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Who is who and who is good and who is bad and WHO!?

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Marissa Nielsen

My top suspects for the Master so far are one of Mae and Osha's moms or Qimir. I'm leaning more towards one of the mothers, because of the requirement to kill without a weapon paralleling the coven discussing how they view the force. Also, Mae saying that the Master calls it the "First Lesson" seems very pointed to me and very much something their mothers would've said to them. I agree with the want for more character beats, though I could always use more character beats in any show. They're some of the best moments lol. I do think Mae making the decision to turn herself in really makes the "if you leave, I'll kill you" to Osha not really make sense to me though. One of my off the wall theories is that the Jedi implanted false memories in Osha's head, because we saw her witness all of the bodies and Mae setting the fire and the first thing she says when she wakes up to Sol is "what happened?" That's probably not at all it and it's really that Oshie just witnessed some of what happened that night but my brain is going a million miles a minute and it's just something that stuck out lol. I think a costume design hint for Mae being a more morally complex character is the purple cloak. Purple being a middle ground color in Star Wars sometimes and the moments of softness they are portraying in Mae (not killing Bazil and saying "hey, little buddy", not killing the parent in the bar with Indara, giving Torbin the out of turning himself into the Jedi council, etc.) with the moments of resentment and fear in Osha makes me think they're trying to suggest our twins being morally gray and nuanced. The Master floating down and the slow walk forward was legitimately intimidating. I do think he wants Osha alive which suggests he won't just kill Mae, especially if the Master is Koril or Aniseya. I've also been using he pronouns because it's what they use and my theory might be wrong lol. Sorry for the essay lol! Great reaction and I agree with everything you said in the intro.

Luck Dragon's Lair

I'm fairly sure the kill you thing was the more dramatically phrased way of her saying she was going to fake their death so the jedi would leave. But that things escalated in other ways unrelated to her plan. But who knows. Excited finding out. :-)

Makhiel

Even on rewatch I don't think this was a good episode. It felt like it was over in ten minutes and barely anything happened. If I was binge watching I probably wouldn't've minded as much but on its own it's just weirdly structured. The scene with the moth felt probably the weirdest to me. Sol orders everyone to stand back and then the moth basically flies right into his lightsaber, so we don't even know if it posed any danger to begin with. Unless they're saving it for later why not just have the Jedi fight a whole swarm of them? The last scene was great but it could just as well have been the next episode's cold open. Hopefully the next one will be better, I'm very curious where they're going with this because Mae's revenge is clearly moot and I don't think we're gonna spend four episodes fighting the "Sith", are Osha and Mae getting kidnapped?

Marissa Nielsen

Oh, that would be a fascinating turn of events if that's what she meant! I'm in desperate need of more flashbacks lol.

Ben Chan

I had the same exact rection as Kat - Mae's turn seemed out of left field and contrived - almost as if "now that the Big Bad is on the scene, we don't need Mae to be the evil one anymore." I can buy her changing her mind after finding out Osha was alive, but it wasn't well written.

Ben Chan

Throwing my two cents into the "who's the Master" speculation: my guess is ... Torbin! He has a slight build, he was clearly traumatized by something that happened the night of the fire and might blame the Jedi, he's been meditating for over a decade, which means he could've Force Projected his image to Mae and Qimir. (and using the image of a Sith, the Jedi's boogeyman) Qimir could have easily faked the poison so that it was non-lethal, Torbin could probably fake his life-signs to appear dead, and ... he has a scar. And we know scar = bad guy! (I have a secondary lesser theory that Qimir actually is Torbin, but I'm not sure we've seen that kind of "glamor" used in SW before)

Ben Chan

You pose some interesting thoughts, but I'm having a diffficult time wrapping my head around the idea that it's one of the witchmoms because of the relationship the Master has with Mae - why would they conceal their identity from Mae and manipulate her to where she's afraid "he" will kill her if she tried to leave? She could easily gain Mae's loyalty with her true identity, no?

Marissa Nielsen

Fair point! My thought was that they might've done something during that night on Brendok that made them feel like their daughters wouldn't accept them or their teachings anymore and we'd probably get more of that in Mae's or the Jedi's POV flashbacks. They both had very different ideas on how to handle the Jedi and raising the twins, so whatever escalation transpired that night might've made that rift worse and caused them to do something they feel guilty for as well as being angry at the Jedi. It could also be a protection of these lessons by hiding their identity, because they were found last time. But that's a lot of assuming on my part and it just itched my brain how much the coven's ideology was reminiscent of the monologue at the end of episode 1 and the little things Mae has shared about the Master. I think Torbin is a great suspect too and it would be great to see that actor again!

Ben Chan

Also, this has happened before and will happen again. I have a feeling this will be revealed to be similar to the Gideon massacre, where someone (Torbin in this case) who was following orders found themselves in a tragic confrontation, was traumatized by their own actions then turned on the ones who gave them their orders.

Ryan Ratchford

I don't understand the hate for this show. Besides the obvious anti-woke crowd. I'm enjoying this fresh setting and exploring something with actual depth to its worldbuilding (my biggest gripe with the sequel trilogy is how hollow the worldbuilding is--which is why I think the Clone Wars era is the best)

Anthony MacEwan

The entrance of the Master at the end sent chills down my spine. Legitimately terrifying when he's floating just in the background and come down like freakin Dracula.