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811 - El Nuevo Camelot feat. Palma (3/1/24) (Patreon)

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2024-03-01 23:23:56
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2026-06

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Sweet Palma aka Max stops by to discuss El Salvador and their epic bitcoin president Nayib Bukele. Palma takes us on a humorous and harrowing tour of the recent history of El Salvador, the development of their parties, and the issues that animate Salvadorans, as well as what Bukele’s Whole Thing can illustrate of current political trends. We also touch on recent developments around Israel/Gaza, Trump’s claims about languages “no one’s ever heard”, and Meek Mill’s mastery of crisis PR.

Support Palma and the whole Seeking Derangements crew over at https://www.patreon.com/seekingderangements

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SCB

*at the sound of slop, one thousand piggies rush the gate*

Here, Try This

Anat Schwartz proves what we learned in the Cobra episode; Aunt Magic is evil

KatrinaJadeHelm

The last time I took in a chapo performance on Feb 29, some very funny things happened

Schwartz666

I promise I'm not related 😮‍💨

bator

What event is the picture from?

Jaime Christley

I can’t believe you all are going in on nephews. Damn.

Andrew Cason

Will, I feel like you should do an episode on Ionesco's play Rhinoceros. Gene Wilder was in the movie version. Every episode when you express your horror and absurdity with Gaza I always feel like you are channeling Berenger from that play.

james

lol a reaction to leap year being, “wait, shouldn’t it be March?!..”

Steven Miles

I thought the Grayzone and Electronic Intifada broke this news and The Intercept story was really just a follow up?

K H

They're on purest adrenochrome, since the guest was asking.

K H

Felix is 100% correct. Will's follow up is basically the only viable path. Some fighter pilot that has even a sliver of the dignity of Aaron Bushnell to just unload everything they have into a meeting between Bibi and whatever ghouls court his hellish path. To stop nazism you have to kill Hitler and anyone else in the upper echelon. To end it definitively...well...no free passes or rides to S. America for anyone down to the lowest grunt. A lot of rope or a lot of lead.

Drake

It looks like some sort of bitcoin event. But it could also just be Ms el Salvador or something like that.

Alex B

Biden's dog should be called Navy, with the amount of servicemen he's had in his mouth

Jonathan Schwartz

Last leap year I saw Chapo live in Sacramento. Halcyon days those were.

Michael

Who would have thought that Diddy is worse than Suge Knight.

plainwrap

Israel sure knew which button to press to get the United States to join an international lynch mob. It's in our country's DNA--all you gotta do is say a white woman got raped and we'll kill anyone, anywhere, no proof required.

William

And they all get shot by the spooked pig farmers

William

Um the intercept was the first, like, reel journalism outlet to break the story?

Steve Nutt

There was some deranged British Israeli bitch on Sky News the other day essentially saying that most casualties in Gaza were the result of misfired Temu rockets. Shockingly, no one leapt across the desk and crushed her head like Vince Vaughn does at the end of Riot in Cell Block 9

Coyotes

The catholic bishops in any area with a heavy evangelical presence do need to be excommunicated

Enoch

This shit is a goy block. I only eat goy blocks.

Justin Macy

Michigan uncommitted voters represent

Shaw Digby

What’s the outro song?

Jackm

chapo needs closer observance of EI & grayzone

Blorst of times

Look forward to the Central American History podcast.

Poppy Chulo

Good ep. Time to go home and game until five AM.

Michael Landreth

It’s a valiant effort, but they just don’t care. The Dems will lose the election rather than change course on Israel. This is a conscious choice on their part. Dem leadership is obviously aware of their situation and it doesn’t matter.

Aj

I'm from sac

creepytwig

My boyfriend's sister just returned from her Mormon mission in El Salvador, and the way her family talked about Bukele made my skin crawl ("I'm glad he made it safe for her to serve her mission!"), but I still don't know how to fathom the guy. She said that many families she taught had one or more male relatives who were imprisoned without trial.

creepytwig

So I've been hoping for someone who understands it to explain it to me, because I hear about Bukele and I think Pinochet 😭

Fat Cobra

As an north American it's foolish not to discuss the sanctions "We push on everyone but our selfs." Please understand most of us US Americans are disgusted and furious about our foreign policy. FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA

NYCM&AHole

Better slop than Tuesday.

etienne

🎵 gaming 9 to 5 [more like, 5am]

Willie

All my Latino family are Colombian or boricua and they agree Argentinians are bad people and I have no reason to believe otherwise

Maciek

I mean, Israel learned from the best. We’re the ogs of propaganda, and we know how to market to the audience we’ve spent decades being primed for certain cultural hot points. It’s fun to think about that the sing songy minuteman led to such wildly successful war recruitment that it got adapted and repeated for ww2 and since than it’s become the manual on how to market everything from war to coffee.

Maciek

Like, im high as a kite but the numbers of deaths just from the hard work of marketers and pr scumbags in the last 100 years has to top the leaderboard of biggest scumbag professions. Tobacco, oil industry, plastics, you can just name one industrial fuck up after the other and behind it will be a well oiled campaign being run by some very smart and ivy educated worms who were able to convince the non-demonic that the simple truth we see in front of our eyes is in fact wrong, and the truth is buried somewhere behind layers of symbology, and that without their expert hands, we would all be lost with our dumb brains in this increasingly complex world. This some good weed, but what’s really funny is as far as I know, the at stupid anti-marketing marketing magazine, the ones who came up with the 99% occupy language, that is the best of their abilities as masters of truth to try and offset some of the evil they’re responsible for. No giant leaks of plans, no tobacco meetings where evil is planned out. Nothing but a fucking ironic magazine held up as their beacon of rebellion. Fuck I hate pr people

Su'ad Yoon

When I lived in Brazil everyone also talked about how shitty Argentinians are

eduard karpoev

I can't have 1 million Italian & Irish people come to my ROC church because they think the Pope is woke or I will establish neo Segregation against Catholics for entering my safe space.

socialist heretic

It spreading to other states and forcing the Biden admin to further embarrass itself. You're right but it's worthwhile.

socialist heretic

Weird defense of religion on behalf of the Pope by guest

Mark Schneider

So kind of disappointed that Will thinks Ryan Grim & the Intercept deserve credit for discrediting the false Hasbara b.s. about "systematic mass rapes" by "Hamas" when all they did was cut & pasted the original reporting by mainly 3 sources-- The Grayzone, Electronic Intifada & Mondoweiss, & gave them (deliberately) Zero Credit!! That is little short of plagiarism. The Grayzone first exposed the rape & corpse cult Zaka's role in spreading these lies. (Zaka's leader was a mass rapist who received a major Israeli prize then scores of people raped by him came forward to testify, so he tried to kill himself and died after years in a coma.) The only indirect credit given to those dangerous "lefties" who did the original reporting was one of Grim's sources who smeared the Grayzone as "the Ghoul Zone"-- Opposing US Empire and media lies is ghoulish? Grim is an establishment simp and it's unprofessional to steal others' work & never acknowledge them.

Christian Johnson

My wife is Mexican & she believes that about Argentines & Cubans

MATT TRIANO

Steal facts? Reporting the story as it happened is all that is required, it isn't a competition for who was first yes?

HarshMalarkey

Abunimah was on the show like a week ago

Jackm

Max Blumenthal was still salty as hell and went into it in great detail on the grayzone livestream yesterday.

fried egg

trump was talking about poto and cabengo speak when he said that

etienne

grayzone can do some good reporting sometimes but by anecdotal evidence it seems like everyone revolving around it is terminally insane. unlike you op you sound very normal

etienne

like when they went down the vaccine rabbit hole during the virus and got INCREDIBLY cringe about it

MATT TRIANO

I don't watch Grayzone for the vibe and odd focus

cori

would the good vibes regime have a vibe curator

Jaime Christley

Russell Brand - probable creep/abuser/etc, also jumped on the Zionist brigade quickly after 10/7 Jonah Hill - probable creep/abuser/etc, rumored to be a real asshole Elisabeth Moss - Scientologist Rose Byrne - married Bobby Cannavale; nothing wrong with that per se I just don't like his face Aziz Ansari - got MeToo'd early Ellie Kemper - not her fault but the Veiled Prophet thing is crazy Jake Johnson - he was in that Tom Cruise Mummy movie. anybody see this? terrible film TJ Miller - rape allegations, also called in a bomb threat to LGA Lars Ulrich - he's just a prick. Napster anyone? fuck him. and now Sean Combs It's official. GET HIM TO THE GREEK has the most cursed cast of any film.

james

Wtf, Will left out that IMMEDIATELY after Meek Mill’s hilarious tweet, it was discovered he was following a gay black porn page on Twitter!!!

Mark Schneider

Uhm, no. I don't recall them being Trumpy or vaccine deniers, rather they were critical of Big Pharma which I agree with, & gov't. lies about it (e.g. Fauci denied for months it was airborne, eventually apologized for his "mistake.")

Mark Schneider

Thanks, Ettiene. I am glad to know that you think only Normies should follow Chapo. That is cringe.

Mark Schneider

Don't know much about journalism do you Matt?

etienne

grayzoners still not beating the insane allegations

Kamran Husain

ay baby put your pussy on the blockchain

David Silberberg

What was the podcast palma mentioned besides age of napoleon

etienne

you know when felix raves about the China Daily twitter feed and its wholesome videos? that would be it I believe

cori

and daily manul

Jaime Christley

I just want to say Jake Johnson seems fine. He’s on the list as a joke. I’m pointing that out because I think I have to. Having said that, I’m not kidding about the Mummy movie, that thing is washed up. Cruise definitely smartened up and recommitted himself to the right franchises after that

T

The History of Rome, I think

Matthew Krueger

It's already been asked, but, Mr. Wade, what's that outro song? Please don't make me download shazam again. Is shazam even still a thing?

Jake

I need the name of the track at the end of

Jaime Christley

the Gorin stans are in control. enjoy the show.

Jaime Christley

"a vibe curator" a ... vibrator, if you will

Cardboard

New york crimes, lying fake news media

Jesse

This guest sucks. I miss Matt.

Karim El-Hayawan

Max confuses concentration camp with extermination camp.

Matthew Krueger

Painel De Controle - Relax (courtesy of Denise Fillion over in the chat)

Olivia Kali

Will's righteous fury keeps me going

Adam Menendez

The saddest part about Senator Tuberville is that he used to be a college educator

Petrorenminbi

Democrats want to win with Republican votes. Ok, now go get them!

CJ

Sactown mentioned let’s go

Simon Maraya

I'm not a Max Blumenthal fan, but it makes sense to me that a fringy journo who really belives in his work would show up wherever will have him. I don't imagine he's in any position to turn down jobs. I also don't think it benefits oneself to write off anyone even tangentially associated with Russia as like, an enemy of truth.

Michael

"t's unprofessional to steal others' work & never acknowledge them." The Grayzone has been accused of ripping people off as well (Eva Bartlett has claimed they repeated what she said about the Syrian Civil War without credit). I can't stand the guy but Ben Norton said it best about the Grayzone. https://x.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1709734075697676394?s=20

Derek Winter Schultz

Wasnt trying to start any arguments, just wanted to point out that the article cited the orgs. that Mark claimed were not given credit...not sure if Mark read the article.

Poppy Chulo

Aziz Ansari didn't do anything wrong. And I hate having to defend him. And TJ Miller is an asshole and not funny but also we don't know he raped anyone.

Antipaganda

The piggies were actually run over by the slop truck, which... makes it better?

Fernando

Every guest sucks lately ..

KimM

Grayzone, Electric Intifada, and Mondoweiss debunked the ny times hamas rape story first. Just worth acknowledging, because this knowledge has been out there months before the intercept took ownership of the story.

Kevin Price

Lol, I think William Vollman is involved in that micro housing project

Lydia Maria Child

Yep, and they never get properly credited. Has Chapo even ever mentioned Aaron Mate? It's that sort of thing that illuminates that secret liberal line that SHALL NOT BE CROSSED...while also somehow must be denied at all costs. (how exactly can one categorically refuse to cross a line, and also deny its existence at the same time?)

drewb

Professor Potatotown

Jaime Christley

I modified the post to make it more accurate. (I'm not harming Ansari by stating that he got MeToo'd. His career did take a hit.) (This is the maximum amount I want to talk about Aziz Ansari or almost anybody in the fame-osphere.)

Doug Cartel

conservatives are so one-dimensional that yeah, a lot of them are just pissed that immigrants "dont pay taxes" (which are theft, by the way, according to these same people) so you just make them fill out a government form and the conservatives slowly return to a normal blood pressure measure (comparatively speaking)

Doug Cartel

Palma once shared a picture of a dude with a pussy fleshlight sticking out of his ass so idk guys should we believe him????????????????????????????? about the sean combs thing?????????????????

Poppy Chulo

Check out Electric Intifada for up to date combat information in Gaza. The have some great stuff.

Samuel Matthew Hilton

Where does it say Bukele punched anyone. I was embarrassingly called out on this! I thought such a reputable news outlet would be above this.

Shanti

I had to stand next to Mayor Steinberg at a press event last year and it was the most awkward ten minutes of my life

RG13

Dr. Wolff, please elaborate.

Jessica S

This episode was amazing, you should have Max on more!!

Scrub_Club_is_Life

I spit my latte out when Terrence said "One of the best conversations I've ever had in my life with another human being with my dick out" xD

Ian Firstenberg

Dear god what is the name of the outro track

Boostiiyo

As a salvi chapo enjoyer this episode was great and I’d love to hear more from yall about Central America. Shoutout to yall for putting in those cumbia transitions lol

Jaime Christley

hi if you are wondering what the outro track is and/or what the other podcast Palma mentions, please scroll through the comments. hot local answers are waiting for your queries.

MinkL0af

I'm surprised that the fact was not brought up that Bukele and his brother moved into politics against their father's advice after attending the School of the Americas. Also his brother appears to be calling the shots and is extremely implicated in some top-tier Latin American political conspiracies, with plenty of spooky connections. There's a whole ass Trueanon episode to be had here.

Jason Matthews

That Iran Contra money more likely than not funded the development of Bitcoin adds symmetry to all this: Bukele brought it back to its source.