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Policy Change Announcement (Patreon)

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2023-07-22 14:04:18
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Minor change moving forward. Please watch. --PDM

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Policy Change

Comments

Baron Kimble

Love your content, will continue to support

Drago Russo

You have a booth at GenCon? What is the number? I am running 8 slots of D&D Exp tracks for BMG, but I do have 3 open slots (1 per day) and would love to see you. Let me know and we will keep supporting.

Gridlock350 Studios

I’m so glad you’re starting to do this. It’s hard for indie devs to get a foothold in this industry if they’re not already somewhat known. We’re debuting our first game at GenCon this year & it’s been a TIME to get people to sign up to try it because no one knows who we are! So thank you, hopefully you’ll hear from us soon and we can send you a really cool box to unbox if you’re interested!

Adam Preset

Because I feel PDM has integrity, and his videos are aligned with my interests, I think chances are very good that the sponsored content that shows up will be relevant to me and sensibly chosen without an unethical and hidden agenda. Good luck and carry on!

Jay, Dr Fugue

I’m certain anything you cover will be something that excites you, and most likely myself as well, so I think this is great move, which as you say is a win-win-win!

Jonathan

Thank you for the transparency, Professor! Your integrity is well demonstrated by years of your content. I trust you’ll be honest in your reviews and that you will bring us great products to look at. I recently bought Mazes after seeing your review and I e-mailed the company to let them know it was your words that got me excited to check it out. Your contributions to the indie TTRPG space are unquestionably significant and these paid reviews will hopefully balance out some of the immense effort you put into spreading the word on otherwise overlooked gems. On a personal note, your Deathbringer system and your DM advice have helped me run some of my most memorable and fun games for friends. Thanks for all you do and for keeping us in the loop.

Karl Agius

Anything that results in more DungeonCraft sounds good to me!

MrGunn

Oh woe is this day for stalwart PDM has been beguiled by the perfidious Siren’s call of the advertiser’s accursed mammon. An anguished keening is now heard across the land, for our hero has fallen into cupidity’s grasp, and soon DungeonCraft shall become, dare I say it, a lifestyle brand. Hyperbole? Why of course! Well, I cannot say I like this decision Professor, but I understand your points and do appreciate you taking the time to address this directly.

Dale Poole

Thanks for the heads up Professor! I have never regretted following your channel or becoming a Patron (wish I could afford more), even with your unreasonable obsession to speed up combat. Your advice tips and tricks have always been interesting, and entertaining! So bring on the ads! At least there is an excellent chance they will be relevant to the topic matter of your channel. Damned disappointed about the Scottish land though.....

carl hewett

Hudson Hawk RPG??? Don't toy with me. LOL! Love that film. It would be great to see that as an rpg. ;D But thanks for your update. The only constant in the universe is change. Good luck and I'm looking forward to more great content!

Glumer Games LLC

I don’t believe an anguished cry can be heard across the land. On the contrary, I believe shouts of jubilee will echo for years to come.

Brent Norton

You keep doing what you do, and I’ll keep supporting.

Bl4cklavnder

I think as long as you portray your true feelings about the product that you get paid to review there is nothing wrong with doing that. I watch and subscribe because i resonate with your rpg tastes and i doubt that will change just because you get compensated to look at different things.

Lord_Thessaly

My goal... go to Gen con for free lmao. Professional move.

Rufus Lynks

A lot of words to say you want to keep a going concern, continue to improve it in changing times, and to trust you maintain your integrity. I'm an ardent Capitalist. I will vote with my checkbook, and I'll let you know if I'm walking. In some ways, I could care less if Deathbringer has to "encourage" a few goblins to run on treadmills in the basement to keep the lights on. I think I draw the line somewhere before goblin snuff films. IRL I absolutely draw the line at "failure extortion." I'd rather you do a video and ask for cash for new camera, then one saying, "buy this or that or this show will end." To me, the independent game material offers flavor choices to our gaming menus (and recipes). Let's be honest, the lack of strenuous, even painful, competition is what has caused WoTC to falter as a license holder of the "oldest' RPG. Thank you for the ongoing insights, exploration, and commentary.

Chuck Thorin

You inspired me to buy Terror in the Streets :)

Kelsey (The Arcane Library)

I fully support this move, Professor! I’m delighted that this will allow you to more easily promote work you love. You can now take back control over the content you want to make instead of having to so heavily consider YouTube’s algorithm sorcery. There is a lot of wisdom in this decision, and I hope folks notice how this will free you up to cover more indie material and explore whatever TTRPG avenue catches your interest without fear of the financial repercussions from YouTube’s Adsense malarkey!

Mike Mihina

I love everything you do. I accept and encourage all changes. I wish I could give you more 🖤

samurguybri

Thanks for letting us know. you are a creator with integrity who treats their viewers with respect. You are very right that you must adapt. KEeeping the ads limited to things you like or are excited about is a great way to keep it more genuine and natural and as an outgrowth of what you want to do anyway: promote indie games! ALSO. THE MENTION OF A PHYSICAL COPY OF DEATHBRINGER WAS CUT OFF! Got any more details?

Nathaniel Bennett

Totally support the move. Will patrons get an ad-free feed?

Darrin

I will still support, not an issue for me. I am looking forward to the finished Deathbringer. Keep up the good work.

Firstspear

We trust the Captain to steer the ship. I support you here because I enjoy your thoughts and content. I'm not a fan of 'plots in Scotland, protein ramen, etc.' because they have nothing to do with most channel content, but it sounds like you are staying the course. Best of luck!

NemoOh

Screw Google. Let them advertisers pay you directly. If you start making weird recommendations, I will be concerned. I know you won't do that.

NemoOh

No titles? Can I be a Deathstudent?

A Name Apart

A YouTube channel has a gimmick of "5 items you can steal from XYZ game and put in your DnD game". I think you might be able to use something similar to market and get better clicks for your reviews of indie RPG games and adventures.

Jay

I will never trust or support multi-national corporations as they will always remain beholden to shareholders over the fans who purchase their products. Also, I will never support or purchase anything from a company who professes to hate me or people like me for what would be best described as immutable characteristics or having a different opinion. However, I'm all for you sponsoring all the independent creators you like. The more the better. They are the innovators who keep these games interesting. At the end of the day you need to do what you need to do in order to keep the channel alive and thriving. I believe most subscribers here get that. So as long as you don't start giving in to big corporations that hate their costumers and try to eliminate independent competition I'll continuing to support Dungeon Craft. Also, been buying stuff off Crowdfunding sites for years with one one or two disappointments from well over 100 crowdfunded products. So in my book they are worth it.

Masterhit

I'm the sliver of the population who loves module reviews :) I listen to every single pod and watch every video or actual play I can find on materials I like or am remotely interested in. Too bad it's not a valid revenue source! I think we all support you in making this more profitable and upping exposure of the hobby. Good luck!

Sean S.

100% support the decision. Why? Trust. We trust you. To me, it's only an "advertisement" if it's not something you genuinely believe in. When you genuinely believe in it, it's a "recommendation", in my eyes. If we trust that you're only going to be showing stuff you believe in (paid or otherwise) and that trust is never broken, it is as you say: A win for everybody!

James

I wish good luck. Your video brought up a couple ideas I think relate. First, you have a right to Name Imaging Licensing (NIL) similar to college athletes. If google/youtube isn't playing fair, by all means try something different. It may work out better for you. It may not. Try it. I think everyone here wishes you luck and wants you to be successful. Second, indie support is hard to earn. I think indie RPG vs D&D is similar to self-published authors vs publishing houses. I can tell you I am far less likely to pick up a self-published author book than a Joe Abercrombie, George RR Martin, or Brandon Sanderson book, even if the self-published book is 1/20th the cost. In close to 100% of cases, the self-published book is not going to be as good. It definitely lacks the advertising support. I think the typical RPGer has a similar experience with D&D vs the indie games. I admire what you do and really enjoy your work. It is an uphill climb. Good luck.

Daniel Pettersson

I like how you keep us in the loop. I'll stick around for a good long time yet, professor!

Jon Skupin

Advertise games and books that are still in print? Fantastic!

Graham Kane

Your channel, your rules, Professor! Totally in favour of supporting Indy games and crators, I'll be sticking around.

MrGunn
>>113494734

@Rufus Lynks Some good points here, your fund raiser idea is an interesting alternative approach to advertising. Now, I and the authorities really want to know what is going on in that basement of yours. ;P :D

MrGunn
>>113496902

@Kelsey I agree, Google made $60B in profits in 2022, sure it was down from 2021's $76B, but they currently have $115B cash on hand, and still they gouge folks. To put $60B in perspective, if Google were to earn $1 of profit every second, it would take nearly 2000 years to make that $60B No, Google is evil, and the old adage; behind every great fortune is a great crime, is true.

MrGunn
>>113498208

@Brian Oldfield I like the term enshitification, I first heard it from Sly Flourish.

MrGunn
>>113498828

@Nathaniel Bennett Agree, nothing infuriates me more than to go to the cinema and have to sit through a bunch of adds. Liked, WTF, I already paid $20 to sit in your stupid theater and now I have to sit through adds too. Grrrr.... :[

Nathaniel Bennett
>>113498828

I’d pay extra to not have to sit through all the commercials at the movies! 2-3 previews is fun. 20-30 minutes is too much!

Seth Bunton

Professor a lot of my DMing “style” comes from watching your videos. Very early in my D&D journey I looked to this channel for guidance. I support your decision to bring in other streams of revenue to keep your channel not only alive, but thriving. Keep doing what you, and may all your rolls be 20’s!

Elvis Ramone

Advertise things you like, sounds pretty ethical. In all honesty it was your recent Zines! episode along with Ben Milton's review of Knock! that pushed me over the edge to pick them up. While waiting for the physical books to arrive I have been treated to some of the finest content written for the hobby. Will I spring for everything you may push, no, but I have grown to trust your opinion on games and will definitely give what is said a fair hearing. If I do not hear from creators I like about things I may like, I may not get to hear about them at all. It also makes the day go by easier in the mail truck.

Frederic Schmitt

Seriously, I don't want to know in detail what you earn. I support that you accept sponsorship if (and only if) you like the product. I will watch everything. I know about the pesky algorithm problems. I support you on patreon, I will support you with my views, even if I am not interested.

Rufus Lynks
>>113494734

Well now. For what it's worth, I have no basement. But everyone knows in contemporary villainy, it is essentially to have you patsy plan in place well in advance. Nurturing those fools is a key part to any such successful endeavour, and, most importantly, a successful departure and separation of the whole affair.

James C

Google can kick rocks. They are biting the hand that’s feeding them. Other platforms need rise up to create a competitive market. Do what you need to do to keep up with quality content.

Cee-Jay

I support you in making as much money as you can off of this gig. Ain't nothing wrong with that. As long as you are crystal clear about the circumstances surrounding a product you are reviewing (and as long as you remain a credible, discerning voice), I'll be good to go. I think Ben does a pretty good of this, and I don't see why you can't do the same. Best of luck to you!

Thorne Tanaka

I hope you keep going as long as you can If you need to change to keep the content going, and your vacations to GenCon ... do what you need to do PDM :)

William Smith

I found nothing shocking about your changes. Smart to adapt to survive. One thing, I appreciate the desire to want to give and impartial review and not get paid or a free copy. But what you (and most videos like that) do is show the product, give an overview, and tell what you like about it. I don't see any reason to not get compensated for that. If you were going to do a review of a multiple play session of the game, that would be a review I would think would need more impartiality. Keep up the good work.

David R. Howard

You do what you need to do. I like your content; have purchased and backed things I’ve seen in your videos; and enjoy the fact you want to do something besides talk about WOTC’s latest campaign guide.

Dan Webb

Looking forward to see where you take this channel

virtuadept

Professor DM, this is They. You know, the They that people always say "They say..." about. We ("They") feel as if your channel is under-monetized. You should make a movie with hilarious Speak with Dead jokes and throw in some well timed product placement. It is perfectly fine to feature paid advertisement in your channel. They do it all the time. They say it's cool. Why should professional sports players make all the ad bling? If Nike wants to make a special Air Deathbringer shoe, you should Just Do It.