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A grab-bag of topics today: A novel idea for fixing policing from the Slow Boring blog; Eric Adams has a rat problem; Priest goes to hell; TikTok ban on the horizon; Prince Andrew in the tub; Andrew Tate’s jail posts.

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Toddy Todd

This reminds me of that time I played golf with Isaac Hayes

AbeLinkin

We have a rat problem!!

Brendan Kneeland

You guys are doing an amazing job with Hell on Earth. And love this show too of course. Who knew stories of misery could be so dang listenable 💜💜

NovalisGuy

Smoking drrraaaaaaaiiiiiiiinnnnnnnn

Woke Batou

Just in time for me to walk to work in the morning

Thom

thank you

T

Matt and Chris, please make a podcast series about history's greatest bag fumbles.

Bob

go birds

Ahmed Razick

Proud of myself. Helped a dude that got in a car accident. When my mom asked if I called the police I got to ler her know that unless you are a capitalist no situation can be improved by calling the police.

Robert mcnamee

It's the episodes with just a gishgallop of topics and no cohesive narrative that I look forward too the most.

Michael S. Judge

No lie: in 2006, when I worked at a grocery store, I was a big Isaac Hayes fan after discovering HOT BUTTERED SOUL. He was in town doing a casino show, and right before the store closed around 9 p.m., a guy in sunglasses and a striped t-shirt who looked exactly like Isaac Hayes came in. He got a load of expensive ingredient stuff, no readymade food, and came through my checkout line, because I was the only one open. As he was leaving, I finally had to say, "I'm sorry, sir, but –" and he turned around, grinned at me like "don't say anything," and took off

teenynoid

"What are we gonna do about cops" IDK, invite on Matt Taibbi so he can claim it's not a big deal?

Poppy Chulo

Any chance you guys will be doing a raffle giveaway of a pair of Ambers panties?

Sav

Shitting on teachers as podcasters? Eww. Not TFA but I've taught alongside them in a union and they're fine. They stick around poor schools as long as anyone else - most tenured teachers move on to rich schools with better working conditions regardless of prep program. It's almost like it's systemic? Lol

The Cheerful Comrade

There's already hella degree having cops. Criminal justice majors become Street cops all the time and then become detectives and supervisors..

Steven P Schiesser

Hey, U S and Europe are sending panzers to Nazis. You ever gonna talk about this or are you afraid the blue check democrats will unsubscribe?

Gordon Schmidt

Josh Hollway is the worst but TikTok should absolutely be banned. Not for anti-Chinese reasons, the app is just evil. Felix says something else will take its place, but I don't think anything will drive people crazy like this shit has. And if something does, then we'll ban that too. Time to take a stand.

Paul F. Holzfäller

The M1 Abrams was built to kill Russians. Why would you not send it to a place where you wanted Russians to be dead?

MC Prescott

You’re just as annoying as the blue check democrats you’re complaining about

Jeffrey Miller

I don't blame them because the topic makes everyone fucking crazy and insufferable.

J.P. McD.

Need to ban attention algorithms in general, maybe infinite scroll. But yea if this one’s an easier political win just take what you can get. (Not sure who “you” is here)

Joe

Uncle Moe’s Family Feedbag

Alexandr

I don't think Matt Taibbi has a platform on Chapo much anymore. Because he wasn't quite the piece of shit he is now when he came on before, and now is OBVIOUSLY one.

J.P. McD.

“Teach for America *donors*” he said

Alexandr

I don't know much about TikTok other than that anti-China hysteria has gotten the worst people in the world mad about it. So to that end it's a good thing by default. So what's the deal with it?

Poppy Chulo

Oh no, not our sacred teachers! I had maybe 3 good teachers through junior high and high school. The rest were lazy pieces of shit who just turned on the overhead projector and made us copy notes every single day.

I am become reply guy

If TikTok was owned by an American company and literally made a dollar Holloway would be talking about consumer choice and the marketplace of ideas.

Mr. Lobotomy

Great ep, Matt’s points on HR were great

SF

shut up dude

SF

Uh huh that’s nice. Well anyway, in the real world this is happening purely because of deranged anti-Chinese hysteria.

Scot Forsythe

Lmao its like Training Day meets Summer School! How to creat a felon in one semester!

Equality State Of Mind

A Romanian prison guard makes 10 grand USD a year. That's how Andrew Tate has a phone inside.

justdave

Or serial killers

Dante

If it wasn't tiktok it would be Facebook or Google, which do the same things, but the reason is only because cold war bs But it's important to note the Chinese only version Douyin is the same app and doesn't have the same issues tiktok does maybe because of culture or they enforce tos more

Dante

Man the tiktok ban is so fake and the weakest thing of this cold war ever Like we have to banned Chinese shit because they're just better than ours is the real message

Thomas Brereton

I think you gotta mention the resurgence of organised labour in the UK as a light in the tunnel

cj33

Matty Iglesias's new book : One Billion American cops.

Sam Jacobs

What's the song at the end of the ep?

calvin kilby

it's partly anti-china hysteria and the fact that any sort of imposition on the private sphere of personal liberty is beyond the pale whereas impositions into the sphere of public liberty is just the price a' doin' business in the greatest goddamn country in the world.

calvin kilby

i hope the pic of matty they choose shows off his photogenic cool body and face to go along with reading his outstanding ideas

Neil Y

Matt's suggestion of having 10 lbs phones is so goddamn funny

calvin kilby

will fucking up the intro to the episodes is cool and i hope is a tradition in the free eps going forward. makes the whole thing feel a lot breezier and fun instead of just reciting shit off a google doc and then closing it up for the day to go play more fortnite or whatever else the fuck they do

William

Fucking lib ass take - please explain how "talking about 30 tanks being sent" will change anything. Also, if you knew what you're talking about (which you don't) you'd know that the tanks likely won't be sent for a long while (if ever) and the US said they would do this to get Germany to send their tanks now. So shut the fuck up and let us have what little we can call entertainment without bitch ass morons like yourself bleating about stupid shit every fucking day

Steven P Schiesser

Yeah, I know how many tanks it is dumb ass and if you think you know an eighth as much about what’s going on in the Ukraine and with the American Empire well little boy you’re wrong, so why don’t you go fuck yourself. Yes have your bread and circuses. I am organizing demonstrations because I’m not a punk ass. Little bougie like you who only cares about his own ass I will not respond again because I will not look at this thread again because you’re not really worth it you know nothing about me and to say that you know more than me is ignorant

Doug Cartel

You know what they say, All Cops Are Brandons

CT

Can’t find any info on the Scorpion Unit having been trained by some manner of Israeli defense contractors. Anyone have any suggestions for info on said matter?

CT

Calm down

Steven P Schiesser

I’m sorry Chris I shouldn’t of start an argument with fools It’s my fault. I subscribe to about eight podcast and this is the only audience that is extremely vicious.

CT

Hmmm. Appreciate the link. But that’s about Georgia’s relationship with Israel. I’m definitely well aware of the cozy relationship between said country and many of the US’s pd’s. Was hoping to find info re: this specific unit in Memphis as they specifically were mentioned to have been trained as suggested in this ep.

Doug Cartel

can't believe Will didn't know a 2nd song until he was 19

Jacob Jones

Y'all should reach out to Hildegard von Blingin' to assist with your "We Didn't Start the Fire" Hell on Earth production. lol Add some additional feudal flair.

William

To the question, "are they stupid, or think we are stupid?" Always, ALWAYS, default to believing THEY are stupid. It's either true or insulting

Dark Belden

It’s awesome that the Michigan mega church guy went to the same hell as Frieza in Dragon Ball Super.

CT

Lol. Wat? Calm down weirdo. Maybe try re-reading the post you replied to.

Wario Argento

Television, "Untitled Instrumental"

CT

No. Only you do. As usual.

CT

Weirdo

Sam Jacobs

I love Television but never heard this before, thanks!

Doug Cartel

"sex frolicking" is when you run around in a field naked and slapping each other's butts in a game of tag, so clearly a bath tub isn't enough room for that

Tan Tan

idk what i find more terrifying- gatekeeping policing to where only ivy league teachers pet, gold brick shitting, yuppie do-gooders get to go brutalize working class neighborhoods or the status quo where literally any psychopath can

justdave

All I said was the jews bein in goergia seems a fine ol' solution

Warbs

We didn't start the pyre?

justdave

Thou didnt burn ye priory, twas the lord who burned it, he who scourned it

Lu

Tik tok linguistics in the face of censorship are reminiscent of rhyming cockney slang, wherein if one wanted to say beans you would think beans and toast, and then take toast and rhyme it so that saying “roast” just means “beans”

XXXXXXXL FAILSON

What if we did the Stanford prison experiment but like…everywhere

Nick Perri

I will never not be pantless in my own house. Do better, Will!

Ian H

Yeah not only does that bizarre photo not prove the tub is too small to have sex in, that's also not what Virginia Roberts claimed! Not gonna detail it here, too gross, but essentially Andrew initiated in the tub and then took her to a bedroom. The Maxwells also point out, in hilarious toff fashion, that she calls it "a Victorian tub" as if an American teenager would obviously know that built in tubs weren't popularized till the reign of King George.

SF

You should learn to let go of a grudge Connor.

Roger Peet

What Television song is this?

Emery

this is not content

jordan

Would be really awesome to see an interview or something about Cop City

Julian Drummond

I’ll play the harpsichord continuo for baroque we didn’t start the fire

Saga

The problem isn't Tiktok per se, it's treating engagement of all kinds as currency in a largely unmoderated space. Especially when negative content gets the most attention.

Willie Simpson

I walk over the Brooklyn Bridge every night after work during peak tourist picture taking time...they have now set up these camera circles where they play "Empire State of Mind" on an endless loop in three locations on the bridge while tourists get their picture taken...it is ghastly!

Tony Samuels

What's that close out music on this one, that's a slammer

teenynoid

You should learn to fuck off.

foxy

me: well I have a history degree. maybe i can try a stanza or two of we didn't start the reformation me also: what do i rhyme with ottomans

foxy

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foxy

That's because we (teachers) get forced into curriculums and get very little freedom in primary school and lower. It is extremely discouraging and it beats you down very hard after the first year or two. You can see how volunteer teachers (I recall taking a law enforcement class as a kid; I wasn't very social activist yet) drop out after their year and ditch asap, while teachers get stuck. It's really not the teacher's fault in the end. I had some great teachers, but it's really in college that professors start to have freedom, which is why you may be able to have a better time learning. I had a professor that didn't like how the history class was being taught, so he made his own peace studies class where he taught about unions and nonviolent activism in the past, as well as how subterfuge helped in wars, etc, discounting real violence. Now, add in when you are also dealing with kids in troubled socioeconomic conditions, and high school teachers get a lot of flak for the absurd amount of work they have to do. This is a systemic issue that the right-wing would continue to restrict and micromanage. Try not to blame the teachers. Doing that is the same as blaming unions for not being as effective as they should be in modern capitalism. Everyone is against us, including the students now, the entire school system is geared towards pandering towards the PTA (which might as well be the PA) and conservatives, we are underpaid, and if we give you a bad grade you call us lazy pieces of shit.

Ian H

I think it's the bonus instrumental track off of Television's Marquee Moon album, Tom Verlaine just died and music maestro Chris is paying tribute

Mauve_Avenger

"From without the Ottomans Within Presbyterians Martin Luther, Thomas Muntzer Stirring up the Vatican! We didn't start the fire..."

foxy

Maybe because Ukraine aide happens constantly and it's a bit boring to just talk about how we disapprove of it when (I've) been disapproving of it since the start because it just perpetuates war further and doesn't actually solve or win anything. It's just a show. Your comment already started adversarial, so it's no surprise you got adversarial replies.

foxy

cold war I: we sent two men to the moon because the USSR's space program was better than ours cold war II: we banned tik tok because their dancing is better than ours how far the reactionaries have fallen.

foxy

Even if the tub is too small, that wouldn't stop me

foxy

good one

Breakaway

My state banned Tik Tok on state-owned devices and networks, so that includes the wifi at the public universities. Kids can still use VPN or just use data. Similarly, Russia banned all Meta products last year, and I still follow tons of Russia photographers on Instagram. Some are pro war, some anti, most don’t mention it at all. This stuff is pretty easy to get around if you really want to post.

Tony Samuels

Ah thanks! Damn I don't think I even knew there was a bonus track on marquee moon, at least not on the vinyl copy I had in the 90s. RiP to a real one eh. Little Johnny Jewel changed my whole brain...

blackFFillip

does Felix need help learning how to clear his throat?

No

Untitled Instrumental off of the Elektra recordings. Real ones know that Verlaine sound immediately

No

Best thing about Don't Worry Be Happy is that it was posted on youtube like 10 years ago and attributed to Bob Marley, with a photo of Bob Marley, and its got like 200 million views and no ones ever changed it

James Proulx

Will's aversion to TikTok is based on his loyalty and love of the Twitter.

Gavin Farrell

Taibbi's doing good work with the Twitter files, and on this ep the Chapo boys claim that TicTok is moderated by AI and underpaid workers from 'the global South'. I assure you the same government institutions that had their hands all up in twitter are also working hard on TicTok. Biden even had TikTok 'influencers' come to the Whitehouse at one point for 'talking points'. But we have the Chapo boys dropping a stupid little comedic riff about some underpaid global South worker moderating TicTok. TikTok is another well controlled propaganda arm feeding us junk and nonsense.

Gavin Farrell

Cold War 1 we also killed about 20 million people around the globe, dropped more bombs and napalm than were used in all of WW2 a few times over, and supported every reactionary Right-wing dictator that needed weapons. Cold War 2 we're still doing the same stuff, give it 40 more years and it may end in nuclear holocaust yet. Reactionaries are still doing coups and pumping weapons out wherever they can.

teenynoid

IDK anything about Twitter files, but it's probably equivalent to Taibbi's work on Russiagate & Biden laptop: i.e. there's plenty of damning shit there, shitlibs bend over backwards explaining why it's all meaningless and Taibbi is a Russian bot; BUT Taibbi's doing the writing with a mind to harken back to some halcyon days of "when Journalism Was Pure & Good." [While also studiously failing to mention an oligarch is feeding him all the primary sources he's drawing from, which cannot help but create a slanted narrative.] What I'M talking about is -- Taibbi was dogshit and devoid of class analysis of state violence in his Chapo appearance during the George Floyd protests, and the Chapos are so cucked they didn't offer *even milquetoast pushback* to his claim that "cops are working-class, and police don't kill THAT much." Which is the type of thing if Chuck Todd or Jake Tapper did on their CNN/MSNBC news show, they would (rightfully) roast the fuck out of him for doing.

Gavin Farrell

And ye middle class bourgeois looked on and 'tried', but deferreth responsibility for the pyre, but supped and danced whilst ye world burned.

Reece Coren

matt was so right about the conflict avoidance

yona c. riel

You guys do know that Bobby mcferrin’s was meant as sarcasm right? Seems like u missed his point… also, Paul was asleep in his bed when that guy broke into the house… what do u sleep in?

Daniel Doran

Im in new york! Where dreams are made of! it is Amazing!

james

Idk the Tyre incident seem more like an issue of excited black male violence to me, the cops were furious that he kept evading/resisting and went into blind rages. Very sad incident!

Lewis

fed

JDR 2209

Matty wants to do the Stanford prison experiment to America's inner cities

Antipaganda

Blaming teachers for not being enthusiastic about teaching you is like blaming retail workers for not smiling while checking your items.

Bobby Volcano

Very proud of Matt here, pulling together the pog joke even though that was a little brothers' fad for guys our age.

Dan

Strong words in TikTok for guys who spend 10 hours a day on twitter

Dan

I think regulating people’s personal content consumption habits through direct intervention is pretty dumb. I also just don’t know what valuable info the Chinese are getting here?

yona c. riel

As do I… my point is that’s why he was in his underwear in the police video! He was awakened in the middle of the night by a home invader…

Gulb

One thing to note regarding the priest who went to hell. I'm pretty sure it is the stance of the church that sacraments are still effective even if the priest isn't in a state of grace. Not sure if this holds for megachurch pastors though.

Breakaway

Yeah, I agree these bans are dumb, and pretty ineffective. I don’t know what China is getting from TikTok either. I have heard, even from people who aren’t all on the China Bad train, that it’s more invasive than other social media and “free” web apps, but I don’t know the specifics.

MG

The 4 pillars of New York are rapping, DJing, breakdancing and graffiti

Jimmy McMillan

If you're saying that the police did what they did because they were black, that's pretty racist dude. Cops have been doing that shit since Rodney king. No matter their color ACAB

Poppy Chulo

You can take the dogshit analogies back to reddit with rest of the neolib turds.

Poppy Chulo

I call a teacher lazy who doesn't care about actually teaching their students or enriching their academic lives. If you have kids copy notes all year you're a lazy piece of shit.

Michael Landreth

Or, just a thought—make teaching a more attractive profession for people with the talent and skill to be good teachers, rather than a payday for desperate people who have few other options. Finding fault with members of the working class living in precarity for the way they do their job is always bullshit, always. And that’s not a neolib take, but your demand for on-the-job accountability for the victims of wage theft is.

Michael Landreth

Excited black male violence? Are you fucking serious man? I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you meant something else and just used poor phrasing. I think you said what you intended to say though.

Poppy Chulo

As someone who worked as a support staff at a highschool for years let me be the first to say the teachers didn't give a shit about worker solidarity, just themselves. And to call their salaries precarious, lol.

Iain Hood

Can someone pitch don't worry be happy into G major, I wanna hear the creepy version.

calvin kilby

Someone should cut your fucking throat

foxy

I had a couple ideas Tudor England, Suleiman, Castile marries Aragon, Hernan Cortes, Magellan, Michaelangelo Martin Luther, Lisbon burns, Gregorian calendar... i couldn't think of more

Khemith

Why are people so hung up on Prince Andrew? He fucked a girl so what? Just more western sex panic.

Poppy Chulo

Man you are a sad little girl.

Poppy Chulo

You are such an easily manipulated cry baby. You played right into it. This isn't Twitter. Lol

Poppy Chulo

I sleep in your mom's bed. Lol got his ass.

Connor Sullivan

The vision of Hell being a TimeLife hits CD commercial is just *chef's kiss*

Mia

whose ass do I need to eat to get ep 4 of hell on earth

T G BYAM SHAW

I need hell on earth please I need slop I'm jonesing here

Flesh Colored Subaru

How has Richard Hell outlived basically everyone from the CBGB scene

AKorgar

An underage girl who was probably being held under duress, you absolute tit

AKorgar

Yeah the position that the sanctity of the sacraments depends on the grace or merit of the officiant is known as Donatism, it was a very early heresy dealt with way way back in the first millenium AD

AKorgar

Fuck off. You too Spacey, you basic edge lord bitch

Luis Zamarripa

Its not a surprise that TikTok can arouse this much fervent discourse, you’re essentially FaceTiming humanity’s collective id when you log on. Combine that with the most efficient algorithms for engagement that social media has ever produced and you have a recipe for people losing their minds to some form of brain rot, whether they love the app or hate it

aida beats

overflowing tintures of honeywine fucked me up

calvin kilby

Hell is listening to retail store music, forever

Sarah Mock

loved the redwall shoutout

Poppy Chulo

Hello, that would be me.

Poppy Chulo

Right after you suck my dick you soft as baby shit twitter tit.

Mia

👁

AKorgar

Guy doesn't like Twitter so he just goes to Patreon to act like a shithead. Fuck it, why not

AKorgar

Does your mom know you're using the computer, Kevin

foxy

This is what they said about newspapers. Like, word for word

foxy

You seem like a nice person and I'm sure you were never the problem in those situations, lol. Is all that bitterness just because you had to outline your notes? I agree, that is not great teaching. But to paint that across the entire field is absurd. We need lower numbers of students in classroom, better materials, less partisan intervention, a revision of the standards system which is why that happens, and more. Get over yourself and consider systemic issues like a real leftist should, neolib

Poppy Chulo

You're shilling for the biggest group of neolibs of all, don't make me laugh.

Poppy Chulo

Oh better police the comments with my hand wringing chastisements!

Harry P. Ness

of course someone named Nigel would say this

Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep

Reminds me of a time when you'd have vague memories of the kids' novels you read as a kid―did l have any idea what a stoat was at the time?—rather than having spent your whole adult life obsessing over the kids' novels you've been rereading since you were a teen.

AKorgar

I am no more policing the comments than you are contributing sparkling witticisms

AKorgar

Funnily enough he posted this while he was buffing the Prince's shoe collection

AKorgar

Roight ya buncha bloody geezers wots it matter if the Prince hits if off wit some bird hes the Prince innit'e?

B2B Commuter

I’ve miss you, the show hasn’t been the same since they got rid of Beltway Garage

Chavvy Alonso

if 2 people cant fit, you must acquit

Amanda

Yes, get Nick Diamonds for we didn't start the fire!

Shiv

“euchre Avignon papacy” is gonna tickle me for a good while

Shiv

i think there are 7 (adding: walking here, pizza and rats)

Ascetic Blur

Look I might burn for all eternity but Belial writes fuckin bangers y'all.

M.S.

The 10 pound phone idea is genius. The weight should be granite, hand chiseled by union masons - that way it's really expensive, awkward to carry, and supports working wages

foxy

it also gives every citizen their own self defense weapon, so we can finally enact gun control laws

J. A.

I mean if everyone invovled was paid fairly theyd be 80k so maybe this problem fixes itself....

Jonathan Nathan

I could listen to this iteration of Will fucking up the intro for hours over and over

Jonathan Nathan

Here I am again four months later listening to it over and over