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Gallifrey Gals Get Dwarfed | Red Dwarf | The Inquisitor S5 Ep2 (Patreon)

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We've talked about potentially seeing a better alternative of yourself, but what would it be like to be judged by yourself?? Like, not just in your head???

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Susan K Dailey Photography

Ths is one of my favourite episodes, especially for Lister - a good way to show he can be smart when he really wants to be. And RIP Jake Abraham - the alternate Lister :(

Porpoise Power

Lister kinda sold himself short. 1. He saved Frankenstein and became god of the Cat People. 2. Erasing yourself midlife, because you haven't 'earned' your existence, doesn't mean you never will.

Cedric Bombs

I love this episode, it's got a very dark tone for such a light show

TuneIntoSanityFM

A great example of when Red Dwarf takes philosophy further than TNG..! Instead of Q putting humanity on trial against Galactic standards, The InquisiTOR only forces you to face your own.

Daniel Graham

So Paula caught the biggest problem with this episode at the end commentary, which is that, if "Lister" is conceived by a diff sperm/egg to give a new potential life a chance, but it leads the same life, the inquisitor would soon realize that he's changing nothing really about the actual lives being lived... at the very best he's replacing consciousnesses that feel under-accomplished with those that think of themselves otherwise. The other potential problem, but i'm not an expert on the details, is that Kryten wasn't conceived as far as i know... we learn in episode DNA that he has an organic brain, but other than that it's hard to imagine that he'd be able to be "rerolled" like real birth humans, or even considered for self worthiness in the first place.

Stephen Wray

When you get to outtakes there's a long sequence of Kryten getting lines wrong outside the door, which then got cut

Paflad

What I love in this one is that when everyone is insullting Rimmer the only one he really takes umbrage at is the dig on his appearance, while all the attacks on his character he just shrugs and agrees with. This coupled with the early scene where he imediately knows he's screwed as soon as he hears the Inquisitors MO really shows that he *knows* exactly what he is. Even someone so deeply in denial as he is can only have their flaws pointed out to them so many times before they have to take them on board and do some self examination...All that and a comedy severed hand, what more could you ask for from a half hour comedy

Kirk Schwenckman

The idea that you would be your own judge in some sort of “final judgment” is what has stayed with me from this episode. Also, the mask was pretty cool.

Andrew Duffy

Oh this episode has my favourite Smeg Up for the whole show... when Lister and Kryten are trying to override the intruder alarm... it just went so badly for Robert 🤭

Mab7373822

This is one of my favourite episodes of Red Dwarf. The concept is maddening in scope, and carried out amazingly effectively on a BBC sitcom budget. The Inquisitor is presumably performing his erasure in chronological order, as to do such erasure backwards would just pollute future events he has already changed. Given that Red Dwarf exists at the likely end of humanity's timeline, then the Inquisitor will have literally erased untold nonillions of souls before getting to Red Dwarf. Lister's victory saves them all, but kills all that were spawned to replace them by the Inquisitor. From this, David Lister is probably the single-most important human who ever lived, impacting every human who was ever born - or nearly-born - in his defeat of this cosmic horror. It's interesting to consider that some of the people we have met before this episode, might have been Inquisitor-created replacements, and might now have been deleted. This could explain any inconsistencies or casting changes.

Lizbeth Marcs

Hahahahahahahaha. I never thought of that. It's a great way to explain at least one of Red Dwarf's famous casting changes. For inconsistencies, I've always fanwanked it was the TImeslides incident since that's where some of bigger inconsistencies started occurring (although in reality it was Grant and Naylor wanted to incorporate some of the book lore...and that they don't really care about consistency if it gets in the way of a joke).

paul

I guess it's good to have a sense of purpose in life, but I feel like the Inquisitor could do with learning to chill out a bit. He's decided to work his way through every sentient being across all of space and time. Sounds like he's a bit of a perfectionist completist. Also, what's his criteria? It's not just humans, he includes holograms, felis sapiens and mechanoids... but not intelligent computers like Holly.

paul

Interesting point that the Inquisitor was probably working through people chronologically. Bet he had fun sorting that list. It still seems like a nightmare though given how people's lifetimes overlap. What do you think are the moral implications of Lister's actions? Is it morally acceptable to end a nonillion lives to save your own skin? Does the fact that you're also saving a nonillion lives help? Are the Inquisitor created lives of equal value as the original lives?

paul

I liked how quickly the two Listers ganged up on Rimmer. Sperms of a feather flock together.

paul

We still can't rule out the possibility that he rebuilds the human race... I doubt it, but you never know!

paul

As much as I like Rimmer, it was nice to have a Lister episode again after basically three Rimmer episodes in a row!

paul

Is the Inquisitor just swapping one sperm for another one from the same man and that's it? Because that's what it sounds like from the Lister "sperms in law". But then in the opening scene it seems like the replacement is a completely different guy.

Daniel Graham

I’m not sure this episode can be reasoned with effectively… I appreciate that with episodes like this and Backwards though, that they don’t 100% care if they can’t make all the logic work or answer the hard questions. If they have something fun and entertaining that they have a vision for, they go for it.

paul

Yeah, I think Backwards is a good comparison. That didn't really add up for me either but at least it had a striking visual gimmick. I like how they don't let continuity across episodes get in the way of being funny or exploring ideas. Within an episode though the logic is usually a bit tighter than this. I feel like by their own high standards the plot of this one is a bit sloppy.

Travis Boyle

I just chalk it up that the Inquisitor was insane from being alone. Like Hudson from Last Day went insane from being alone chasing Kryten. And Inquisitor was alone for Billions of years.

Raven Stromdans

This episode has my very favorite response to catching unsubstantiated criticism for coming up short on the presumed potential of one's life from an outside source. "Spin on it." I am also a big fan of this episodes Batman gambit within a Batman gambit - convincing the Inquisitor that Lister hadn't though through his plan as well as he'd thought and therefor providing the simulant a false sense of confidence in using the glove that Lister just handed back to him. I love that wrap around affect the show really started playing with in these arguably more sit-commy seasons, what with Lister poo pooing the premise of the Trojan Horse in the opening and then essentially using it himself in the end; they really make the writing come across as way smarter than one might otherwise give this kind of show credit for. Anyway, let us Keep Calm and Smeg On, Gallifrey Gals. I'll be here smoking a kipper until the next episode.

Ross Nolan

It is a quieter moment not played for laughs but I loved Kryten's conversation with the Inquisitor. Obviously it is a comedy first but this series can get deep at times. "But I am not a human and neither are you and it is not our place to judge them. I wonder why you do?"

pbaker

Wow this episode has aged wonderfully. The dark, interesting and profound themes really sing the older you get!

Dr Q Who

The hand that Lister picked up to open the door was from the other Lister, which was what Kryten was disgusted about. Have you noticed that the end credits no longer shows the Red Dwarf?

Travis Boyle

This also wouldn't work with TNG characters because they are presented as perfect people almost.

paul

Yeah, he's definitely mad like Hudson. I guess the difference is Hudson was just this thuggish robot mindlessly following Red Dwarf for millions of years in order to single-mindedly carry out his straightforward goal of replacing Kryten. Whereas the Inquisitor has this grandiose masterplan of tracking down and judging every individual that ever lived and he's got all this special tech to help him: time travel, the ability to temporarily turn into people so they can judge themselves, he's immortal I guess... Cool mask though.

David Shadwell

Feels like the idea for this story was too large for a 25 minute run time to me. It's got great gags, great idea and everybody plays it well but there is just too much to comfortably get in. Needed more breathing space I think for it to really take off. More Alternative Lister (RIP Jake Abraham) and Kryten would have gone well and maybe even changing Rimmer and Cat. But then that falls down the plot hole if Lister was a different version of him, would he have taken Frankentstein on board the ship? Would he have refused to give her up when the Captain asked? Would that then impact on what happened with the Drive Plate? Last season, we already saw some consequences of what would happen with a more worthwhile Rimmer (Ace in Dimension Jump) and how that, somehow, had a positive affect on Lister (becoming a Spanners Tech Bod type person - Rob Grant explored this further in his Red Dwarf novel Backwards). So it would seem that even removing one person from the timeline would have multiple impacts on other lives. You can tie your brain in knots just trying to think about it. The whole plot unravels if you think about it too much so best to just lean back and enjoy the fun.

Travis Boyle

My favorite part of the episode

Travis Boyle

I used to use Time slides as well. Until the new stuff started. Now all inconsistencies were caused by the epic shenanigans of Series 9. 😉

Travis Boyle

Enjoyed this episode. Kryten's speech about how maybe mechanoids shouldn't judge humans is probably my favorite part. Starts to fall apart a bit if you over think about it. How he would be changing the timeline all the time. I just go with he went insane by being alone like Hudson from The Last Day episode. You could also think maybe he has done this numerous times and because it is never perfect he starts over again and again. Also the new Lister doesn't seem different. Maybe pull a Yesterdays Enterprise and had Lister in an officer uniform from engineering like Spanners and had Cat's species erased because Lister didn't break the rules and bring Petersen back instead of Cat. Say they both got in a stasis chamber during the accident. Oh and Schitt's Creek reference.👍👍

Firefly24601

In Doctor Who terms... he reversed the polarity!

John Veitch

It's a bit disturbing when you realise that Lister and Kryten - usually the characters to offer moral objections - are guilty of wiping out as many people as the Inquisitor when they undo all his work at the end of the episode. I don't know if this even occurred to Rob and Doug... the effects we see are of characters being restored to life, and even Lister and Kryten's duplicates had already been killed by the Inquisitor through accidental crossfire, so we don't have to see them being erased at the end. On a slightly related but lighter note, it's also interesting how the episode begins with Lister making a not-entirely-serious remark about how certain people deserve to die because of their... gullibility? just before he questions the Inquistor's right to decide who is worthy of life. There's an odd parallel to the previous episode ("Holoship") here, where Rimmer makes a hard-edged judgement on a work of fiction before ultimately changing his viewpoint around. In Lister's case, however, it's not depicted as character growth, and a parallel may not have been intended. The TVTropes page for "The Inquisitor" does draw a parallel between the Trojan Horse story and Lister giving the sabotaged gauntlet to the Inquisitor, but I feel that if that parallel were intentional it would have been acknowledged in a line or two of dialogue.

John Veitch

This episode and (the Gals will have seen it by now even though they haven't uploaded it, so I feel OK mentioning it) "Demons & Angels" have interesting premises and striking visuals, but they (ironically given the Inquisitor's own methods of judgement) don't quite live up to their potential. Because of this, I would consider them the weakest episodes of s5.

paul

I was also wondering if Lister's rant about the Trojan Horse was meant to set up the climax of the episode, as in Holoship where Rimmer complains about how unrealistic the romantic film is before doing the same thing himself, or whether it's just a standalone bit they wanted to squeeze in somewhere, like the Flintstones chat at the start of Backwards. I think it's mostly just a standalone gag, but it does show that Lister's history books are putting him in a more strategic frame of mind. Thank god for those lift up flaps!

paul

Also why is Lister reading about history at all, albeit in comic book form? Are years alone in deep space with Rimmer rubbing off on him?

paul

Yeah, I would say this, The Inquisitor, is probably the weakest episode of series 5. That's not to say it's bad, it's still great, but it's just such a strong series. The first and last episodes of series 5 could easily be considered the top two episodes of Red Dwarf ever. I have fond memories of Demons and Angels but it's been a while, so let's see how it holds up...

Daniel Graham

The Inquisitor says something like "those that never had a chance at life" whereas Kryten says unfertilized eggs and sperms that never made it... another huge logic gap in this episode is that The Inquisitor after removing Lister and Kyrten from the timeline says all that is left is to remove their physical form... if this is true, there would be no possible way for future Kyrten to come save the day before they are deleted.

John Veitch

Well, it's mythology rather than history. I don't know if that makes a difference. What confuses me is that Lister seems to be learning about the Trojan Horse for the first time, but he knows it was the basis of the phrase "beware of Greeks bringing gifts". Was that included as a "FUN FACT!" caption in the comic?

paul

Haha, could be! I was just relieved that Craig Charles managed to get through such a mouthful of dialogue, what a champ!

paul

This episode could have done with Kryten saying to the rest of the characters at one point, "Don't think about the plot too much, just sit back and enjoy it" and then looking at the camera, Basil Exposition style, and adding, "and that goes for you guys too!"

Daniel Graham

If not for the bit where he deletes the guy in the beginning, I could almost convince myself that the inquisitor did this all as an act to have an experience with others that were lost at the end of time before going about his way leaving them unscathed but having had an adventure.

paul

I like that line too, but I feel like there's a weird bit of screenwriting sleight of hand going on there. Up to that point, Rimmer, Cat and Kryten were more or less talking to themselves, not The Inquisitor directly. But when Kryten says, "The rules are yours not mine" it's like he's somehow able to bypass himself and address The Inquisitor directly. So when he says "it's not our place to judge them", he's referring to himself and the Inquisitor as fellow robots not having a right to judge humanity, although really he's supposed to be talking to himself, so it should be "we Krytens don't have a right to judge them".

paul

So he was lonely and did it all for shits and giggles? Makes sense.

John Veitch

The folks on the "Ganymede and Titan" podcast said that their problem with the scene is that it comes across too much like Craig is just doing stand-up.

paul

Yes, that's a good way of putting it. It feels like a weak bit of shoe-horned in observational comedy.

Sebastian Bodine

One of those episodes that just combines so much plot, character, and philosophy. I can't wait for them to cover the rest of season 5!