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Derek Davison & Danny Bessner from the American Prestige pod join us to discuss TOP GUN: MAVERICK. We discuss the essential dryness of modern films, how Top Gun propagandizes the insane destructive uselessness of our military, and how we can see America’s destiny in Tom Cruise’s career.

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Link to the American Prestige ep on the original Top Gun featuring Will: https://www.americanprestigepod.com/p/bonus-going-ballistic-w-will-menaker?s=r#details

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Hardcore Virgin

When he was reaching for that cotton candy at sea world analogy. That was the start

Reece Coren

biden was america’s dryest president and trump is america’s moistest

Ozzie

Make movies wet again!

Nolan

Top Gay

bitbat9

Top Gun Maverick is basically an Ace Combat movie and I’m okay with that

Thom

Anyone play the Ace Combat games? Solid dogfighting with an attention to flying mechanics but the story takes place between two warring fantasy kingdoms so they can do whatever they want. I'd watch that movie

Joe

Been waiting all week for this.

Toro Mcjohnson

Tom Cruise is a crazy mf, but he's saving cinema.

justdave

gaynger zone 😎

Clean Shirt Piggie

I never watched Top Gun. Won’t watch this one. Don’t get why anyone cares about this crap

justdave

Felix's call sign is 'whiskers'

Kaleidoscope Chameleon

We need a Chapo directed and produced mashup movie title "Top GunDam" starring Tom Cruise as Amuro Ray and Felix Biederman as Char Aznable.

Joe

Ps - Hope Felix is enjoying his week-long ayahuasca journey in Papua New Guinea. Can't wait to have him back.

J P 3

Original Top Gun was released in 1986. Current year 2022. Difference 36 years. Miles Teller is 35 years old. How old were Goose's kids in the original Top Gun?

pq

As usual, Matt spits actual fire at 34:13 and I still can't completely tell whether or not he is trolling.

Aaron Baer

Check out t hasan Johnson's black masculinist take on what the movie got right .

Robert Cullimore

No chance of Cruise getting throat cancer, definitely doesn’t eat pussy

Des Mosome

These boys. Chapo. Can you believe it? Shooting blanks. They’re not top. They’re bottom, all the way down. Hell or High Water, it’s a movie. It’s hot. It’s wet.

colin muller

Iran do / did have old F14s tho from Shah period

Alex Gullen

I haven’t watched this yet and not sure if I can stomach another movie with this world class choad in, but fuck guys - you are hilarious 🤣😂🤣

Zach Pierce

My dad loved the 1988 NES Top Gun video game. He was 40 when it came out. God love him I miss him. I finally beat it about a year after he died (2017).. Play it if you can!

Bob K Ross

Sinful if you havent watched The Hot Spot with conelly and don johnson. if you dont cum youre gay!

BigBoto

Dude! That game was awesome. Having to land on the carrier after a mission was actually stressful. I'd say I ate it about 1/2 the time lol.

BigBoto

(Felix voice) You're cool, David. You're soooo cool. You're so fucking cool.

Clean Shirt Piggie

CTH feels more & more like a troll show where the hosts hate the podcast & want it to end

Erin Kristina

I was 15 the summer Top Gun came out, refused to watch it. I still haven't seen it. I know enough through culture osmosis to understand everything, though. You've Lost That Loving Feeling still makes me want to throw up.

Daniel White

Re: Matt's point on modern myth: The Top Gun heroic warrior myth is actually the ancient myth, not modern. Marvel does play into a newer modern myth made possible by modern technology: The unlimited individual, superhuman in powers of flight, strength, tech, destruction, and so on. My two cents anyway. As always, love to Chapo for what you guys bring.

Of course

I think Chapo started with a modest hope that Hillary & her liberal friends provided easy marks, and Bernie was a path to an enhanced post-Cold War welfarism and maybe more. But then Bernie did more than lose (twice), he bent the knee. Reality was now assault-proof... and with Obama's playlists and Trump's everything, it became mockery proof, in the sense that reality itself is the self-regarding simulation that became an inconsequential joke. Also, libs are so deranged and dispirited, to make fun of them is unnecessary. ... And we're all tired. ... yay movie reviews

Conor Meaney

In fairness - it was meant to be released in 2020. But ya Gooses son sitting on the piano in the original Top Gun is atleast 5-6 years old.

Gordon Schmidt

We NEED the Nicole Kidman pre-show promo. "Because here..... they are."

William

I've heard every episode - they've had the same tone the whole way through. Sometimes you'll get a good month where they put out some of their best, other times you get a string of sub par ones.

Mike B

Silently judging y'all mfers

Warbs

Check out Memphis Belle for a bomber movie!

William

Does it matter? Pick whichever one you like better

Shiv

Take me to bed, or leave me forever!

Noms Chompski

The movies have no drip folks. Its the dripless future the Democrats want.

Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep

I was half paying attention when l heard "like Brad Pitt" and "Burnup in reentry" as "Like Brad Pitt in Burn After Reentry" and now l kinda wanna see a Coen Bros Solaris.

BigBoto

It really is amazing how much he recovered from the Oprah couch/yelling at people who go to psychiatrists debacle. Maybe people forget, but he was absolutely persona non grata for a while and EVERYONE clowned on him, but he's bigger than ever now. Shit, even dudes like Bobby Shmurda are giving shout-outs to the guy in their songs.

Dez Martin

We love Danny and Derek don't we folks

chetan kadodwala

I've heard every episode as well. You are talking B.S.

John Harwood

Gratified that CTH recognizes that sweat is the true protagonist of Top Gun. No matter the challenge, sweat triumphs.

Taylor Borie

When you have movies like Tom Cruise in them, you can’t lose

Oatmeal

Paiteintly waiting for the return of the homoerotic in the next legacy sequel Bottom Gun

Declan Hertel

disappointed Felix wasn’t here until Will channeled his spirit by dropping a barely relevant Metal Gear Solid reference

Bobby Volcano

Yeah I hate it when they spend the hour just eating lunch and watching Maury reruns and talking about how much better the show used to be and then post the ep three days late

etienne

holy loving fuck is this a almost cold open?? it's been *years*

Dante

I feel like that Indian movie RRR took all the wet because those are some buff wet men

djpmac007

Damn, those sound like Pilotwings numbers. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I landed the biplane successfully on the SNES.

KatrinaJadeHelm

Movie episode haters in a shambles after how good this ep is, bravo

Cameron

They literally say it’s Iran in the movie don’t they?

Adam Outrage

I can’t tell if I’m being trolled or if they really do have the worst taste in movies.

etienne

whoa. first direct David Foster Wallace reference ever on a mainline ep. on a pod that's obviously super influenced by him.

saaffie

Fun fact: my dad was a naval officer and he was invited to a party john McCain was throwing. There was a room that had a red parachute hung up and McCain called it the "womb room".

Michael Austin

they didn't want to do drones because in real life it's boring, but Macross Plus nailed top gun + drones because they could do insane animation for the planes

aRubes

Highway to the danger zone will forever be associated in my mind with Rob Cordrry air drumming it in Harold and Kumar escape from Guantanamo bay

etienne

this episode just kept reminding me how good and funny Hot Shots (1991) is

Zach Pierce

Tom Cruise has made sooooo many good movies. I always liked The Firm and Risky Business is a classic. Top Gun never made me think much about the US military, not did tje Golden Angels from the “Dreams” video by Van Halen

Zach Pierce

The fact you could technically go the entire game, destroy the spacecraft (?) but then eat it on the carrier landing and lose is a disrespect to all those who serve at home and abroad ! 😂

rg

nice try adam

rg

the pre movie nicole kidman cameo is essential to a good movie going experience

CJ

THREE HUNDRED GECS AT COWCHILLA

justdave

Of course the comparisons to star wars stick, it's cia created, fascist iconography- the 'force' is identity, not God, 'no emotion?'- as you swing a laser sword or pilot a death machine to destroy a children's hospital? - the 'bad guys' in star wars are 'emotional' because these bullshit psychos who hack people to death as a religion run the fukn universe! -All these 'movies' might have been written by an evil wizard is what I'm trying to say

justdave

Muthr fukn 'chosen one'

Boaz Corey

Completely agree with their take on the pre-movie advertisement hostage situation, it's SICK and it's so awkward to be sitting there trying to quietly chat with people while their eyes glaze over and their heads invariably turn towards these stupid ads. Let us have a moment of silence & darkness before the movie.

Stephen Baynham

The ideal "loving feeling" son would be Smooth, by Santana ft. Rob Thomas. Released 22 years before the movie, just like Loving Feeling.

Tobijah

You are thinking of Cumtown

Ben M

No actually Bessner is a tool

THEKILLERWHALE

And it is so unnecessary. People actually like previews. It was part of the experience. They were still making money but we were not suffering after we paid to be there. I once had my dentist put ads on while I was waiting for him on the dentists chair. A literal captive audience. And I was paying this guy. There ought to be a law!

Jon Lyons

the original one went well out of its way to avoid identifying any country (such as setting the battle in the Indian Ocean and having the enemy fighters coming from the south), and this seems to be the same fictional enemy—it's just a totally blank opponent to go up against for a big martial arts airplane adventure. They might as well be Cobra from GI Joe. They don't even call the enemy fighters "MiGs" in this one, and gave them a red eagle symbol instead of a red star (though even back then they were the fictional "MiG-28," played by American F-5s painted black, just cuz a general audience knew that the planes US fighters go up against are called "Migs"), they're just "5th generation fighters" every time in this one, despite obviously being Russian Su-57s Felons

Jon Lyons

haha loved that movie when i was little, when i was riding in the little shopping cart seat i pretty regularly pretended to be a B-17 gunner

Jon Lyons

for sure, it works so well because they really lean into Strangereal being a different, high-fantasy world, with actual princesses and forbidden castles and giant sci-fi "dragons" and shit ffs Ace Combat 5 is literally about fulfilling an ancient mystical prophecy

Dennis

I love you guys. But how fucking DARE you talk shit on Nicole’s iconic AMC intro!!! 😡😡😡😡😤😤😤