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It's Blowback Season 3 Day! The boys are joined by Traitor Brendan James the occluded producer and his comprador running dog Noah Kulwin to talk Korea, the forgotten war. Topics include: why Korea is forgotten while Vietnam never goes away, popular misconceptions of the North Korean people and government, the fruitiness of American general Douglas MacArthur, allegations of the American use of bio-weapons during the Korean War, and much, much more.

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hrtzgod314

Why is veterans capitalized?

jonah peters

uhhhhhh let me be clear: let’s fucking goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Greg

Third?!

Pedro

not today, old friend

Brendan Garcia

If I didn’t know who JFK was, or that he was the scion of one of the country’s most patrician families, and that his accent was representative of that, I’d honestly think that he must have been one of America’s most miseducated hick yokels talking like that.

Joseph Mabrey

"Ask not how you can fuck a man. Ask instead how a man can fuck you." -GFK (GayFK)

Michael S. Judge

Hey, thank you for the shout-out, Cushbomb! The only thing I'd add to that summary is that I think our ruling class, from a very early date, saw fascism and Nazism as currents to be absorbed, to be squeezed for whatever juice they could provide global capital in general (personnel, intelligence, technology, raw materials, etc.), and was never especially serious about even preventing their direct continuation, let alone "destroying" them. (Cf. Allen Dulles trying to strike a separate peace with the SS in 1944 and, at the same time, supporting Junio Valerio Borghese's overtures toward being the new fascist-regent of Italy, to the point of literally making James Jesus Angleton pick him up in his personal car and drive him out of town when Mussolini got the gas-station treatment and Borghese was scared he'd get the same.)

Michael S. Judge

Also, my favorite MacArthur fact: he made up the line "Only the dead have seen the end of war" for one of his West Point addresses, then attributed it to Plato

Shiv

what’s the best book to read about Pinky’s parenting

Shiv

You’re my brain’s 1. Michael Judge now so I was momentarily confused by the Beavis joke!

Ethan

Now they only do beatings at sec party frats. What does this mean?

T.A. Martin

So Hitler and Patton demonstrate the key to being a great and powerful leader is, you guessed it, Uncle Magic.

AKorgar

"We choose to do the thing not because it is easy, but because, we are hard."

Matthew Black

…so glad you mentioned the cheju-do massacre but that should have been given more weight, especially because of the parallel to the killings of civilians in Okinawa/Ryukyu in the US/Japan war—that North Korea sees itself as resisting a colonial legacy that goes back before the US to the US inheriting the Japanese colonial legacy—much as it inherited the French colonial legacy in Indochina.

Matthew Black

Also ‘rhi’ aaaargh. It’s an artifact of the romanization, everybody calls him i, or yi sing-Mahn.

Matthew Black

Also ‘first to break out’ aaargh wrong. Greek Civil War starts way before Korea.

Matthew Black

Also while I’m at it FDR made his reputation based on gay business in the Navy, look up the Newport Sex Scandal

Matthew Black

Also (sorry) the ‘China Lobby’ is proceeded by the ‘Japan Lobby,’ most notably represented by Reischauer and Dulles, who were interested mostly in exculpating Hirohito.

Ratbones

What was that track at the end?

Dick Wolf

As my grandma who left the south says: Kim Il-Sung was MLK and Rhee was Jesse Jackson (not sure why she hates Jackson so much lmao)

Dan

According to North Korea, their invasion on June 25 1950 was preceded by two days of South Korean bombing, and South Korea striking across the border at the North Korean city of Haeju, among other places. At the time, the South Koreans did publicly claim to have captured Haeju, which they now dismiss as exaggeration. These are the events that happened immediately prior to the North Koreans crossing the 38th parallel. Before that, in 1949, the North Koreans attest to over 2,617 armed incursions into North Korea by the South Koreans, sometimes involving a few thousand troops.

Antipaganda

That end track is incredible. Goddamn.

Lee Delsin

in south korea we call it 4.3 incident (cuz the massacre started in april 3rd) and it was denied by the government until the late 90s, after the then president Kim Dae Joong acknowledged the incident and demanded to apologize and regain the honor of the victims

Lee Delsin

south koreans assassinated military dictator and fucked that up and few decades later they impeached that military dictator's daughter and fucked that up too. south korean's are fucking moron(talking as a south korean).

David Andrews

Blowback is great. I enjoyed the first two series and look forward to the new one.

Isaac Jones

I fucking hate when podcasts overuse sound bytes and jingles (sorry Vic from Office Hours) but Chris kills it every time

justdave

My grandfather got the silver star in Korea, as a 19 yr old kid he watched his entire platoon get captured then executed while he had to watch from hiding. He was a scout and fought through the entire war. The Korean War was probably the most difficult fighting America has ever been through (no real goal, the cold, a 'confused' chain of command, sparse resources, and a trillion chinese/koreans with nothing to lose- Vietnam doesn't come close to how horrifying it must have been, fuck that awful MASH show)

Post Void

Blowback 3 score, pretty sure they it's called "American Caesar"

grimbo

Your JFK assassination series is S-tier Ligma grindset!

Chris

So glad the Blowboys bailed on Stitcher. Probably one of the worst fucking apps I have ever used. Even the track player on their website was garbage.

B2B Commuter

A couple years back I read How to Hide an Empire by Daniel Immerwahr and during his chapter about the Korean War he brought up how our total war in Korea basically Frankensteined the firebombed Japanese economy back to life allowing for the recuperation of some companies and creation of others that would later gut their American competitors in a form of economic blowback. (He went on to illustrate how Vietnam did the same thing for South Korea as well)

Nick Perri

I enjoy that Brendan and Noah sound like bizarro Will and Felix.

Peacock Jive

North Korea aka "the good one"

otis

Blowback: when the guy on the other side of the gloryhole puts his dick through

etienne

still wondering who tf has the copyrights to Hell of Presidents. there are some indications that Chris, as much as I love him, got rolled

Alexandr

"I, uhh, lemme be queer:" - Barack Obama

Demented Avenger

The description of Syngman Rhee sounds like that of the Ngô brothers in South Vietnam: they were the only guys of any stature who weren't communists who didn't collaborate with the Japanese. Carve out a weird niche and you might get a perk if your weird niche side wins.

TangiePower

Felix, please do a deep dive on our most beautiful Generals - I would genuinely love to hear all your thoughts on this.

Dark Belden

Very weird to listen to blowback and realize that you’re friends with one of the minor characters(at least so far - on ep 3) grandkids.

William

Why is there so much fucking projection with US propaganda. Also, MASH seems like the most lib show ever

Mitch H.

Uncle magic is a pathway to many abilities some might consider "unnatural"

Mitch H.

I only know JFK from clone high

Grant Armstrong

I can't seem to download episodes from you guys anymore. The icon doesn't appear next to the ep. It does appear for my other Patreon sub tho ...

GueritoDeLaBahia

Every time Blowback has a new season I’m like “oh shit I have stitcher Fa sho”

SLG

Love these Blowback soundtracks

Doug Cartel

my hunch is that north korea invaded as a response to the Bodo League Massacre but I won't try to find that out, I'll just see what these guys say.

Matt James Rich

Happy to say I recorded the whole lot using a zoom h2 so I listen to Hell of Pres using VLC media player on my phone forever and ever now.

etienne

Brendan I know you're 100% reading this for sure and will take this into account: you should team up with Yung Chomsky and make more tracks like the back end of Bury The Body And Tell No One and utterly destroy the electronic fest circuit with like, Com Truise, Le Matos, Carpenter Brut, Kavinsky, Danger, Vercetti Technicolor, etc

Doug Cartel

the CIA recently claimed Iran hasn't made any effort to revive their nuke missile program since 2004 so that kind of fucks with the Official Chapo Position on the iranian nuke program (or just the whole 'no nukes = get invaded' assumption some leftists have adopted including me) but if true, well, mad props to them for abstaining from nukes on religious grounds. First I ever heard of it. edit: also, the formation of a military junta to rule south korea does seem to line up with what Vincent Bevins said about how americans believed the only way to actually get democracy to work outside america was to midwife it through a military dictatorship, as insane as that idea is.

etienne

Iran is also a way bigger and more powerful country in conventional terms than Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc

Doug Cartel

macarthur had that goofy affectation of a walking cane until a child asked him in public why he had it, "are you lame sir?", and he didn't say a word to the kid but just put the cane in the garbage right there

etienne

yeah yeah at some point im gonna get on my r/datahoarding shit and download the eps off reddit and put them in a custom self-hosted rss feed. yes that is my way to have a fun pleasant afernoon

Jonathan Gear

A little disappointed they went with gambling ads but happy they are getting the bag.

piggy custardbuns

Watching through Madmen, and it is interesting how the show reflects our memory of Korea and WWII. Don's dirty secret is imbedded in the war and the mention of it brings him shame. It is a blank traumatic spot. He rarely references it himself or lingers on his experience. Roger, on the other hand, frequently brings up WWII as a call for respect. He enforces the memory of the war and demands that others see the present from the perspective of WWII (the Honda execs are just filthy Japs).

Michael

If you don't support the DPRK, unironically and full throatedly, you're not a communist you're just an idiot goon of imperialism. Full stop.

Michael Branes

you guys keep making me go back to dire straits!

Doug Cartel

Yeah, I cant imagine how much of a nightmare it would be to invade iran with a topography like theirs

THEKILLERWHALE

Cannot rec this enough. Even their website is bad. They suck.

THEKILLERWHALE

Mash (show) >>>>>>>> Mash (movie). COME GET SOME!

Jordan Sayre

Anyone else a little annoyed at the constant and unrelenting “you know” tic?

cashedtrapezoid

Yeah that’s a thing to add the R , idearr, saunerr, hey mar!

james

why’s Brendan always sound like he’s about to cry

No

Shout out to the People's Volunteer Army led by the people's hero and all time pimp Peng Dehuai.

Martin Ross

Blowback Season 4: what actually caused Brendan to leave Chapo

Alex Gullen

The Hunters by James Salter is a great read.

blackFFillip

they’re fully committed to never improving their delivery

Mitch H.

I don't think my throat is big enough for Kim Jong-un's huge hog.

etienne

Beavis and Butthead do Weimar Germany

orc

Speaking of allegations of chemical/biological warfare during the Korean War, get Nicholson Baker on the pod! And only ask him questions about his erotica

Sethparr79

Not enough pro North Korea on the internet.

etienne

Felix losing it at McArthur failing at antisemitism ... that's just the sheer unadulterated joy I was missing from this podcast

Steve D

For the American elite, the capital is the juice

K U

The funniest thing about this is the Nazis had the EXACT nickname for Roosevelt! I lost it too.

NewTooshFatoosh

I highly recommend watching Lovecraft Country for a historically aligned depiction of the napalm bombs in North Korea.

etienne

you motherfuckers constantly whining about very minor professionalism and production issues: I implore you to go listen to NPR or 99% Invisible and stfu

Joseph Mabrey

25 bucks to listen no thanks. That's an insulting amount tbh

Jonathan lees

Check out journalist Wilfred Burchett take on Korea war he reported from the other side of the 38th

blackFFillip

look at this fash pushing Nazi Public Radio and 88% Indivisible

calvin kilby

wow $25 to listen to a professionally produced podcast about the korean war? thanks but i'll just peep the bibliography...

calvin kilby

it's a story about how the us armed forces committed a devastating blitzkrieg on the korean people in an attempt to wipe them off the earth? might have something to do with it

justdave

My favorite MacArthur bit was that he would wear a kimono 👘 while planning and commanding the war against Japan, to the point where his staff would write diaries about seein his wang- it reminded me of my really poor best friends dad from middle school, who would also wear one. He was just day drinking and playing Nintendo though

calvin kilby

there's a reason why dr. king was murdered

Myrmec

Cuts off at 1:16

Lewis Vaden

The birth of dark uncle magic

Chachalupa

The 684 film is called Silmido (sheel mee doh). Watch it, it’s good

Budget Hireling

Just want to say, your platform helps creators! I am a blowback listener now, halfway through Iraq and it's an excellent series!

Bobby Volcano

It is cool whenever a show gives musicians an opportunity to make or share some music. Congrats on season 3 of pretty much the only pod I recommend to people on the regular

Dinosaur

Blowback is better than Chapo and Brenden made the right move dropping the dead weight. Good to see Chapo still has him on for clout chasing. jk I love all of you and thank you for introducing me to Brenden, Noah, and Blowback

Hector Jaime

These are my favorite type of Chapo episodes. Communists drive out fascists! ✊🏼

Douglas McTague

Did they actually interview any Veterans for the new podcast season?