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Journalist and YouTuber Jordan Shanks-Markovina aka friendlyjordies joins us for an Australian news ep, comparing the MAGA movement of the United States with the right-wing nativism of Pauline Hanson’s One Nation. We talk about Australia’s world of mobsters and bikers, one deputy PM’s war on Koalas, and how Jordies’ videos lead to several criminal prosecutions and his house being firebombed.

Check out Jordies’ videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2-i3KuYoODXsM99Z3-Gm0A

His Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/friendlyjordies

And his podcast The Official Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@theofficialytchannel 

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ploob

You wish me slop!

Koshin

The day CTH officially went lib

Fschnizzle

Australia mentioned whooo

Snac

Oh my god jordies x chapo this will be interesting

Jeffrey Epstein's Assassin

Interesting crossover. I love friendlyjordies... Even if he's just a center left lib

Eamon Short

Holy shit, this is a wild cross over for me. I remember watching him when he used to film his vids in the building right next to mine at UNSW like a decade ago. Then he sold out. Perfect guest for modern Chapo, I guess.

claus_mc

Covering melongate, kyliegate and the census?

Joanna Jane

Oh lord not this Labor shill

Anthrope Salmagundi

Just finished the Gough Whitlam ep of the Dollop, perfect timing!

ambition420

Finally an Australia episode and you get on the most guileless shill for the objectively awful centre right Labor Party. This guy is a total dope and his political project is laughable, neoliberal slop from top to bottom.

Timothy Buttons

I was just listening to a Cumtown clip where they listen to audio of koalas having sex, what an epic coincidence!

Dick Must Bust

FJ have you figured out what neoliberalism is yet? Have you joined us here at Chapo Shithouse to find out?

Fschnizzle

Centre right is a bit harsh

Schwartz666

Friendlyjordies? That's an odd name. I'duv called em Chazzwazzers

louis

god. not this absolute clown

Digby Tomei

Yeah brother went full Labor party simp after the Libs tried to kill him. Guess firebombings really do something to the state of your noodle

Joanna Jane

Honestly I woulda just asked the Boontas Vistas, the Australian Labor Party can suck me off

Joanna Jane

“Look what you’ve done to my boy!”

Liam

The state of our progressive media if this flog is still our go-to representation 😮‍💨

JP

For anyone unfamiliar, Jordan Shanks is aligned with the Labor Right, making his political views basically identical to those of Matt Yglesias, but without the edge. I know Google is a bit shit these days but were you not able to find anyone else?

Jack Patterson

Honestly hard to process how they could correctly read Starmer as an unprincipled ghoul and yet seemingly miss that the ALP are entirely the same

ambition420

It’s not harsh I thought it was pretty charitable

Alberto Rosen

Plus he looks like if Quagmire from Family Guy was a real person

Himbo Slice

The Labor party has completely surrendered to the right wing sda, and shanks is one of their biggest apologists

Digby Tomei

Yeah fellas needs to get Purple Pingers Jordy on

Eamon Short

Jordie clearly hasn't seen the hit film Gotti if he's asking about suburban American conservatives mythologised violent psychos. Also, didn't Felix's house get burnt down as a kid?

Digby Tomei

Fuck me ded what an EP. John Kerrs hair 😂

Matt Crossin

Maybe the worst Australian guest you could have gotten?

Andrew Cross

USA is the kingdoms united by a conqueror, Australia is a series of colonies formed by exiled criminals who mostly live on the coast, ie the free cities

Jack Patterson

Legit reads as either a reactionary turn or lazy disinterest in Australia

Timm

He’s obsessed with putting anyone left of him down. I’m not going to listen to the ep but I hope they asked him about trans people and Jordan Peterson. Not to make a purity test, and its fucked what’s happened to him, he’s just really not a great political thinker.

WeeMadAndo

Fucking christ, FriendlyJordies? Really? Is this what finally makes me stop listening to Chapo? An absolutely baffling choice to platform him.

Des Mosome

So this *is* a Warhammer 40k podcast after all.

Timm

Might as well get his mate Isaac butterfield on next and you can whinge about cancel culture for an hour

Noah

CHUNKS now available for streaming purchase!!

Declan Kennedy

oof... I might have to skip this one fellas

justdave

As an actual cowboy: Until you learn how to speak horse, you have no opinion in my book.

Digby Tomei

Should have got Kyle Stefo 😂

Nick Fredman

Disappointing. If you’re going to have an Australian with actual talent and actually leftist views, many better such as Purple Pingers, Tom Ballard or Osman Faruqi.

Timm

It’s a disinterest. Which is fine. Things a relatively tame here as fucked up as they are.

Roland

Spencer!!! Who the fuck are you booking?!

Callum Blackmore

I’m a patron but I’m not listening to this episode: Jordan Shanks is aligned with the right wing of the Labor Party and subscribes to the bizarre horseshoe theory that Green voters are just as bad as One Nation voters.

Digby Tomei

Friendly Jordies gotta be up there for most punchable heads out there.

Timm

I can’t see this happening with Matt or Amber present. The guy did a standup show inspired by Jordan Peterson about success.

Kelley

That's not a knife, that's a spoon!

Declan Kennedy

yeah chuck this one in the bin and get Andrew on tbh

Morgan

Boonta Vista would have been a better pick for a guest if you’re looking to cover Australia, if this guy was covering US politics you’d be doing a reading series of his radical centrist musings.

Kelley

Isn't this Jordies guy shilling for data centers?

brochoose

Lol first Chapo in years I'm going to skip. Friendlyjordies is like having Matt Yglesias on to yuck it up. All he cares about is electing corporate Labor Party reps, punches left to literally anyone else

Josh R

Not only is this dipshit a paid shill for the ALP, he also runs a self improvement grift. Sucks all around. Purplepingers or one of the Boonta Vista people would’ve been a better get.

Jack Patterson

It’s an insulting level of disinterest though. Better to keep ignoring the country than to interview a reactionary because you don’t care enough to figure out where he stands

Twerk dancer

Australia saw American politics and said: “Cute. Now add koalas, bikies and arson.” 😂 Be honest—which country has the most unhinged political lore? 👀🍿

Aaaaaaaaaaa

You guys should just pack up the show and start an ASOIAF lore channel on YouTube. We’re more likely to get The Winds of Winter than a socialist president so why not.

August1612

the defund the police ramble, now this guy? on my last nerve over here man

Digby Tomei

Fuck yes to dropping some of The Oils in this but 🎶

James

lol nah mate no thanks

Joel

did you guys hire the same vetter as the platner campaign or...?

T

They're absolutely center right, if not just plain right wing; literal record numbers of new coal and gas projects rushed through approvals, appointing a white nationalist ultra Zionist from South Africa with ties to white nationalists to head their "combating antisemitism" task force, talking about fighting "left wing terrorism", constantly making defences of the most depraved actions of the IDF, rolling back protections for First Nations people and literally scoffing and snorting live on air at the notion of fighting femicide. They're genuinely right wing.

Philip Malcolm

Always nice to hear from our idiot cousins

T

I'm genuinely baffled as to how this guy can be friends with both butterface and Boy Boy

Isaac Suárez

Hell yeah, Friendly Jordies is a great YouTube creator (I’m glad he’s getting more attention stateside- the dude is rock solid in his analysis and quite funny.)

T

Or Alexa from Boy Boy

T

Why not have someone like Michael West who's a deadset legend journalist instead of a centrist hack who could've tacked left like most of his audience but instead decided to pivot to the right?

Mac daddy

Lmfao I loved jordies as an aus teen in the early 2010s. This is such a random chapo guest... But politically, sort of like getting on Albert speer to talk about how bad hitler is

Maddy

I've been hoping for an Australia ep for *so* long and I feel like this is a real monkey's paw situation fuck friendlyjordies sucks

Joanna Jane

Pingers PLEASE!!!!!! And they’ve been on Boonty a bunch of times! It’s just puzzling

Emma

Guys we literally have a left podcast that FJ himself has dubbed Chapo Shithouse, it’s called Serious Danger look it up

Cameron McAllister

German defamation law sounds a lot like Aussie defamation law. It’s basically illegal to insult anybody, even extending to consumer opinions: restaurants regularly get google to take down all negative reviews by threatening to sue google. It’s also especially illegal to accuse someone of being a nazi or of being a nazi sympathizer. Go figure.

UltraCoil

Shame to see the boys sucked in by this politically abandoned grifter.

Joe McIntyre

Whatever happened to that Aussie correspondent Chapo used to have in the early days, is he dead or something?

Putz

While I'm proud of Jordan getting rid of the liberal/national party in Australia he's a cheerleader for the Labor Party and tacitly criticizes them on only the most inconsequential mistakes. He actively fights against the leftists despite Australia having preferential voting system that would filter votes to Labor anyway. Chapo is far to the left of Labor... If you were in Aust he'd be attacking you. He's backed Biden and Harris. He's basically decided to sit out on the Palestine-israel issue because the Labor party (state and federal levels) are twiddling their thumbs and clamping down on freedoms (Herzog protests and Royal Commission). He concocts justification for continued inaction on gambling, gas-export-tax, housing (until Labor finally removed tax incentives for speculation) just because his identity is tied to Labor. This is from a decade long "supporter"/follower btw... I patreoned him until a year ago... Couldn't stand the hypocrisy anymore. Edit: also the AI glorification when it's probably just risk management for the CIA (geographical diversification of assets) if not eventually complete decimation of workers bargaining power... Also no criticism of AUKUS cementing Australia to US fascism.

Emma

I can’t bring myself to listen to this, so do any masochists want to let me know if the Greens or the Socialists get mentioned or if FJ gets challenged in the slightest??

NitroDickclapp III

They're pro capital and pro Israel, I'd call them centre right, with a couple of socially and economically liberal policies. And yeah Jordies is a labor party stooge, he openly says he is. He's an entry point and pig mucking journalist at best. At best. His John Barilaro sht was pretty funny though, same with the other mean sht he says about the dogshit awful Australian media. But JP is right, he's a poisonous fuckwit.

Digby Tomei

Yo, straight up get Dave Anthony from The Dollop on the pod to go through Australian politics. Brother has done so many Australian tours he'd be the best dudeson to be able translate the cooked politics of our nation to youse fellas

NitroDickclapp III

Lol I dunno about this one guys. This guy is considered a fuckwit in this part of the world by anyone who isn't a reactionary dipshit, I have nothing against him personally but his output is fucking awful. What's his equalivant in america aussie listeners? Some Dem party stooge comedian? I don't know who that is but it'd be similar to that Dem party twink with the curtain hair cut.

Ant koz

Mett Vee Brady the movie correspondent! He’s a bogan mate!

Ant koz

No I don’t know. I liked him. Like saying bogan more.

Mr Boof

If you want an Australian left podcast from people who actually get pussy, you should try the Battler pod

Clifford

Struggling to think of a Game of Thrones reference that can explain how bad you fucked it on this one 🤣

NitroDickclapp III

Laziness, Chapo has been getting lazy with this shit. They're cruising along doing fuck all. I miss Matt.

Liam

Its mostly just him talking about the Barilaro saga aka the last time Jordies had any cultural relevance

Austin Lee

Felix keeping the ASOIAF streak of episodes going.

Emma

Lol. Thank you

Agent Grange

A lot of Australians in here glibbly saying that shilling for the Australian Labor party is the same as shilling for centrist liberal American Democrats, like you don't have socialized healthcare, basic gunlaws, and rudimentary food safety standards. I know y'all other anglophones just want to feel included, but be fuckin for real for a moment. If America had any of the basic vesitgal bits of even a flawed democratic socialist labor movement with a passing sense of a common good I'd probably be more of a electoralist too.

Mr Boof

This is so fucking lame. Barilaro hasn’t been in office for half a decade. The current Labour NSW government (which Shanks dickrides) is equally beholden to property developers but also lead by a hardcore Zionist who couldn’t contain his glee when his militarised police force cracked the heads of pro-Palestine protesters during his personalised guided tour for Isaac Herzog. Get someone who can speak to current events in Australia.

Maddy

My mind immediately went to the pod save dudes but they’re arguably further to the left than he is lmao

Twerk dancer (edited)

Comment edits

2026-10-27 12:00 Wait, so Friendlyjordies is just Matt Yglesias with a tradie accent and better thumbnails? Australians, please fight below—I’m taking notes. 😭
2026-08-12 07:14

NitroDickclapp III

Damn you're right. Lol. Well actually Favreau worked for a think tank that fought medicare, Jordies hasn't done that. He's just a big mouth with dogshit standards.

Jules Wang

get the boy boy lads on

NitroDickclapp III

I was there too dude, he was my entry point into politics in our part of the world. I know enough now to know you don't want anything to do with this guy, he's poison.

Timm

Boonta Vista good content but I find them a little hard to listen to. Then again this is chapo so who cares.

David Blumenstein

Second Purplepingers as Chapo guest. Ben Eltham would be a good get also

Tim

Dear lord this was not a good decision Perhaps you should have David Hughes or Karl stephanovic on next??

birdguy123457

This guy really takes the scenic route linguisticly

Goff Costello

Totally fails to understand or explain the rising popularity of One Nation - a lukewarm squeamish centre-left Labor gov and a totally irrelevant LNP

Roland

Coming up next week: Neera Tanden!

Chris

Or Lamestream / Ette. Lots of better options that don’t back Mossad Minns

jer

I just dc about Australia tbh

Borice 19

Man, you know it's dire when they have to let one of Felix's friends on.

Emma

But we also have actual left parties with elected reps, so there is no reason for anyone to throw their lot in with corporate parties like Labor unless that’s what they actually believe. I say this as someone who grew up in the US btw

John Johnston

Eyy firsr guy from our country on Chapo and it’s the aussie version of that dude from John Oliver

Malwyn

Was Ethan Klein not available

Cindy Carrot

the southern hemisphere is kind of like the temperature bomb

Agent Grange

This is honestly the most cogent and compelling explanation I've seen, and makes sense. I think parliamentarian systems like most electoral politics still compress everything down to binary party choices but at least there is a structural mechanism for creating coalitions out of minor political parties. Meanwhile America has never had ideological parties, only opposing geographic patronage networks. Edit: I was informed Australia also has a preferential voting system, had no idea. I bet that's nice.

Joachim

A Neera Tanden episode would slap😅

Tims

I know these guys have joked about knowing nothing/not caring about Australian politics but having this ALP shill on is insane. The complete lack of research into this guy is so fucking lazy its crazy.

Mr Boof

Also love Shanks skirting past the ‘not enough to fill a convention centre’ line at the beginning when an actual convention centre was in fact filled by Sydney’s Zionist community watching the Israeli president and said Labor premier canoodle, whilst the same militarised police force cracked heads nearby. Also present was the (Labor) government appointed Antisemitism envoy who wants to make it legal to cut funding to any educational institute which allows protest encampments. Cool Sam Harris quote though! Haha bruz what a clown!

Tims

The lack of research is insane. Its quite frankly disrespectful to their Australian listeners

Tims

Barilaro is literally a property pest inspector now. The man's a political non-entity

Tims

They're clearly too lazy to look anything up

Tims

The guy whose a pest inspector now?

Declan Kennedy

ah yes the Barilaro saga where Jordies went out of his way to extremely publicly answer the question "can you be racist about Italians" in the most affirmative way possible

Herpderp_258

Sorry, but this ain't it fellas. Credit where it's due, Jordies put his neck out on the line for his shit with NSW government and has been fucked by the Australian media for doing some bare minimum reporting that they should have been doing all along. All of that was relevant 5 years ago, since then he's decided to dick ride Labor governments and give excuses for them absolutely dropping the ball on any number of issues and then punch left when anyone calls him out. Not everyone is going to be happy with whoever you guest, I understand that and don't envy you, but you could've done better than this.

generic.hybridity

Just want to add to the chorus of disappointment on this one fellas. But I get it. We're the arse end of the world.

Dartwave

As an Australian leftist there's no way I'm listening to this. Baffling guest who has nothing but hate for our actual Australian left, which includes elected representatives far to the left of this centrist hack.

k v

I like Mamdani and Al-Sayed but I think you should still address them both being US imperial fuck shits when it comes to Cuba and Maduro. It's unacceptable and racist, even if its just centrist rhetoric.

Zac

Can't believe Chapo had this loser on. Do some research Chris! They burnt his house down and killed his producers dog because he jacked off in an MPs house. Meanwhile the Australian Labor Party is basically a criminal syndicate.

Andrew Llewellyn

Thinking about it, Jordies' closer equivalent would probably be the streamer Destiny , in terms of being ride-or-die for our centre-right party and punching left at every opportunity, rather than for any of the sex pest stuff afaik.

Kez, please hold me

I listened to the episode, and my main objection is actually that... It was boring. Friendlyjordies is everything everyone else said here (shitlib), but he can be entertaining sometimes... this was also just awkward though. Long winded stories that go nowhere, no real comic relief other than when Felix and Will jump in... And not enough on Pauline tbh.

Daniel Bryan

Not listening to what Jordies has to say. Get someone who's not a complete flog

Cardboard

rip headphone users

Robin Cameron

You got the wrong Jordan on! PurplePingers (Jordan van den Lamb) was right there!! Friendly Jordies is an Australian PodJohn.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

Gonna have to skip this one. I’m pretty floored they didn’t look more into him as a guest.

Herpderp_258

Agreed. The idea that people are turning to One Nation just because of Gina Rineharts money and not also because of the neoliberal turn of the Labor party is just baffling and ignorant.

MRSAful Fate

Eucalyptus? You can lick this!

Koshin

Literally a right wing labor supporter

Edward

Not at all surprised that a significant number of your long-term Australian subscribers won't even listen to this.

Zach

German is NOT Englisch. JFC I WISH IT WAS.

Zac

Also New South Wales isn't in South Australia. Look at a map Will 🤦🏼‍♂️

Koshin

He straight up drops a sam harris reference and keeps it moving like that shouldn't send up a massive flare

JD Nonce

An Instagram account I see posts from most often is of a koala who lives in a zoo here in Japan and it’s mostly him chilling in a tree, very frequently with his balls on full display, and sometimes with his finger in his asshole while scratching his balls. It’s charming

Roland

Yeah goddamn the more I think about it.

Roland

He’s a Jordan Peterson defender too

Joni Boyd

Yo this guy was kinda rude to me while I was working door for his show at the rosemount hotel in perth western australia

Joni Boyd

Okay i don’t love the guy but when did he jack off in an MPs house wtf

Joni Boyd

Yess up the battler pod

Seth Baker

His foreign policy views are decent but anything else ranges from fucked to even more fucked. He idolises Tony Robbins and Jordan Peterson, tells you all you need to know

Biscuit

Labor is the only party controlled by, and fighting for, the unions ergo the working class. You all need to get off your algorithms

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

Fuck I would have loved them to get Osman Faruqi on. Especially given lamestream's coverage of One Nation lately. This was such a colossal miss

Zac

He bragged about having sex in Barilaro's holiday home. I assumed he meant masturbation because he is unfuckable and he looked like he was having some kind of BPD meltdown.

Joni Boyd

Wait the air bnb? That rules tho

Tyler

And fucked it

Zac

I can see how people might think that but it's just such a bad idea. Hence getting your house burnt down and getting your producers dog killed. To be fair Chapo are ok with dogs being put down. Hasan Piker using a shock collar on his dog etc. This podcast has gone to hell.

Joni Boyd

Shoulda been Tom Tanuki 😒

Caitlin-Kangaroo

Wasn't pleased with Mr. Jordies being the dude to talk to. 🤦‍♀️ He had the gall to refer to the Labor Party as the "workers"party. Lol it's not been the workers party for a long fucking time now. 😭

Zac

Lol what did he do

Mungo Franczak

Never seen the chapo audience more united

Quadabyte

Oh boy, I hope someone got FIRED for this one... You better hurry up and apologize on X.com for this blunder...

JahTea Blum

In Denmark bikers have a special status. They call them «rockers» and they were instrumental in establishing and running the Christiania freestate in Copenhagen (though both the bikers and their «pusher street» have declined in the last 20 years)

Zac

All time worst Chapo episode. Made me want to scratch my eyes out.

Reuben Taylor

Genuinely embarrassing and shameful guest selection guys. Let's get contrapoints back on while we're on this bullshit!

Dec

Genuinely schizophrenic listen as an Australian. Like a maga American explaining life in North Korea. Completely divorced from current reality.

Andy Arnette

I cannot get this episode to show up in my RSS feed. Any help to fix this would be greatly appreciated

Zac

At least they know how to have conversations.

Zac

Imagine being on a date with him...

Yassquatch 💃 🫈

Your rss app is doing you a solid hiding this dreck from you

Tims

Thats nice but their policies are still neoliberal dogshit. Their connection to the unions is little more than a patronage network at this point.

Zac

It's more that he doesn't know how to have a conversation. He usually just talks at you. Chapo is para-social but he is just anti-social.

Koshin

His foreign policy is to vote Labor and like it

Joe Quigley

Virgil Texas was arrested at a bar in Wilmington, DE the other day

Daniel G.

Is this not on the RSS for anyone else?

Biscuit

Neoliberal dogshit 😂 bro what do you want from them? It’s been wall to wall headlines for months after they tweaked tax rules against the interest of property hoarders a little bit and you want them to go full communist

Reece Coren

remember when this podcast used to be good

Christian Johnson

Hearing about 🇦🇺 makes me want to hear from a Chapo guest i haven't heard in a long time: Matt Brady, whatever happened to him?

Christian Johnson

Stannis Boratheon 🔥 his daughter at Melisandre's urging for the Lord of Light to grant him the Iron Throne?

jer

Yeah lmk when commenting on the Chapo Traphouse Patreon episode thread counts as solidarity buddy

T

Awww biscuit if you genuinely think those limp Swiss cheese rules are actually pissing off property hoarders I've got a bridge to sell you. They're pretending they're pissed off but in reality they're still absolutely fine with it.

T

Who?

T

I have no idea who that is

Tyler

Osman is our 1000% our best and most qualified candidate for Chapo's Australia Correspondent

Alberto García

Friendlyjordies? A "centrist" neoliberal charlatan? No thanks

A

Was lots of love and solidarity after Matt’s stroke, but yeah, would say this is a tight runner up

Mr Boof

You might get to have sex with him in an Airbnb and it’ll make for a very cool story to tell on a podcast later on.

T

Osman or one of the Ettes would've been legendary. Or JordyPingas.

Caitlin-Kangaroo

Literally Albo calling royal commissions a waste of money, when it's asked for one into DV. But not when the Zionists are feeling sad.

Ted Lavender

30 seconds in and wondering how Will did the Australian equivalent of saying “we’re going to Texas to discuss Florida politics”.

T

Is the democratic socialist Labor party in the room with us now? ALP are only to the left of the dems on one thing (Medicare) because they know they'd get dragged out and murdered in the street if they fucked with Medicare, just like in the UK with NHS. But they've kept all the right wing LNP party's gutting and funding freezes of Medicare so they've got that classic neoliberal ratchet effect going nicely. Not to mention their sudden focus on "left wing terrorism" and being the literal first political leader to glaze Trump after he bombed that little girls school in Iran (completely unbidden, by the way, the PM just wrote a fucking love letter to Trump for shits and giggles). I know the dems suck but holy shit you've got no idea how fucking spineless and craven the modern ALP is.

T

Pretty sure he has a partner but he keeps her quite secret because he's worried the same people who came for him would go after her.

T

Haven't been this pissed at a podcast guest since Bad Hasbara literally had a liberal Zionist guest.

Timm

Boonta don’t quite have the chapo juice but I’d rather them over this any day.

Esteban Noel

Gormless center-right Jordan Peterson fan as a guest? Unsubscribe.

Gabe Juniper

At this point I'm choosing to reframe 'skip chapo' days as 'catching up on trueanon backlog' days. They've been happening more often recently.

Zac

Nah. Who could stand him? He's probably a virgin.

I was saying boo-lania

Who are the people/parties socialist Americans should be supporting? Genuine question I'm only realizing now i know kack shit about Australian politics

I was saying boo-lania

Since we're getting educated on who's who in Australia what are this crowds thoughts on the juice media?

Zac

Bragging about having sex in someone's house is something a 14 year old virgin would do..

Biscuit

What party do you want instead? How would they a) actually get elected and b) be better for material conditions of the working class? Please educate me 😆

Biscuit

To all the people lining up to shit on the ALP in the comments, What party do you want instead? How would they a) actually get elected and b) be better for material conditions of the working class? Please educate me 😆

Thomas Stevens

Read all the other comments not knowing anything about this guy and Australian politics and thought “hey maybe the episode is still good.” For anyone else wondering the same: it isn’t.

the dumpist

Wait a minute, this isn’t James Donald Forbes McCann

ab

Might as well have David Pakman on

RD Productions

My estimation of Chapo Trap House as a podcast just fuckin plummeted

Chris

Waking up to a buzzing hornets nest of furious Australians

Chris

You should have had on a real Australian leftist like Toecutter

RD Productions

Viserys pulling out a blade in Vaes Dothrak

Brendan James Martin

Purple pingers, there's questionable origins about the party he's in, Victorian Socialists. Otherwise the Greens are anti-zionist and unobjectionable

Madeleine Peterson

every second episode has will fantasizing about killing poor rural people (while living in a city where the cops protect zionists committing war crimes) and now they're just platforming whatever annoying neolib

Peter Howe

I'll pass on this one mate.

HuffingGasInTheShed

They have Dave Weigel on regularly. It’s not special disrespect for Australians, oftentimes the journalists they have on aren’t as lefty as the rest of us

Twerk dancer

So Destiny in a hi-vis vest? Somehow that clarification made the comparison even worse 😭 Any third nominations?

Jack Patterson

This guy isn’t a journalist, he’s an edgy comedy YouTuber who runs cover for our Starmerite Labor Party

HuffingGasInTheShed

Where is all this energy when that have Dave Weigel on? He’s a fucking republican with shit takes and shittier taste in music. I just scanned the comments on his last episode, not a peep about his being a centrist lib turd.

Rock Wallie

They’re fine - they’re probably not meant for you

Robert Armstrong

Apparently this dude sucks shit in general, but my specific beef is the constant hand slapping and opener laughs at anything remotely funny being said. Sycophantic.

angel

Lmk when Katherine is back, I guess. Skipping this one.

Rock Wallie

He has a kind of posh accent

UnderN0verIt

jesus, shanks was rimming for an hour straight

Jack Patterson

I’ve got about 9mins left and thank god he hasn’t done much of his usual shtick, which consists primarily of ethnic accents

Rock Wallie

None of that is thanks to modern Labor - it’s thanks to preferential voting imo - even the teals do more to slow down the erosion of our social services

CS

New challenger to girl gods mantle of worst Chapo guests

Rock Wallie

It makes a massive difference

John

Not listening but not because of what all these people are saying about the guest, but because I don't care about Australia or Australians.

Twerk dancer

So Matt Yglesias with a posh accent and tradie cosplay? The lore keeps getting worse 😭

Doug Cartel

America is literally just a giant casino with nukes

Rock Wallie

Haha no he says the teals are our version of the dems - you can hear him trying out a talking point - I don’t disagree they are libs but they are genuineindependents - I’m sure he’ll get his pay for this effort

Madeleine Peterson

hardly. they've had that ettinger child on several times

Rock Wallie

West would be a great guest

Rock Wallie

Is he!!! I’d believe it

Madeleine Peterson

to be fair, having your house set on fire by political mafias is a pretty good story. that's the part of all this that's understandable, i think. someone watched his youtube vids and sent him an email, didn't really think to vet him

gav

Guys I have a preconceived notion of the guest and IM PISSED about it

XvinzXznivX

BIG DAY FOR RED THREAD FANS

Rock Wallie

He was widely believed to be being paid by Labor before all that wasn’t he?

Rock Wallie

The greens have better policies and they are more straight up. You don’t have to love them

driftwood

Crikey! this ones getting cooked like shrimp on the barbie

Kyle Smyth

Chapo release an episode on time challenge, difficulty level: IMPOSSIBLE

hrtzgod314

"they already had one guy who had mental disabilities in jail, and I'm glad he's in jail he's a thug" most left-wing Australian

Elspeth Hunt

Thanks, was having the same question. Too bad.

CJ

I will also not be listening. Not because of his politics, but because of his nationality.

wildman

Skipping this one because they didn't say that Felix's house also burned down when he was a kid. Have some integrity.

Oliver Clozov

if i lie and say i listened to it will you shout me out on the next ep

Rock Wallie

Is he paid to shill for them?

Matt Macnab

I was somewhat interested in this guy after someone tried to kill him, but it didn't take long to find videos of him crying over Arabic Australians attending the funeral of Hassan Nasrallah.

ST Promotion

"Matt Yglesias, but without the edge" terrifying

Fernslinger

What’s the difference between Australia and a pot of yoghurt? Leave a pot of yoghurt in the sun for 200 years and it’ll develop a culture!

absoluteboi

im just gonna take a hint from the ratio and skip this one

ST Promotion

I don't love this reactionary turn from Chapo where they insist that Australia is a real place

Doug Cartel

He does trash the usual Chapo targets so I guess he meets minimum reqs for the show to talk to him, or something idk

Plarp

Gonna go listen to old clips of Matt on Youtube and remember better times.

Chris

Esteeming a podcast was your first mistake

Tim Mullen

Episode was late cause they recorded on upside down time

ST Promotion

Would be better than Tom Myers

Dee Rubes

Had no idea who this guy was. Enjoyed the ep, then came here to realize what a shit he is and I condemn his appearance. Feels like having my cake and eating it too.

Rock Wallie

Do you feel the same way about British labour?

Rock Wallie

They’re waiting to pick up some bargains - they always win - it’s owner occupiers with big mortgages tha will lose out

Xi Jinpenis

Chris so eager to police the comments he missed the excellent sopranos joke.

Rock Wallie

We have preferential voting here which makes it more realistic for smaller parties to challenge and wield some power in parliament.

Rock Wallie

The greens would be bettter for material conditions of working class because they propose to tax gas exports for one, plus housing reform, improving health care and other tax reform

Rosie Stuyvesant

Yay I’ve subscribed to both! Sure it will be banger. Hope the American misery can still be staved off! Thanks for making this happen.

O Glack

How Tom Ballard has any cred as a leftist with as many rape allegations as he has against him I will never know. It's a blight that cunt still has a career

Alex

Don’t like Jordies but this was fine. Glancingly mentioned the ALP so not much fellating and stuck to the legitimately crazy Barilaro story and Hanson and Rinehart being odious. Find it funny that people are complaining about him being a Labor shill (fair) and then saying it should be a Greens shill. Says a lot about the options in Australia!

O Glack

I take it you're not aware of the Tom Ballard rape accusations. They have been weirdly well hidden tbf

Judyan

Why isn't this Ep showing on my feed?

Chris

Sorry for trying to riff :(

Peter Flynn

Guys calm down this is clearly just Felix doing an accent.

Simon Maraya

Cersei reinstating the Faith Militant?

Michael Warren

A lot of yanks here crapping on the ALP when, you know, thanks to them we have compulsory paid annual leave, paid personal leave and paid parental leave etc. Keep up the struggle, y’all! Maybe you’ll get two weeks paid annual leave for every American worker by 2040!

Michael Warren

The Greens are not a serious party. When Canberra had Greens ministers one of them would call into cabinet meetings from a local skate park while she was rollerblading.

Michael Warren

Who introduced Medicare again? Read a history book.

James

lmao what on earth are you guys doing

C. Andrew

Waiter, my bowl of podcast politico edutainment is cold! This slop isn't to my liking, make me another!

David Larisch Frazer

I get why people dislike him for his libbed up takes, but this was genuinely a fun episode and a banger in my book.

Cory Gipson

Been an interesting week for Chapo between the lazy dismissal of abolitionist movements and booking an Australian guest that actual Aussie leftists seem to despise.

Whistle Dog

You can take the boy out of Australia, etc…

Shep

Totally agree - love the Boonta folks.

John Waaben

Question as an American: what’s the best video/article/evidence archive that demonstrates the character of this “Jordie” fellow

Confidence Scam

Enough Game of Thrones references already. Felix has now broken the rule of three, making GOT metaphors/jokes in the past 4 episodes and its not funny at all.

Richard Cochnar

I’ve had sex in every Airbnb I’ve stayed in. Is it not allowed?!

Richard Cochnar

Average Chapo listener: A guest I don’t like? I’m mad. Average Doomscroll listener: Ahh, another episode with a guest I don’t like. Oh well, maybe next month.

Ol-Dirty-BAStart

Every time this little rippa laughs he sounds like Stav

gav

he’s guilty of laughter

Pat

butterfield and neel kolhatker have done a bunch of crossovers so why not lol

J L

“open minded” mfs when neoliberals are spewing neoliberal propaganda: a corporation is talking 🤫 listen and learn

Pat

I think promoting Macedonian irredentism at a Greek club would have gone down better than this

Pat

Strongly suspect it’s 90% Australians in the comments

Pat

To quote Drew Pavlov: “FriendlyJordies is a Labor Hegalian, the idea that the Australian Labor Party is the sole vessel by which history progresses. He believes that all of human history is a process by which the universe becomes conscious of itself through the Australian Labor Party.”

BizarreManatees

Stepping around the controversy in here, could iust be an issue in my end, but it seems like this episode isn't getting pulled through the feed on my Podcatcher. I use Pocketcast and its still not appearing even after refreshing and deleting then readding the feed to my app.

dsm5 hinge embracist

Gina Rhinehart also trying to fuck over Alberta and force coal mines onto the eastern slopes of the Rocky mountains. No one wants this. The Alberta government playing games with a citizen led petition to stop the coal mines.

Progurt

This episode blows Chunks, a vanity project that like this podcast I'm not gonna waste any money on.

shinyfailure

My feed is choosing not to refresh today for some reason and it sounds like I’m not missing much

Henry

I dunno. Every Australian here is being very dramatic. The Barilaro thing is genuinely interesting and that’s basically all they talk about. Probably because I live in the US now I dont feel like being pro Labor Party is a big deal compared to how dire things are in the US

etienne

ermmm 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 this one isn't on the RSS feed

etienne

oh so you haven't heard about hooning then

Zac

Apparently they burned his house down because he kept clapping for no reason on podcasts.

rough customer

This was a funny coincidence as I was just watching his video about his house being firebombed a couple nights ago. Seems like everyone hates him and maybe he is a lib, but I respect someone who is principled enough to make powerful enemies. The American libs people are comparing him to definitely are not making enemies like this guy is.

Christian Bendillo

Ok obviously this guy is kind of annoying, but idk why all of these commenters are expecting an American podcast to know all the details of Australian politics.

Comrade Trev

This one isn't showing up on the RSS feed

Tyler

Story is crazy old

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

I reckon most Americans don't know who Jordan Shanks is. But more importantly, the current ALP is not the the same ALP that got those entitlements passed into law. For Americans its like comparing FDR democrats to Chuck Schumer democrats...

collin

Idk who this guest is but his laugh is awful enough for me to skip

Taylor

For others with RSS feed problems: This ep isn't showing up in the Grey Wolf Feed, but it is in the catch-all Chapo Premium feed.

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

Victoria's new Premier is Labor right. He immediately delayed parliament's work from home reforms for a year. There were no unions at the press conference. In the press release, the only comments were from corporate management from some of the most profitable companies in the country. Am I biased because I'm a trade union official (Not the CFMEU)? Probably, but fuck me, from my experience on the ground this year, we have lost the ALP as a realistic source for reform to get back to pre-Howard worker protections. They're more concerned with what the bosses want these days and that is becoming a huge problem. Shanks is a major messenger for their platform. And yes, to Rock's point, the greens absolutely are better for workers' material conditions, and Jordan Shanks considers the Greens a bigger enemy than One Nation. Its cooked; Having him on this podcast is absolutely cooked.

Matt

Came here to say this, now reading the comments I’m wondering if maybe that’s for the best?

Twerk dancer

Moving to the US really makes Australian politics look like a relaxing hobby 😭 But fair—was the Barilaro part actually worth the listen?

Nick

I thought it was on purpose at first after seeing everyone’s reactions here

Mattc83

Yeah, why are you blokes giving the Deeeemocrats such a hard go? Crikey, have a vegemite sandwich and a fosters, and go hunt some crocs, mate.

schmidley

Not that they care but I do wish they’d consider adding a 3rd mic to the dynamic, it would be more fun than ricocheting between guests

DotV2

Please get Hesse on for an Armored Core 6 episode so you can talk about Mechsploitation.

Thomas

I don’t care about the guest’s politics because he didn’t talk about them that much and the episode was entertaining

Klemke

Joshua Citarella is a vapid yes-man. He books guests that will drum up controversy among his audience, then he does cushy softball interviews where he largely agrees with them. He does this consistently. He's not "letting them hang themselves", he's throwing softballs 100% of the time to advertise to other prospective guests that he will never challenge them. Doomscroll is access journalism masquerading as alternative media.

doomcup

Maybe it's for the best this episode isn't showing up in the Grey Wolf Feed

Neal Kitterlin

Maybe at least know enough to get a guest who doesn't suck?

Justin

Did Chris swap in a version with this guy's laughter tuned down? Because there's no way you all are complaining this hard about what I'm hearing. (Not there isn't something a little corny about laughing at your own jokes. But still...)

notbrian

this comment list reads like a restaurants google reviews

Turbo Jay

This episode did not show up on the Grey Wolf Feed. I had to go to the regular one, just FYI.

Daniel Wogan

Is the backlash to this Ep the reason it hasn't been posted on Apple Podcasts lol

DT

Can someone who listened to the episode tell me if it's worth it or not? I'm choosing between this and a 4 hour critique of Tom Clancy, and if it's just right-labour apologism that goes unexamined and unchallenged then it's the video essay...

Richard Cochnar

Eh, I like it. I can definitely tell the difference when he agrees or disagrees with his guests. I interpret it more as him being from an art background where you have to trust your audience to understand that portrayal doesn’t equal endorsement. But you could be right. Either way, I was just joking about guest quality.

Tom Macrossan

Better than calling from a yacht

Andrew Davis

Shout out to Ms. Gina Rinehart, author of perhaps the only objectively terrible poem.

Mnhypnotoad

Not showing up on the RSS feed but considering the comments maybe it's a good thing

Andrew

Can we get an RSS update

Hugo

Bro his foreign policy positions are the worst part. Complete NATO proponent and cheer leader for the party which opposes sanctions on Israel, supports us and Israeli war on Iran, Palestine and have a dozen other countries

Kiel Cone

Aren’t those the same ppl who get mad when you propose a Marxist-materialist explanation for why we’re in the Middle East and not ZOG?

Sam

Ever since Felix started saying things like “podcasting is the easiest job ever, most people just suck at it”, Chapo has put together a hall of fame run of shitty podcasting. I know William can’t do it all. I think he’s sincerely the best interviewer and primary mic in the biz. But idk what the fuck happened to the rest of the operation. And even if podcasting shouldn’t be taken so seriously, it also shouldn’t be approached so lazily by people who expect and desire an audience to pay to listen to it.

Kiel Cone

[citation needed] that they want to destroy Cuba and Venezuela

I was saying boo-lania (edited)

Comment edits

2026-09-05 20:00 Bruce from Drain Cleaning Australia king or whatever because he'll FIRE THE BLOODY JET!!!!!!
2026-08-12 19:37 Bruce from Drain Cleaning Australia should've been the guest he'll FIRE THE BLOODY JET!!!!!!

Bruce from Drain Cleaning Australia should've been the guest he'll FIRE THE BLOODY JET!!!!!!

John

Get BoyBoy instead

spinalcordial

This comments section is full of hysterical crybabies. So your politics don't align with the guy 100%. Who gives a fuck. Expecting Chapo at this point to be anything other than an entertainment product is dumb. And this was mildly entertaining.

Jeffrey Epstein's Assassin

He might've been. He's always been libbed up (in the American definition of Liberal)

Semine

We just had 3 federal elections where Clive Palmer put up double what Gina is giving, and only got like 7 seven votes. Yeah ON has bot farms but it doesnt explain the jump.

Christian Hunt

Amber had Matt Taibbi on to talk about how police are noble savages proletariats in 2020, lol.

Salt M. Bank

Is the RSS broken again or did the episode get taken down

Isaac

He laughed way too hard about his friend’s dog getting killed 🥴

J. A.

Tbf hiring a Nazi to combat antisemitism is something we also do

Bruno Drundridge

My favorite thing about American outlaw biker gangs is that they're now overwhelmingly decrepit boomers, and their heyday was about 3 cumulative years spread across the 50s-70s.

Isaac

I’m halfway through and it’s really not that bad of an ep. He pretty much just acts like a human laugh track for the boys and tells the story of his feud with a politician that happened like five years ago. Thankfully, he’s not offering any of his own political analysis. I’ll chime back in if that changes in the latter half. If they were going to have an Australian on to offer actual analysis on Australian politics, I’d love to see Boy Boy on the pod.

Matthew burns

Same here. Removed and re added, RSS seems broken

Isaac

The Tom Meyers episode was worth it just for Matt’s rants. I had only been listening to the pod for a couple months when that one came out, and I hadn’t listened to very much Cum Town so I was totally blindsided by it.

Kvvvy

As a former IB student, i can confirm

ZeeBee

Not seeing this showing up in Pocketcasts for some reason. Is there something messed up with the feed or is this just a me problem?

Shuff Head

All these comments are basically, "Waaah my podcast made me listen to a different point of view!!"

Isaac

They’ve had David Cross on, Jerry Casale (the Devo guy), fucking Tom Meyers…historically, they probably average one turbo-lib a year.

Matthew Krueger

I might be too late with this advice but I'd definitely categorize this one as missable unless you're longing for an australian guest who laughs at his own jokes. It seems like a pretty solid fail in terms of getting a sense of how the left is fairing down there, and it made me miss Matt Brady. That said, it was fine. There are a couple of good moments, and I think the hullabaloo is really overblown, especially considering that I think it's okay for everyone to half ass a day at work every now and then (Unless you work in the medical field), and I think it's a bit premature to pinpoint this EP as the beginning (or continuation) of Chapo's centrist turn. The real question is where are these four hours on Tom Clancy?

Capt. cock and balls

The greens have a paramilitary wing called the Bob BrownShirts

Brock Conrad

I didn’t know anything about the guest prior to listening, came to the comments to complain about how off putting he was and looks like I’m vindicated in my dislike. Laughs at every single one of his jokes but only after the other person. He’s one of those guys.

Klemke

Do you not have standards for your entertainment? This show used to be about making fun of liberals, not having them on and glad-handing them. Some of you guys wouldn't care if they booked Jake Tapper as long as he "riffed with the boys" well enough.

RD Productions

Even the RSS doesn’t want this shit

Timm

I’m in the greens and I object to them every day. But yeah, best hope electorally in our current circumstances…

jg

damn the ep was late AND pissed everybody off

Basil

Hes kinda annoying ngl

Snac

Politics aside, God he’s such a terrible speaker. I know all the background to this stuff and I found it very hard to follow what he was rambling about. Can’t imagine what it was like for non Australian listeners. I am guessing he was invited on because the firebombing thing is a wild story but yeah he can’t get a sentence out without stumbling over his own tongue. Even the first question about US-Aus cultural similarities and differences. Like there’s so much stuff you could talk about there. But it takes him 5 minutes to make a very superficial point about how Australia is fairly homogeneous. Anyway the Midnight Oil pin drop was fun though

Henry

I would say they just shouldn't talk about it then

Henry

That's right. Marketplace of ideas

bruce

I totally hate Australia and make a vested effort to learn as little about it as possible and even I would know better than this lol see you Thursday hogs

GOOBER

Same. This sucks :(

EaZy E

Idk how to articulate how much I do not give a shit. In fact, now I hope he believes shit 10x's crazier, just to piss you off

Wesley

Everyone in the comments is acting like Jordan killed their mom

mark anderson

Never heard of this guy, but the comments actually were relatively restrained as to how truly useless he is after I listened to half the ep. He's about as intentionally funny as Tom Myers with the politics of Gavin Newsom. A girl god redux would have been significantly better.

Noah

Hearing reports of Mr Chapo being washed, I see a new episode with a new guest I haven’t heard of so I check the comments. Surely the fellow patrons vouch for this respectable person with solid left wing values

GOOBER

Should of been Greg Larson smh

Absolute Unit

Spencer you have GOT to step it up. I am also a late 20s failson and even I know jordies is a centrist hack. The average careerist DSA guy is a better guest than he is.

Tristan Damen

FriendlyJordies sucks and it sucks that you had him on.

Jellyfish English

The only benefit to having Jordan on is that the angry comments here and on Reddit have given me lots of suggestions for other local content to check out. Normally I just check out Sloan Zone (who is certainly not a leftist but well informed and genuine) and read The Guardian, but it’s sometimes harder to find deeper insight, especially with the Saturday Paper’s full embrace of Zionism.

shinyfailure

Doesn’t come up for me on either feed

Nico

Do you mean Shaiel Ben-Ephraim? He did kind of suck, but to be fair, they nailed him so hard he became anti-Zionist shortly after the interview. I'm not even joking.

Neuradink

I am fucking livid! Is this really what chapo has come to? An Australian?!

Connor Moloney

I need the Chapo lads to understand that this is the Australian equivalent of having a K-Hiver on the show. Am skipping this.

Jack

Jordies sucks it's true

Tims

I'd agree if he was journalist but as other folks have pointed out he's not. He's a youtube political commentator running "left" cover for the Labor party. We have plenty of other, far more progressive, popular, online talking heads they could have gotten

Tims

Yet they have a better policy platform than the corporate Labor party. Pick your poison.

Jellyfish English

Just a reminder that Boonta Vista has had Will on the pod before, so it could have been them.

gaylord

How tf is this still not in the rss

K'caj

Lol I had no idea who this was but holy shit did he fucking suck. Unlistenable episode. Dude can't finish a thought.

gaylord

Put it in the rss, please. Sheepdogs

The Steel Harvest

Dropping that Oilz wailing harmonica in the break... Yung Chomsky is the GOAT.

hooyie

Haha was logging on to make a similar comment. He'd be a vote blue no matter who dem in America. I ignore his ALP shill videos but the rest of his stuff is pretty good. Also he came out against the genocide in Palestine pretty early on in a couple of videos that went pretty hard and which his ALP contacts would have hated.

Tom Macrossan

They’re the only party pushing for an end to the genocide in Palestine

hooyie

I agree with you but coming to the end of the episode and it's fine. He just talks about his beef with the Italian dude and a bit about Pauline.

hooyie

Pingers would be great but he's a very serious dude so not sure it would be the most entertaining

hooyie

Haha be careful what you wish for

Seth Baker

Nah he's done videos explicitly stating Israel controls Labor and Liberal (but it's not poor Labor's fault of course, they're helpless victims), plus the video with BoyBoy highlighting Pine Gap. Also he just did essentially a Chinese propaganda video and is always promoting them generally.

Biscuit

The ALP are literally a good party and have delivered things like super and Medicare US dems would fight tooth and nail against. The greens are unelectable because the public correctly sense they have nothing to offer other than purity tests. Yes Labor do shit things but so does anyone.

Dec

Reading comprehension issue on your part.

Biscuit

Ie. they are ‘purer’ - love that for them 😆

Robin Cameron

The premise that the ALP have advantaged the working creates some tension in this question. The ALP hamstrung the unions in the 80/90s and sent them up to be broken by Howard. Elizabeth Humphrys book How Labour Built Neoliberalism is great on this. In answer to your question, David Pocock and other principled independents or small parties are highlighting the fecklessness of the ALP and the Liberals. I would suggest this the best electoral strategy until major parties bring meaningful social change.

Robin Cameron

I think we are collectively embarassed they would interview such a huge loser. Go watch his personal growth YouTube channel under his own name; you'll understand.

hooyie

Osman would be great

Jack Anderson

You should have had Matt Brady on

Robin Cameron

'Different point of view' is a huge stretch. He's a mouthpiece for SDA, the conservative Catholic faction of the Labour Party that supports two state premiers and a number of senior federal ministers, including the minister for workplace relations. Hardly a perspective we've lacked in political discourse.

Maggie+Al

Like I think getting old mate on is fine the NSW ALP right are legit much more interesting than most establishment centre left factions that's why the occasionally get firebombed, but if this conversation didn't happen over a slightly pricey Chinese meal frankly you need to respect center unity voices more

Robin Cameron

Literally just ask a vaguely left Australian and they'll tell you this guy's a right-wing hack. It's a bit basic but get PurplePingers, a community housing advocate who ran for the socialists and lost. Much more on brand!

Morgan

Incredibly relevant considering just like FJ Peter Garrett seemed like he might be a mainstream hope for the left but then got subsumed by the Labor party and rendered irrelevant

Dan Creighton

Next week: the Chapo boys chat with radical economic justice crusader Peter Mandelson!

hooyie

Yeah it's a super tame episode, no diatribes against the left

hooyie

Didn't know about this pod will give it a listen

Robin Cameron

Friendly Jordies frequently talks up Jordan Peterson on his personal growth channel.

jaytaiko

Bro idc I'm just here for the vibes anyway

Tims

We have plenty of decent reps, boyboy, purple pingers, hell even serious danger. I think the issue here is Chapo being too lazy to do any research

Maggie+Al

Everyone comparing him to MattY is off base he's dirtbag Australian will stancil

rob

You cooked this one gang. Not listening to this hack. Shocked to see him as a guest.

Will Luckman

This wasn’t showing up in my RSS feed on the Podcasts app…but based on the comments above maybe I’m better off?

Shuff Head

So what? Why does every single guest need to be someone I already agree with?

Digby Tomei

Michael West Media are goated

Digby Tomei

🙏 for Stephanovic. Would be cooked 🤌

Digby Tomei

"I hate the muthafuckah!" 😂

Digby Tomei

Ping-as! Ping-as! 💜 💊

Digby Tomei

No mention of iconic Pauline Pants down RIP cry 😭 I don't like it.

Ted Lavender

Missing one day of work out of two hours per week is a bit… weak.

Digby Tomei

How dare you diminish our deeply held cultural tradition of Goon of Fortune and ripping Bucket Bongs

Digby Tomei

We form like Voltron to hang shit on flogs like FJ😂🤌

Special Adeline

Does Felix even realize that I’m going to end my life if he doesn’t talk about Kane & Lynch 1

Digby Tomei

Trueeeee, but the Oils catalog way better than anything FJ put out

hooyie

Thanks for the tip! The podcast is called yeah, nah pasaran hahaha they definitely should have had them on

hooyie

Best thing about this episode is all the lefty podcast recommendations in the comment section

Meme_maid

Americans deserve a deeper dive episode into the crack pots of auspol, but get purplepingers on, yes his politics are better, but he’s also funnier.

Mungo Franczak

It doesn’t take that much of an effort to have a conceived notion of a fucking YouTuber

HM

Know nothing about Australian politics but about 10 minutes in I was like this guy sucks. Just vibes you know?

wavylady

not to stereotype but this is a Smiling Friends ass situation

Meme_maid

Look he is hot though I’ll give him that.

etienne

idk back in my days if an ep didn't make it to RSS within an hour max you'd have Chris all over the comment section having fixed it but maybe there's something deeper with this one

Josh R

Where do you think he got the self help scam idea from haha

Special Adeline

Also he needs to have me on the K&L episode because even though I have no podcasting or media experience I am the world’s leading scholar on the Kane & Lynch gay reading

James Burkeen

Stavros has some competition for most infectious guest laugh.

Isaac

It was kind of comical that his half-baked critique was that prison abolition was a half-baked position. You could tell that he hadn’t entirely thought through it lol.

John Johnston

Tony Robbins hahahahahah, he’s such a little freak what the fuck

Goff Costello

Also so much more to say (lament) about our insane billionaires and the insane defamation cases they have funded. Chapo listeners deserve to know that we have our own, even more violent and stupid Eddie Gallagher

John Johnston

Urgh gross i bet he’s avoiding bringing them up to save his exposure or something. Tony Robbins-ing 24/7

Matthew Krueger

Well, you know what they say: if you want something done right... Purple Ted's Podcast Grindset would be a good name for it. You know what you have to do.

Big Creasy

y'all gotta make up for this and get Caitlin Johnstone on the pod

OG original genghis

Anybody else thinking of canceling their subscription after the last few episodes??

Wesley

I've watched plenty of his stuff. He's fine. He has a couple dumb positions, but he's mostly fine. This is just a comedy podcast, and you're taking it all way too seriously. Listen to Chapo isn't praxis. Just listen to the mildly funny man with the mildly funny accent say mildly funny things.

A Kayyy

next episode should just be talking about how bad this one was

Begginstrip

Ominous unrecognizable laugh with felix’s outro diatribe freaking me out

Zane Merritt

I had no idea who this guy was, but stopped listening when he said something like "you know, cultures don't ever really CHANGE" and after reading the comments it makes a lot more sense.

Biscuit

I like him 🥲

Biscuit

it does tho

Biscuit

Thanks for your thoughtful reply Robin I might give that book a read

Ryan Layden

Chapo head since day 1. Over a decade now and I would defend any decision except this one. Shanks is the exact kind of weird self important media hack with noxious politics that old chapo would have skewered. Maybe take some time off guys. You need a bit of a rest.

Zac

These guys making over $200k a month and they can't edit it out to save our ears. Blows chunks

Kinetics Video

So on the eve of your old man Bernard and Alexzionist Holocausto Wartez shanking Fran Hong you serve us reheated slop about Sons of Anarchy and the political vicisitudes of Dry Britain? We used to be a proper hog pen

Cbo

Listening to this episode makes me feel like a dead fish washed up on the rocks staring at the sun.

Seth Willick

Rip to my PEI friends for the "Charlestown" pronunciation.

Robin Cameron

That 9 hour outro was really rough.

Jacob Thornton

Our true blue fair dinkum down-unda queen

Jacob Thornton

If this ep was recorded a few days later you could have asked his opinion on the Vic state gov banning the Retail and Fast Food Workers Union to protect the corrupt SDA from having to actually represent its members’ interests. I can tell you though: he fucking loves that shit!

Dartwave

In terms of elected reps, the Greens is a party that contains socialists but is far from entirely socialist members - but has policies that aren't shit significantly more often than the others. Fatima Payman and David Pocock are also against Israel's recent actions, with the former being kicked out of the Labour party (that this episode's guest shills for) for voting against the party so as to vote for recognition of Palestinian statehood.

Dartwave

In terms of people they could have had on instead, Purplepingers, Tom Ballard, someone from Boonta Vista even, and there are more others have mentioned that I'm unfamiliar with that would have been preferable to the thought of listening to the cunt they've got on.

Aerin Mae

Definitely the wrong Jordan

Aerin Mae

I'm thinking that a bunch of fellow Australians I know from the outside place have coalesced in this chat.

Russell Nankervis

You didn't think to get the serious danger podcast on instead? An actual left wing socialist podcast?

Brian

David Cross is dsa

Mitchell Firman

Calling him a journalist is a stretch. He is a journalist in the same way the Free Press is a news site.

N

Boooooo

Leyland

Biscuit, I don’t think anyone here cares that you really like the new right alp.

Gribz

Is this ep just not appearing on anyone else’s Apple podcast feed?

Leyland

Pretty sure even Raygun would have more leftist credentials than this guy.

Dumb

Wooooooo friendlyjordies the labor shill and genocide stan what a get!

Ryan Layden

I installed the app just to complain about this

Leyland

Good to know the Aus Left isn’t completely decimated. There are dozens of us!

DrawingPen

Listening from Sydney. This comment section is so annoying friendly jordies is so good for Australia. You guys need to go back to your basements.

Biscuit

You’re right I love em king cause they won two elections, smashed the libs and killed two taxes previously thought untouchable. If it’s a choice between that and being ‘objectively correct’ somewhere in the political wilderness I’m taking that deal every day of the week ❤️

Wrought

Is destiny on next week?

Dr. Ron Jambo

Geez these comments are so unanimous I might make an exception and not even listen

Dr. Ron Jambo

Aso the ep never made it into the rss feed. Coincidence??

Alex Koenig

There’s a whole book for that!

Nina

Congrats on getting the most annoying man in Australia.

Extralife

Don't know anything about this guys politics or videos but was a very entertaining guest. The defamation suit and firebombing is an insane story. Always strange to encounter someone who doesn't understand American politics but knows who Alan Dershowitz is

L.

Lol I knew the Chapo base would be anti Labor morons. It's a shame the Labor party is as good as they are, the people of Australia deserve worse.

Rim Diesel

Fuck friendlyjordies.

Jake Degeneffe

Chapo Traphouse has been losing subscribers at a very consistent level, and this is exactly why. It's just a more dirt bag version of the Daily Show now. If you look at the metrics, they have literally never been less popular. Less then a year after they started on Patreon, they had more subscribers than they do now. It's a good time to leave, they clearly don't care anymore.

Ted Lavender

This is it. Between Will doing the patreon plug during last week’s free ep and having on people with a bigger audience just for the boost it feels like it’s on its last legs.

Ted Lavender

I’m busy. Ask your sister.

Wagner Koop

Also came to ask if this was just me or nah

Ted Lavender

That said, they do pull in about $25k an hour, so who knows how long they can keep up the charade while people like Patrick Carroll still exist.

Erik Bourre

holy shit people - THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT - and it was a very entertaining episode. You cant always have perfectly politically aligned guests, sometimes others have a better story.

Zac

jfc so many Gina Rinehart bots in the comments

Henry

I’d say so. A pretty shocking misuse of anti terror laws. Also touches on my favourite trend in Australian politics, stepping down for ‘mental health’ reasons because: A) I got my secretary pregnant or B) Im guilty of corruption. Barilaro managed both options at once lol

Zac

It's like being told off by a teacher but more boring.

gav

Oh okay now I’m pissed off too

United Eric Emirates

Wait, this guy isn’t cool? Half way thru the ep and thought I was learning something until I came here. Guess I’ll just go back to not giving two fucks about what goes on in Australia along w 99.9999% of every other listener bcs this guys too mean to the purple hair crew back home or whatever.

shinyfailure

Yeah this is inexcusable. I want to hear how bad this guy sucks!

Evan Scott

This wasn't showing up on the RSS feed for me, i guess there's a reason lol

Squirt-Is-Pee

Jesus Christ you guys all come off as whiney, esoteric ultras whenever anyone about as right wing as Bernie Sanders is on the podcast. Sure, I find him kind of hostile to his left flank and somewhat politically ignorant. However, if we're going to whine about Socdems like they're as bad as conservatives we might as well pack up the entire anti-capitalist project and just jump off of something high because this endless, elitist circle jerk, whinge-peddling is insufferable and worse than useless.

pizzapope

get Boy Boy on the show!!

Rory Flaherty

"Trump is the Michael Jackson of politics." In more ways then one, buddy!

Last Years Man

did Felix reread Song of Ice and Fire at the beginning of the month or what?

Daniel

don’t keep all the tea to yourself big sipper what was he getting up to

Trishtrash

I always think its a shame that Jordan can't have a meaningful conversation about electoral politics because of how much of a shill he is for the Labor Party Never mind the fact that the NSW Labor Premier has the riot squad hunt down pro palestine protestors in the street. Never mind that the construction union got deregistered in NSW for its own criminal connections which is ceding further power to developer connected crime families. Never mind that the Labor Party is replacing its union base with big business. Never mind that the Labor Party is being dragged tooth and nail into gambling reform by independent politicians maginally more centrist than them. None of this stuff ought to get discussed, lets tell circular stories about Pauline Hanson and Gina Rineheart instead of answering a question about a meaningful left presence in Australia.

Steve Manjowski

Jordan’s repeated “civilizations fates are wholly dependent on past ‘CULTURE’ (completely irrespective of the material conditions) of their ancestors” takes are annoying imo. Not saying every guest (on a comedy podcast) needs to have a strictly historical materialist approach to every subject, or that Jordan is a “bad guy” but its very apparent he’s never really thought of his (pretty decent/impressive) investigative work in a larger socio-political/economic framework. It’s most evident in the occasional weird reactionary behavior/nonsense like asking Felix to agree with Sam Harris. It’s hard to take a guy seriously when he’s quoting that goober (Harris). I haven’t seen all of Jordan’s output but from the few things I’ve seen he’s kinda big Labor Party apologist and punches left regularly. I’m no expert on Australian politics tho so I’ll leave those criticisms for the fellas from down und’a.

Trishtrash

A bunch of people just started a new socialist party but if I'm going to be honest with you, we don't have a meaningful left political force in this country. The best we get is the Greens and even then they have their internal war between the tree tories and the aggreived former Labor Left members. Some people are trying to start up a socialist party nationally but I don't know how well its going.

andrew rogers

yo how is this still not in the RSS feed

Trishtrash

Jordies' insistance on speaking in half thruths all the time so that any Americans listenting don't even need to think about the current Australian government is so lame. Genuinely tragic guest for getting a sense of what has happened in NSW (let alone Australian) politics in the last 3 years

Trishtrash

Calling it dramatic is a stretch, this is the reaction to having an increadibly lame guest on who also doesn't line up with the politics of the show and is giving a poor representation of the underlying issues of Australian electoral politics. You could call people at random from Sydney in to the show for their perspective and you'd be able to give you a more well rounded insight than this into NSW politics.

Jason Matthews

Given everything that’s going on in the world, it’s hard to explain why they would opt for this guest right now. Chapo’s been spoiled with great foreign correspondents in the past, and a Spain or Poland episode would be topical. Australia has been a fulcrum in American anti-China policies from the TPP to the submarine deal, so it would be best served by an historian and not a journalist. Or influencer, whatever the case may be.

Twerk dancer

Fair point, who would you have had on instead, and which NSW issues do you think the discussion completely missed? Genuinely curious.

Jake Degeneffe

Honestly, it's 50/50. They have been slacking so bad on getting their content up on time over the past couple of weeks, so there is that. But considering how insanely negative the comments have been on every chapo post since Katherine's last episode, I think there is also a good chance this episode never makes it past patreon.

Meadowlark-Lemonist

Wow, ya’ll really don’t like YouTube guy. Anyway, anyone else not getting updates in their podcast app? I’ve deleted and readded the RSS feed, nada. Grey Wolf and regular feed seem to be busted.

Avi

My RSS feed hasn't updated with this episode, but it looks like I'm not the only one

Valentino

An Australia episode that isn't about Zyzz? wtf?

Stim Scrounger

I just liked hearing someone complain about racist australians saying “there’s too many chinese”

Louis Pagoulatos

Weird, this episode isn’t showing up for me in either Overcast or Apple Podcasts.

Tim moore

Did anybody else not get this episode sent to their podcast app??

Joe Quigley

He got hammered and called the bartender a class reductionist. Everything went downhill from there.

Steve Manjowski

Yeah the lack of pushback on that was incredibly disappointing. An unproductive and useless “framework” to look at history, i figured the Chapo boys (who fancy themselves students of history) would push back a bit. I have a hard time thinking Matt (a demonstrably good historian capable of historical materialist analysis) would let that stand. ☹️

Matthew

Felix, are you unaware of Putin and his biker army

Ian ☀️

Mine only showed up in the Spotify integration. My regular Apple Podcasts app refuses to add this ep. Idk why.

Krystal Sinemeth

Respectfully disagree on Will being a good interviewer, for the last year or so he is always desperately trying to interrupt his guest with whatever half baked metaphor or Casino reference that comes to mind. He barely lets anyone finish a thought.

Christopher Price

I missed this one because the RSS feed hasn't been updated, so this is a comment about how that needs to be updated, and not on the quality of the guest, which

Special k

I blame twitter not working for this guy passing vetting........ no one is immune to propaganda. Posting ecosystem is ruined adn so the posters' podcast suffers as well. Like watching an artic fox digging through a trash heap

Arthur G. Pym

That’s like saying you shouldnt criticise the Republican party because they abolished slavery

Michael Warren

No it’s not. Abolishing slavery happened in 1864. Medicare was introduce in 1983 and since then the ALP have introduced things like paid parental leave. Your analogy is lazy because it doesn’t account for a significantly shorter span of time and the fact the ALP continue to introduce progressive changes.

L.

The left when someone isn't quite as left wing as then "SHILL, FASCIST, DOG" the left when that same person disagrees with them "Woah! Punching left much? What happened to solidarity 😒"

Vic Perry

I hate comedian dodge from Chapo back to Daily Show back to the MAD magazine of my youth: you cannot have it both ways. You comment on society, people pay attention, you prosper. Ducking out with "just doing comedy" is cowardly. No prob if funny. Funny however, not tedious hackbit like What if Game Throne American Dragon Washington?

B.C.

Literally have @sloan-zone on next time. He's not as left as the pod, but he's at least an earnest wonk type, not whatever hack this dude is

Dirk Kelly

There's a vast array of activists, politicians, and creators over here advocating for the betterment of global and Australian society; Jordan Shanks is not one of them.

Khalid El-Kolalli

Why doesn’t this podcast show up in my apple podcast feed? No matter how many times I refresh or sub and unsub

Ted Lavender

PATRICK CARROLL WE NEED YOU IN THESE COMMENTS, THE BOYS ARE GETTING SHREDDED AGAIN.

Isabella Dunne

I get all the hate for FJ but I thought this was a genuinely interesting reexamination of this story in the context of the big push around gambling reform right now. But I am genuinely confused…. Was he comparing the teals/independents to schumer and pelosi? With Pocock spearheading huge cultural momentum around taxing our gas and the aforementioned gambling reform? Both issues have been explicitly supported by other teal independents who have criticised Labor for being toothless on both issues. Very on brand of him to not even acknowledge the existence of the greens, but disappointing he didn’t mention Pocock who is probably one of the most broadly well liked politicians out there right now. Also would have been great for him to talk about things like Advance and their role in failing to curtail marriage equality, successful derailing the voice referendum, their attempts to disembowel the greens which alato largely backfired against the libs and dutton, and now their role in one nation and pro Israel propaganda in Australia.

Isabella Dunne

Yeah lol when I saw the name I got a kick of nostalgia from his original videos and I was pretty open minded when listening but it was fairly disappointing

Leyland

Thanks for confirming babe

K H

Dog didn't firebomb your house bro.

K H

Can you guys be more specific about what he's said or position he holds? From what I've heard he seemed pretty decent, especially from the BoyBoy video.

K H

Oh wow people are pissed huh? Can anyone explain what he's said that sucks, other than shilling for a party that's shitting the bed? I don't want to have to read a lot of links and shit, just briefly explain without forcing me to understand the intricacies of Australian politics. I have seen his video with BoyBoy and a few others and he seemed pretty cool. Is it a collection of milktoast positions or is something particularly heinous?

K H

Ok this sounds more familiar. I vaguely remember him complaining about further left positions in some context of not working(maybe for housing or something? ), but I didn't know enough about Australia do get the accuracy of the nuance.

K H

Fuckin love BoyBoy.

K H

My brain auto corrected it to Sam Seder.

K H

I thought the adult diaper convention was a reference to the idf, but maybe just a coincidence ad lib.

K H

So he was cool 5 years ago? Because I remember he seemed cool, but I haven't thought about Australia for about that long. I did see BoyBoy where he was part of it and that was cool.

TagillasBalls

It's not a 'bizarre horseshoe theory', it's an incontrovertible fact, the Greens are the sole reason we didn't implement the single most effective piece of climate legislation on the face of the planet.

Joanna Jane

Yeah but they still KNOW about it

TagillasBalls

Good god, all you people do is piss and moan on these Patreon comments. Jordan Shanks is not a Labor party shill, there is zero evidence for that claim. He has been making political content for over a decade and was actively investigated by our federal police. If even a shred of evidence that he was on the ALP payroll existed it would have been a national scandal. You people are stupid. He is a pragmatist and has done more for progressive politics in Australia than any single one of you gamer chair redditor 'revolutionaries'. Yeah, the whole wokescold purity test leftism thing is doing great guys, the Greens couldn't even hang onto their party leader's seat and One Nation is polling at the highest it has in half a century, keep harping on about how awful the Labor government is while you enjoy the incredible standard of living they have given us.

TagillasBalls

Do they? Are you sure it wouldn't be an 80 minute episode about how the Greens keep losing because of preferential voting and not because of their deeply unpopular politics and constant culture war finger wagging?

Herpderp_258

I think he was very good at shining a light on dodgy shit being done by specifically Coalition (Liberal & National) governments. They were doing some incredibly sketchy shit and the media would barely cover it, mostly because they're either state run news agencies at risk or privately owned by a majority donor in those governments. But when the pendulum swung back and Labor governments were getting into power at the state and federal level, his level of analysis and critic just was no where near the same and at times felt like he was manufacturing consent for their really bad polices or positions. We have things pretty good here in the land down und'a, but like everywhere else in the world things are progressively getting worse. Wages are stagnating, the cost of living is skyrocketing and people are getting mad about it. The Labor party has been hollowed out by neoliberalism, it is definitely not the workers party of old like he suggests. People are fed up with the big talk and then little to no action, and are electing a far right party because of it, exactly how Donald Trump got into power. The scary part for us down here is that our vessel of right reactionism is an absolutely rizz-less giantess in Pauline Hanson and the ex-deputy leader of the federal coalition Barnaby Joyce, who also happens to be the drunkest man in Australian Government, which for us is saying something.

Tvvvv

This ain’t Matt Brady

TagillasBalls

Unobjectionable only if you ignore their entire record as a party

TagillasBalls

Anyone who doesn't specifically agree with the commenter's views in their entirety is centre-right btw

Liam Alexander

Hasan piker is the current equivalent. COMPROMISED

Biscuit

Boomer brain ‘everything I don’t like is communism’ but make it online left (everything I don’t like is centre-right)

Nick

No Mr. Inbetween talk, be better

Henry

That sounds very dramatic too. We didnt get the australian guest we wanted on our podcast, live to see another day.

Nathan

Agree with both of you, I don’t think he softballs them but he also doesn’t push back enough, his brand of interviewing is to let them talk themselves into a corner. After a while, the people you might disagree with usually come off as incoherent and have insane politics and the commenters seem to recognize that (ie Grimes, Aella, Dasha, Mike Israel, etc)

Steve Manjowski

when “purity politics” is not wanting to associate yourself with powerful officials green lighting or ignoring a modern day genocide. You’re taking the piss mate.

opticpath

It took a while, but it came through on RSS with the new episode yesterday

I was saying boo-lania

When Democrats or ASL or British Labour call Green/Socialist ideology unpopular they're just telling you they like fascist ideology more

TagillasBalls

Oh so it's just posturing then? No actual refutation of a single point I said? Enjoy your moral high ground, will you be returning your Medicare card by mail or should they organise someone to get it? Throw the baby out with the bathwater because an Australian company made a box of tissues for the IDF. Where do you think you live? Do you think Netanyahu has Albo at the top of his call list? Do you think some meaningless wag of the finger at the IDF is going to save a single Palestinian life, or is it just going to make the narcissistic manchild POTUS retaliate and make things materially worse for us? You don't have to make these kinds of decisions because neither you nor the people you vote for have to ever confront reality or attempt to actually manage these problems. Keep it up guys the Greens are doing great.

Rock Wallie

In our system, small parties - usually the Greens, sometimes independents - can get a few people in, and negotiate for improvements to policies Labor is trying to get through. Like they did on an income tax changes a couple of years ago.

Maxfield J Hannum

When Felix did the first players club, I was replacing a bunch of loose tiles in my kitchen late into the night, and it was so pleasant to work on some bullshit like that while two guys talked about something like metal gear solid

Daniel

Fuck this episode and this guy.

Rxk Lenderman

From everything I can tell, Contrapoints might actually be further left than this guy

Unrealistic Attempt

Should get the Battler guys on - way funnier, smarter and not ALP, genocide washing shills

Shiv

Cannot conceive of a better Oz accent for delivering the phrase “hissy fit.”

Shiv

appreciate this take

Greg Mackenzie

Wow, an interview with the Australian centre-right's most annoying weenie! Jordies is a paid shill who claps like a seal for the careerist in the Labor Party who brought you such hits as kneecapping the union movement, selling off public utilities and banks.

Biscuit

I think there's some weight to jordies' critique of the federal crossbench that their political marketing strategy relies on always maintaining an anti-labor stance which ultimately does more harm than good

Jack

Muscle cars, mullets, rock & roll are some cultural similarities

Herpderp_258

This response completely misrepresents the critique. The issue isn't whether Jordan Shanks is "on the payroll", that's a strawman. The critique is about material effect. When a popular figure consistently directs their energy toward attacking Greens voters, progressives, and anyone to their left while pulling punches on the ALP, the functional outcome is the same regardless of formal affiliation. It's about whose interests are served. The "investigated by federal police" point is bizarre. Being investigated by state security isn't a badge of leftist credibility, it means you annoyed the state, which plenty of right-wing populists have also done. That doesn't make you progressive. The "pragmatist" defense is classic Labor triangulation. Pragmatism that constantly moves rightward isn't pragmatism, it's concession. When every "pragmatic" compromise is made by the left while the right never has to compromise, that's not pragmatism, that's capitulation. The Overton window shifts right because the "pragmatic left" keeps legitimizing right-wing frames. The electoral argument is self-defeating. The Greens losing a seat and One Nation rising isn't evidence that leftist critique of Labor is wrong, it's evidence that Labor's strategy of chasing conservative voters isn't working. The ALP gets the lefts votes through preferences while not winning any of the right. The solution isn't to shut up and fall in line, it's to offer a genuine alternative that actually mobilizes people. And the "standard of living they gave us", Labor didn't give us anything. The standard of living Australians enjoy was won through decades of union struggle, public healthcare campaigns, and grassroots movements that Labor often resisted until it became politically inconvenient not to. Claiming credit for that while overseeing wage stagnation, housing unaffordability, and climate inaction isn't progressive, it's liberal gaslighting. Leftism isn't about "purity tests" It's about strategy, and history shows that holding the center's feet to the fire is the only thing that ever forces them to actually deliver.

TagillasBalls

There are several people in the comments on this thread that have directly accused Jordan of being paid by the ALP, that is a claim for which there is precisely zero evidence, and you are not in a position to tell me what 'the' critique is. His investigation by the feds is not something I am claiming gives him 'Leftist credibility', whatever that is. It's the demonstrable fact that if there was any credible evidence he was on the ALP payroll established during the investigation, the reactionary right who own the police would have ensured it was a national scandal. This is not a tenuous leap to make considering how hard they latch onto comparatively minor gaffes the ALP DOES make. The ALP are not continuously moving right - except at the NSW state level, fuck Chris Minns, I will concede that point all day. They continue to represent the working people of Australia, you just have a very insular view of what the working class in Australia want and believe. The median Australian worker isn't even a member of their union. Your (and my) views are incredibly fringe, as is proven time and again by the continued rejection of even the good policies the Greens offer at federal elections. I don't care if the leftist critique of Labor is wrong, I personally agree with it, but more than that I care if it's working, and it isn't. An ideological victory is utterly meaningless. The Australian public have shown Labor time and again that the appetite for even relatively tame leftist policies gets them a decade in opposition. This is an incontrovertible fact. I don't like it, I don't think the world should operate this way, but it does. The ALP chose to take the objectively correct action of scrapping negative gearing and CGT discounts, a leftward policy by any measure, and it has resulted in months of some of the most heinous and blatantly spiteful media hit pieces we've seen since Gillard. Australia is simply not the country you think it is. The "decades of union struggle" you're describing are basically the entire reason for the ALP's continued existence as the political arm of the union movement. True, they succumbed to McCarthyism and vanquished the communists in their ranks, but to act like the ALP played no role in things like Medicare and superannuation is absurd to the point of roleplay. Wage stagnation and housing affordability are the direct result of LNP policies that they were able to make reality over decades because of the continued rejection of progressive alternatives offered by the Labor party. "Climate inaction" is an absurd claim to make from someone defending the Greens, when the Greens are the sole reason the ETS, the most progressive and hard-hitting suite of climate policies on the planet at the time, were not inacted because the Greens as usual bottled the whole show because it wasn't progressive enough. Congratulations, instead what we got was a decade of LNP governance and regressive climate policies. Leftism is absolutely about purity tests when the Australian public keeps telling us no and we keep not listening. Harm minimisation is a thing. Materially improving conditions while ensuring the coalition - whose sole reason for existing is to crush union politics - remains in opposition is also a thing. We don't get to live in the Australia we want. The Australian working class is vastly more conservative politically than either of us would like it to be. Ideological proselytising won't change that. I would rather the ALP be in power than any of the feasible alternatives. I would love it if Australia had a more leftist alternative that could foreseeably take power but I don't live in that world yet. I don't consider it practical to achieve that goal by constantly shitting on the only party that even vaguely looks progressive without acknowledging a single positive outcome they achieve. The entire right wing media artifice does that for us. I don't see any reason to contribute to the dogpiling. It's one thing to say 'medicare is awesome but let's improve it'. it's another entirely to say 'Labor won't put dental in medicare because they hate working people and don't want their teeth to be healthy and are in the pocket of big dental', which is the kind of visionary commentary you get from the greens and such.

Lauren

he's a paid shill for the pro-genocide centre-right party, whose leader is comparable to Keir Starmer. Finally there's an episode on Australian politics and it features someone I'd rather stick a fork in my eye than listen to for analysis. This guy argues against any economic redistribution which would actually stop the rise of One Nation just like the Democrats or UK Labour. And he is a PAID CONTENT creator for the pro-genocide neoliberal Labor party, which directly creates the conditions for the rise of the far right.

Michael G

It’s “Michael and Us” that’s doing the screening of Chunks, not “Important Cinema Club” 😬 y’all are plugging the wrong Will Sloan podcast

etienne

world historical pronounciation of "psychopathy"

People's Housing Project

Yea, if you listen to the ep it's clear he doesn't really know what he's talking about, politically. If you're confident and knowledgeable in your beliefs it's not a terrible episode, and I learned a little about Australian politics, but whenever he talks I get my salt lick out

Bud D.

Love seeing the hogs holler.

imogen

the b mmmm nm hmm mmm j b b

PV Hasam

And the Spanish doubloon was the main currency in Colonial Carolina

J.P. McD.

ICC is better anyway

J.P. McD.

“Standards for my entertainment” does not mean “my politics align with everything I listen to or watch”. Your entertainment consumption choices are not praxis, and it’s probably a net negative for leftist causes for you to all be whiny little scolds about it.

Matt Newham

Yes, but we also have preferential voting (which Jordan constantly obfuscates). So we don't have to settle for the shitty centrist party that he shills for.

Matt Newham

Need a history book to find an instance of labor doing something actually good.

Matt Newham

I found Boonta Vista when I was looking for an Australian chapo. But they got sick of covering politics so I switched to Serious Danger.

Matt Newham

A lot of people here in the comments saying we should thank the republicans for ending slavery

Robert Dragani

I’ve been listening to this show for 5 years and this is more environmental coverage than I’ve heard in those 5 years combined. We have similar problems here in the US that never get addressed. Non-native horses and donkeys are wildly overpopulated on public lands in the west and do an unbelievable amount of measurable damage, eating up all the vegetation that critically endangered desert tortoises need to eat, trampling their habitat, polluting springs, causing car accidents, etc. Yet it has been illegal to kill them for decades. And people in the US generally get into an uproar anytime there is any sort of thought of rounding them up or reducing their numbers.

Horse Badorties

I am an Airbnb host for a series of orgone boxes

Jeremy Hunter

Somehow a punchable voice as well

Antechinus

Yeah Nah Paseran! Lamestream. Ette Media. Tom Tanuki. Bogan Intelligentsia.

Antechinus

A fresh custard in his hand.

Paul Nakis

I like how everyone here is comparing Jordies to Matt Yglies, showing they don’t understand either of them lol