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Movie Mindset 01 - Tony Vision (Patreon)

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2023-04-27 14:00:16
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2025-08-12 21:26:15
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Welcome to Movie Mindset! In this inaugural episode, Will and Hesse guide you through two of the collaborations between director Tony Scott and star Denzel Washington, Man on Fire (2004) & Deja Vu (2006). Join us as the ultimate auteur of the action-thriller meets the ultimate American leading man in these two propulsive explorations of justice, time, duty, depression, vengeance, destiny and sick-ass explosions.

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Seph

I’m ready to be enlightened.

Whucko Jaang

I attempted to watch Deja Vu but it sucked.

Mike Loudin

Leeetttssss fffuuuccckkinnggg gooooooo!!!!

Malaparte_Animal

love y'all thx for keepin the slop spigot spewing topnotch slop ✨❤️

Gurjot

You just love to see it. Let's fucking go!!!

The Etymology of Nonsense

I'm gay for movies and for Will and for Denzel and I'm just absolutely queer as fuck for Hesse

zach

love this hosting combo

CS

inquiring minds would like to know

Chloe

the people love and demand more Hesse!!

EnKaff

The bemusing adulation Tony Scott gets from the Chapo Boys is their most enjoyable wrong opinion

Kroy

Yesssss been waiting for this

John Douglas

The original Man on Fire from 87 with Scott Glenn and Joe Pesci is excellent too, IMO!

TugNuggins

Christman better be on this pod

Michael

Great episode! Maybe the second best leftist film critique podcast, behind Horror Vanguard.

Beehive Fucker

literally walking around my house going "mov-ie mind-set" *clap clap clap clap clap*

Greg Newton

will’s face for the cover photo is sending me lmfaoooo

NYCM&AHole

Podcast for the new American century started using this for their film eps. Thieves.

Ben Zaretsky

Can’t wait to listen to this. Made me remember the verhoeven episode with Adam McKay - peak chapo there. More verhoeven more McKay

Luis Gomez

???? tony scott is the GOAT

nick

I'm so hard right now

kt

Very excited for this I love Hesse

Rich G

Denzel is always good but Man on Fire really sucked IMO

calvin kilby

This mf is tripping. The Scott brothers were amazing.

calvin kilby

Now I have another pair of podcast perverts to listen to while I wait for episodes of sleazoids to drop, hell yeah.

Poppy Chulo

You picked the wrong brother.

Tvvvv

If you are doing rourke then you got to at least briefly talk about the rainmaker. It’s perfect casting.

Cody Johnson

Movie Mindset is when you just describe the entire plot of a movie on your movie podcast.

J.P. McD.

2h15m is a bad sign

Cody Johnson

I had really high hopes for this but if all you are actually adding is quips and short asides about a movie...do a commentary track. I watched the movie I know what happens in it. lol.

Dongo

That’s good actually

Mika Braginsky

anyone interested in my two tickets to tonight's movie minset show at 9:30? face value @ $21 each

EnKaff

He's pretty mid.

John Douglas

As do you buddy! Thanks and have a nice day!

Joseph Pajerek

Deja Vu was released in December of 2006, yet Will kept saying it was a 2007 film. Great ep other than that though

syd

wtf is Will wearing

Joseph Pajerek

I disagree, it was one of my favorite movies from 2004, along with Kill Bill Vol 2 and Million Dollar Baby

Shawn Hayes

Sam Neills famous insane asylum digs from in the mouth of madness

Max Lopez

Top tier content

Ozzie

I saw Man on Fire in the theaters and it was fantastic. RIP Tony!

hotspur

The "I picked the wrong week to stop smoking hash" has to be a reference to Airplane, or whatever movie that was spoofing.

Paul F. Holzfäller

How are you not down with Denzel stuffing a C4 bomb up a dude’s ass? The man needed answers.

cwen

Just an excuse for Will to slurp down five mega sized diet cokes and a trash bag full of popcorn

Paul F. Holzfäller

I wonder what the inside of an old couple’s home would look like after the backblast from an RPG. My man JW Creasy definitely knows.

Zach

This pod gave me acid flashbacks of watching both these movies at least 5 times a year on FX after middle school

snafujesus

It’s been one episode, hypey.

snafujesus

I appreciate it as a takedown of his brother, who’s the real mid. At least Tony was full-blown schlock instead of a bunch of pretentious empty signifiers

Angelo J Sibilio

Wait why did they use Hello Zepp for the trailer of Deja Vu?

Mulloy

I got time. You don't, but I do.

Jared Sarnie

In so happythank you hesse and will

Justin R

A+ Walken impression

Declan Kennedy

only half an hour through and loving it, my personal favourite Tony Scott films are Man on Fire and Domino (which I always think of as Woman on Fire) but Deja Vu is up there too

Dan

I just watched 'Deja Vu' a few months ago on a DVD that I ended up selling.

JD

Deja Vu is incredible but omg Man on Fire, despite its awesome tonyvision, made me wanna self-harm so hard

Isaac Suárez

Great episode. My one note is that, speaking as a Mexican national who has spent a lot of time with family in the country, the Mexican police, sadly, are about as bad as they’re portrayed in the movie. Mexico City’s level of violence is unrealistic, but many parts of central and northern Mexico law enforcement has so thoroughly been corrupted by organized crime that folks don’t call the police to report crimes. The movie is uncharitable, to say the least, to Mexico generally. Sadly, the portrayal of the police isn't that far off the mark.

Stop the Spread

Dope… not gonna lie, this is the only one imma listen to. You can guess why, lol

Gordon Schmidt

I saw both of these films and Unstoppable somewhat recently. Although I wasn't big on Tony Scott beforehand, I thought they were all very good. Deja Vu in particular was excellent, I'm glad you picked that one, as much as I love Unstoppable. It's such a shame Scott died when he did, he was at the peak of his talent. Btw, is the Pelham 123 remake good? I haven't heard much about it

Dank Spilf

JC saw his bullet ridden car at the ferry. He didnt have a feeling. He knew!

Poppy Chulo

Just a heads up the Pelham remake was dreadful. Travolta was funny in a cringe way.

Dean Painter

Out of Time (2003) also feels like it could have been directed by Tony Scott. Fun to watch Denzel play a character that’s a sleaze ball.

Waffle Poet

I’ve really been looking forward to this and it’s great. I love Tony Scott. Man on Fire is an incredible film and the style Scott cooked up there and with Deja Vu were cranked up to 11 for Domino (2007). Domino gets a ton of hate, but fuck ‘em, because I love it. Hesse is a fantastic co-host. Looking forward to the next episode.

Nolan

So I’m supposed to believe Dakota Fanning is half Mexican.

Nolan

Looks like Hitler youth.

Dick Wolf

Went to the optometrist and they told me I got that Tony/Tony Vision 😤

Greg

Don't do that!

NoPrefect

Man, with the concentrated caucacity that is Radha Mitchell (literal actual human name "Radha Rani Amber Indigo Ananda Mitchell") as a mother...

NoPrefect

Fuck anyone shitting on my Scotties, they hit and missed but always swung. Fuck all your bunting asses.

Michael Carroll

No but really Uptown Girls really is a great film, you watch it trying to put your finger on what this Brittany Murphy / Dakota Fanning vehicle is - it’s absolutely not a romcom, it’s not exactly a coming of age movie, ultimately it’s Brittany Murphy’s mind palace in conversation with itself, soothing her own anxieties. Not literally, but that’s the vibe. It’s phenomenal.

YukiNukem64x

Serious comment, I don't know any of the movies, but if there are any that star Jack Nicholson, we need a Branson Nicholson bit please thank you.

Doug Cartel

not far enough in to see if you talked about this but Denzel is the one who likes to do weird shit to food right? Like if you're paying attention he'll be putting salt in his coffee or eating an orange like an apple, etc

Maxwell Harkness

Pelham 123 remake loses basically everything that I like about Pelham 123 original but I still liked it.

Post Void

I saw Man On Fire about a decade ago and I just realized that the entire time I was listening I was picturing "The Kingdom" as well. "Wait didn't the car blow up during a softball game?"

Big Dylan

Wrong pódcast bud

Brian O'Connor

Good call. Was listening to Liz from Trueanon

Thomas Carroll

LMFAO you did not have the boys make a cover of lets all go to the lobby you sick sickos

Reece Coren

when does felix get his spin off podcast

Casey Kiesling

I put a little salt in to coffee along with cream and sugar it makes it taste better, you need to season everything

Elbows Maginty

A long time ago my mom referred to smoking weed as "taking a snort" so maybe it's some sort of boomer slang?

Doug Cartel

What I grew up learning was that dumping salt into black coffee will make you vomit but idk, never tried it A little salt with cream and sugar sounds fine though

Matthew

this was great … lets fuckin goooo

Nathan Explosion

my favorite thing about MoF is that it gives no fucks about plot logic and the emotional logic is heightened to absurd levels. like the explosion at the club. the reaction of the crowd makes no sense, tony is portraying the reaction of his audience. how he wants us to feel while creasy rubs out this part of the brotherhood. it rules.

james

Damn they really finessed us with the movie mindset ep huh

Ben

He did time for our stories

Martin

They call that the ol razzledazzle

J.P. McD.

Just popped in the Deja Vu Blu-ray that I received from a Netflix red envelope today. Watching incredible mid-00s trailers for a Mark Wahlberg football movie “Invincible”, a Kevin Costner swimming movie, and now The Prestige. And now the “YOU WOULDNT STEAL A CAR” piracy trailer holy shit!!

CJ DiVencenzo

Will your the son my father wish he’d had

etienne

listened to this episode bawling my face off organizing the end of my cat's life, two thumbs up

drewb

That sounds completely gut wrenching. fwiw this fellow slop fiend is sending you as much love as is feasible via the web at this time ❤️

etienne

we don't know his actual birth date but we're gonna pretend he made it to a round 20 and he's gonna have a great party

Nicholas Abrams

This needs to be corrected- The Hunger is 1000x gayer than Top Gun

Demented Avenger

I just got done watching these two movies for the first time (writing this before I listen to the episode, which I’ll probably do tomorrow), and I think Tony Scott loved kitsch even more than he loved explosions, and I think we can all agree that he loved explosions like Bill Clinton loves poontang. That hackneyed shot of the girl dropping her doll in Deja Vu is pure kitsch, such a hackneyed tear-jerker. The shots of Dakota Fanning swimming in Man on Fire border on Epsteinesque, as pedo as the volleyball game in Top Gun was gay. Well, maybe not that pedo, since that was a really, really homoerotic volleyball game, but they were still some creepy shots. I got a Karen Greenlee vibe when Washington looked at the body in the morgue, so maybe Scott had a thing for pushing sexual taboos. Was Scott behind the camera when Linda Lovelace shot the movie with the dog? It would be fitting. Fanning gave the only really good acting performance in these two movies. The woman playing her mother was a dime, I’d never seen her before. Casting Jesus (or whatever that guy’s name is, Jim Christ or however you spell it) as the villain in Deja Vu was clever, and having played Jesus and also being a religious nut job in his own right must make his agent get loads of calls for playing villains since everyone wants to cast Jesus as a villain.

Brett Anders

Theme song is 👨🏻‍🍳😘

Cole

Nathan Explosion

i agree there needs to be more a thesis of this is gonna reach its potential. it’s sorta woven through, but…

tysonw81

It's not my cup o' tea, but I can understand why people like silly, big-budget action movies. But to enjoy getting into the minutia of making them (unless you're a filmmaker yourself) let alone subjecting them to detailed analysis, and even then wanting to listen to others perform that analysis is so bizarre. Is there an audience for this sort of thing outside of a very small niche?

Matt Arthur

one of the little things i caught during man on fire is the during the weapons purchase montage he they show him buying the rectal drug smuggling device with all the weapons and cell phones and a rocket launcher… and an ass pod. he knew then, that somehow, someway, something was going up someone’s ass and they probably weren’t gonna like it.

Michael

I think one of the main appeals of art criticism is that it could open you up to appreciate the care and craftsmanship put into something that you otherwise wouldn't notice. The genre of the piece in that case is kind of irrelevant.

Eric Wiley

Elle Fanning was the child actor who dropped her doll in Deja Vu, did they mention this?

Jeremy

Zero Hour!, but yeah, definitely more a reference to Airplane! rather than the original

Arthur G. Pym

Is it really that bizarre? Hitchcock was considered a maker of silly big-budget genre films by his contemporaries and his films are maybe the most analysed ever.

greenboots

So sorry, I just went through this too. Highly recommend embracing movie mindset and watching as many movies as possible as a distraction from grief. <3

greenboots

Talking about Bush era time capsules made me think of Jarhead, which is interesting to go back and watch. It's like at this turning point culturally.

Eamon Short

Wait does that Deja vu trailer have the music from the end of all the Saw movies? Also loved Hell on earth but I've been hyped for Movie Mindset since the announcement

J.P. McD.

Don’t know about that particular one, but a lot of trailers reuse scores from other movies yea

pixelsnbits

What was with the scene in Deja Vu around 25 minutes in where Denzel and Val are standing around with a group talking shop while the camera swoops around with several cuts and in the background of each shot are computer monitors with women in lingerie in them. It feels like this was an era of movies that did easy-to-spot subliminal messaging.

Danny

Deja Vu: “…The kind of happiness that could arouse envy in us exists only in the air we have breathed, among people we could have talked to, women who could have given themselves to us. In other words, our image of happiness is indissolubly bound up with the image of redemption…” Walter Benjamin

Jordan Brewer

Rewatched Man On Fire and they forreal don’t make movies like that no more!the opening credits…every kill scene is him just torching people or places…Creasy keeps getting shot..I completely forgot how he was under arrest after the kidnapping…Denzel’s quiet confidence…Christopher Walken doing his best. A great film with a peaceful ending for Creasy.

Nick Muscatiello

I find your failure to get the “I picked the wrong week to stop smoking hash” line as a reference to Airplane! disturbing

Marcus Wrightus

Just watched man on fire. Jesus that movie made me go through every single emotion known to man. I don't know why I never watched it before.

Benjamin O Levine

The Desus and Mero Denzel interview is verrrrry cool this made me have to rewatch, hard recommend

Lawson

Great episode. Hate what you did to the terminator music at the end credits though. Garbage rendition of a sick movie song.

Goji

Thanks for this- went on a Scott/Washington bender in our house and loved it. Ended with Unstoppable. Only thing- why is there a city of 750,000 people in Western PA? Anyway, thanks so much!

YukiNukem64x

Finally listening to the 1st MM episode. Never watched any Tony movies, but I agree with the dunk on Ridley.

YukiNukem64x

17:10 okay watching this movie, I have been convinced.

YukiNukem64x

Wait didn't realize. Didn't realize that Jim Caviziel was playing himself in this film.

Hannah Mosman

omg I need Will to watch Uptown Girls and for there to be a MM episode about it asap please. I vote Riding in Cars with Boys for a double feature Brittany Murphy ep…a girl can dream lol

mutism

I’m starting my journey through MM and this was a great first ep. It’s crazy how Scott’s films track enormous world events - Russian imperialism in crimson tide, the patriot act in enemy of the state, etc. his suicide was a tragic loss to cinema

Hardcore Virgin

Yeah but in airplane he at least doesn’t say smoking glue…he sniffs it etc…. I’ve seen ppl snort vodka smoke all sorts of stupid shit Eat full boxes of blood pressure medication whatever weird and old fashioned way to get high And I ain’t never saw no man snort hash Now I isn’t saying it’s impossible I’m just saying that … Well actually. You’re right. That’s good characterization. The sex god is a nerd and nerds like airplane and they’re not cool and they don’t do drugs and it would make sense that if he is riffing on a quote from airplane the sex god would make a mistake. The boy and girl on this episode should be ashamed of themselves. It took me writing this comment to realize that. I apologize for wasting not only your time. But mine. I love this episode.

Hardcore Virgin

Wait. I just went back to confirm this. It is around 26 minutes. Denzel is meeting with the special unit after the autopsy of Claire. Confirming her suv had been stolen. “Solve her murder solve the bombing” On three different screens we see a woman in black lingerie. I find this fascinating. Was I tricked into being attracted to ladies?? What is the message?

TurpStrankton

I first saw this movie at 11 watching over my aunts shoulder when I was supposed to be asleep, remembered it at 19 and watched it once, now I own it on disk and have watched it over 20 times since this episode came out, best movie of its type, The Mark Had Been Made is the best instrumental track ever

tysonw81

No, not "bizarre". That was ungenerous. Only strange to me, personally. I meant it only to express my own point-of-view some others may resonate with. I know some, too, have interests dissimilar to my own, thanks.