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Bonus: L.A. Teachers’ Strike (Patreon)

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2023-03-20 15:18:42
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2026-06

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Will talks to Betsy and Gloria, two LA public school teachers, ahead of the three-day teachers’ strike planned to begin this Tuesday. They discuss their demands, the conditions in the schools, engaging the local community, and challenges from the LA school district superintendent.

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Ben Zaretsky

Where’s my Wagner group pornhub episode! You can’t just dangle that out there . Chop chop chapo

Ben Zaretsky

On the xi episode? Okay thanks need to finish that one. The preview made me think that’d be the episode title

Cesar C

Family friend is affected by this and is going on strike Wednesday, thank you will for this interview

Hunter

To have the equivalent of a middle class life in the 90s (house, vacations, couple of kids, etc); you’d have to make ~400k a year. Something has to give

Julie Baxter

Wiki'd Carvalho and he's apparently one of the lucky few undocumented immigrants who realized the classic rags to riches "American Dream," bootstraps and all that, and expects others to do the same.

Sam Evergreen

This will be a taco Tuesday for the ages

Big Paul of Philly

This is amazing thank you for shedding light on this. I’m an education major & the right wings war on education is scary. Teachers Unions could play a huge role in transitioning to a socialist society 🌹 🤍 solidarity:)

Sela Lewis

Really great interview, I will definitely donate to the strike fund. I have lived on less than $20k per year and it would have been impossible to convince me to go on strike because I would have been to afraid. Contributing to the fund makes going on strike more of an option.

Budget Hireling

I do love my slop with a healthy serving of worker solidarity. Great bonus ep!

Of course

Thanks for this. Donations are quick and easy.

Scott Miller

20k a year?! Jesus Christ they should ask for double, not 30% Godspeed teachers.

Paul F. Holzfäller

Carvalho was probably Ron’s designated fluffer before he got the job in LA.

Austin M

Google Carvalho. He’s exactly as much of a worm as you’d expect.

Patrick Voss

Sending all my love and support to my fellow teachers in la

T

Carvalho was hoping for a feather touch, but the teachers have selected POWER DRIVE!

Jaime Christley

Boy I’d like to “abstract” that superintendent.

More Human than Human

Every American knows what it’s like to be a massive cuck. God bless these teachers for striking. Stick it to them as hard as fucking possible

Jaime Christley

I’m gonna buy some dang tacos for teachers! UPDATE: Tacos bought!

D M

I make 24k a year on my disability pension welfare payments in Australia plus extra benefits like cheap medicine and free doctors bulk billed on medicare... wtf is going on over there. revolution already

Harry P. Ness

I'm a Special Ed Assistant. The job has completely melted my sanity in the past few years and no one even seems to know what I do for a living. Heartening to even get a shout out when education labour is being discussed

A Witherspoon

man, Amber should be serving this slop.

K H

Holding out hope professions dominated by women will have the balls to actually put some fear into capital, unlike all the men "greatful to have a job" because they're fucking idiots. Nurse-teacher coalition could absolutely bring class consciousness to the forefront and capital to its knees, especially now. Jesus. They are asking for way way too little. That doesn't garner respect or increase success. You don't get points for seeming reasonable, you're made to live with less. Either you have leverage or you don't. I got a 20% raise while already making way more for doing a way easier and arguably significantly less important job than teaching children. This shit is made up. Ask for a 200% raise minimum. They will always give you less than you reach for. Let their dumbass kids worship Xi on TikTok if they won't allow the dignity of a good wage. I wouldn't get out of bed for $20k in America. I'd just move, why stay here?

K H

Hell yea dude.

K H

It's sad. These people have unions and understand need to strike but are so beaten down they're only asking for bigger crumbs. Same with strippers union. There is a fundamental blindness to how lethal etiquette can be. That's what a 30% raise on $20k is. It certainly isn't logical. At $40k that still isn't viable for a career. Anything less than $100k/year is essentially a 5 year time bomb. In LA it's like a 2 or year time bomb. You aren't saving, certainly not buying a house at $30k. What exactly is the point? Irrational etiquette of labor performing gratitude even as they strike. They are just slightly expanding the window for the next time they go broke.

SF

get over it

K H

It should be stated that "turning the public" against striking workers is mostly just to make you feel bad for striking(with some political angle). If public opinion meant anything, what would that do to CEO compensation? Public opinion doesn't mean a fucking thing. All that matters is the time the (usually a business)system can withstand the shock of absent labor and what alternatives do they have. I will never feel bad for striking because some beaten down hog thinks I should make less because they make less. If you strike, go for broke so you actually save enough to strike again and achieve some real change within the system, and don't need to go begging to the public. Bigger strikes between different labor groups making more sweeping demands is the way forward. Have a logical objective, not just spiraling slower into debt. Striking to simply remain at the poverty line is fucking stupid. You strike to escape poverty not to stay there.

Sean McGrier

Give me my Waco-Lago tomorrow.

Poppy Chulo

This is a reddit tier comment. "Men bad, yikes sweaty! Funko pops!"

K H

I don't know what that means. Also I'm gay.

Warbs

Educator here. Love this, thank you, Will. As I was listening at the gym, all MSM was covering the strike and were framing it as illegal and as a rationale for "school choice".

K H

What material effect does the public have on the institution you're negotiating against?

K H

They aren't. They're directly intertwined with what it "traditionally" means to be a man. Toxic masculinity I believe they call it. A mindset diametrically opposed to class consciousness, collective action, and a life valuing emotional well being of those around you as opposed to domination. Maybe your male coded upbringing was different and implied different conclusions. Blessed.

Curtis Dyer

Can we share this outside of Patreon? I don't see it on the Chapo YT channel.

kwrob

At least for teachers, it's the difference between striking with the support of parents or striking without it, which might have a bigger effect on feelings than anything practical, but morale counts for something in a strike. For teachers, parental support has a huge impact on what your job is like if you hope to get it back post-strike. Plus, the LA school board is publicly elected, and publicly accessible. So even though the superintendent/board doesn't have to listen to "the public," I would imagine they're more susceptible to public pressure than a typical CEO/board.

K H

I understand that. I'm saying the traits that make a good teacher(like caring if people you don't really know like you) make for a weak bargaining group. The superintendent knows teachers don't like it, they don't care. The board knows and they don't care. Just as executives don't care if you literally cry buying eggs or gas. Teachers are the only ones in the chain letting feeling bad limit their actions. You're going to screw over parents in the short term, no way around it. The way to get a normal brained person to get past that is by having an objective. That's one way you can have "nice" people make decisions that decimate human life. Have a clear objective that is equal to the hardship necessary to win. That objective is going to make people angry because it bucks the trend of expectation, which in this case is impoverished teachers, teachers losing. Striking to stay at the poverty line is a waste of time. Just because they made you fight doesn't mean you won anything meaningful. Taxes are going to need to go up or elected representatives need to ask for more federal funding. Unions must become political animals and that involves pissing people off until they get with the program and direct their vitriol at the right people. No one has ever felt bad for a doormat because they don't even think about walking on it. If this is where the rule has lead you, of what use was the rule? People hear that they're running a losing strategy. They think losing is bad. They think if losing is bad then I'm bad. I can't be bad so I must not be running a losing strategy. Teachers are good, I want them to win.

K H

I see no contradiction or contrast at all. No the teachers are not empathetic, because if they were they would understand the need to be more ruthless. A teacher can be a right wing Trump supporter, the important thing is they recognize their personal value and the fact that poverty ultimately hurts their own children, and spouse, and that ultimately the poverty of their profession serves the aims of the sicko pedophiles. I'm always hopeful but what I'm seeing is teachers striking for poverty wages and solar panels. To me that looks like struggle without victory and that is something people tire of. That has been the playbook of the Democratic party and it has lead us to this precipice. On the practical individual level, these teachers can not afford their jobs. I assume they sell drugs and their ass in LA and 20% on $20k will not change that. If teachers concede lower pay than cops they're already surrendering themselves and the children.

E G

Solidarity. ✊🏼

William

You think you understand negotiation and you show absolutely zero practical knowledge about how real collective action works. Cool. All the empathy and understanding of people in this situation of a typical internet commenter, who thinks their experience is and should be the same as everyone else’s

William

These fucking dipshit pmc elite liberals and conservative fucks are standing on a wooden plank over a chasm, and can’t saw through the plank fast enough

K H

No one has practical knowledge of how to organize or labor wouldn't be losing and have been losing for 40 years. I'm going by what they said in the interview, and if teachers in LA are making $20k/year that is losing. I get wanting to pursue a known strategy, I understand being afraid of straying from trends, I understand it's uncomfortable conveying to people a new way of thinking, I get voting for democrats. It just does not work. If you ask for less there is less to overcome the fear of escalating action and the consequences of failure keep increasing until the cure may kill you. Maybe I clocked it wrong and teacher unions have been winning, but I'm just going by what was stated here.

Jessica S

School choice is suuuucks. They have terrible oversight and create way more disparities than exist in public school. Of course, I’m sure this is not a bug, but a feature. Students don’t need choices, they need schools to be properly funded.

Jessica S

People who think teachers get paid enough need to spend at least one month teaching their class. Especially with how INSANE people were after the pandemic. I’m quite certain that our incredible elementary principal took a job at the district at the end of last year b/c of all the shit she had to take. It was absolutely astonishing, and we don’t even live in a loco maga area, not by a long shot. And let me say, the kids were not alright, lol. Teachers had their hands full taming our feral treasures.

K H

I've come to think a necessary element in the strike is to try and prepare the ground for a co-op or some kind of direct selling of the services by labor. In the case of teachers, I always have thought of it in terms of baby sitting. Where I think a typical rate for a professional accredited sitter might be $20/hr. So for a class of 20 that should be like $400/hr for 8hrs is $3200/day per teacher. Ideally the union would take up the organization for this. In this way unions could take the strike as an opportunity to transition into a worker lead enterprise/co-op. For teachers I'd hope parents would comprehend the value they are actually receiving so they could vote for wages to be reasonably calibrated and funded by the state. Unfortunately wages are a small part of a much broader failure of child rearing, but if teachers aren't paid enough their input and belief in viable change won't manifest. In my view each teacher should have no more than 6 pupils. Particularly as they get older.

VitAnyaNaked

<p style="color: #008600;">It was a pretty constructive conversation. Thanks. It's sad that strikes still happen in the world...</p>

Poppy Chulo

It sure is now let's see those titties.

Logan

Red Scare ass comment

etienne

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