie D

Omg please do a Child Called It ep, I was morbidly obsessed with that book as a kid!

Andrew

Shen Yun

Brendan Callahan

No I won’t have sex with you stop asking 🙅‍♂️

Dan

As soon as they said it, I believe that they are referencing the Panchen Lama.

Dan

Who said this?

Derwood

Would love to hear a Dalai Lama episode. Child Called It. Lots of opportunity here. Also don’t have to listen to us at all, do what you want. Great work

Alex Leo Swenson

did Liz go to a Church of Fun show in LA back in 2013

Julian

The Biebers medical problems are plainly from the insane experimental shot that millions of poor suckers took, not a grotesque mega church.

Jessica S

Judah Smith is the pastor associated with Justin Bieber. He has some sort of past with Hillsong, I believe, and the LA church Bieber attended, Churchome. I can’t verify the chain of custody, so to speak, is 100% accurate of where he was leading, bc there’s no Wikipedia article to summarize his existence*, it has to be pieced together from news article and folks, I don’t have it in me, lol. Now he leads a church here in the Seattle area called The City Church. I grew up in a southern baptist church, which is like ultra fire and brimstone, went to a private Christian school from K-12 - the kind that didn’t teach evolution - and attended evangelical churches as a teen/young adult (Foursquare). Thank god none of it stuck, but I lay all that out to say that even in all those circles City Church was considered cuckoo-bananas. Although I think among the evangelically inclined, that’s become more and more popular now that they’ve smeared hipster cred on it. Judah and his wife are currently being sued for alleging forcing people to donate to the church. *ok, this is a weird unrelated thing but I’ve noticed over the last, say, year or so that Wikipedia doesn’t have entries for people that I would absolutely think would have had one, or even did at one point, considering the extent of their notoriety, like Judah. I wonder if they had some change in the way they assess risk of being sued. I mean, I take Wikipedia with a HUGE pile of salt, but still. It’s weird.

Jessica S

Ok, sorry, the Smith’s changed the name from City Church to Churchome. Also, Seattle is like a second location, LA being their first, I think? Seriously, there’s not a singular place - short of bios at churches - that have their CV so it’s easy to get this wrong. Frankly, it’s bizarre to me that City Church doesn’t have a Wikipedia page, I swear I’ve seen one before, because it’s reinvented itself so many times after various “missteps”. Seriously, you should do an episode (ugh, I’m one of those people now) on Judah Smith and/or adjacent church leaders. They leave a lot of crushed souls in their wake. If there’s one thing you don’t do in those types of churches, it’s bringing up any “concerns”. People will be prayin’ for ya for DAYS, which really means tearing your life apart behind your back. It really is a cult mindset in these types of churches. There’s a Marie Claire article from 2021 that I was able to figure out some of the details, it’s quite interesting. Sorry for the long posts/confusing rabbit trails.

J.P. McD.

My step-mom was big into TM, lived in Fairfield Iowa where the Maharishi “domes” are. When she finally showed us the “hopping”/levitating it was incredibly disappointing, because it was immediately apparent even to a 6th grader that it was just sitting in lotus position and physically hopping with your legs, not “flying” like they say.

wallace c

When we're all tubgirls, no one is

Usufruct Squad

Anyone have Wayback links for the Time Magazine and Mercury News articles they mentioned?

archipelago_go

I think an ep on how weird wikipedia is would be worth doing. I’m not deep into it, but I know there’s lots of editorial pushing and shoving. (My favorite conflict is over the use of the word “pseudoscience” in articles.) I used to tell my high school students that the wikipedia article on, say, trees was likely to be pretty reliable, but they should be more cautious about controversial topics. Although even there I’d imagine there are beefing factions of tree enthusiasts at each other’s throats.

S H

It’s the distance between “I’ve seen someone fly” and “I’ve seen someone scooch hard sitting criss cross applesauce”

J.P. McD.

This made me want TM/Maharishi and a general long “New Age” series so bad

Keanu

Sick Antichrist reference

Derwood

I live pretty close to Fairfield and have been by the Maharishi domes a few times. I always thought it was just some like, rich Hindi built the domes for the hell of it. Only recently learned it’s a cult who thinks they can levitate. Saw in other comments you had personal contact with them, that’s so interesting. I’m tempted to go visit them this summer, it’s like an hour drive

Derwood

Fairfield and it’s citizens have such a weird vibe. So when I learned about this I was like, omg of COURSE. These kooks are over there fucking up the literal vibe. They are distorting the metaphysical reality, and as a result all of the Fairfield residents feel compelled to go to Best Buy and be cruel to employees.

J.P. McD.

It’s a whole thing where the “townies” would call the TM’ers “ru’s” (derivative of “guru”) and they’d have confrontations and such. Have heard similar about non-TM ashrams in India

Natalie

they must've had something else then cause that happened to 0 people i know including myself lmao

GREGORY DANIELEWSKI

That happens to me all the time. My voice has become obsolete.

The Children of Jack Acid

I was at the Tiananmen Square Protests on the very first day. I was 12 years old and was DEFINITELY on the side of the protestors. Though I was pissed that they blocked off the square so I couldn't see Gorbachev's motorcade.

Coop

I knew Chomsky would use that antichrist clip as soon as i heard “chaos reigns”. 😂