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Hallo loves.

Voiceramble time. It's about 20 minutes, and I'm very half-asleep.

You can also listen on soundcloud (or download the mp3 from soundcloud) HERE.

Greetings from Aotearoa New Zealand, my friends.

I'm disoriented and still jetlagged as fuck and sometimes that's when I wake up with things just bubbling out of my brain. In the middle of last night, I woke up with an exploding head full of ideas about pain, trauma, ego and art, and I rolled around in bed for a few minutes and they slipped out before I had a chance to capture or write anything down. Back to sleep I went.

Early in the morning, I got up and felt like I might has well voice-ramble these random thoughts at you before they slipped away again.

The ingredients. No take-away really.

Just foods for thoughts.

One thing - the biggest thing - I am loving and appreciating about the patreon right now is the way I can dump, think, rough draft, workshop, bounce, ask, unload here without much second thought. Eventually, I'm going to write another book; eventually (sooner than later, I hope), I'm going to write this new Dresden Dolls record. Let it begin here. This is where I'm going to sit and think and reduce in my little cave and shake all of my thoughts and ideas down to their essential components.

You don't have to tune in, ever. That's not how this works.

Think of this patreon as my own personal NPR, or PBS, or BBC. It's always on, I'm always there spewing and blathering my news and reflection, but just because you've paid for it doesn't mean you have to tune in 24/7. That would drive a person MAD.

It's going to be a firehose of unfinished and unadorned Amanda-thoughts, as I process the last year, the last three years, the last fourteen years, the meaning of my band, the pandemic, the whole lot. But that's what my blog always was. Proudly unedited and messy and real and true and on the fly.

And now, finally, I get paid a salary to produce. More on that in the ramble below.

My impressions of being back in Aotearoa are too raw and fresh to even contemplate, but they'll come eventually, after they compost a bit.

Here's a little photo dump, meanwhile....

Ash & Neil on the ferry over to Waiheke from the mainland.


Second swim of the year belongs to you, Waiheke.

I lad some lunch/kai today at the local Marae (Māori meeting house) with my old friend Susi Newborn, Mike Smith and his daughter Bianca Ranson, who I met through Susi and the Protect Pūtiki movement here on Waiheke Island. My thoughts are necessarily expanding.

Back in the arms of the Kiwis. I missed it. I missed this.

And I hadda post this....just because it amuses me, is my friend Zoe Douglas. She's my local GP here on the Island and when I left, I loaned her my eBike. 

Now my eBike is famous, because it made the cover of the Gulf News.

YEAHHHH.


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Here's Alex's transcript (thank you, Alex, we lovvvve you).

Good morning, my loves.

I've been thinking a lot the last couple days about trauma, and pain, and the supposed purchasing power of fame and recognition. I was joking with some friends the other day that you have to be really careful sleeping with and dating stand up comedians, because they usually carry so much trauma with them, and while they are funny and delightful and amusing on stage, when you get them behind closed doors and into bed, there can be a lot of agony.

Greetings from New Zealand. I just woke up. And I love you.

And I'm really jetlagged, but I managed to stay up last night until about 10 o'clock. I was very proud of myself. I was exhausted. And there is rain slashing down on the roof The weather here is insanely dramatic. It is as beautiful as I remember it, and the weather is making everything feel ten times weirder.

So I mentioned in my New Years post that I was thinking about working on a new book. And I've been exploring a couple of ideas for a new book for a while, and I think there are overlapping things, and things that are really piquing my inner curiosity right now, about myself, those around me, and in an interesting way, in the macro-sized vacuum black hole of America, and the teeny little micro-souls of the people that I've gotten to know over the past 46 years. And I have been thinking about trauma and pain, and scale of need in other departments. 

I have been thinking about what trauma does to the direction in which your human feet perambulate, and I've been thinking about what trauma looks like when it is not healed by the community, and what trauma looks like when it is just a free-floating agent. 

I have been looking with horrified interest, as I'm sure many of you are, at the story about the football player... Is it Damar? I think it's Damar... {it is Damar) who is lying in critical condition in the ICU, after collapsing on the football field. And I look at this metaphor - let's call it a metaphor - of men crashing into other men for humanity's collective entertainment and enjoyment, as a good starting point for this discussion as well. And what drives a human being to need to achieve that scale of recognition.

What drove me, as a little girl, and then a woman in her 20s, to need to be so recognised for my musical talent, or my stage charisma, or my writing abilities, or what have you? 

And where is the line between a kind of healthy community eco-system in which gifts and talents are recognised and cooked into the meal of the community, and what is the flipside of that? 

I'm thinking about anorexic 7-year-olds in beauty contests. I am thinking about men crashing into other men with such velocity that they kill each other. I am thinking about what happened to Michael Jackson. I am thinking about Prince. I am thinking about Janis Joplin. I am thinking about the hunger that comes with trauma. 

I've written about it before, not for a long time, but there is a Buddhist story about the hungry ghost. And the image of the hungry ghost is this angry, insatiable, hungry ghost, with a gigantic maw, and a skinny neck. So it eats and eats and eats, but it can't swallow and digest. 

And the lack of balance, the lack of symmetry, or proportion in this ghost, is what I think happens to a lot of human beings in this society, when our hunger outstrips our ability to digest, because our community has abandoned us. And the community, the village, the functional village, is the enzyme that traditionally would help us digest our own ego. And if it is gone, you are left with a deep hunger and no digestive materials. 

And following on, this makes me think about hatred, anger, and fear. Because they are all wrapped up in this same discussion. And just because somebody has a hunger, or a passion, or desire, clearly does not mean that they get to attain or obtain the object of their desire. And so on the flipside of this catastrophic village eco-system dysfunctioning, you also have incredible disappointment, and anger, and resentment, when human beings feel that they are not living up to their potential. 

I am thinking of the thousands of people I know who feel that they had a creative calling and it was beaten out of them. I am thinking about people who have levelled volcanic-sized hatred at me, and people like me, because they are jealous and resentful of artists. I am thinking about people who kill other people because they are so upset. I am thinking about America, and her problem with violence and guns. I am thinking about school shootings. I am thinking about what happens on either end of the tube when a community and a village does not function properly, and who gets spit out which end. 

So on one hand you have a 7-year-old anorexic in a beauty pageant, and on the other hand you have a 5-year-old boy walking into a high school and shooting all his classmates.

I am thinking about all of this, a lot.

I am thinking about what has happened to our men in this catastrophe. I am thinking about what has happened to our women. I am thinking about what has happened to childhood. I am thinking about what has happened to the experience of ageing, and old age. I am thinking about the rise of fascism, and I am thinking about what the fuck has happened, and where did this all go wrong?

You know, just some light, philosophical thinking. 

That's what I'm thinking about.

I'm thinking about how much I love my patrons. Not just because it's nice to have patrons and draw a salary, but because this system has shielded me in a way, from needing to serve certain ego gods within myself. And also because patronage isn't really scaleable, I don't think. 

The same way I think New Zealand did really well in the pandemic because it was small and manageable and negotiable. You have a nice group of people who all pretty much know each other, and they looked around and agreed that they would just do a thing, and support an idea.

I think mega-stardom - or the desire for it - is inherently sort of catastrophic. 

We come from villages. And we're supposed to serve, know, and be known by our villages, for what we can contribute. 

And so the village can scale, but it still needs to feel like a village. If it doesn't, things start to feel very wrong, and lonely. 

And this is why, after seven years of Patreon, I'm so happy that it feels like a group of people that I kinda know. And I can't tell you how good it felt at the New Years show to just be able to greet, even if it was for five minutes, be able to greet my high-level patrons. And I know these people. It's Weston, it's Tom... It feels grounding and real. They came to see my show because, here they are, because they're like family, because they care about me and Brian, because they wanna see us do well on stage. There's no sense of me being high and them being low. Nor the other way round. 

It just feels like there are these people who have helped me because... I don't know, because they thought it was some kind of worthy investment. This band, this music, this artist, this offering.

I don't know if Michael Jackson felt that about his label. I doubt it. 

That's my early morning muse today.

I love you.

I'm gonna get up, and face the tropical storm.

Thank you all for being my patrons, and being beautiful.

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More soon.


xxx

AFP

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Emily

Hello Amanda and all of Patreon. I just listened to the voice recording after a truly difficult day. My landlord only cares about money and decided to rent the camper in the back to a person who ended up drunkenly threatening me for absolutely no reason in our first encounter, and I felt dumbstruck… I haven’t felt safe where I live for a long time and battle daily anxiety. Your voice memo helped calm me down. I could truly relate to the part about unresolved trauma and the lack of a village in the societies of the world today. I also recognized myself where you talk about people who have had their creativity beaten out of them…. Thank you Amanda, thank you for just talking. I feel better now.

Angel Rosen

❤️❤️❤️ I'm glad you made it to NZ with all your pieces! The Patreon turns 8 in March, how should we celebrate? Thank you for making time for us, no matter where you are in the world

Leela

Oh man, I feel this so much. I lost my 14 year old dog on Monday - lymphoma. I held her and looked in her eyes while they euthenaised her. I'd just gotten home from the spending the weekend at Falls Festival, where we had our Spell Bar set up, and where I was doing readings / crafting spells for kids, many of whom were at their first Festival after Melbourne's lockdowns - holding space for their trauma (and their brilliance - man, these Gen Z kids are so fucking cool). I've been thinking a lot about the difference between Trauma and grief - and how trauma messes me up, but I seem to be able to find a sense of peace in grief. (Like, actually - I was more traumatised by saving a strangers life, than I was by my Godmother passing - it's so strange. How can someone being alive be more traumatic than someone dying? I don't understand anything.) Getting back to Yoga this morning made all the difference. It's the first time I've stopped crying. Anyway, all of this feels designed to pressure me to the point where I stop trying to pretend to be an adulting business salesperson and just wholly embrace the Witch life. I've known this for a while, but I've avoided it and now it's like - yeah, Leela. Just do the thing. And now I'm rambling.

angela b

Will listen to the voice ramble when I have a sec (1200 secs) but just to say that a feeling I get from reading your words lately is your heart seems more at peace in NZ/Aotearoa than America right now. Are you feeling that too? Is it just me reading too much between the lines of your posts lately? Love. A

angela b

8?!?! Really?!?!? Holy shit balls, time flies. Amanda is so busy, maybe we patrons need to organize something and invite her. 😉🥳❤️

Catherine

Thank you for all that you think about, and so deeply care about! Thank you for always being so brave to bare your soul wherever you are, with all the beauty of life, the pain and messiness of life, love and all our varied relationships, and for your unique creative spirit! You have made a difference to my life. Thank you.

Barbarella

"I am thinking of the thousands of people I know who feel that they had a creative calling and it was beaten out of them." - Um, hi! 👋

Dorothy Lemoult

Hi Amanda, New Year’s Eve was so epic!! We had to run back to Anaheim so I didn’t have a chance to say hi but we had an amazing evening. Thank you for your artistry. You and Brian sounded incredible! There is something really really cool about hearing you singing these songs, now at 50. I felt that growth inside myself too. It was really cool to have been a fan then and now and mirror your age ( I also had a child at 40). Have you read “in the realm of the hungry ghost” by Gabor maté? Is a book about addiction and attachment but it touches on a lot of what you are talking about! Gabor Maté has a new book out too that he wrote with his son, called The Myth of Normal and it is so so good. Audible has it and his son has the best calming voice. Wanted to share! Kia Ora!!

Alessandor Earnest

I can’t wait to see you!!!! And meet you finally, for the first time. 💛 Big ask, but do you know anyone in Auckland with a couch I could crash on for two nights? My friend who I’m supposed to stay with is going to be out of town the first two nights I am there (11th/12th). I can pay in scratch-made chai and jawharp serenades!

KJ Hawkwood

This is everything I'm thinking about right now too - and trying to figure out where my village is, the good village with the active enzymes. (LOVE LOVE LOVE THAT.) For at least the last 300 years, the goal has been *more*. More money. More eyeballs on you. More of everything. And that in turn required, and created monoculture in every sense - mono everything. That's the death of the village. I know I'm not saying anything a ton of wiser and more knowledgeable people have not also said, much more wisely and insightfully. But it's what I felt when you said, "And so the village can scale, but it still needs to feel like a village." My thought is, "The village can scale right up to the point it's not a village anymore, and then it has to achieve homeostasis." We live now at the peak of anti-homeostasis (no snappy term for that, apparently.) All organic life forms, including human groups, only thrive in homeostasis. Scale doesn't have to be the enemy of it, but it does tend to disrupt it, and that disruption is usually of lethal proportions. The relationship between scale and homeostasis is the key conversation, to me. If there is anyone on this earth outside of indigenous cultures who can bring us a new way to have that conversation, it's you. (And you are in conversation *with* indigenous cultures, which matters a great deal and I am sure is yeasting this dough in fantastic and necessary ways.) I am really really looking forward to what you evoke and give voice to in this territory. Beyond that, I'm so happy to feel how happy you are when you're in NZ. May it feed all of you so deeply. <3

Carmen J

Home to EN ZED... home to the village. <3

Nat Torkington

Love the idea of an 8 year Patreon birthday bash. What could we do? Perform (play, sing, read, screenshare) our own art? Ask Amanda to read our fav posts?

Ofel Epicorus

Welcome back, Amanda! My partner and I listened to your voice rumble as he was coming down from a potential panic attack. How calming is your voice, and your presence. We have booked tickets to the show on Waiheke, and I can't wait to see you again in person. I will be starting a new job two days after, and it feels somewhat suiting that I will get to experience the Waihekeness right before then. Go easy.

Drag Queen Jesus

It is really nice to have a sense of community with you Amanda! It really is. I'm determined to meet you one of these days. I have a feeling it will be highly amusing and touching. And I keep getting this imagery of you giving me a hug and me bursting into deep sobs for an agonizingly long time but in a way that is very cathartic for us both. How big is your drive for Mega Stardom? I've really been wanting to talk to you about how you may or may not be building accountability and checks and balances of power into your life. It seems to be SO important for internationally well-known artists to do in order to maintain sanity and a sense of connection to reality and you're a really great person and I don't want you to loose that sense of connection to yourself and your fellow artists that you seem to hold so dearly. Don't mind me I'm just the mental-health faerie today my dear. Wishing you all the best! (And hoping to get you backed into an email-corner and FORCE you to collaborate with me ::laughs maniacally with not a single speck of stardom-seeking-gleam in the back of eyes at all::) "No."

Coila

Thank you for the update, AFP! And thank you, Alex! ☺️

amandapalmer

go easy too. i find the motu calming. it’ll be nice to see you here and hug you in person. x

amandapalmer

ohhhh. thank you for this wonderful and understanding comment. yes - all of this. and yes. it’s feeding me.

Jemima Louise Johnson

Please understand that this is said with the utmost respect: I love to hear you chatting shit for twenty minutes! I miss chatting shit and listening to others chat shit. It is a massive part of my thinking process and living process and since having kids there has been an utter drought of shit being chat. I am a hungry ghost for chatting shit I swear. - from a very gloomy January morning in Scotland.

Hannah Schumacher

How nice to wake up to this 7 hours later and listen to it in bed while it is still the same morning sweeping over the planet. Some really beautiful thoughts. The hunger that comes with trauma. Even on a physical level - Thinking of how my concussion is making me ravenous right now it makes complete sense to me. Sometimes we will consume anything for a chance of getting the right nutrients for healing, no matter the byproducts, no matter the overstepping of boundaries, it's about survival. Trauma makes vampires out of us. Thank you for sharing this lovely voice ramble with us, enjoy the heck out of NZ and the ocean and the people! x

Poison Girl

Neil is there with you? Really? Ugh.

Sahrami

I find hope in this miserable money driven world from radical solidarity and free culture; in our small radical crosstitch group i have the feeling of a small caring village; that there is still hope and happiness and anticapitalistic culture in this world. Thanks amanda for the ramble, made my morning with food for thought Hope everyone is having a good day ❤️ if not i send you the warmest of hugs

Dahlia

Just some light philosophical morning thinking! You are right about unhealed trauma and invalidation fueling hatred and in many cases death, catastrophe, the rise of fascism, and so on. The bigger question is how to stop it when the forces at play are so large, the unmet needs so many, the patterns so repeatable rippling through generations. There is so much we can fight to change and that which can improve a village, and then there’s that which is beyond our control. It’s worth writing about. The U.S. in particular has some deep divides, priorities not shared by the many villages that make up the whole. Mindfulness and empathy can and should be taught. Trauma should be addressed, but reaching every person is the problem. The people who need support the most tend to be the ones who fall through the cracks.

Sean Parent

Your thoughts about comedians, the football metaphor and Damar Hamlin made me think about your book, and the Bride. Specifically, the fact that so many artists/athletes/entertainers are in large part led to their career by their trauma, whether it be as an outlet, or to try to feel self worth. But so often that path leads to more trauma (art imitating life imitating art, or in this case trauma creating art, creating trauma). I remember your book focusing so much on the positives of the Bride, which obviously far outweighed the negative, but I remember a lot of allusions to traumatic moments. It's a really interesting idea to explore the relationship between art and trauma, as action/reaction, hurt/healing, and the kind of codependent relationship that seems so common.

EmVT

Am listening to the piano improv and Sophie Blackall Lighthouse story you made for us Amanda! It matters that you made it for us, it makes a difference that it was offered freely, specifically for your community. It's so beautiful, remember the pips? :) In the zen community I'm a member of we say hungry ghosts can only eat and drink offerings given freely, with compassion, not what they grasp at for themselves. Maybe most people have a little hungry ghost-ness. I've heard it said that the U.S. is a nation of hungry ghosts. Offerings such as your music (incl the dolls music) help our inner hungry ghosts transition to the human realm because they are offered freely. :) So I think a lot of people support you out of a sense of gratitude (I do). I still get cognitive dissonance sometimes as a member of the village of people who support you, since the idea of art many of us grew up with, as a capitalist tool or something in the background taken for granted, is so twisted. Seeing you in person for the first time last year felt important, to see you are a real flesh and blood human being! To hear your voice in person, unmediated by technology. Even though I don't totally understand how you do what you do (maybe because of that), I love supporting you on patreon :) God, your photos of the ocean, especially the one of Ash with his friend (on IG) are stunning, I hope your future includes Aotearoa as a second home base. What a treasure on earth that place looks to be. No place on earth is perfect, I'm sure, but holy smokes, it must come close! 🌊🌊🌊

Dahlia

Alex, caught an edit needed in the transcript. Should be 15 year old boy not 5 year old. I glanced at the transcript first and that had me really thinking whether I had missed some news but then I listened to it and realized it was 15. Either way troubling, but that one missing number definitely makes a difference in this one particular line of text.

Laura

Amanda, thank you for your words. I am going through a physical and emotional healing process right now ( and have been for month) and again and again I find one sentence, a few words, in your posts that resonate and set something free. It is a wonderful experience and gives me feeling of connection ( to words, to concepts, to people). So, thank you for everything you do.

Laura Wellner

I nearly made myself dizzy nodding my head throughout your ramble, there's a lot I've been chewing on since the pandemic started, and connecting dots back to a time long before that shit, so much material...fragments of it I'm trying to address in my art and my poetry, and making art out of trauma and anger, it has been my healing process for this past year. Thankfully, I'm happier than ever! I'm healing. I'm sure whatever you make of it, it will be beautiful and healing, for you and anybody who needs it. Love & hugs.

Katie Roberts Art

I love what you say, I have been thinking about this sort of topic too and I am so glad to hear insights from your perspective. Thank you for the voiceramble and hope you have a wonderful time n NZ. xx

Cat Stoutner

Your cautionary comment about dating a stand up comedian rings true. I have to believe most of them are trauma piñatas. oh trauma, we carry ourselves with us wherever we go, truly.

Terry Green

Some of my most dear friends have been stand-up comedians and hosts of morning radio shows (a closely analogous line of work) and I agree with you wholeheartedly. And I look forward to your next book!

Len Tower Jr.

Link in next comment unless Patreon deletes it. Or the link is at the end of many of her Patreon posts here. Search for: "JOIN THE SHADOWBOX COMMUNITY FORUM, find your people, and discuss everything"

Len Tower Jr.

Please read or re-read Amanda's post here: "A joint statement from me and Neil." NOV 4, 2022 AT 7:05 PM Link in next comment unless Patreon deletes it.

Len Tower Jr.

Eons ago, Villages evolved from Tribes which were also usually Extended Families. -Len

Heather Coffey

Comedians are generally hard to date because they have developed the ability to make others laugh as a defense mechanism against uncomfortable feelings and situations. The problems come when comedy gets used to minimize and/or avoid dealing with the trauma.

Heather Coffey

(This is not in any way meant to dis comedians, and obviously does not apply to ALL of them. Heaven knows I've known some really good folks that do comedy.)

Parker

Ditto from me. Having issues with my hearing (amongst many other things.) so I truly appreciate your time and efforts Alex. Thank you 🌟 …that’s to everyone reading this to be honest. Deep Thanks for the positive vibes that this collection of disparate souls pours out into the universal consciousness. Goodness knows it’s desperately needed right now.

Parker

Thank you Dorothy. They both sound like things I need to add to my reading list.

Parker

“Trauma makes vampires out of us.” …yes indeed. That hunger for connection, to be needed, to feel full and part of something. Anything. No matter the cost…

Parker

Awww Maggie. Try not to judge. The world doesn’t need that stuff adding to the mix. A child needs a village to raise them. At the very least they need two parents. So easy to make negative assumptions and draw conclusions about other people’s behaviour/lives even when we think we ‘know’ their intentions. Let alone when we’re not personally involved. It’s a dangerous path to set your feet on. Watching the behaviour of the world at the moment to Harry and Megan (including their behaviour too) is both distressing and fascinating as it’s such a window into the collective psyche right now. Judgement is particularly addictive right now because it gives us a shared emotional connection. It’s tough but we really need to try to observe ourselves and attempt to steer away from the allure. Find other more healthy ways to achieve connection. …and no. Sadly I’ve no idea how we manage to do that 🥺

Parker

My therapist is fond of the metaphor she calls the Meat Computer. Perhaps because we’re both probably ADHD we need a good visual metaphor to focus on the help us understand things. I’ve been pondering a lot about the programming laid down in our operating systems when we’re children. And the long term consequences of trauma on that programming. You can’t just delete code or overwrite it. You need to figure out where and what the unhealthy code is and learn what to rewrite those sections with. The ramifications of trauma on brain chemistry and the long term health consequences - mental and physical…and I guess spiritual too - are wide, and possibly so deeply embedded that I wonder if we can ever find our way out. My thoughts lately have me inching towards the conclusion that there’s a desperate need to make mental health care and education the top priority. It needs to start from gestation onwards…help humans to understand the importance of nurture. To comprehend and glimpse the impact that being a parent will have on their lives (both parents…and anyone in their family who’s going to be involved in the care of the new life being grown) We need emotional literacy and coping mechanisms a part of the curriculum from the start. And enough counselling support in every school for everyone who needs it. Including the staff. I could go on, but I’m sure y’all get the idea. Sorry for grammatical errors etc the Patreon app won’t let me edit my text for some reason. I have a couple of neurological illnesses that screw with my communication so no matter how many times I reread stuff I always miss things.

Parker

The comedians and trauma thing is something Jimmy Carr refers to in his autobiography. Whenever he meets a comedian for the first time he asks them: “So which one of your parents was ill?” (I’m paraphrasing because my memory sucks) He’s found that most comedians were the carer to some extent of a parent. Or had a parent who was chronically ill. There’s almost always trauma of some kind in their childhood.

Micah Johnson

I have a real talent for giving readings and connecting people to their spiritual nature. But I have never cultivated my image, or tried to be something other than the damaged but kind person I am. And well, spirituality is a business now, it's not about helping people anymore It's about being a personality, and love and light all the time and not just during the times when we can afford it, and appearing normal and neurotypical etc. So yeah I felt that

Dahlia

And then just like that a 6 year old in Virginia shot their teacher a few days ago. Intense.

Jozias

Your work amazes me as much as Frida does and as much as Neil does. I'll keep following, supporting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, connecting, connecting dots and showing perspective. 🙏