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971 - The Years of Whatever feat. Will Sommer (9/22/25) (Patreon)

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2025-09-23 01:00:05
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2026-06

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Will Sommer of The Bulwark returns to Chapo to talk about the right’s reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk as well as his funeral proceedings in Arizona. We recap the Groyper War that preceded the assassination and the pressure it put on Kirk to move right, as well as the conspiracies surrounding his shooting. Was Israel involved? Why was there no exit wound? Did Charlie have a late-in-life conversion to Catholicism? And which faction of the right will be able to define the man’s legacy?

Follow Will Sommer on Twitter/X: https://x.com/willsommer 

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Nolan

Swag!

Evan Pitkin

Eventually I wanna stop reading this fucker's name.

Brent

I’m not going to wish my opponents well. I want to see them suffer.

Hunter

a 30-06 will reliably punch through a 1/2” steel plate at 100 yards

Cumtickles

It’s gay sex time!!!

Chapo Bath House

I'll be honest, the extremity of the mourning spectacle did briefly make me think "INSIDE JOB" Stranger things have happened, but I think the right was just ready to go with any public display they could spin

T33ny

I cant wait to rap Lil Durk songs to CK's tombstone

Andrew Cross

our rightly-guided, blessed shahid charlie kirk

Zach B

Fantastic ep title chris

Mike Loudin

Will sommer back on the pod!

Last Years Man

Okay, I live abroad and I'm out of touch. What is Felix referencing at the beginning with the "third chair" and "way this bull work" joke?

Juan Gonzalez

Head down, x, pill, Percocet, off it

Timothy Buttons

Can't wait to listen to this one, I Will S on Chapo is always a treat (I also have to include an obligatory recommendation of his excellent QAnon book)

Gern

This is some kind of a cuckold lifestyle reference. The “bull” is who the “cuck” will watch banging his wife from the chair.

Last Years Man

Thank you sensei. I found the thing about cuck chairs so this tracks.

Travis

Felix begins speaking at 1 minute folks!

dfumps

I was sucking up cope, day of, that we'd stop hearing about it within a week. Now I don't even know. A month? Trump's clearly not interested in playing out whatever tape the party is trying to.

Agent Grange

I think Felix actually makes a good point about how Trump has been really weak and putting on a bad show lately. It makes me think maybe his theory that the human body is a battery is true, for him specifically. Since winning his second term, the white house has had a real "redneck who won the lottery" mindset running around doing all this heinous shit spending all their energy and political capital at once. I just really get this feeling that instead of it being four years of this, it's going to burn itself out in a matter of months and then we just get three years of Trump brandonization mumbling onstage about how his administration can't do anything without people yelling at them-- all while the American empire runs on autopilot. Even a fascist psychopath like Steven Miller will just become a reskinned Blinken who's whole job is to go up on stage and be the glassy eyed sin eater for the executive being asleep at the wheel.

MCL

Woke Gluten Free Cracker Barrel

Rio

Blowback ep better be this thursday or you'll have to bear with hurting a day laborer's heart

Patrick Carroll

This is not conservative George Floyd or MLK This is conservative January 6th

interzoa

The seats have the actual power now, not so much the people on them. They are the demented flesh nodes inside capital circuitry and I think their sense of autonomy is mostly found in cultural rituals of extra violence and predation

Ricardo Pleasure

is spencer just their intern now?? is he always in studio?? it's not a problem, i like him, but this is two episodes where he just suddenly pops into the conversation

Wilian Moreira

chris is on paternity leave so there's an open small speaking part

Ricardo Pleasure

oh you're right he mentioned that. thank you!

Leyland

How many other parents recognising all of this but staying quiet? How many bizarre fights over why your kid is texting like their grandparents, playing that game… that way, and using memes wrong?

Unelectable Airwaves

The better explanation is not that Charlie cared about the dead babies, but rather he wanted benefactors with easier to sell causes to his audience of online college kids. If they already lost most normal liberals, AIPAC wants someone at TPUSA who’s really gonna lock in the GOP base of the future and keep em in the tent even after they notice the horrors & lies etc.

DT

A Time of Whatever, where the Strategy of Hypertension reigns.

Zzz

💯

peter_mcc

we regret to inform you that ‘PEPE’S A DIFFERENT FROG!!!’ is the funniest thing anyone on this podcast has ever screamed into a microphone.

ploob

As much as this shit is essentially on rails I am currently hoping he becomes too physically/mentally diminished to effectively install himself as emperor in 2027

ploob

Wearing white to your assassinated husbands' memorial fucking rules.

Agent Grange

If Matt were on this episode I feel like he'd say something about how walking into a Starbucks and screaming until they write Charlie Kirk on your mocha is the modern, conservative version of anarchist church burnings in the Spanish Civil War.

Wandering Jack

The Stephen Miller speech was so distracting because he was coming on soo strong about Erika. Dude was auditioning to be the new stepdad with that speech. Blood and soil and also awoogah!! Amirite fellas?!

Agent Grange

If you want a picture of the future for the Trump administration imagine a weak geriatric boot impotently trying and failing to stomp on a human face, forever.

Anabelle

The sensational production value of the “funeral” + Netanyahu speech did kind of cement the inside job conspiracies for me. Going full guy-outside-gas-station on this one boys

Tvvvv

Hold on, I thought these guys were anti-wake

krumping4

deflection by contoured "stealth" rifle plates explain everything, except why they won't just say so. whether it's true or not.

krumping4

"Charlie Kirk assassination" still sounds like part of a riff

DT

I think he actually did say something about Starbucks being an accessible fantasy of social control. Like you pay for a coffe and you can make the barista say anything you tell them to.

chronye

baristas are the sin eaters 😂

Agent Grange

🚨 POINT OF FACT ☝️ 🤓 🚨 They call the bugs Fascists in Helldivers. The joke being that they're hivemind insects with no ideology, meanwhile "democratic" super earth is an obvious dogmatic fascist hellscape. I still think that connection is a little tenuous but we need to collectively get our story straight here.

chris

Around 48:00 Love the all-flavors soda assassinators quip but does that ONLY apply to these? Guess Tom O’Neil full of shit then.

hot_local

idk i remember a particular election night special where something very funny was screamed into the mic

T.A. Martin

In Mike Huckabee's defense, have you met his wife Janet? She was my state's first lady for ten miserable years. She was by far the biggest abuser of the Governor's Mansion budget, and the Arkansas State Police escorts in our history. Janet was famous for treating regular people like crap, using her office to receive gifts. Her successor, Ginger Beebe, spent the first few months of her time counting the silverware, and making sure gifts to the Mansion hadn't mysteriously disappeared under the Huckabee's watch. So the comparison of Israel as a shitty wife is an apt one.

Agent Grange

Obsessed with the idea that Huckabee is a wife guy for the worst woman on earth and thinks that's just what normal marriages are like.

K

lol re: Candace wanting to see the other camera view of the shooting — reminds me of Herzog’s Grizzly Man when he tells the ex-gf “you must destroy this tape”

Ram Dent

does anyone else feel a sense of lowlevel dread that they could basically very well throw us in the camps for subscribing to the chapo patreon at this point lmao. It's felt like I've been hallucinating for two weeks

Nicholas Hamann

It’s about being able to gin up war with Iran.

Joey Fazzoli

We’re all definitely on a list

GoyBulletStopper

And if young conservatives are convinced isr did CK in and the left knows isr is evil regardless. Maybe something good could come of that. Who knows, I have to hope something will give.

Daffy

All these ultra conservative morons have investments in the same companies they pay to run security. Would be illegal but we're in a lazy fascist shitstate. I bet $50 they are keeping that one quiet so it won't tank the body armor company their cousin is embezzling. I didn't even have to watch the video and it sounded like a armor deflection. These pros know that chest armor can't stop a high powered round. Vests are meant for close in, hand gun style attacks. Not a long gun defense. There really isn't a good one infact. High powered rifles are hard to stop. They were designed to defeat the light armor of the time. Any mil-sec mind knows this. They're sitting on it to discourage copycat attacks and keep their investments up. Smart money could get rich running a short squeeze on security companies. These events are getting more common. And nobody has ever really found a wearable vest that can stop AND catch a 30 caliber round.

Ant koz

I have been having a fantastic time following a series of “rapture influencers” on Instagram for the last six weeks. The sum of their evidence is gathered from tik toks. Seeing typical influencer hype language come with numerology, tik toks, dreams from children, all built into like trend dances for the rapture and a love of Jesus really is peak 2025 American culture.. “like and subscribe guys and be ready for September 23 and 24!!”

christoph.s

Yes it looks very grim. Funny though that they immediately stepped on the opportunity with the Kimmel firing, and now backtrack. If Maga had anything close to a real opposition, you could exploit those opportunities. But then if there was opposition trump would not be president.

Dee Rubes

“Charlie, go away! Go away!”

Nathan

I hope palantir doesn’t know that my real name is Michael

Daffy

Eh, we all forgot about Covid because THEY wanted us too. Now they won't let us forget about Kirk. But that's 2000s thinking. It worked with Sept11th because nobody had a permanent distractor in their pocket. Before we invaded Iraq most Americans grew tired of it, but had no input on matters. Now our input is the same but our attentions are fractured. Astroturfing is obvious on all mindsets. Next week when your conservative family is played out on the kirkness, tell them how to use adblock. Teach them about firefox and how you haven't had to watch Daily Wire ads since 2020.

David Popoola

“You’d think I was in the third chair in the hotel room the way this bull work” Lmaooooo

Rhys Hayes

Liz put it well the other night when she noted that Kirk wasn't just some pundit, he was the head of a well-funded national political organising network capable of supplying an entire electoral ground game for candidates of his choosing. So forget about his shooting - it's in the fight for control over TPUSA that you're going to see the real vicious bloodletting.

Man

Hailing back to Rome, like Rome didn't militarize The Rhine and Danube Rivers to keep all of these people's ancestors out of Roman Territory because they saw them as these inferior barbarians

Paul Hurdle

dead at the real id comment from Felix 🤣

justdave

Everyone's talking about the jews but has everyone forgot about the REAL religious zealots at the heart of global finance, political assassination and war profiteering? (The Mormons)

justdave

😎 nice try Nate

justdave

Only this time we're all the shamans. Sitting cross-legged around a volcanoe holding hands as we watch Charlie die in the worst way possible. Was it the Gods? Is there an after place? Is everyone lying to me? O well sorry Charlie

justdave

(hehaditcomming)

Methew

The theory that Israel did it does not depend on him having a sudden moral revelation about Palestine. It only needs that he is skeptical about Israeli narratives and faltering persuasiveness and that it’s untenable for him to hold their dumb line as hard as they want him to while he’s getting pinched by the extremely large and growing discontent with Israel from his base to stop being intentionally stupid buying every line of BS And the motive to kill him as opposed to cut funding doesn’t require Israel to see him as a threat, it only requires that they may have seen him as significantly more useful as a martyr than continuing to be one of their very most significant single interfaces for reaching the conservative youth. Coming from a person who doesn’t think Israel killed him But yes, the characterization yall make does reflect the theories online largely, but there’s much less retarded ways to think about the possibility than those people are posting about

Methew

Charlie failed to hold the dam, failed to show the will to double his efforts for all the extra cash, and they lose their last American youth support base more everyday. Maybe a “radical leftist” shooting him and giving maga the ability to generate a martyr to manufacture consent for political crackdowns is more useful than having him get BODIED in the campus tour over Israel. And knowing that he’d be forced to accommodate that Israel-exhausted/skeptical base more and more. There’s the outline, u can run with it in more ways too. Not as dumb as twitter theories but also no evidence for anything other than the strained relationship and his pinched position between his Zionist bank rollers and his Israel-disillusioned base, and the growing precariousness pf israels future

Tom Kuhn

March to Heaven by The Fibonaccis

MEAT CLOWN

Yeah but at least the Democrats learned a valuable lesson and stopped supporting Israel

Jon Lyons

The robots already took over and subjugated humanity long ago.

Mitch

Charlie’s body super strength theory is amazing. He’s been doing back pain commercials for how long? 5-10 years?

Mayor McCheese

Bluesky gets an undeserved bad rap. Yeah, there are a bunch of cringe accounts but really it just feels like pre-Elon Twitter. The timeline is overwhelmingly just people posting normal stuff, sharing, liking, quoting. It's just og twitter. It was funny to see Adobe get run off the site though. That was new. It's funny to see Democrat politicians see Blueksky as this shitlib paradise only for them to post and then they have to delete their post because the replies are mainly people just saying "f**k you. Do your job

HuffingGasInTheShed

Happen more often?! Payne Stewart, Mel Carnahan and Paul Welstone

WizLizGiz

Stephen Miller is a zero charisma choke artist. I mean damn. It just fell so flat. 🤣 🤣

WizLizGiz

A cruel master will punish even the slightest hint of disobedience from a dog that has tended to grovel.

Oliver Clozov

First they came for the Seekers, and I did not speak out because I was not a Seeker

Felix Engels

they're going after tylenol because it's one of the only recommended painkillers pregnant women can take. they think a suffering mother displays virtue or something. idk. they're evil and hate women.

Stealtreasure

51:22 Felix first suicide mention for the dead heads

Stealtreasure

It feels like an extremely unfunny pre Elon twitter

MRSAful Fate

Americans will do anything but acknowledge the real crises we face and the real reasons those crises have arisen.

Mayor McCheese

I see basically the same amount of left-wing shitposts over there than on X. I don't know what shitpost happens to mean to you personally though. Charlie Kirk fireworks being a wrestling entrance? Trump is dying celebrations? The Rapture flopping? Idk. Seems the same thing without the forced ads and timeline takeovers.

MRSAful Fate

Serious question: I never saw a gun in the stairwell pics of Tyler Robinson and i didn't make one out when they released the video of him climbing down from the roof. Has anyone said what's up with that? Was the gun some sort of switch barrel?

josh williams

I’m gonna need a Pixar Sodas reference for all assassinations on the future. Felix needs to become pope of a new soda religion.

Hunter

that’s what I thought too but his nipples are clearly protruding in most of the video stills — maybe they have faux nipple plates but not that I’ve seen

Hunter

That was my thought as well bc he was known to wear plates. Except this time his nipples are clearly visible in most of the video. Maybe they are doing fake nipple vests now but looks exactly like regular chest contours

SlumulousCum

Fate whispers to the warrior: "You can not withstand the storm The warrior whispers back: "you have to write Merry Christmas on my cup because told you that was my name"

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

"It's a different frog!" Me when RFK Jr tries to inject Methylene Blue into my arm to cure my autism.

Doug Cartel

Charlie "Smirkin' Captain" Kirk

John

I am Charlie Kirk

SlumulousCum

Fate whispers to the warrior: "here's your happy meal sir" The warrior whispers back: "I asked for a boys toy, you gave me the one for girls"

SlumulousCum

Fate whispers to the warrior: "You can not withstand the storm The warrior whispers back:"I shidded and farted and camed"

Doug Cartel

"MAGA loves fireworks" (except when black kids do them)

Doug Cartel

"you cannot withstand my storm" "I AM THE STORM" - some guy right before a Cat 4 sweeps him into the ocean

Koshin

I think they're saying he assembled and disassembled it on the roof so it would have just been in his bag

Jabroni Ludd

Mr. Chapo get Garth Ennis on the pod!

Doug Cartel

Here's my Kirk conspiracy: he was shot by an angel Why the fuck not

Thomas Stevens

I’m not conspiracy pilled with the Kirk shooting but as someone who has killed an elk with a 30-06 derived round it’s shocking that it didn’t go through him

Doug Cartel

"mother meme" is such a kojima ass term

Kyle Smyth

Starting the rumor that he was part Nephilim. It explains everything including his unnatural head shape

Emily Richardson

Lots of psychotic right wing folks are still latched onto the trans girlfriend storyline, trust me.

Zach H.

If Israel is Americas wife, she is pegging us nightly.

Jack

The convo about Charlie Kirk and the conspiracy around it makes me feel extremely embarrassed about my previous life as a JFK truther sicko. Mostly the part about that guy having a moral revelation.

Drappizdaddy

Benny Johnson is wielding men’s swords into his mouth.

Oliver Clozov

do catholics read books now? being raised catholic i thought the whole point was that you don't need to read because we have a guy who reads for us and tells us what to think. way easier

Seth Baker

My theory if israel did actually kill him it was not because charlie was about to turn but more less they knew that charlie was in the trump circle and thought by killing them he would crack down on the left because everyone's going to think a leftist did it and that way he wouldn't have to worry about the left potentially ruining any weapon deal

Blank

💯 re dog day afternoon. Also check out the movie mindset ep on that, so good

MRSAful Fate

Makes sense. I just haven't seen or read anything about it

Ant koz

You’re talking about the communist takeover of a government that’s basically never allowed a decision from anyone left of the center right?

Bobi Jon-son Kenobi

Have we ever considered that maybe Israel killed Charlie Kirk for the lulz? Or maybe Kirk said something that annoyed that Netanyahu? Israel has killed people for less.

Skitzaf Raynik

Erikakurk is my favorite Sumerian god.

Ligma

I think if it was an inside job it would be from the Trump admin manufacturing an event to rally the basé around and crack down on Trumps ennemies. Maybe isreal was in on it by providing logistics or Intel

Seth Baker

1:04:45 I call that the iPhone 5c era

Son of El Topo

yeah it's insane how many people think of him as just a debate guy or something, he was literally the head of a political organization that recruited young people.

Son of El Topo

Thank you for clearing up the Helldivers thing, that has been bothering me

Seth Baker

Yeah for the most part I'm like will and just want to wait before coming to any conclusion

drizzly_november

No, we have a guy who reads the book for us, so that we have time to read other books. Protestants only read the one book.

drizzly_november

Seeing those sparklers go off specifically made me feel like I was in a Righteous Gemstones plotline.

Ozzie

Begun, the groyper wars have

Oliver Elliott

Sure - there’s always been Catholics who wish they were Jesuits but like to fuck too much. But for the most part you are very much correct.

Oliver Elliott

Nah, I think Putin’s the only guy who really does it just for the lulz. One of the reasons Ukraine felt kind of out of character to me. No lulz to be had with that one for sure.

Phil

The .30-06 of Longinus pierced Christ’s neck

t o r t

Just started the episode praying that United States of Whatever is the outro song

Oliver Elliott

A direct hit to a human neck with 30-06 round staying lodged in seems almost impossible. Something is most definitely up.

Kyle Smyth

The only other piece of 'hmmm' type info I'd point to is the short clip Sean McCarthy posted of Kirk on Bill Maher with them praising the quality of Israeli security details. That along with the rest of the anomalies we've seen in this case are enough for me to raise it from the 'a bit odd' category to 'it's likely we're not getting the real story here' As to the motive for Israel if one of the highest profile evangelicals can effectively snub them that could lead to an implosion in their support on the American right. With Kirk dead that base of support has been completely shored up. Even Nick Fuentes has pivoted toward them

Yarblockos

It's a riddle wrapped inside a mystery wrapped inside an enigma. Even the fuckin shooters don't know, DON'T YOU GET IT!

T

Israel killed Charlie Kirk because they thought they were aiming for a baby's head

Chris E

Will Sommer is such a boob.

Kyle Smyth

I'd also add that the reason the liberal and left commentator spheres have been so slow on this is they haven't yet adjusted to the reality that under Trump, none of the typically 'trustworthy' institutions whether it's the FBI, dept of health, justice, etc function as anything other than Trump goons. And Trump having fully allied himself with Netanyahu, a much savvier political operator, means on some level they're now all his goons as well. That's the context in which this stuff should be analyzed.

John

Israel

A Loon

Yes, disassembled it in the 6 seconds between the shot being fired and running off the roof, then reassembled it in the patch of woods/chicken coop while on the run from police. Along with hauling the rifle in a pant leg for the three hours while he wandered the campus without knocking the scope out of alignment. Along with several changes of clothes along the way. With the evidence released so far it seems more like he was another decoy.

Nathan

Sean’s a smart guy but I do think he’s a little over his skis on this. If Robinson is just a patsy, why was he at the shooting with his grandfathers gun then confess to the killing? There’s lots of weird stuff about the shooting but if Robinson drove hundreds of miles with a gun and confessed to the killing, you’re just making yourself look silly denying he did it.

Kyle Smyth

'Confessed' via a reconstructed text exchange without timestamps that many have observed sounds exactly like it was written by a fed. I can grant that he was there, but they really haven't sufficiently connected the gun/bullet to the killing itself. No ballistics analysis was performed at all, no ambulance on the scene to corroborate the damage/cause of death, little to no investigation of what physically happened seems to have been conducted. A rifle/bullet of that power shot into a soft human neck leaves an exit wound. No body armor either, that misinfo has been spread but he wasn't wearing one. The explanation provided, that he was like the man of steel is clearly nonsense. So you really only have to ask the most basic question of what physically happened to reject the official story entirely.

B

Mr Biederman really is batting a thousand these days

Tvvvv

The cure to autism is an end to the current world order. All of the beliefs about are true because all of the ailments create the disease. The three mental health diseases of Americanism are schizophrenia, autism, and anti-social personality.

Jack

Laura Loomer is our Revolver Ocelot

Nathan

Didn’t he confess to his parents and pastor and turn himself in?

Anthony

It’s because gay people disproportionately work at starbucks. They want to make a gay customer service slave debase themselves

justdave

Thanks nati. He gets confused sometimes

justdave

Does this mean you're my girlfriend now?

themaroonlagoon

50:00 Descriptions of Felix's of stuff like this -- Laura Loomer and her Loomer-ness -- are just so wonderfully oddball!

Jaime Christley

it just sounds to me like the surgeon made an oopsie and is selling that "Charlie Kirk had T-800 neck" to cover his ass. maybe a Killing of a Sacred Deer type situation and Charlie's kid is going to come calling in 15-20

Schaeffer Mallory

I thought the Israel killing Charlie Kirk theory is that if he was in fact turning on Israel, it would mean the younger/future republican generation is not a reliable source of support for Israel, which is to say they'd have no base whatsoever

Krinkton

Very reasonable take, but correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the bullet bounce off the plate carrier he was wearing under the shirt and then fragment into his neck? I don't want to watch the video again but if that's how the bullet hit him then wouldn't it be possible to not go through and through?

Kyle Smyth

That's another point of confusion as he was apparently convinced to turn himself in by family/pastor but once in custody he didn't confess or cooperate with police at all. It's an odd sequence. Like if you confessed to both your family and friends online why bother fighting it afterward? There's the possibility of the kid being disturbed enough to have wanted to take 'credit' for it initially and then realizing he doesn't want to die once arrested. I don't know ultimately. I just know to me that footage doesn't fit a rifle shot to the neck and the timeline/events immediately afterward are very strange altogether.

Noah

QAnon Shaman won the right to vegan meals in prison. What is our version of that?

Noah

If you take an image of the Project Graham guy and overlay Charlie's face on him, it makes perfect sense how his bone structure could have stopped that bullet.

YourBabysFather

You guys thought those were genuine emotions displayed by the widow? God damn you are gullible.

Ben Clarkson

Chris is on pat leave. He is probably filling in.

Greasy_Jones

what if we stood another will sommer next to him...

Anabelle

Her successor, Ginger Beebe,

Ant koz

I think he can be both… the fusion of Kirk and fetterman sounds…. Really hot

Smartalec

I'm confused by that. How is it not a Helldivers meme?

Anabelle

If I was a barista I would write Sharley Curk and act confused when they get mad

Chris E

I'd say..."noice!"

Thomas Stevens

He wasn’t wearing any armor, the bullet hit him directly in the neck.

Tony Howard

My wife is not a big chapo head but that was a hit for her 🤣

Evan

NOT SABRINA!!

Chubby Justin

chaining herself to twitter was her mgs1 encounter with cyborg ninja... or was it getting banned from lyft "you were LUCKY, snake! We'll meet again!"

Greasy_Jones

Groyper has undergone the same semantic shift as hipster, emo, and yuppie, it just means "guy i don't like"

Schwartz666

Loomer is Trump's true soul mate. She completes him, literally and figuratively!

Schwartz666

Israel & 'Merica sitting in a tree.. G E N O C I D I N G

Jimmy McMillan

Putting up statues of Charlie Kirk on every campus is literal rage bait. Right media will be waiting for a few of them to get vandalized so they can reheat their anger towards college kids

Schmidty

describing Nick Fuentes as “Charlie Kirk’s Wario” made me laugh so hard i spit coffee on my dashboard, expect your cleaning bill soon Will Sommer

Antifa Annie

The death rattle of liberalism

myminisinavice

Maybe now we can finally get the CPAC episode back on Patreon now? 🥰

DG

What’s the song at the end

MKatieUltra

And you have to figure Trump is thinking of Baron and wanting to blame Melania, while it's his advanced paternal age that most likely caused Baron to be an autist. It's mostly genetic or genetic in the sense that older sperm has more mutations that cause it.

Austin Williams

Pretty sure Will's last words will be "oh god I can see the Gaylord Convention Center in National Harbor, Maryland"

Markus

The Fibonaccis - March To Heaven

etienne

many people are calling it "the most pissed on statue, perhaps of all time"

etienne

I think the biggest problem with Bluesky is that Twitter/X didn't collapse like it was supposed to

etienne

43:55 felix uming and ahing and looking for his words for twenty five seconds is honestly the most cogent analysis you can pull out of anything here

DarylBarenziah

Comrades go check out “part of the problem” by Dave smith, the later content is CR A Z Y

shoe gaze tremolo cliche

I don't know about a thousand but he is funnier and less annoying recently. There was a while when lots of his jokes didn't land.

krumping4

those look kinda like velcro strap ends, and lots of plates aren't that wide

krumping4

it's straight up not, and would practically behead him if it somehow did.

niceman

I don't think Israel need the excuses Chapo expects they need. Charlie didn't have to "turn over a new leaf" or "feel bad". Israel wants to kill people who just don't think they're great. But why take out Charlie? He wasn't just a podcaster, he was super influential in the conservative crowd and wanted to run for President.

Jacob Dysart

The texts are simply not written by a fed. They’re written by a mama’s boy internet addict reddit furry trying to be haunted and epic for his roommate gf! I’m baffled by this stuff. I’ve never believed text messages MORE. Don’t you think a fed would pack out these texts with a bunch of the corniest “I am a leftist doing this leftistly” shit they possibly could? The bizarre diction is perfectly in line with a guy living in a hot couch apartment playing helldivers and furry porn games, regurgitating stale memes and getting delusions of grandeur.

Jon

I’ve come to terms with the fact I will never understand what a groyper is

Timothy Buttons

When she sucks his little dick they combine like a Megazord

Andrew

You have to grasp the optics of evangelicalism- Erika Kirk did not publicly ‘forgive’ the killer to suggest that he should not be executed. She will likely still advocate for the death penalty, and will see no contradiction with her metaphysical act of ‘forgiveness.’

Ligma

Since this admin clearly has a eugenics program, I wonder how long it will take until they start prosecuting women for having prématuré, FASD, ASD (ect.) Children

Taylor Markey

Similar to a balk in baseball, I can’t really describe a groyper but when I see one I’m like “yeah - that’s definitely that thing”

Matthew Born

No one celebrated Charlie Kirk’s death more than MAGA.

Matthew Born

Can’t have fascism without feckless liberals.

Drappizdaddy

That’s great. I would never poke fun of someone’s preferences. However, Benny’s grift has led him to do things like go to Alligator Alcatraz and make content. The dude would do anything for money except come out of the closet.

Kyle Smyth

No one in heaven or earth uses the word 'vehicle' in a regular, private conversation other than cops or feds. It just doesn't happen. Let alone with a 22 year old who, like probably 95% of his generation, draws much of their vocabulary from internet/video game/stream culture. Also, "remember those bullets I engraved?" is an all-time SVU episode line.

Steve D

Honestly was expecting United States of whatever from the Sifl & Olly show

Alex

I'm not complaining cause I love MGS, but yeah Felix, we get it you've been playing MGS

Jacob Dysart

your assertion that “most 22 year olds draw much of their vocabulary from internet/stream culture” is the box you are getting trapped in here. Not every gen z kid is getting the Edgar and doing Fortnite dances. There is still every stripe of social outcast with bizarre taste and odd upbringing within that generation. This is a soft-spoken gamer who grew up in a red-blooded republican Utah family, looking to the internet to validate his sense that he was more intellectual, sensitive, and funny than his social circumstances validated. Many many such cases. Many many people with weird stilted Reddit diction, who say things like “my love” to feel like epic poets. This is absolutely a type of guy. And another type of guy is the “damn I have gladio brain” leftoid looking for epic dark conspiracies everywhere! The conspiracy is right in front of us- the right using this event to extract cultural concessions and justify political oppression. No need to go find something else to make sense of it. Israel is fucking crazy evil whether they kill an American podcaster or not, and inventing some bizarre fiction where they… collaborate with intelligence to assassinate a YouTuber who had not even begun to levy full-throated criticism against them… is actually insane. You do not make yourself a more useful weapon against the truly vile people that are making our world worse by hanging onto threads and deranging yourself

PrinceVocalFry

Not gonna lie, Huckabee calling Israel America's wife is giving me strong whore of Babylon vibes. It's incredible he can't see that

Kyle Smyth

Not trapped in anything. I've already said I don't know if I'm right or not. Just laid out a lot of strange details that point to something else. The Israel stuff could be, as Felix said, a case of 'never let a good crisis go to waste' on Netanyahu's part. But I'm sorry, they already stated several times that exchange was 'reconstructed', it had no timestamps, it conveniently referenced every detail of the case, and sounded like a 50+ year old cop. There's little reason beyond law enforcement said so to believe it's genuine and you don't have to be 'gladio-brained' to see that. And re: the politics of it I'd argue the exact opposite. The reason things like this can get foisted on the public with unclear evidence is precisely because it gets immediately politicized. Getting back to the basics and saying, "hey, before we blow up the constitution over this, what actually happened here?" is a perfectly clear-eyed position.

Reece Coren

i love this spencer guy but who is he and where did he come from

Joe

She lies and says she’s in love with him Can’t find whatever man

Austin Williams

I'm getting ahead of this. Can't stand these Yurfo pricks.

Austin Williams

Yeah it's perfectly plausible. Motive, means. Just need a single piece of evidence that that's how it went down. "Dumb dickhead turns the knob to 11" still has the most explanatory power for high profile violence in the US of A.

Craig

Only temporarily

Tea for the Tillerman

2028 is going to be “$3600 in mint condition coins” as house of the rising sun plays for probably everyone on the planet except the Chinese (Southern, after The Indefinite But Great And Prosperous Nuclear Split)

Reece Coren

ohhhhhhhh that makes sense thank you!!

Paul Wolfman

So weird to hear this guy continue to conflate anti- Israeli sentiment with anti-Semitism and racism. That's not what is going on (i.e Jewish voices for peace etc) and it just reiterates establishment propaganda that continues the genocide. And no pushback from you guys! Not cool

SparkSolidarity

That's his role. Externalize right-wing online extremism and conflate it with people who are anti-Israel. He's the same schtick as Travis View and the other first Trump-era "disinformation" personalities.

SparkSolidarity

It's weird how you let this guy conflate anti-Zionism with anti-semitism.

Kvvvy

500 listeners on spotify this is a crazy pull by whoever's covering for chris

Chapo Bath House

I think in the context of people who are opposed to freedom and dignity from anyone that is not them; the only reason to be an anti-Zionist is anti semitisn. I agree that this needs clarification, though

Kolby Roberts

What do I do with this feeling? When I learned of the Nazi regime and other dictatorships, I said I would be the resistance, yet Mon-Fri I show up to work on time to be the efficient cog in the wheel. What should I do?

Chapo Bath House

We're legitimately talking about the white supremists who have made a career from dehumanizing Arabs who are now acting like they care what Israel is doing

Chapo Bath House

I agree with you. I'm talking about the very specific kind of freak that comes up in this conversation about intra-right feuds

Sybil-Shanks, the Prison Cat

I'm sure it was mentioned in this comment section already, but there's a theory that Kirk was wearing a low-profile, metal vest and the bullet ricocheted up and into his neck

Chapo Bath House

There are statues being pissed on that have never been pissed on before

Jimmy McMillan

I've been a little late to work but other than that, I haven't been much better

Chapo Bath House

I know this isn't what happened, but it would be incredibly funny if Trump had him killed over a bitchy, one-sided feud

Chapo Bath House

Being forced to respect Kimmel is the biggest humiliation

James Wallace

I'm not martyring myself for this shit hole

Austin Orecchio

Highly unlikely, ricochet only happens with steel plate, which no one uses except for poor countries for their military and the sort because it’s uncomfortable and heavy and less effective than ceramic armor which doesn’t ricochet and is just as effective if you buy the right stuff. So considering he was wearing a t shirt and you couldnt see a massive thick plate, if he was wearing anything it would’ve been a ceramic vest.

Austin Orecchio

I’m confused on why they think the groyper frog and Pepe are different. I mean I know they can signify different things but it is the same image I thought? Any meme experts?

Justin Kase

What was that creepy hug between Mrs Butt-Head and the carny handed mango man. It was like one of those hugs he gives his daughter

WOO_HODL

Back for the first time in a long time. Chapo fell off so hard. Respectfully, the show without Matt is mid at best.

Natalie

He had a stroke wtf do you want them to do 😭

Dario Sulzman

Outing myself as ignorant here, Felix’s “the way this bull work” joke is just a reference to being part of an orgy? Or Is there specific post/social media moment it’s referring to that I’m not familiar with

Dario Sulzman

A Felix classic. But was it a reference to some post/social media moment I’m not familiar with, or just Felix channeling his OnlyFans girl persona into a funny orgy reference purely of his own creation

GWAR-a-Lago

good episode, Felix sounds drunk, didn't mind that at all

thicchatlogan

chapo fell off, I need to hear Matt's opinions on genocide and political assassinations and whether or not I should wipe my ass before I can form an opinion

Kyle Serfass

A cuck/cuckold was tradionally a man who UNKNOWINGLY was cheated on, but today is more commonly a fetish where a man is WILLINGLY cheated on by his wife. The othe man is referred to as the "bull," both to imply his power and to dehumanize him. The "third chair in the hotel room" is the chair in the corner from which the cuck watches, or the "cuck chair." This is why right-wingers call opponents "cucks," saying they aren't real men and accept/enjoy being donated by some other force such as immigrants or Israel.

Matelda

Irritating to hear Will Sommers handwave the total lack of biography of Thomas Crooks as "well that's the thing about these guys." No it isn't. Crooks and the empty void of his life is not typical of mass shooters or would-be political assassins in any way. I'm not saying that means there was a conspiracy, or any particular explanation, but i hate it when liberal commentators act like their lack of suspicion comes from knowledge or sagacity, especially when they're saying something blatantly wrong.