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Movie Mindset 05 - We Must Be Doing Something Right! Altman’s America feat. Andrew Hudson (Patreon)

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2023-05-24 11:00:04
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2025-08-12 21:26:16
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Will & Hesse are joined by Episode 1’s Andrew Hudson to discuss Robert Altman’s McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971) and Nashville (1975). One an unconventional & drearily romantic western, one a sprawling conversational epic following 24 characters across 5 days leading up to the bicentennial in Nashville, both hilarious and haunting expressions of Altman’s vision of America in the 1970’s.

NEXT WEEK: it’s greased up 'n gritty 80’s Clint Eastwood with Sudden Impact (1983) & Tightrope (1984)

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Alexander Fuchs

two of my all time favorites :) cant wait!

Patrick Clark Dycus

What will the next ep cover? I’m trying to stay watched up

JD

OMG MORE ALTMAN PLEASE NEVER GIT ENOUGH. Love all the 70s ones but recently rewatched Kansas City which is amazing with Belafonte. Other underrated 90s ones are Dr T & Gingerbread Man. Also loved the deep cut adaptations Come back to the five and dime and Streamers. Streamers, man.

Of course

Did everyone just decide to start calling him Ned Beety? Growing up in the 1970s, it was Ned Baytee... and that's the way it's pronounced in the opening sequence of the movie Will mentioned. So, I just youtubed clips to track the pronunciation change, right to the point where CBS News announced the death of Ned Beety... and now I feel ashamed. Thank you, Chapo Trap House.

chapotraphouse

Sorry forgot to add to description here. Just posted full schedule for back half of series, but next week is 80’s Clint Eastwood with Sudden Impact (1983) & Tightrope (1984)

Doug Cartel

Americans love to describe themselves, and be described by others, as 'relentlessly optimistic', and so if you start talking about the bad shit, it doesn't matter if you already talked up the good shit, you're just a 'cynic' for even mentioning the bad shit. So much of the public dialogue I see where people argue with each other is predicated on this idea that mere mention of a thing is endorsement of it, and I think that comes from that American brain virus that makes us avoid even thinking about 'the bad shit'. It's doesn't allow for nuance, just Manichaen warfare between normies.

Doug Cartel

the more I think about it the more I feel like most movies are just Hollywood critiquing/ogling itself.

JD

I will always cry when Barbara Harris picks up the mic

Dennis Claxton

Is that all there is, a few guys laughing at each other?

M.R. Alchemist

Classic Anime? Akira, Patlabor, etc.

Jim McKenna

Altman is a real blind spot in my movie watching. Somehow I’ve never gotten into his films. I’m trying again thanks to this episode.

Nick Muscatiello

You did not have the courage to review A Prairie Home Companion, Popeye, Brewster McCloud yourselves or Gosford Park with Felix specifically. Shame on you. Also great episode

Jon Spiegler

The Player, Long Goodbye, 3 Women are the key Altmans

George Lochinski

Imo the best way to get into Altman = Nashville, Brewster McCloud, McCabe, Long Goodbye, Short Cuts

Aaron Scott

I love this series so much!! If I wasn't already a gray wolf I would subscribe to this podcast...I'm glad we're a socialist here because I would pay more for the joy you two, and sometimes three are giving me

William

Still not sure what movie mindset is

Stephen Giroux

Nobody’s mentioning Come Back To the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean, but that’s a beautiful movie

Thomas Carroll

It's the American way--living life through films

Chris T

A Satoshi Kon ep

Chris T

It’s when your mom goes down on me in a theater

Yeah but in my defense

Never loved Nashville but enjoyed your discussion. McCabe & Mrs Miller is an all-time great film about America.

Corey Reynolds

I live in Nashville and I think this is one of the classics that could not be remade but revisisted. Bachelorette parties, rich developers, insane politicians. And people from NY, CA, and the Midwest moving here to pursue their country music and red state dreams. Nashville isn’t near as conservative as outsiders think we are. We were a blue island in a red state until we were recently redistricted into GOP control. P.S. a lot more Brits like country than I ever imagined. Kinda odd to me.

james

make a separate patreon tier for this content. lots of us do not care about it and don't want to pay for it. i am here to pay for the OG content, not an unrelated side project.

Jon

What is your complaint? You aren't paying anything more, and you're still getting your regularly scheduled slop every week. Just ignore it if you don't want to listen.

Julie Baxter

Happened to catch MASH recently on one of the streaming channels, and while the homophobic and sexist shit is stupid and annoying it still holds up pretty well, particularly the subversively skewered football game with jocks smoking blunts.

Jason Chapa

Folks this was a great episode.

HuffingGasInTheShed

For me it’s the understanding that movies are like books in that they are a snap of a time/place/mindset and they don’t have to be “good” to enjoy watching them. The show has certainly given me a new appreciation for movies

Scott Grabel

McCabe sounds similar to Trump’s grandfather’s story as a pimp in Alaska exchanging women for literal gold dust.

Bob Busby

are you paying for it

Bugger Off

Needs a postscript episode with Felix to discuss Altman’s Gosford Park.

carl

wills dad was way cooler than mine--my first deep, rated R movie was ConAir

Colin C.

The only Altman movie I've seen is Popeye, which always struck me as really unique film, but it sounds like that's just Altman's style. Nice.

Burlack Sapp

Gotta grab a Princess Swish and listen in

Allen Butt

Phenomenal episode, & thank you for giving me the idea to rewatch Nashville this weekend. The only thing that made my hackles rise was the statement that 3 Women is "the original Mulholland Drive," when the original 3 Women/Mulholland drive is Persona.

Smallbusinessman

Series is great. Fwiw, I don't think Miler gives a shit about McCabe other than as a paycheck. Source: myself knowing lots of junkie hookers.

etienne

most of those movie mindset episodes, so good i listened twice so far

etienne

my spicy take is that Akira is not that good but Ghost in the Shell is the one transcendental animu movie

James Burkeen

My favorite movie as a kid. It turned out to be an Altman gateway drug.

Dan

Altman is GOATed but Andrew is being a bit charitable on Bob’s personal life/how he interacted with people. Cassavetes actually casted Lynn Carlin in FACES because he felt bad for her being Altman’s secretary and overhearing him screaming at her!

Colorado people’s press

Fell a little behind, but I am so glad I am doing this, I felt physically ill at the end of Nashville. I have never had such a visceral reaction to a movie before. I really. Just seeing everyone move on without much issue just felt so real and presiciant. I’m excited to here what you have to say about these movies.

Adam Foster

was inspired to watch Nashville before I listened to the podcast and I just have to set right a misconception about Barbara Jean’s church: she’s not at a failing church she’s at the hospital chapel/church which is why the soldier and the man whose wife is dying are there

Last Years Man

I have been obsessed with McCabe and Mrs. Millers since I saw it on a midnight movie on my local station in the 90's. It is so great to finally hear other people talking about it.

Last Years Man

Going from Altman to Cassavetes sounds like jumping from the fying pan into the fire to me

PIPPA TANDY

Loved this. Nashville is one of my top ten. Can you please do The Night of the Hunter, which is another?

Shane

> His renown was such that his name was used for a gag in Robert Altman’s film “Nashville” in 1975. Henry Gibson, playing a veteran country singer in the movie, is unhappy with a long-haired session player named Frog, and finally exclaims: “When I ask for Pig, I want Pig. Now you get me Pig, and then we’ll be ready to record this here tune.”

John Antifa

I watched McCabe & Mrs. Miller in response to this episode and it was revelatory.

Rene Saller

3 Women is also fantastic. I think of it as the redneck Persona.

Robby Gross

I was thinking more of Epstein and Mrs. Maxwell but I think you’re more right

John Antifa

You've sold me with that description.

Lizard

McCabe and Mrs Miller broke my heart and ruined my life

Hardcore Virgin

I come from the future. Your wish has been granted.